Comments on The Joy of Sox: Report: Sox Claim Brian Giles

Bud Selig was going to launch an investigation, to...

2008-08-08T18:45:00.000-04:00

Bud Selig was going to launch an investigation, to get into Manny's head....Been there ,done that.....

LA Times:The baseball commissioner's office has no...

2008-08-08T17:15:00.000-04:00

LA Times:
The baseball commissioner's office has not launched a formal investigation into the circumstances surrounding the Manny Ramirez trade and does not plan to take action against any party in the deal, his spokesman said today. The Boston Globe reported in today's editions that Commissioner Bud Selig had ordered an investigation into "the circumstances of Manny's final hours with the Red Sox." Pat Courtney, the spokesman for Selig, said the commissioner had asked for clarification on several issues involving the trade and did not order a formal inquiry into the matter. "There were some follow-up calls," Courtney said. "It's closed. It's not ongoing."

my emphasis -

Great scoop, Globe!

Cafardo? The guy who picked the Jays to win the Ea...

2008-08-08T15:10:00.000-04:00

Cafardo? The guy who picked the Jays to win the East? ... Easily the worst baseball writer at the Globe.

CHB can write when the mood hits him, Cafardo cannot. He's a joke. I fear Edes's departure will give Carfardo more Sox time.

That guy you love from the Globe is live on ESPN n...

2008-08-08T15:06:00.000-04:00

That guy you love from the Globe is live on ESPN now. Trashing Manny. Calling it a sit-down strike and intentionally not swinging. When confronted with manny's 350 avg in the last month he brought up the missed games and slowly running to first. He also brought up the Rivera strike out. Dan is also in LA right now just so he can really dig into the Manny story. Wonderful stories to come.

Good points.

2008-08-08T15:02:00.000-04:00

Good points.

We need to find the time where they criticize whit...

2008-08-08T14:55:00.000-04:00

We need to find the time where they criticize white players.

I'll be on the lookout for bad comments about Varitek.

I think some of it may be the extra sensitive nature of the subject makes it stick in the collective conscience more.

Any comment is going to be quite subtle, generally. More along the lines of the general comments about white guys being scrappy and gritty and getting the most out of their ability and darker-skinned guys being natural athletes.

A long time ago I read something on this with various announcers' comments about Larry Bird and Magic Johnson. It was amazing.

Is there a cultural difference that appears to be laziness?

Most players will conserve their energy for when they need it most. Hence, Manny not sprinting to get a ball (with no one on base) that is going to a double anyway no matter what. There is no need to do so. Someone might think he was being lazy. It's just common sense and smart baseball to me.

I gotta get back to work -- sorry!!!

We need to find the time where they criticize whit...

2008-08-08T14:47:00.000-04:00

We need to find the time where they criticize white players. I think some of it may be the extra sensitive nature of the subject makes it stick in the collective conscience more.

On a different note, could there be anything to it? Culturally I mean. Is there a cultural difference that appears to be laziness?

This guy on 1st and 10 is really an ass. Now the U...

2008-08-08T14:44:00.001-04:00

This guy on 1st and 10 is really an ass. Now the USA bball team doesn't want to be playing for America. They want to be on vacation. Sports media is full of idiots. I know I am preaching to the choir but this is real bad. They want to be important. The favre coverage was ridiculous.

Does it really have to go there?It's definitely at...

2008-08-08T14:44:00.000-04:00

Does it really have to go there?

It's definitely at play to some (fairly subtle) extent in Manny's case, so yeah, it does.

He may be right. I don't keep track of these things, but I cannot think of any white players who have been denounced in the national media for dogging it to first base (or in the field).

Yeah they are saying the Boras stuff right now on ...

2008-08-08T14:37:00.000-04:00

Yeah they are saying the Boras stuff right now on 1st and 10 on ESPN. They are also referencing a source at the Globe.

Then the black guy on the show said this only comes up with Black and Latin players. Does it really have to go there?

Re Manny: Totally unproveable.I got the impression...

2008-08-08T14:35:00.000-04:00

Re Manny: Totally unproveable.

I got the impression from SoSH comments that they looking more into Boras's actions.

No deal. MLB looking into Manny withholding servic...

2008-08-08T14:31:00.000-04:00

No deal.

MLB looking into Manny withholding services to force a trade? It's on ESPN.

I want updates!

2008-08-08T14:25:00.000-04:00

I want updates!

It appears the Sox may have claimed Giles as an at...

