Red Sox - 000 102 020 - 5 8 0Lester left the game in the third inning after being hit on the right knee (or the inside of the right knee) by Melky Cabrera. He was able to walk off the field on his own. X-rays were negative and Lester has a contusion on his right quad.
Yankees - 104 102 10x - 9 14 0
Lester (2.1-8-5-3-3, 78) had a rough outing from his very first pitch, which Derek Jeter grounded into center field.
Victor Martinez homered in the fourth to extend his hitting streak to 24 games. (Chamberlain had retired the first 11 Boston batters.) Ortiz hit a two-run bomb in the sixth.
Since May 31, Jon Lester has a 2.13 ERA, better than every major league pitcher except Felix Hernandez (1.99) over that time period.
5.5 GB with 10 games to play. Common sense says the Red Sox will not storm back and win the East (Baseball Prospectus puts the Sox's chances of doing so at 1.1%), but it remains possible.Since August 10, when they were swept by the Yankees in a four-game series in New York, the Red Sox are 29-13 -- the best record in baseball over that span. At 91-61, Boston has the 3rd best record in baseball, after the Yankees (97-56) and Dodgers (92-61).
With Boston's Wild Card magic number at 3, the Red Sox could be the first team to pop champagne at the new Yankee Stadium. David Ortiz: "So we don't have to get our clubhouse dirty."
&: Rays/Rangers at 8.
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ESPNBoston.com chat:
Ryan (Boston): Amy, any chance we see some fireworks tonight? NY has hit 10 Boston batters and we have yet to see any retaliation.
Amy K. Nelson: Great question ... Red Sox players were, um, very upset last series in NY ... one player told me he expected retaliation and it never came, in large part because of how the series went. Not sure, there's a lot still these teams need to accomplish, but I can tell you this: Red Sox are relishing chance to celebrate at Yankee Stadium and they will tear that place apart, if they do it on Sat, wonder if we'll see any repercussions in Sunday's game?
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Hmmmmm.
By the way, everyone should read that book. It's great.
But not until November, of course.
Do you recommend Collapse above Guns, Germs, and Steel or don't you have an opinion?
Do you recommend Collapse above Guns, Germs, and Steel or don't you have an opinion?
They are both great books.
Reading GG&S will ground you in certain concepts for Collapse.
Collapse is more accessible, written more as a catalyst for change. So it's very direct and open in its point of view, less academic, less loaded down with statistics.
GG&S can be a little dense. BUT it's a fascinating book, well worth the effort to read it.
I found it helpful, in some chapters, to only skim the examples and evidence. It was enough to know the fact that had been uncovered, without the 5 paragraphs of statistics to support it.
Hm, was this helpful? I loved them both. For people who are not so keen on dense nonfiction, go for Collapse, it will be challenging enough. If it's not an issue, start with GG&S and read collapse later.
Also, Collapse scared the living shit out of me. Big motivation to work for change, and to try to get others to do so, too.
I've quoted from it on wmtc, you mind find it under "what i'm reading".
Very helpful, thank you for taking the time.
I need to read Collapse more immediately, I think, for research for my fiction. GG&S might be a further thing to check out on down the line.
I truly appreciate your customized review since it's difficult to fit in serious reading because I'm quite busy with job #1, job #2, marriage, yoga, and baseball -- not to mention the requisite indulgences.
1. Jacoby Ellsbury, CF
2. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
3. Victor Martinez, 1B
4. Kevin Youkilis, 3B
5. David Ortiz, DH
6. Jason Bay, LF
7. J.D. Drew, RF
8. Jason Varitek, C
9. Alex Gonzalez, SS
1. Derek Jeter, SS
2. Johnny Damon, LF
3. Mark Teixeira, 1B
4. Alex Rodriguez, 3B
5. Hideki Matsui, DH
6. Jorge Posada, C
7. Robinson Cano, 2B
8. Nick Swisher, RF
9. Melky Cabrera, CF
I'd love to see a fucking drunken pap underwear jig on the mound right in the middle of the toilet.
But I don't think they'll go that far. Just trash the clubhouse =)
"All I'm sayin is, don't let us win tonight. 'Cause if we win tonight, they get Dice on Saturday, Byrd in the finale, and then anything can happen in the final week of the season."
Zen, you're very welcome! Glad to help and also spread the gospel according to Jared Diamond.
I relate to your juggling act. At the moment I am wondering if I'll ever read anything other than for school, ever again. :(
Now leaving aside the collapse of civilization, on to more important things like the collapse of NYY.
