tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post8872960191467082185..comments2024-03-29T04:32:39.897-07:00Comments on the joy of sox: Red Sox, Padres Agree On Gonzalez Tradeallanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04673233312198832937noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-6816552578562683382010-12-05T12:07:43.449-08:002010-12-05T12:07:43.449-08:00Now Rosenthal is saying it's far from over. T...Now Rosenthal is saying it's far from over. The window closed to negotiate an extension, but the two teams can still negotiate a trade.<br /><br />All of this sparked by a simple tweet by Jon Heyman that the deal has "fallen thru" with no details at all. How about get the fucking details and then break the news, eh?<br /><br />He ends up looking like a dumbass.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14809080115678512743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-18544394019198969162010-12-05T11:58:22.547-08:002010-12-05T11:58:22.547-08:00If this is true its pretty bad...If this is true its pretty bad...mattymattyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08291132296368578632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-27587605428015861422010-12-05T11:55:27.398-08:002010-12-05T11:55:27.398-08:00Heyman: "word last nite was that at a-gon sou...Heyman: "word last nite was that at a-gon sought 8 yr deal, #redsox preferred 6. but that was early in process and unconfirmed. "Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14809080115678512743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-83367197965432142672010-12-05T11:52:34.654-08:002010-12-05T11:52:34.654-08:00Ken Rosenthal: "Source: 'Window closed. ...Ken Rosenthal: "Source: 'Window closed. No deal.' Trying to find out more."Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14809080115678512743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-17837307325497842572010-12-05T11:48:46.703-08:002010-12-05T11:48:46.703-08:00Guess you were one step ahead of me!
I share the ...Guess you were one step ahead of me!<br /><br />I share the same sentiment... WHAT THE FUCK.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14809080115678512743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-30562728703507377452010-12-05T11:48:15.087-08:002010-12-05T11:48:15.087-08:00Tweets from Jon Heyman...
2:13 PM: #redsox could...Tweets from Jon Heyman...<br /><br />2:13 PM: #redsox could still make trade without firm extension, so long as paramters are close<br /><br />2:15 PM: The 2 pm deadline on a-gon window may be "soft" as baseball understands the significance of player and situation. Overtime may be ok.<br /><br />2:42 PM: Source; gonzalez deal fell thru<br /><br />2:42 PM: #redsox just could not reach deal w a-gon.<br /><br /><br />WOW.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14809080115678512743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-48187410696375306062010-12-05T11:47:23.385-08:002010-12-05T11:47:23.385-08:00WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK?WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK?allanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673233312198832937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-27149462189555683682010-12-05T11:46:50.764-08:002010-12-05T11:46:50.764-08:00HEYMAN SAYS
DEAL FELL THROUGH?!?!?!!?HEYMAN SAYS<br />DEAL FELL THROUGH?!?!?!!?allanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673233312198832937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-4641401035756927892010-12-05T11:46:29.725-08:002010-12-05T11:46:29.725-08:00Heyman's saying no deal.Heyman's saying no deal.matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14426156183488071453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-72200803873933847072010-12-05T11:45:53.206-08:002010-12-05T11:45:53.206-08:00Joel Sherman, New York Post (via Twitter), 1:32 pm...Joel Sherman, New York Post (via Twitter), 1:32 pm: "Boston might be okay with just laying out parameters with Gonzalez and finalizing a deal during Spring Training if the slugger is healthy"<br /><br />No. Not okay.allanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673233312198832937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-50474458000357429462010-12-05T11:14:44.899-08:002010-12-05T11:14:44.899-08:00Alex Speier: "Heard that as of a couple minut...Alex Speier: "Heard that as of a couple minutes before 2pm, the Sox and Gonzalez were still bunkered down, with nothing done yet."<br /><br />COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!allanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673233312198832937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-16152815241450101102010-12-05T10:26:32.507-08:002010-12-05T10:26:32.507-08:00Heyman; "45 mins before gonzalez deadline. st...Heyman; "45 mins before gonzalez deadline. still guessing trade happens despite alleged difference in yrs (8 vs. 6) last nite. But guessing.<br />12 minutes ago via web"allanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673233312198832937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-3180625496223847372010-12-05T09:50:14.365-08:002010-12-05T09:50:14.365-08:00Pos traveled to NYC on Wednesday. It took a bit lo...<a href="http://joeposnanski.blogspot.com/2010/12/travel-day.html" rel="nofollow">Pos traveled to NYC on Wednesday.</a> It took a bit longer than expected.allanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673233312198832937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-28433596112697121092010-12-05T09:35:31.193-08:002010-12-05T09:35:31.193-08:00I will not be going outside! Got tabs open for Hay...I will not be going outside! Got tabs open for Hayes's and Heyman's twitter pages -- and SoSH.allanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673233312198832937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-37304405033406250262010-12-05T09:31:35.301-08:002010-12-05T09:31:35.301-08:00This has an air of the Curt Schilling negotiations...This has an air of the Curt Schilling negotiations over Thanksgiving in '03. I'm as nervous now as I was then. Hope it works out...mattymattyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08291132296368578632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-64705817976229823382010-12-05T09:29:30.142-08:002010-12-05T09:29:30.142-08:00heyman says sox offered 6 years, do not want to go...heyman says sox offered 6 years, do not want to go as high/long as teix (8/180)allanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673233312198832937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-10914334601236097572010-12-05T09:20:28.584-08:002010-12-05T09:20:28.584-08:00Hayes, 11:03 AM: "Hearing 2 sides are somewha...Hayes, 11:03 AM: "Hearing 2 sides are somewhat at an impasse right now & everything is up in the air. Trade potentially might not happen."