tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post6754100128836579119..comments2024-03-25T10:19:58.493-07:00Comments on the joy of sox: Red Sox Trade For Victor Martinezallanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04673233312198832937noreply@blogger.comBlogger98125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-73460400284437849102009-07-31T17:41:32.229-07:002009-07-31T17:41:32.229-07:00I sort of agree with vrictare although I'm not...I sort of agree with vrictare although I'm not as negative about it and have more faith in Theo but VMart is horrible at throwing out runners and as a defensive catcher and 'Tek's been adequate offensively this year while Masterson's flexibility was an important part of the pitching staff. I hope Theo wasn't just making some deal because he couldn't get Halladay.Iridescencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08013729213264992061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-28126691145874270302009-07-31T16:18:35.375-07:002009-07-31T16:18:35.375-07:00And ignore how I repeated myself again in that res...And ignore how I repeated myself again in that response post. Sorry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-63995873656621909862009-07-31T16:18:03.156-07:002009-07-31T16:18:03.156-07:00Redsock: We may have a surplus of future pitchers,...Redsock: We may have a surplus of future pitchers, but guys who can help right now? I'd reckon fewer than you think.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-40423924078929798402009-07-31T16:16:48.819-07:002009-07-31T16:16:48.819-07:00-He was a long man. We need somebody who can throw...-He was a long man. We need somebody who can throw more than two or three innings if we continue to carry 5-inning buddies Penny and Clay.<br /><br />-Alternate explanation 2: His elbow injury from last year is limiting his throwing and so he was being moved to less throwing-intensive first base. Shoppach got the playing time at C because he can still play there and has a future there. Martinez doesn't.<br /><br />-A good point about how Wake isn't a reason not to do the trade. He's just one of the reasons.<br /><br />-I want to say it again because it's important to the overall point: Martinez will not remain a catcher. Mark my words--by this time either next year or the year after, he'll just be a slow, below-average defensive first baseman.<br /><br />-Dammit, I can't find a Lebowski quote to counter that. <br /><br />You can call it my opinion. But he's a big catcher coming off a year with a major elbow injury who has been catching--and therefore throwing--a lot less this year compared to the rest of his carreer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-39280996316923261022009-07-31T16:05:11.184-07:002009-07-31T16:05:11.184-07:00Jeez. If we're not getting 1978, now we're...Jeez. If we're not getting 1978, now we're hearing Lyle-Cater.<br /><br />WTF?<br /><br />I like Masterson, but Theo is wisely dealing from a surplus. And to get a good player, you usually have to give up a good player.<br /><br />I think you may be in the minority on this one.allanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673233312198832937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-77665165613842505892009-07-31T16:04:00.410-07:002009-07-31T16:04:00.410-07:00-Masterson is one of the most likeable guys on the...<i>-Masterson is one of the most likeable guys on the staff and he's also a fairly good bullpen guy who gives you a lot of innings when needed. We lack anybody to fill his spot in the pen right now, with nobody really ready in the minors.</i><br /><br />I don't really know what likeable means, and don't see how it matters. And what exactly was his spot, anyway? 4th best righty out of the pen? Tito has been underworking the pen lately, with Ram Ram and Saito not getting regular work. I don't see how replacing the 5th or 6th guy in the bullpen with Bowden or Cabrera from the minors will hurt that much...<br /><br /><i>-V. Martinez was being converted away from catching. This is not a guy who will stick behind the plate--he's not sturdy enough. There's a reason Cleveland had him playing a lot of 1b and DH(nearly 50/50 between catcher and 1b, I dunno about DH time.)</i><br /><br />Alternative explanation: he had a good platoon mate in Shoppach, and having Shoppach and Martinez in the lineup was just as good if not better than having VMart and Garko.<br /><br /><i>-Who catches Wake?