Dear God, there usually aren't this many commercials in the pre-show, are there? It feels almost like 10-minutes blocks this evening. Is this new?
I am so not Jewish.
I'm like why in the world is Sunday's game at 1:05, on ESPN? Where did Sunday NIGHT Baseball go?
And why is this game on TBS tonight? (FYI for those outside Boston and New York)...
Then someone told me for Yom Kippur. Had no idea.
Is it just me or were there more commercials during the Sox game last night? Commercials between outs?!?
I couldn't be sure because I was in a bar and the TV was way over that way and it was in HD. I thought maybe an HD thing? But probably not.
Wow, you guys have a lot of questions.
I've only seen ads between outs on Buffyvision when the Sox are playing the Jays. AND they squeeze in ads **during an at-bat** !!
But I have not seen either of those on NESN.
Then there are the times the ball-strike bar at the top of the screen turns into a car or burger joint ad.
Mmmm... burgers.
Work = NESN.
but mlbtv's nesn feed is a colour bar!! yay!!!!!!!!!!
Whew, NESN here. That's a relief, even with the MLB audio option.
i heard don, but now it has gone bye-bye. GOOD OL' MLB!
L saying getting Eck is a relief! :>)
Then there are the times the ball-strike bar at the top of the screen turns into a car or burger joint ad.
Don't get me started.
Eck?? Not Don & Remy?!
RADIO
I forgot Jerry's not doing away games. Oh well, at least it's NESN video w/ Red Sox radio.
I will not listen to another game with Eck if I can possibly help it.
ummm, mlbtv, pls give me back my nesn ...
So let's see when Annoying Landlord can show up, how he can time his visit for maximum annoyance...
So glad this is a weekend series, no need to attempt to study and follow the game at the same time.
Evening, all. Harv and I are here, watching a game together in the same place. Should be fun. I am preparing myself to be happy about the wild card, and he is preparing to act graciously if the Yankee win the East. That way we will not be at each other's throats...until the ALCS.
So glad this is a weekend series, no need to attempt to study and follow the game at the same time.
Just the opposite for me & A.
The thought of a Yanks ALCS turns my stomach. I don't know if I want to go through that again. How you deal with it with the tension in your own home, Amy, it boggles the mind!
I'll never know how they made it through 2003 and 2004. I was a recent convert then, so A & I didn't go through that together.
I don't want to see a Boston-NY ALCS either.
I find it odd that they list Sea Bass's batting average with the Red Sox, but V-Mart's batting average for the entire season.
90-93 from Joba.
I am preparing myself to be happy about the wild card
You won't really be happy about the wild card?
I felt that way - very strongly - in 2007, but since we won the division that year, now I'm ok with making the post-season however it happens.
When a player switches leagues the statistics are reset. Not when they switch teams in the same league.
I find it odd that they list Sea Bass's batting average with the Red Sox, but V-Mart's batting average for the entire season.
It's an AL/NL thing. If you stay in the same league, they use the same stats. If not, they start over with a separate line.
I find it odd that they list Sea Bass's batting average with the Red Sox, but V-Mart's batting average for the entire season.
Was Gonzalez in the NL? I don't remember, but that would explain it.
if jtc gets victor, will be take a few victory laps around the mound, pumping his fist?
ivy
OK, I see we all explained the same thing at the same time. Or I would have, but Blogger was being slow.
Joba: "YES!!! MOTHERFUCKER RAAAAWWWWRRRRRRRRRRR I got through the first inning!!!" *pump fist and gyrations*
Ivy? Is that a nickname I missed while not threading?
Ah, league switch, right.
That inning was too quick.
when bay came from pitt last year, they kept adding to his NL HR totals. i thought with interleague et al., they add 'em up.
Old Hickory today wrote that both the Yanks and Sox will not be going after each other, but will be concentrating on getting set for the postseason.
We'll see.
They should add the stats together now, given interleague.
Intangible hit.
shit - we're fucked.
Hi all...
"I've only seen ads between outs on Buffyvision"
I so hate this! NESN and Sox radio manages to cram tons of sponsorship type ads into the game but at least they don't interrupt the actual telecast for them.
Go Sox! 2.5 out by sunday would make this month more interesting for sure!
Fuckin' Cactus
Magic Cactus is alive and well.
They might not be going for each other, but the fans will be.
