tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post8040584933640257062..comments2024-03-28T07:19:18.670-07:00Comments on the joy of sox: In Explaining Rib Injuries, Ellsbury Contradicts Red Sox Medical Teamallanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04673233312198832937noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-75573140447986106382010-07-12T09:43:45.390-07:002010-07-12T09:43:45.390-07:00Is it not equally possible, if we're trading i...Is it not equally possible, if we're trading in conspiracy theories, that the team is using its media mouthpieces to trash Ellsbury the better to cover up for medical staff mistakes, a la Theo during his contract dispute? I'm not saying that's what happened. But why is that not an equally likely possibility based on the evidence being presented?Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06255333060200977485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-75306919864985096132010-07-12T09:40:33.548-07:002010-07-12T09:40:33.548-07:00I agree this whole thing with Ellsbury has been sh...I agree this whole thing with Ellsbury has been shameful. I don't understand why his injury is so much more suspect than others. A broken bone is a broken bone, and with the amount of twisting motions baseball players -- especially center fielders tracking down fly balls -- are expected to make to do their jobs, I find it incomprehensible why anyone doubts that this injury is truly serious. <br /><br />This isn't like Nomar or Manny -- nobody saw the Achilles incident that prefaced Nomar's departure, or what happened to cause Manny's various knee / hamstring problems. Everyone saw Ellsbury's collision with Beltre. Everybody saw him land on his rib cage in that later game. Multiple physicians have diagnosed him with fractured ribs, an injury that can keep NFL players sidelined. What am I missing here?Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06255333060200977485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-48470848547405282902010-07-11T17:53:06.563-07:002010-07-11T17:53:06.563-07:00Sorry for that duplicate comment (which I deleted)...Sorry for that duplicate comment (which I deleted). I thought I had posted my earlier comment in the gamethread, rather than here.<br /><br />So tell me, anyone, why Ellsbury should take the high road but not Youkilis?laura khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05524593142290489958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-40265764778484909192010-07-11T17:51:33.281-07:002010-07-11T17:51:33.281-07:00And this will now dog Ellsbury for however long hi...<i>And this will now dog Ellsbury for however long his Red Sox career lasts (and perhaps his entire career).</i><br /><br />That is the saddest part. When he's with another team, announcers will give him back-handed praise like, "He's dogged by stories that he's soft but we haven't seen any evidence of that, he seems like a very hard-working young man so far."laura khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05524593142290489958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-15394203385380845702010-07-11T17:03:04.783-07:002010-07-11T17:03:04.783-07:00Tom DePlonty said...
One of the things that really...Tom DePlonty said...<br />One of the things that really pissed me off about the Massarotti "soft" piece was that it contains no reaction from Ellsbury, or any indication Massarotti tried to get one. It was nothing but a hit piece.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Massarotti is trying to get on ESPN, and he knows you have to be loud mouth with a bad attitude to get there.9caseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14214364466933716867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-25003575307425371442010-07-11T16:35:41.578-07:002010-07-11T16:35:41.578-07:00One of the things that really pissed me off about ...One of the things that really pissed me off about the Massarotti "soft" piece was that it contains no reaction from Ellsbury, or any indication Massarotti tried to get one. It was nothing but a hit piece.<br /><br />I think Ellsbury has been pretty restrained in defending himself, actually. And where he has to stand by anything he says, the team can trot out "anonymous sources" to take shots at him in the press at will. It's disgusting.Tom DePlontyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04131969835612594121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-44034646151973329282010-07-11T13:58:40.797-07:002010-07-11T13:58:40.797-07:00Ray: Yook could be personally frustrated at Ellsbu...Ray: Yook could be personally frustrated at Ellsbury or frustrated at the team's injuries. Or maybe the whole team is annoyed at him. I have no idea. He can say what he wants, sure. And he did cut off someone who was trying to get him to go further ("don't go down that road").<br /><br />Maybe Yook needs to be slapped again, like Manny did when his O'Neillian tantrums were getting out of hand.<br /><br /><i>Why bring out the notes?</i><br /><br />I'd say because his media appearance was a big deal and he wanted to make sure he got all his info straight. I saw no video so I have no idea how much he used them, but I imagine it would be like someone using note cards when addressing a big crowd.<br /><br /><i>While he was in Arizone, his name was hardly mentioned in the media?</i><br /><br />I disagree with that. Wondering about his return has been a big topic. Mazz stirred up a bunch of shit with his "soft" column and god only knows what the radio guys are doing.<br /><br /><i>Why did he ( I can't blame a grown man's actions on his agent) choose to speak so much about the fuck up with the medical staff.