Red Sox - 020 000 001 00 - 3 8 2LOB-otomy: the Red Sox left the bases loaded in both the sixth and seventh innings. Kevin Youkilis was HBP to start the 10th, but did not move past first base. Boston had a runner on second with one out in the 11th, but Marco Scutaro and Dustin Pedroia could not get him home (or even to third).
Orioles - 020 000 010 01 - 4 9 0
Lackey (7-7-2-3-2, 124) did not have a clean inning all afternoon, but his only real rough patch came in the second. He gave up a two-out single in the third, a one-out single in the fourth (followed by a GIDP), a two-out walk in the fifth, and a one-out single in the sixth. Nothing very serious.
An infield error put Baltimore's leadoff batter in the seventh on first and he was quickly bunted to second. Lackey got a pop-up and, after a six-pitch walk (which included, to my eyes, five strikes), a force play to end the threat.
Hideki Okajima began his second inning of work in the 11th. Cesar Izturis walked and was bunted to second. Miguel Tejada was walked intentionally. Nick Markakis singled to left center and Mike Cameron's throw, cut off and relayed to the plate by Pedroia, was too late.
Victor Martinez hit a two-run dong in the second. Pedroia's sac fly scored Cameron in the ninth.
The Rays beat the Rangers 9-5 and the Blue Jays blew another late-inning lead and lost to the Yankees 4-3. Tampa Bay is 2 GA of New York and 4.5 GA of Boston and Toronto.
Lackey and Matusz faced each other on April 24. Jonathan Papelbon had a very rocky ninth inning, but Boston won 7-6. Lackey also started against the Orioles on April 30. He has allowed three runs in seven innings both times.Scutaro, SS
Pedroia, 2B
Ortiz, DH
Youkilis, 1B
Martinez, C
Beltre, 3B
Hall, LF
Cameron, CF
McDonald, RF
Baltimore (15-41) has lost 10 games in a row, and are on pace to finish the year with only 43 wins.
In this morning's Globe, Nick Cafardo reveals that he now understands being 8.5 games out with 117 games left to play does not equal mathematical elimination. There is, of course, no guarantee that he will retain that knowledge in 2011 or any other future season.
And:
Yankees/Blue Jays, 1 PM
Rays/Rangers, 3 PM
180 comments:
I'd really like to see Lackey turn it around sometime during his contract, hopefully sooner than later.
Hopefully tonight.
and by tonight I mean this afternoon. :/
Anyone have the radio on? They are ragging on NYY & John Sterling.
I just turned it on. Missed it.
Bruins announcer is in the booth. OBie says he still has the look of shock on his face.
Obie: I've never been a part of anything like that as an announcer. I don't know how you deal with something like that, blowing a 3-0 lead.
Castig: Neither have I. Perhaps he should consult with Joe Torre.
[some laughing]
Castig: Or John Sterling.
[much laughter]
Then everybody goes into Sterling imitations. "You know, Susan..."
Obie calls the next two pitches in Sterlingspeak.
My computer wasn't fast enough! :)
Classic mainstream baseball cluelessness. Obie going on about how Lackey shouldn't be "on pace for 17 wins" b/c he's been pitching so badly, gives those numbers.
So Obie, does that tell you anything about what pitchers' w/l records mean?
No?
I didn't think so.
A lot of announcers are still in that in between phase where they will still mention wins and fielding percentage like it means something, but then remark about how it's, "not the whole story".
Time to take the next step, people.
Extra Mart!!!
V-Mart Special!!! All dongs gotta go!
Blue Light Dong!
Patrick, exactly. They're halfway there. Move along!
Today's blue light special - a 2-run dong!
Most runs scored in the AL! Amen!
It will take at least another 20 years.
I'm not kidding. Bill James's ideas are 30 years old* and only a few of them are making serious dents in the establishment's mindset.
(*: A lot of what James wrote was first noted by Branch Rickey and some of James's suggestions -- like Range Factior -- were first discussed in the 1870s)
Last time I watched Jays/Rays, I was pleased with the Jays announcer talking about the 5 errors on Longoria mean nothing: He gets to more balls than most 3B men.
I don't know who the idiots who are calling that game today, but they said the Jays and Yanks are two of the best defensive clubs you'll see, as shown by their rankings in Fielding Percentage.
I don't know who the idiots who are calling that game today, but they said the Jays and Yanks are two of the best defensive clubs you'll see, as shown by their rankings in Fielding Percentage.
Remy does that. Drives me fucking nuts.
I didn't hear the announcer. But he's mentioning how the quality of Lackey's pitching doesn't match his record. Doesn't that point to a clearer view of statistics? Should all baseball press be calling for a ban on mentioning pitchers' W-L record?
But he's mentioning how the quality of Lackey's pitching doesn't match his record. Doesn't that point to a clearer view of statistics?