Oh great, an intangible steal too. Tekballa.
gammo also said jtc is fighting for a spot on the playoff roster with chad gaudin! GAUDIN!!!
shit, mfy might have 10 SB tonight.
yes - bunt pls.
Gaudin might be actually better than JtC, seriously. JtC=most over-rated pitcher ever
most over-rated pitcher ever
Irabu?
Sit
Sit down!
Boring in on the Doosh! K
"Irabu"
OK Maybe 2nd-most over-rated
Fucker
i hear they brought the THUD sound effect over from the old terlit.
I purposely didn't go to Facebook today to avoid my sister's fake Yankees fan posts. As of a month ago she decided she's always been a big Yankees fan.
She didn't appreciate my reminding her that last year she cheered for Tampa, the year before that, Red Sox.
Crap.
There used to be some good statistic about our wins when the other team scores first. Anybody remember that? Just this season, not historically.
don: "there are no easy outs in either of these lineups"
if you say so, don....
I'm fairly certain we were the only team that had a winning record when the opponent scored first.
Oh look, another SB
this year:
sox score 1st: 60-29
opp scores 1st: 31-32
again - NO THROW.
useless
OK, I am already not feeling the truce. Already feeling pissed off!
sox score 1st: 60-29
opp scores 1st: 31-32
I guess for a while it looked impressive, but it evened out.
Never mind!
THIRD OUT PLS
Castig just said the same thing re "no soft touches in the lineup".
damn - eck trying to out-do michael kay is praising the mfy.
I will be happy with the wild card (to answer Laura's question a few minutes ago). But I still hate losing ANYTHING to the Yankees.
another sb
*sigh*
Fuckin' Cactus...
Amy, I'm glad. And of course. :)
The strike zone looks very weird on GDGD - that last looked inside.
But I'll take it.
wait - did slappy really steal 3rd?
wait - did slappy really steal 3rd?
Yep
Hi All,
Read through the thread and was interested in the Jared Diamond book; curious to know which society/civilization he said chose to succeed and why?
Let's see if JtC can manage not to throw at Yook's head.
SCORE RUNS SOON (so we can pretend that the Yankees did not really score first).
fusionmouse, you're asking for the entire book! he goes through several civilizations that collapsed and walks through the theories of how and why, then relates the whole thing to our own.
WTF man, lets smoke this fucking dickhead.
whats with all the outs he's getting.
fuckin cunt!
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dinner time, ttyl!
Strike zone seems conspicuously amorphous tonight.
Wow, can't believe he caught that.
For the life of me, I can't figure out why they didn't play a day game yesterday...
8pm start followed by a flight to NY!
The Sox must've gotten to bed about 4am last night.
Steinbrenner probably drew up the schedule for this last road trip!
classic tim :)
swishalicious
They're big boys, they can miss a few hours of sleep and still win games.
Tim seems to be channeling Nix.
Ugh
They're letting him get through the lineup way too quickly
Now we need a 6 or 7 pitch inning.
Sorry L. I just couldn't think of any civilization that hadn't failed at some point; so I'm not sure that there is any path to perpetual success-- that's all.
Tim seems to be channeling Nix.
Ha ha, I thought that too. But the "gotta go ttyl" is pure Tim.
FM, he is not using failed in the same sense as you. You should read the book before you decide his premise is wrong. It's excellent.
Crap. See-eye singles...
Most civilizations have *not* failed in the sense that Diamond is talking about. The Roman Empire ended, and nations and politics were re-drawn, but all the people did not starve to death and completely disappear.
Sit
man, is eck a closet mfy fan? stfu.
EFD posted on Facebook that he is at the game, first row upper deck on the first base side of home plate. Says he is not having much fun so far.
I saw a documentary based on "Guns,germs...' It was very interesting stuff.
4th SB
So glad I'm not listening to him.
ANOTHER SB
YAY - tek made a throw.
baby steps ...........
Irid, I heard that was very good. It's an excellent book, one of my faves.
ugh im on the verge of watching this game on mlb.tv rather than TBS which it's on near me. they havent stopped fellating jeter since the first pitch of the game
eck: "what's going on? is lester not paying attention?"
YES, ECK, IT'S LESTER'S FAULT.
UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
then don says the worst night was with penny/varitek.
HMMMMMMMMM, WHAT IS THE COMMON LINK?
eck's been blowing the entire team.
Eck has been taking lessons from Dave Roberts unfortunately. "Must say nice things about all Sox opponents"
YES, ECK, IT'S LESTER'S FAULT.