</i><br /><br />I'm not even sure Wake will come back this year (herniated disk and bone fragments does not sound good), but I guess we'll see when he does. I don't think that's a good enough reason not to do this trade, especially if they think he might not come back the next few weeks.<br /><br /><i>-I want to say it again because it's important to the overall point: Martinez will not remain a catcher. Mark my words--by this time either next year or the year after, he'll just be a slow, below-average defensive first baseman.</i><br /><br />In the immortal words of The Dude: "Well, that's, hmmm, like, just, ehh, your opinion, man". Time will tell. Plus, he's only signed for next year. No reason to be worrying about the year after that until it looks like the Sox are even considering extending him. That seems premature, for now.A Conformerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17312939307696267987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-26209840961219467452009-07-31T15:55:21.620-07:002009-07-31T15:55:21.620-07:00One more point: The bit about V-Mart's hitting...One more point: The bit about V-Mart's hitting at Fenway smells suspiciously like the Danny Cater effect.<br /><br />Back in 1972, the BoSox traded Sparky Lyle for Danny Cater, a first baseman from NY, because he had a "Fenway Swing".<br /><br />Needless to say, it didn't work out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-46815699900024150132009-07-31T15:49:03.297-07:002009-07-31T15:49:03.297-07:00Okay, Theo has a history of stupid deadline deals(...Okay, Theo has a history of stupid deadline deals(the Manny one is the only good one) but this takes the cake. The problems, as I see them:<br /><br />-Masterson is one of the most likeable guys on the staff and he's also a fairly good bullpen guy who gives you a lot of innings when needed. We lack anybody to fill his spot in the pen right now, with nobody really ready in the minors.<br /><br />-V. Martinez was being converted away from catching. This is not a guy who will stick behind the plate--he's not sturdy enough. There's a reason Cleveland had him playing a lot of 1b and DH(nearly 50/50 between catcher and 1b, I dunno about DH time.)<br /><br />-Who catches Wake?<br /><br />-I want to say it again because it's important to the overall point: Martinez will not remain a catcher. Mark my words--by this time either next year or the year after, he'll just be a slow, below-average defensive first baseman.<br /><br />-This trade doesn't address the Sox flaws. Yeah, Tek's BA sucks, but he's been producing more that a lot of the league at catcher. Among starting catchers, Tek is 6th in OPS in baseball. Our needs? Ironically, despite our vaunted pitching depth, we need a started. Penny has been avergage mostly but is slipping to sub-par, Buchholz has been almost Matsuzaka-like. Matsuzaka's his own problem, and while Beckett is nails and Wake is...well, Wake, Lester's still a little shaky.<br /><br />Not to mention that without Masterson we need an arm, especially since we still employ Saito, who has been a huge failure.<br /><br />Theo, you disappoint me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-66690474224681227182009-07-31T14:44:50.359-07:002009-07-31T14:44:50.359-07:00I assume they'll do a kind of 60/40 or 70/30 s...I assume they'll do a kind of 60/40 or 70/30 split of Varitek/Martinez at catcher. Then when he's not catching, VMart can play 1B, Youk will go over to 3B, and Lowell will either sit or (occasionally) spell Ortiz at DH.Zenslingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06040836002694584468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-65919404304469883312009-07-31T14:31:16.101-07:002009-07-31T14:31:16.101-07:00Phew, that was a lot of commentary to get through....Phew, that was a lot of commentary to get through. So in the end we get Victor Martinez and Casey Kotchman? Not sure what it all means. Does Tek lose his job? What does this guy add? His BA seems to have declined lately. I am sure that powers that be know what they are doing, but time will tell.Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15720293202890878993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-27215449943316945042009-07-31T14:09:37.988-07:002009-07-31T14:09:37.988-07:00He'll get a ring, too. Lucky guy.
Comment Of ...<i>He'll get a ring, too. Lucky guy.</i><br /><br />Comment Of The Day Award goes to Ofer!laura khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05524593142290489958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-55911647626700114572009-07-31T13:56:48.790-07:002009-07-31T13:56:48.790-07:00CaKeY said...