No. They have been doing that for a long, long time ("not indicative of his performance").
If it is mentioned, it is treated as a fluke, an oddity. And then in the next breath, they will say "Wow, look at Pitcher X in the other league. He's 7-1!!!!
Zen, to me it sounds halfway to a clearer view. They don't say why the numbers don't match, they still (to my hearing, anyway) emphasize the W/L record.
They sound amazed that someone who has pitched so badly could have such a good W/L record, and isn't it a shame that Lackey can hide behind that record, which he doesn't deserve.
The jays third base side ball boy fucked up this game, grabbing a ball that was called fair that bounced over third base and into the corner, making the hit a ground rule double.
The jays mascot just put a post in front of him with caution tape containing him in like a 5 foot space.
Lackey, these are the Baltimore Orioles. Quadruple A.
RS/L
I see what you mean.
Lackey:
Bases are loaded, so now you can feel free to bear down.
Javier Vasquez has been pitching better lately. Matter of fact, he has a no hitter after 4 (albeit with 3 BB).
tied, crap
Zen, it could be partly the way I hear it, from annoyance at people's emphasis on W/L records. I know so many baseball fans who will say a pitcher doesn't deserve a Cy Young b/c he only won x number of games, or talk up some pitcher as the next Sandy Koufax because he won x number of games, and so on. I assume they get it from the mainstream sports media.
There's been some progress, in the fact that guys can win the CY now with only 16 wins while other pitchers have 20+.
i'm generalizing, but that is what sticks in my mind.
fielding is still way behind. very rarely do you hear someone say "well, you can't make an error on a ball you can't get to, so if you have no range ...".
in random emails over the years with boston media people, i get the feeling that the writers are more up on these things, but do not take the opportunity to educate their readers. not sure why -- i think it would work well.
not so clear on how progressive tv guys might be off the air.
i know remy spent a couple of games making fun of UZR (last year?), tossing in FIDC and CIA or whatever else he thought of. it was a bit cringe-worthy, as he was proudly proclaiming his ignorance and closed mind.
MFY - 000 00
TOR - 000 0
Jays pitchers shutting down NY (2 runs in 19 innings so far)
in random emails over the years with boston media people, i get the feeling that the writers are more up on these things
... more up on them than their articles might indicate.
i think i asked about that in my old beatwriter roundtable.
I remember Castig ripping on UZR with regards to Torii Hunter. Tori is one of the best even if UZR says he's been below average.
I wouldn't mind them ripping on it -- no stat is perfect or a catch-all about a player -- if they offered something beyond "I know what I see with my own eyes".
Jays pitchers shutting down NY (2 runs in 19 innings so far)
Their offense has been in the shitter lately overall.
But isn't their less consensus about defensive metrics even in the progressive statistical community?
All right, that last term sounded a little heavy.
I wish the Jays weren't in our division.
I really like that team.
Q to media person, like a team's TV or radio broadcaster:
"You saw every inning of every Red Sox game in 2009. Could you tell me how Jacoby Ellsbury's performance in centerfield May compared with how he did in the outfield in August?"
Supposedly, yes (defensive metrics).
But I have also heard people say that it's near equal to hitting stats now (or within the last 5 years).
Wells dong, 1-0 Jays.
Whoops, 2-0, forgot Lind was on first.
There has been some progress, I agree. I also think that most people working in the mainstream sports media do not see their job as educational or progressive (in the sense of making change, moving things forward). They learned about the game a certain way and pass it along that way, for the most part.
That's just my impression/observation.
Re Remy ripping on whatever stats, people seldom realize how stupid they sound when they say, "That's so stupid because I don't know what it is!"
Who was the worst offender on that? Was it poor old Murray Chass, using a whole column to say "I don't know anything new and I don't want to learn!" ?
W/L was flawed even back in the old days, when teams used only one pitcher per game, because of run support (winning 8-7 vs losing 2-1).
Here is my current most hated ad during baseball games. "Did you know it takes 5 recycled water bottles to make a t-shirt? ... Recycle for Humanity"
Hey, I got an idea. Don't Buy Bottled Water For Humanity.
Fuck You, Poland Springs.
MFY - 000 000 0
TOR - 000 002 0
FKR - 0
TEX -
Hey, I got an idea. Don't Buy Bottled Water For Humanity.
Good call.
mmmmm
Nt how I planned on spending my Sunday. Just now getting in from the LL complex. Had planned on being home by noon, but no one else showed up this morning and I got to fully prep 2 fields for games, drag the other 2 for All Star practices, work 2 pitcher's mounds, and empty about 15 50-gallon trash drums that were mostly overflowing from the games all day yesterday.
Ya-fucking-hoo.
At least it's an interesting game to come home to, although I really should head out int my own damn yard now and do some work there.
Maybe not.