</i><br /><br />Because it's part of what happened and has a lot to do with why he has been out for so long. Whether he spoke "so much" about it or not, I do not know. I have not seen a transcript of the entire conference.allanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673233312198832937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-23725012368861784392010-07-11T13:43:39.104-07:002010-07-11T13:43:39.104-07:00but what do you guys make of what Youk said? He fe...but what do you guys make of what Youk said? He felt strongly and I think he's earned his right to speak up on things like this.accudarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02382053706682702257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-1407039015496999332010-07-11T13:32:26.148-07:002010-07-11T13:32:26.148-07:00Why did Ellsbury have to comment? Why bring out th...Why did Ellsbury have to comment? Why bring out the notes?<br /><br />Why not just take the high road?<br /><br />While he was in Arizone, his name was hardly mentioned in the media? <br /><br />Why did he ( I can't blame a grown man's actions on his agent) choose to speak so much about the fuck up with the medical staff.9caseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14214364466933716867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-54592155889502447692010-07-11T10:05:33.956-07:002010-07-11T10:05:33.956-07:00And this will now dog Ellsbury for however long hi...And this will now dog Ellsbury for however long his Red Sox career lasts (and perhaps his entire career). Certainly, Boston writers will *always* refer to it.allanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673233312198832937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-23880586305647192542010-07-11T10:04:29.379-07:002010-07-11T10:04:29.379-07:00Could someone please fracture five of Buckley'...Could someone please fracture five of Buckley's ribs and then ask him to work out at the gym for three or four hours every day? Thx.allanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673233312198832937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-75212095355222459492010-07-11T10:02:53.159-07:002010-07-11T10:02:53.159-07:00I heard that Mockery was coming up with Buckley --...I heard that Mockery was coming up with Buckley -- and Buckley is an automatic MUTE. <br /><br />A poor man's CHB, he and Gerry Callahan both.allanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673233312198832937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-67735863666801835892010-07-11T10:00:23.821-07:002010-07-11T10:00:23.821-07:00Thanks (or not) to WEEI pregame, I just heard Stev...Thanks (or not) to WEEI pregame, I just heard Steve Buckley trashing LBJ. I don't listen to sports radio or read mainstream sports media so I forget how vile this stuff is.<br /><br />It was so totally disgusting. Supposedly Mike Cameron is showing up Ellsbury by saying "look at me, I have a sports hernia, I need surgery at the end of the season, but I'm still playing". <br /><br />So all injuries are equal, and no matter what, players can play injured? So why don't Pedroia, Varitek and Martinez all do that?<br /><br />Jacoby is "a little bit soft", he's "obviously" under the influence of his agent (Buckley finds it all very obvious), trash trash trash... then at the end, "he's a young kid and has a lot to learn". <br /><br />This is so nauseating. I despise these people who make a living trashing people infinitely more talented - and more useful - than they are.laura khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05524593142290489958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-80464767375707744342010-07-11T09:34:40.300-07:002010-07-11T09:34:40.300-07:00I love the irony of an anonymous source on the Red...I love the irony of an anonymous source on the Red Sox telling a newspaper that the team has no intention of getting into a public spat with Ellsbury, who, by the way, isn't liked very much by his teammates.mattymattyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08291132296368578632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-31274663147840841502010-07-11T07:57:09.221-07:002010-07-11T07:57:09.221-07:00A journalist criticizing a player for keeping note...A journalist criticizing a player for keeping notes! Shameful. <br /><br />I'm sure we're all thinking what Amy said. I hope it doesn't happen, but I won't be surprised if/when it does. <br /><br />Awful.laura khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05524593142290489958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-64380846347118499362010-07-11T07:06:16.414-07:002010-07-11T07:06:16.414-07:00"Ellsbury said that after the collision with ..."Ellsbury said that after the collision with Beltre in Kansas City, he specifically asked for MRI exams on both the front and back of his rib cage. He believed he was getting those exams, but only the front was MRIed,..."<br /><br />Now in my 70s, I have learned that you have to be very specific when dealing with doctors. Coming back months or years later saying, "I'm sure I told you about those pains, doc!" does you little good.Bartmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06809097953780642925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-10851394481659197722010-07-11T05:37:53.506-07:002010-07-11T05:37:53.506-07:00I have this sick, sinking feeling that LBJ will no...I have this sick, sinking feeling that LBJ will not be with the team much longer. He seems to have been tarred and feathered as a disloyal and whiny player who will follow the path of Nomar and Manny off the team. I predict a trade for a pitcher to boost the bullpen in some way.Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15720293202890878993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-44495339915808388082010-07-11T00:14:03.533-07:002010-07-11T00:14:03.533-07:00As someone that read Abraham often when he was wit...As someone that read Abraham often when he was with the Yankees he has no problem attacking players and interjecting his opinion without any basis to back it up.<br /><br />Wouldn't be so bad but except he has favorites and whipping boys.thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12522980957259707292noreply@blogger.com