<br /><br />JimD, SoSH: "To save my sanity, I think I'm just going to shut off the computer and go outside until after 2:00."<br /><br />Probably a wise move.allanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673233312198832937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-11512665946589392162010-12-05T09:17:56.450-08:002010-12-05T09:17:56.450-08:00McAdam: "Source on Gonzalez contract talks: &...McAdam: "Source on Gonzalez contract talks: "They went through most of the night. There's a good feeling." Still, no deal in place yet."<br /><br />Dan Hayes says this deal is contingent on the Red Sox getting a contract extension. If there is no extension in the next 103 minutes, the deal will fall through (says his source).allanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673233312198832937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-33381497542076892092010-12-05T06:35:26.989-08:002010-12-05T06:35:26.989-08:00Joe McDonald: "No matter who you talk to abou...<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/mlb/columns/story?columnist=mcdonald_joe&id=5884629" rel="nofollow">Joe McDonald</a>: "No matter who you talk to about Adrian Gonzalez, the common theme among players, teammates, coaches and scouts in the majors is that the soon-to-be newest member of the Boston Red Sox is going to rake in the American League."allanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673233312198832937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-51222767457292244062010-12-05T05:55:49.325-08:002010-12-05T05:55:49.325-08:00Pretty stoked about this. Saw it cross on the bott...Pretty stoked about this. Saw it cross on the bottom line last night and let an audible yelp!<br />The only downside is that I REALLY like Beltre and this of course means he is gone. But alas, such is the game.<br />Now if there were only a catcher out there........SoSockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15982944966573089279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-8046294557500315092010-12-04T22:10:29.822-08:002010-12-04T22:10:29.822-08:00Here is another overlay of 2010 Petco on Fenway. A...<a href="http://sonsofsamhorn.net/topic/61973-report-gonzalez-to-sox-very-close/page__view__findpost__p__3277502" rel="nofollow">Here</a> is another overlay of 2010 Petco on Fenway. AG will clearly be helped by the Wall, as long as he hits the ball high enough!allanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673233312198832937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-52948481606251748982010-12-04T20:52:32.389-08:002010-12-04T20:52:32.389-08:00Buzzkill links to a Yardbarker story from early 20...Buzzkill links to a <a href="http://www.yardbarker.com/mlb/articles/contract_timing/2370369" rel="nofollow">Yardbarker</a> story from early 2010 about Beckett:<br /><br />"The Red Sox timed Josh Beckett's contract extension to save money: By announcing the deal after the season started, Beckett's new salary isn't included in luxury tax calculations until next year. If the Red Sox announced it before the opener, it would have raised his average annual pay and been included in the calculations for this year, potentially increasing the team's luxury tax. The Red Sox are always on top of things. ..."<br /><br />***allanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673233312198832937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-14465333208483299732010-12-04T20:49:26.553-08:002010-12-04T20:49:26.553-08:00Heyman tweets:
"red sox may be willing to do...Heyman tweets:<br /><br />"red sox may be willing to do a-gone deal without extension and may actually prefer to just talk parameters now, then watch him in spring"<br /><br />"some teams wanted to make sure a-gone's shoulder responds this spring before committing $160-plus mil. red sox may be 1 of those teams"<br /><br />"so the trade may go thru without extension. dont forget, a-gon's shoulder is still in a sling, even if it checked fine."<br /><br />***<br /><br />Padres beat writer Dan Hayes seems to agree with Heyman:<br /><br />"Was told earlier today that Gonzalez trade could "possibly" happen w/o extension. Seems to fit with what @SI_JonHeyman is reporting."<br /><br />***<br /><br />This seems like complete bullshit. Theo will give up 3 of his top 6 prospects but then wait until February to see if Gonzalez's shoulder is okay and maybe just go with a one-year rental?<br /><br />***<br /><br />SoSHer Buzzkill Pauley says doing this would be a luxury tax move:<br /><br />"By not signing him to an extension until the season starts, the Sox can clear Ortiz' and Drew's $26.5MM off the AAV books before factoring the 6-7 years for AG at FMV. Meanwhile, the Sox assume a mere $6.3MM for AG's 2011.<br /><br />There's no way he doesn't sign an extension. The Sox are simply using his shoulder surgery as an excuse to play the game to improve other aspects of the team as well. In Philly Sox Fan's thread, he estimates $30MM of space available -- meaning if AG signs now, they can't get Werth or Crawford and stay under the tax threshold. <br /><br />By waiting until April 5 or whenever they decide "he's good to go" they can do just that, and sign several quality relief pitchers, too.<br /><br />***allanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673233312198832937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-53833236232393035872010-12-04T20:04:49.886-08:002010-12-04T20:04:49.886-08:00This is exciting!This is exciting!laura khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05524593142290489958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-29351035569383409672010-12-04T18:26:52.736-08:002010-12-04T18:26:52.736-08:00Cafardo, 8 PM:
A source familiar with the negoti...<a href="http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2010/12/no_agreement_ye.html" rel="nofollow">Cafardo</a>, 8 PM: <br /><br />A source familiar with the negotiations between the Red Sox and Adrian Gonzalez said there was still no contract agreement at this hour but that both sides were "trying."<br /><br />The talks are ongoing this evening and will likely head into the night ...<br /><br />The physical, which also included two MRI's to take a look at past injuries besides the shoulder surgery Gonzalez had after the season, were also examined. The fact that the sides are negotiating a deal indicates that the physical has passed.<br /><br />***allanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673233312198832937noreply@blogger.com