And I concur - FUCK Poland Springs, Aquafina, Dasani, et al.
Petey gets a hit!
And now it says "on-field delay"
??
I bussed tables at the old Poland Springs House in the summer of 1963--back when the only way to get Poland Springs Water was in heavy green quart bottles right from the spring Hiram Ricker found, just down the hill from the hotel.
After a long shift in and out of a hot kitchen in the pre-AC era, nothing was better than grabbing and chugging one of those 32 ouncers.
They're dissing you Beltre.
Make 'em regret it
JGF - yeah, I can see the attraction of that for sure.
But that's a far cry from the over-marketed market saturation that occurs today with what amounts to glorified tap water. It is imo one of the bigger scams being pulled on the public today
O's going to the pen. Runs plz!
Come on Hall, be our savior!
Not to even mention the environmental consequences of convincing so many people that it's better to garb a plastic bottle, use it once, and trash it than it is to get a washable glass out of your cupboard and use it
I wish I didn't need storebought water. We have great water in San Francisco but our building sucks and it comes out noticably metallic. Fine for bathing and washing, but not drinking. I get big 2.5 gallon things that hopefully were not shipped across the country.
3-1
Walk in a run?
damn
I'm lucky, where I have a fresh water spring in the next town over. I fill up a 5 gallon jug every few days.
Zen, have you tried the Brita filters, or something similar? I have one of the pitchers and it does make the water taste better.
I do understand that there are issues with the water supplies in a lot of areas. But all those bottles - uch.
And now I'm seeing images on TV of dead tar-covered dolphins and seagulls washing up ashore down south.
Turns my stomach
I haven't tried Brita lately. Seems like we used to use it. I should float that one.
We use one big, recyclable container a week. Still not good.
Also not good that the Yanks are ahead 4-2 and looking for more.
Runs please.
MFY - 000 000 04
TOR - 000 002 0
Good time to flash your dong, Cameron
I bought a seltzer bottle for carbonating our well-water, but I doubt there's much net savings to the planet after factoring in all those little CO2 canisters tossed in the trash.
It's useful when I need to threaten my wife with a Clarabelle-the-Clown moment, though.
No bunting, please.
FY steps on balloon? I'd like to have seen that.
jtc comes in and right away gives up a double and a single. 4-3 mfy, bot 8th.
Come on, Ortiz, you are our only hope!!!
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It still looked like this in 1963--but burned down a year or two later. The spring--and in those days there was only one--was a few hundred yards away.
Nestle's appetite for Maine aquifers is a story whose ramifications are not yet widely known...but not much of the Poland Springs water shipped today comes from Poland Spring.
Are you fuckers gonna to let Lord Lynch fly all the way across the goddamn ocean and see a fuckin' loss? To the .268 winning percentage Orioles? ...
eat some spinach, papi-eye.
Hit a fucking dong
left wrist.
It's SULTAN time.
It doesn't matter who faces Youk, he will PUNISH them.
yook: start jerkin' the berken
*crossing fingers*
he's on first, so i guess (for now, at least)
FOOOK
April's Red Sox....
sox leave the bases loaded for the 2nd inning in a row.
mdc and jeemer up
Yanks win. Bleh.
jays have lately turned coughing up late leads into an art form.
big out for the big chin.
Errr, I hope it's ok leaving Lackey in for Markakis.
I'd rather see Oki in now.
Time to packy Lacky
BBI and go with wigginton? unorthodox in a tie game, but ...
Oops, apparently not.....
wher the eff was the 2-1??????????
count is 1-4 right now.
walks him on strike 5 (of 6 pitches).
his last batter either way, probably.
whew.
WHEW!!!!!
RUNS, NOW!
Whew.
QS for Lackey. Now we just need to get him some runs.
bit of a slog and no 1-2-3 innings, but:
7-7-2-3-2, 124
Seven innings with 2ER is a better result. Nothing to brag about in the WHIP department, but, we'll take it.
A start!
I'll take two runs in seven innings from Lackey.
dammit
Burned V-Mart for nothing
stagnant today
kinda like the air here......
crap
now manny is hurt?
I don't know what could be wrong with him. That's odd. I don't think they would blatantly do that just to get him out of the game.
gdgd just says injur delay. I do know all 4 of those balls to Tatum were WAY off, according to the gdgd graphic anway.
Yes, they weren't close.
looked like he was holding his chest a bit when farreell was out there. strained something?
in the 9th:
cameron
mcdonald
scutaro
pedroia
RUNS, RUNS, RUNS!!!!
Just like last night, you punks.
OK, decent damage control by RamRam.
Now to smash this weakass pen, and get a win
Methinks ohman will turn out to be a good omen for the Sox
ohman -- here we go!
I'm OK with that bunt. You guys?
Yes, fine here.
1st/3rd for the jockey!
