tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post219678996189968103..comments2024-03-29T04:32:39.897-07:00Comments on the joy of sox: Pedro Signs With Philliesallanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04673233312198832937noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-11341163993457166942009-07-17T12:58:11.333-07:002009-07-17T12:58:11.333-07:00"Is there much evidence that it is becoming &...<i>"Is there much evidence that it is becoming "the norm"?<br /><br />Almost none. I'm thinking only of Clemens and now Pedro. I'm almost wondering if aging vets and teams will start considering this. I just don't remember arrangements like these in the past."</i><br /><br />Thanks - I gotcha now. Yes, it will be interestingto see. If it does become the norm, I agree with Andy that it's smart managing and could be a smart career move for many players.laura khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05524593142290489958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-29752147387589155542009-07-17T08:10:47.718-07:002009-07-17T08:10:47.718-07:00"So is this to become the norm for pitchers l...<em>"So is this to become the norm for pitchers late in their career?"<br /><br />Is there much evidence that it is becoming "the norm"?</em><br /><br />Almost none. I'm thinking only of Clemens and now Pedro. I'm almost wondering if aging vets and teams will start considering this. I just don't remember arrangements like these in the past.FenFanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02348863925130603048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-68547076237283114252009-07-17T00:10:56.693-07:002009-07-17T00:10:56.693-07:00This is the new thing. Players are really assured ...This is the new thing. Players are really assured that they will get a half year contract with a contender. It's just smart managing to sign older proven players half way.andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13080026360873456937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-62108966860525179252009-07-16T18:18:28.536-07:002009-07-16T18:18:28.536-07:00After all Minaya Made these guys all vanish in Mon...After all Minaya Made these guys all vanish in Montreal..<br /><br />As General Manager of the Expos, Minaya traded away a number of young players that went on to enjoy significant success upon reaching the major league level. These include:<br /><br />Jason Bay , who he got ,Lou Collier<br /><br />Cliff Lee , who he got , Bartolo Colon<br /><br />Grady Sizemore , he got , Bartolo Colon<br /><br />Brandon Phillips , he got, Bartolo9caseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14214364466933716867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-33072865231173868692009-07-16T18:12:00.943-07:002009-07-16T18:12:00.943-07:00James said...
heh. not much he could have done ab...James said... <br />heh. not much he could have done about that.<br /><br />Well, the Mets missed out on the playoffs by 1 game both of the last two years and lost the NLCS to the eventual World Series winner 4-3, so it's not hard to imagine that if he pitched a little better (or more often) while in Queens he might have another ring.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />I agree at least a shot at one...but i am convinced every move Minaya makes turn to shit....9caseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14214364466933716867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-83912118617976002192009-07-16T14:42:56.982-07:002009-07-16T14:42:56.982-07:00heh. not much he could have done about that.
Well...<i>heh. not much he could have done about that.</i><br /><br />Well, the Mets missed out on the playoffs by 1 game both of the last two years and lost the NLCS to the eventual World Series winner 4-3, so it's not hard to imagine that if he pitched a little better (or more often) while in Queens he might have another ring.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14670045693768623299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-40805007508451492612009-07-16T14:38:19.948-07:002009-07-16T14:38:19.948-07:00"obviously he never brought a championship to..."obviously he never brought a championship to new york."<br /><br />heh. not much he could have done about that.laura khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05524593142290489958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-82079254403979767922009-07-16T14:33:56.612-07:002009-07-16T14:33:56.612-07:00of course, it's been 5 years since he's be...of course, it's been 5 years since he's been on the Sox, but i was wondering if he hoped to match up against them/us only because he has never proven that the sox not resigning him was a mistake, and i imagine that someone with pedro's, er, pride, would care about that sort of thing, even after many years. <br /><br />(of course, i have no idea if that's true. i'm just wondering)<br /><br />i don't recall if he made more than one start against the sox with the mets, but i remember him getting shelled once. and obviously he never brought a championship to new york.Soxlosophyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297442834435511006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-69676765164163432482009-07-16T14:17:16.670-07:002009-07-16T14:17:16.670-07:00Besides Pedro - who, as you said, was looking for ...<i> Besides Pedro - who, as you said, was looking for work - anyone else? </i><br /><br />Roger last year, and there's some talk of Paul Byrd pitching a little later this year, and before the season they talked about Schilling trying to do it.<br /><br />Maybe it only happens with players going to or who previously played for the Red Sox?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14670045693768623299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-87317492512054074122009-07-16T14:15:41.854-07:002009-07-16T14:15:41.854-07:00This is awesome. I can't wait to see him pitc...This is awesome. I can't wait to see him pitch again; I don't see any reason why he can't have a couple more successful years. It's not like he was some boneheaded thrower, he was a smart pitcher in the mold of Greg Maddux, but with incredible stuff. Even if he's lost some of that stuff, he'll still be able to get some guys out.<br /><br />Honestly, I've never loved a baseball player as much as I loved Pedro, and as long as he stays away from the Bronx, I'll be an ardent supporter.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14670045693768623299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-87219828015425212212009-07-16T14:14:54.180-07:002009-07-16T14:14:54.180-07:00"In my opinion , he would care less, I don..."In my opinion , he would care less, I don't think he holds anything against the Red Sox, but I don't know either way."<br /><br />I would agree. It's not like he just left the team.laura khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05524593142290489958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-86165835188906615452009-07-16T14:13:53.237-07:002009-07-16T14:13:53.237-07:00"So is this to become the norm for pitchers l..."So is this to become the norm for pitchers late in their career?"<br /><br />Is there much evidence that it is becoming "the norm"?<br /><br />Smoltz was coming back from surgery, so his situation wouldn't be evidence. Besides Pedro - who, as you said, was looking for work - anyone else?laura khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05524593142290489958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-949932274050602142009-07-16T13:44:35.343-07:002009-07-16T13:44:35.343-07:00Soxlosophy said...
I wonder if he's hoping ...Soxlosophy said... <br /><br /><br />I wonder if he's hoping to match up against the Sox in the World Series.<br /><br /><br /><br />In my opinion , he would care less, I don't think he holds anything against the Red Sox, but I don't know either way.9caseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14214364466933716867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-86353395200890984222009-07-16T13:41:04.773-07:002009-07-16T13:41:04.773-07:00So is this to become the norm for pitchers late in...So is this to become the norm for pitchers late in their career? Rather than play a full season, wait until mid-season to sign with a contender?<br /><br />To be fair, Pedro <em>was</em> looking for work to begin the season, so this is just a team looking to fill a need as the playoff push begins.<br /><br />Still, it's an interesting development and I wonder if more aging veterans, including positional players, will look to do this to reduce the wear and tear of a full season. Smoltz, in effect, is doing this. No reason to think that Schilling might do that, too, if the right opportunity surfaces.FenFanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02348863925130603048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-90265283415323509892009-07-16T13:25:25.383-07:002009-07-16T13:25:25.383-07:00I guess he'd rather lose his 100th career game...I guess he'd rather lose his 100th career game, and risk bumping his career ERA towards 3, than be bored.<br /><br />I wonder if he's hoping to match up against the Sox in the World Series.Soxlosophyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297442834435511006noreply@blogger.com