I'm thinking he'd be DH'...CaKeY said... <br />I'm thinking he'd be DH'd quite a bit too.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Did we trade Papi?9caseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14214364466933716867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-36989177566868289752009-07-31T13:38:39.575-07:002009-07-31T13:38:39.575-07:00guess we don't need to come up w/ a nickname f...<i>guess we don't need to come up w/ a nickname for Laroche.</i><br /><br />I was calling him La Rochaaah.. rolling the RCaKeYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09468864363827558756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-84285040888557059172009-07-31T13:34:09.404-07:002009-07-31T13:34:09.404-07:00guess we don't need to come up w/ a nickname f...<i>guess we don't need to come up w/ a nickname for Laroche. Did get to see him play, though.</i><br /><br />He'll get a ring, too. Lucky guy.A Conformerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17312939307696267987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-11567131964929917332009-07-31T13:32:40.434-07:002009-07-31T13:32:40.434-07:00guess we don't need to come up w/ a nickname f...guess we don't need to come up w/ a nickname for Laroche. Did get to see him play, though.nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12044296357860322585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-14164440162266252432009-07-31T13:25:31.338-07:002009-07-31T13:25:31.338-07:00I always feel bad for these guys...............for...<i>I always feel bad for these guys...............for like 5minutes, then I'm good...</i><br /><br />Me too............<br /><br />I know they know it's part of their chosen profession. But I feel for them when it first happens.<br /><br />Masterson is really into being friends with everyone in the clubhouse, promoting goodwill, diversity, and such. I've thought it must have something to do with his parents being missionaries. It's no wonder MDC and others will miss him.laura khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05524593142290489958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-85702695272186270162009-07-31T13:22:55.842-07:002009-07-31T13:22:55.842-07:00One thing I noticed about Masterson is his hair! H...<i>One thing I noticed about Masterson is his hair! He's let it grow back a little bit. I knew he looked weird!</i><br /><br />I heard him talking about that with Castig on pre-game last weekend. Masterson said he has been shaving his head for 14 years and is trying to grow it in, not sure how far he'll get.laura khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05524593142290489958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-82294712395821904322009-07-31T13:21:22.526-07:002009-07-31T13:21:22.526-07:00I'm thinking he'd be DH'd quite a bit ...I'm thinking he'd be DH'd quite a bit too.CaKeYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09468864363827558756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-63087833043614890812009-07-31T13:03:34.760-07:002009-07-31T13:03:34.760-07:00I guess that's it then.
Hopefully we use Ma...I guess that's it then. <br /><br />Hopefully we use Martinez as a catcher. As a first baseman he's not that impressive.mattymattyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08291132296368578632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-86698657508484278452009-07-31T12:57:52.292-07:002009-07-31T12:57:52.292-07:003 minutes to go. Looking quiet for the remainder ...3 minutes to go. Looking quiet for the remainder but you know anything can come out 5-15 minutes after.<br /><br />And I have to leave now! Bollocks.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14809080115678512743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-75299843826128461522009-07-31T12:55:23.303-07:002009-07-31T12:55:23.303-07:00Castig really liked Masterson.
One thing I notice...Castig really liked Masterson.<br /><br />One thing I noticed about Masterson is his hair! He's let it grow back a little bit. I knew he looked weird!Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14809080115678512743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-13743298257775853512009-07-31T12:55:01.404-07:002009-07-31T12:55:01.404-07:00I'm with you 9C. About five minutes then what...I'm with you 9C. About five minutes then whatev. Move on.<br /><br />But you can tell Masterson was surprised. He said all the right things but he's somber and seems to be taken aback.<br /><br />NESN kept the shot on the whole interview (no sound)... Castig gave him his phone so he can put his number in. Haha Joe won't let him go! Masterson's trying to leave the clubhouse and Joe keeps talking to him, etc. That was good stuff. They just cut away.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14809080115678512743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-8000287239828409182009-07-31T12:52:49.588-07:002009-07-31T12:52:49.588-07:00LMAO. Castig is interviewing Masterson now for th...LMAO. Castig is interviewing Masterson now for the radio since they did this interview live. Heidi left then Castig walked up, gave him a hug, then gave him the gift certificate for some Boston area restaurant for being interviews before the game!Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14809080115678512743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-45010248927792132022009-07-31T12:52:12.460-07:002009-07-31T12:52:12.460-07:00Ish said...
This is the first time I've see...Ish said... <br /><br /><br />This is the first time I've seen an interview on TV of someone who has just gotten the news he's been traded.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />I always feel bad for these guys...............for like 5minutes, then I'm good...9caseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14214364466933716867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730822.post-4015716934211317872009-07-31T12:51:01.725-07:002009-07-31T12:51:01.725-07:00MDC was nearly in tears today when he got the news...MDC was nearly in tears today when he got the news about Masterson. Masterson talking about the guys he came up with, the bonds, the brothers. But he says he'll be creating new ones, and he'll be keeping in touch, etc.<br /><br />This is the first time I've seen an interview on TV of someone who has just gotten the news he's been traded.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14809080115678512743noreply@blogger.com