That was rolling too slowly for him to go on contact.
I can't believe they didn't send him!
yes re bunt
C'mon FY.
Squeeze?
sending cameron there would have been amusing....
Do it for Lynch.
ScooTARo!
My son just asked for the squeeze.
TIE!
sending him would likely have gotten bogar out of our hair, however. (silvery lining dept.)
I see run(s)!!!!
Yeah tied!
FY comes through!! Keep it going Papi.
we need a moon shot here.
all right
c'mon Papi. BE Papi.
Does Ortiz's stance look different to anyone?
Interesting move for Scutaro to go to second. I don't think Cameron was expecting that. He was jogging until he saw that.
Is Bard even available? He's second in the majors, I think, with 28 appearances.
Or did he just switch to batting gloves that don't have velcro?
I haven't seen him spit on his hands lately.
Dang. You're supposed to hit it where they ain't.
crap. Gotta go for a few. Win before I get back plz
Pap?
That looked like a strike to me.
it was close. there have been a lot of those today; lackey had two handfuls of them.
Sounds like it looked like a strike to everybody but the ump.
Incredible!
Sweet catch!
Whoa, that was the ballgame. Nice catch!
OMG was that catch as great as Obie makes it sound???
It was "Oh No! Oh Fuck! Oh YES!!!"
wow - nice catch!
I guess it was :)
I think I'm glad Cameron is back!
Was it a great catch? Or was he totally baffled and somehow came up with it???
if he went all "michael kay schoolgirl giddy", no.
but it was damn good.
he did seem to twist around a bit, but he was moving in the right direction! i'll need to see a replay.
Phew...
i was worried he would run out of field and hit the wall.
Well, no win before I get back. But we didn't lose either. Bonus baseball!
And still my yard gently weeps
It was an incredible catch. It was well hit and he had to turn his back to the ball to run far enough. He then had to turn his head to find the ball and make the over the shoulder catch.
mmmmm......
2nd HPB.
Looking for a ruckus ;>
Wow. Hate I wasn't here to see the catch.......
oh wait...I wouldn't have seen it anyway :(
NOW he's calling shit outside?????
FKR - 002 111
TEX - 010 102*
*still batting
Go Rangers go.
Damn Gameday has put one of these ad widgets in the corner that enlarges every time you roll over any part of the ad. Frustrating as hell.
If you pop back and forth to the box score and stats chart like I do it's almost impossible to stay away from.
Very frustrating
I want our old F back :(
yes, that is annoying as hell.
a few years ago, or last year, they had an extra gdgd package, with extra stats and whatnot for $20 for the year and supposedly the ads are not on that version.
not sure if that still is the case or if they reintroduced the ads no matter what.
Uh, FY that is
I can't believe I've been listening to this game for so many hours... and now will miss the end. Crap.
Nondrinkable water on my return, pls.
Still FKR 5-4 after 6
we need to win. we are running out of acceptable pitchers.
bear down, jeem.
I'm in the same boat L.
Been waiting ton go mow since I got home.
But I have to now.
It's been 2 weeks, and 3 since the damn back yard has been done. It reall looks bad and I know I'm at practices tomorrow and Tuesday evening, and a game on Wednesday.
Plus it looks like a storm is brewing, so......
win in my absence plz.
Shit - guess it's a mute point now, eh?
Clean water - now raining here - shitty all around
Bummer.
boo
Sorry Lord L, hate you didn't get to see a win.
Manana
Oh shit. Clean water. Boo.
Just got back from Baltimore - now safely back at base in Cape May.
A couple of questions - was that a DP on Delcarmen's only out. The big screen showed one out but then cut away with the second? Whatever with MdC - can't afford to throw so many balls.
Lackey did the business, and I was more than worried when he had that last batter in the 7th and over 120 pitches.
Okajima was like a suicide note. One innings fine - two was asking for trouble.
Enjoyed the day, stayed to the bitter end, and then had to pay $27 for parking (having driven out of a place charging $25 - we were forced into the expensive place). Loved the Fenway South t-shirts. 40K there last night - looked half full today.
Loads of pics, great time, and I am now 2-0 when watching the Orioles. Think I should write to them....
A couple of questions - was that a DP on Delcarmen's only out. The big screen showed one out but then cut away with the second?
Do you mean did they get the batter Jones at first, and he was called safe? I didn't see the play.
Flew through Baltimore today, spent 1/2 hr in the airport there - talk about Red Sox nation! Jerseys and caps everywhere.
That was who I meant.... as the replay came on they cut away from the throw to first!
Now the ambition goes to seeing the Sox at Fenway. I turned it down three years ago as there was only one ticket available and I had my future wife with me (and we were stuffed at home by the Rockies), so I hope in the next couple of years to do that. Probably not back in the US until September next year. This has been an expensive break!
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