Captain Teflon strikes again
yeah at least he didnt toss the ball behind the umpire that time. hopefully he'll have the class to turn down the option and go elsewhere next year since the team certainly wont excercise their end
Some serious Jeter love going on here.
eck is ok sometimes but i prefer when they have the mayor in the booth
eck: "they must have just picked the right time to go. ... and yes, don, i am ignoring the 846,014 pound gorilla in the room."
fucking A. bases loaded.
that may have been the great bases on balls in history. so classy.
SEA BASSSS
Fast thinking by Gonzalez!
Sea Bass!
I had to mute Sean Casey last night. He just can NOT stop talking.
NICE PLAY!!
somehow alex gonzales just beat jesus christ, who was walking on water to the bag
Sox fans, please note NYY LOB !!
i dunno there's something about casey that i find endearing.
GG&S was very interesting. And I'm not disagreeing with what Jared is saying... though I sometimes feel he is expounding on ideas that to many rational people would seem obvious. He does weave a coherent tale.
But the idea that civilizations often chose paths or directions against their own best interests is patently apparent.
Afghanistan (Taleban) hosts Al Queda... can't say that worked out well for them. Republicans from the middle of the USA keep voting for big business supporting politicians that send all their jobs off shore and give the largest tax breaks to the wealthy and debilitate the public support structures that most benefit the lower and middle class (schools for example.)
People and civilizations chose against their own best interests all the time.
sniff, sniff ... i smell some smoke ... and where there is smoke, there is on fire.
He's endearing, I agree. He's sweet and funny. He just does not know when to shut up!
i dunno there's something about casey that i find endearing.
last night, it sounded like he was still taking his pre-game greenies.
Sorry, I really shouldn't thread after a few beers... I get the feeling I'm ranting. ;-)
Runs...please!
hmmm, that smell must have been a fart instead.
TEK - not a tough out in either of these lineups.
you DO want martinez catching every day - in the playoffs.
Silver lining: Joba has a good start today, so they put him in the postseason lineup...and he gets creamed!
Lovin' the "2nd Seabass Era"!
I have to say that the announcers are crazy,saying Tek is hitting poorly because he isn't playing as much. Ummm, he was not hitting ALL SEASON.
People and civilizations chose against their own best interests all the time.
Absolutely, although your examples are of a completely different nature than the subjects of Collapse.
Most people I know don't know how Easter Island came to be depopulated, why European settlement starved to death in Greenland, and several other historical examples. I found very little in the book that was obvious.
actually, heidi, he is most important to the lineup when he is not in it.
they're also blaming a phantom neck injury, and the fact that he obviously worships satan since he doesnt play for the yankees (tbs broadcast)
Damn, Sox , quit hacking at the 1st or 2nd pitch every at bat
"Ummm, he was not hitting ALL SEASON."
Or all of last season
Sorry, I really shouldn't thread after a few beers... I get the feeling I'm ranting.
You're not ranting, but you're making pronouncements about a book you haven't read. Never a wise move.
Ummm, he was not hitting ALL SEASON."
Or all of last season
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Or the year before.
I think the Magic Cactus needs to be planted in the bull pen!
"Ummm, he was not hitting ALL SEASON."
Or all of last season
Kevin beat me to that. Tek hasn't been a decent hitter in many a year.
Amy: Skip this comment.
SoSH, yesterday:
There are roughly 350 hitters in MLB who have had over 100 plate appearances since the All-Star Break. Of these roughly 350, Jason Varitek has the worst batting average... in baseball. Here's the bottom 5:
5) .181 - Gross, TBR (105 ABs)
4) .180 - Dye, CHW (200 ABs)
3) .180 - A. Jones, TEX (89 ABs)
2) .165 - Hanigan, CIN (97 ABs)
1) .156 - Varitek, BOS (122 ABs)
Of this same sample of roughly 350 hitters, Jason Varitek has 2nd worst OPS in baseball. Here's the bottom 5:
5) .519 - Coste, PHI/HOU (96 ABs)
4) .502 - Alb. Gonzalez, WAS (152 ABs)
3) .494 - Hanigan, CIN (97 ABs)
2) .490 - Varitek, BOS (122 ABs)
1) .482 - Taveras, CIN (109 ABs)
Source: ESPN
Jason Varitek has been the worst hitter in baseball since July. Indeed, claims of Jason Varitek's demise have been greatly under-exaggerated. As the Sox must have noticed, he has hit rock bottom.