2008-08-08T09:30:00.000-04:00

It appears the Sox may have claimed Giles as an attempt to block the Rays from getting him. The Rays have been on the lookout for an outfield bat since failing to aquire Jason Bay at the trade deadline.

That said, it could also be an indication that the Sox are worried about Mike Lowell's injury being more serious than expected. In addition, since JD Drew can be DL-happy, it could be further bolster outfield options as it appears they are not satisfied with Coco as our 4th option.

Either way, go sox!

http://insidethesox.blogspot.com/

Manny's tearing it up in the NL:He's 13-23, battin...

2008-08-08T08:31:00.000-04:00

Manny's tearing it up in the NL:

He's 13-23, batting .565, slugging 1.130, has a .619 OBP, and has an OPS+ of 341.

Check it out.

Why lump a whole a region int one newspapers thoug...

2008-08-08T08:03:00.000-04:00

Why lump a whole a region int one newspapers thoughts?

9Casey doing the job I do for NYC. Nice.

James said... I've always been a very big fan of B...

2008-08-07T23:08:00.000-04:00

James said...
I've always been a very big fan of Brian Giles. Tremendously underrated player. Lifetime OBP over .400, IIRC.

Underrated? the guy makes 10 mil a year and wont sniff 20 hr or 75rbi's. Since '04 his numbers have decreased rapidly.....

Patrick said... New England has a fucked up sense ...

2008-08-07T23:01:00.000-04:00

Patrick said...

New England has a fucked up sense of priorities.

Why lump a whole a region int one newspapers thoughts?

I've always been a very big fan of Brian Giles. T...

2008-08-07T22:17:00.000-04:00

I've always been a very big fan of Brian Giles. Tremendously underrated player. Lifetime OBP over .400, IIRC.

I have no idea where the hell he'd fit, but you can't complain about a .400 OBP. We do have some fragile parts, Drew is injury prone. It seems less necessary with Manny gone.

But if Ortiz has trouble coming back from his injury, then Giles is a pretty good fill in. However, it doesn't make me optomistic about our nine's chances.

Although who would have thunk that we might have a 3-4 combo of Giles and Bay by the end of the year?

It seems to be both -- so the Globe as wiggle room...

2008-08-07T21:23:00.000-04:00

It seems to be both -- so the Globe as wiggle room to editorialize

How about its a player profile? As for an editor worth his red pencil I leave that conjecture to other people. I personally have no problem with it being in this article except that I think its a cheap shot taken at someone who can't respond, which of course is one of the reasons why the "paper media" is slowly (actually sometimes rapidly) killing itself off.

Of course if you guys would quit pointing to the globe for articles I would continue to ignore it like the rash it has become in the last few years (well, except for Ryan).

So I went to baseball-reference to look at Giles s...

2008-08-07T21:14:00.000-04:00

So I went to baseball-reference to look at Giles splits.

Home - 51 Games - 228 PA - .275/.377/.399/.776
Away - 51 games - 227 PA - .316/.405/.449/.854.

Outside of Petco, he's had a really good year and would make a good 4th OF.

So, maybe, just maybe, Theo has a trade lined up for ocoC and a Zink or other ptbnl for the Pen.

fucking jeter.

2008-08-07T20:18:00.000-04:00

fucking jeter.

Also, FUCK YOU GLOBE yet again. This is from an ar...

2008-08-07T17:17:00.000-04:00

Also, FUCK YOU GLOBE yet again. This is from an article about Pedroia and his pregame routine:

I was assuming this was from a columnist and if it was, as opposed to a news article, then while highly umnprofessional, it's "allowed".

But with this piece, is Nick Cafardo a columnist or a reporter? It reads like an article, yet it is placed under the Globe's "On Baseball" heading, which Cafardo often writes.

That is not an obvious column like CHB has, so I'm unclear. It seems to be both -- so the Globe as wiggle room to editorialize.

I will say this: No professional editor worth his red pencil would let something like that remain in an article.

Our bullpen has a 3.64 ERA and is fifth in the AL....

2008-08-07T16:52:00.000-04:00

Our bullpen has a 3.64 ERA and is fifth in the AL. It ain't last year's incredible 3.10 for the year, but it's not that bad despite some frustrating rough patches.

coco's been anemic (michael kay's favorite word) a...

2008-08-07T16:43:00.000-04:00

coco's been anemic (michael kay's favorite word) at the plate for the better part of his 2+ years with the sox. i understand his glove is great, but now that bay (according to everyone and their mother he's supposed to be a great fielder, right?) and ellsbury being almost as good as coco in center (another year or so he'll be just as good if not better) i think its time to end the Coco era in boston.