TEK OPS IN 2009
.881 - April
.824 - May
.750 - June
.736 - July
.483 - Aug
.346 - Sept
Damn, Eck is sounding like a dick tonight with the Tek worship.
We could have the pitcher bat and use the DH for Varitek (that is allowed, btw) and we'd likely have a stronger lineup.
eck dick tek
ick
You're not ranting, but you're making pronouncements about a book you haven't read. Never a wise move.
Very true... I'll read the book. ( I'm too influenced by Fox News standards)
I have to keep reminding myself it's only 1-0.
( I'm too influenced by Fox News standards)
Then I'm surprised you can even read!
on a lighter note, how about buchholz? great to see him pitching well, last year was really brutal to watch.
FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK
I can stop reminding myself of that now.
you were saying l-girl?
:(
Fuck Arod. I am feeling my blood pressure going up.
Try doing that in October when the games matter (oh wait, you can't)
you were saying l-girl?
mm. see the comment above yours.
imagine if vtek played for another team in the AL? jacoby could have like 15-20 more stolen bases over the course of a season
eck: "everything's down and in, down and in, why not mix it up, mix in something down and away ... a strike?"
I think Matsui could steal on Tek
yeah i saw it right after i posted it. arod could be at a charity event holding a bunch of kittens he just rescued and i'd still think he's a scumbag
Try doing that in October when the games matter
(oh wait, you can't)
These games matter. You can't play in October unless you get there.
Do Sox fans still cling to the idea that A-Rod is not a good player?
Allan, I never stick my head in the sand if I can help it. I long ago stopped defending Tek. I think he should go into coaching next year.
Like everyone else here, I wish VMart was catching. :'(
eck's gaga-over-the-mfy act is annoying the shit out of me.
I still cling to the idea that ARod is a jerk.
eck's gaga-over-the-mfy act is annoying the shit out of me.
That's not going happening on radio.
no no, you gotta give him credit he's a great player. but he's also a scumbag and i hate him
He's definitely a jerk! No argument there.
But he's a great baseball player, unfortunately.
no no, you gotta give him credit he's a great player. but he's also a scumbag and i hate him
agreed!
I guess ARod is a great player. Frankly I think Jeter is a better overall player. But I just hate ARod, so I am not objective.
Man! This is NOT what I was expecting JtC perfect through 3 and Lester hurling 75 pitches in three innings and giving up more that 7 hits.
This may make me puke on my keyboard.
Frankly I think Jeter is a better overall player.
?!?!?
Come on Jason "Calls a good game" Varitek, magically get us out of this, since you're supposed to have that ability
Jeter seems to get the clutch hits that matter more than ARod does. I would rather have him on my team than ARod.
But why am I even thinking this way? I don't want either on my team!
Jeter better than Alex Rodriguez?? There's no contest, A-Rod is by far the better player, and always has been.
And I say that with probably more appreciation for how good Jeter is than most people here.
hunter jones up
"seems to have more clutch hits" is not a measure of a player. that's just rumour and personal memory.
bases are loaded AGAIN ?!?!?
Jeter seems to get the clutch hits that matter more than ARod does. I would rather have him on my team than ARod.
I hope you have mouthwash to get the bad taste out!
FUCK -- we don't need to be squeezed.
FUCK
Like I said, I am not objective. I hate ARod, I like Jeter (despite all the unnecessary worship he gets everywhere). I can easily be persuaded that I am wrong, but I don't care!
I think this game is making me crazy.
Shit, Lester...Oh, NO.
Oh geez, now Lester is hurt.
in the thigh i hope
Oh this is not what we need...
We cannot lose our best fucking pitcher now
Ouch, the blood just drained from my face 8-0
inside of right knee.
..
well, his night is over.
knee
I don't even give a shit about whether or not we win this game now
I'll take a loss for Lester not hitting the DL
I'll take we win the game and Lester is not on the DL, just bruised.
win it for sid!
Uch, poor Lester. I sure hope he is ok.
Damn.
OH FUCK NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
Well, Lester walked off the field w/ both legs working. That is good.
Yes, likely nothing broken, but he was limping badly...not good.
My knee hurts just thinking about it.
what happens in this game will not affect lester's knee, so LET'S MURDER THESE BASTARDS!
(plus he was sucking, so maybe getting him out is good. hold 'em at 4 and attack the c-man)
OH FUCK NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
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