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November 1, 2007

BP's Internet Baseball Awards

Baseball Prosepctus has published the results of its 2007 awards. Much more info at the link.
2007 IBA AL MVP:
Rnk Name               1   2   3  Ballots Points
1. Alex Rodriguez   1354  39  11   1430   19527
2. Magglio Ordonez    23 823 232   1283   10831
3. David Ortiz        26 211 345   1159    8245
4. Jorge Posada        6  78 180    866    5519
5. Vladimir Guerrero   6  51 153    899    5246
  
2007 IBA NL MVP:
Rnk Name               1   2   3  Ballots Points
1. Matt Holliday     407 331 192   1210   11859
2. David Wright      299 194 153   1005    9180
3. Jimmy Rollins     226 227 145    996    8349
4. Hanley Ramirez    128 128 146    937    6734
5. Prince Fielder     76  92 199    996    6476
  
2007 IBA AL Cy Young:
Rnk Name             1    2    3  Ballots Points
1. C.C. Sabathia   819  287   95   1265   10830
2. Josh Beckett    292  435  192   1139    7439
3. Fausto Carmona   83  219  301    899    4574
4. John Lackey      27  123  262    739    3182
5. Johan Santana    43  115  179    757    2956
  
2007 IBA NL Cy Young:
Rnk Name             1    2    3  Ballots Points
1. Jake Peavy     1097   82    5   1190   11585
2. Brandon Webb     87  902   89   1106    7705
3. Brad Penny        1   50  347    627    2626
4. Roy Oswalt        0   12  114    415    1339
5. John Smoltz       1   21  119    331    1164
  
2007 IBA AL Rookie of the Year:
Rnk Name                1    2    3  Ballots Points
1. Dustin Pedroia     838  178   89   1137   10145
2. Daisuke Matsuzaka  138  328  275    917    5457
3. Brian Bannister     57  150  151    600    2927
4. Jeremy Guthrie      66  155  124    480    2672
5. Hideki Okajima      16  115  130    501    2093
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18 comments:

  1. AmyNovember 1, 2007 at 7:01 PM

    Outraged that Beckett did not win the Cy Young. Especially after Sabathia melted down in the ALCS (but I know the votes were taken before the post season). But delighted that PedROYa won!

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  2. AmyNovember 1, 2007 at 7:22 PM

    I take it these are not the REAL awards?

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  3. allanNovember 1, 2007 at 8:35 PM

    Yes, not the BBWAA voting.

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  4. timNovember 1, 2007 at 10:31 PM

    Wedge mgr of the year? Obviously the criteria didnt include finishing off playoff series :P

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  5. TonyNovember 2, 2007 at 7:10 AM

    Say what you want about A-Rod, but I think every person that voted for these awards that did not have him first in the AL MVP vote needs to explain themselves in writing. There is no way A-Rod doesn't deserve any AL MVP award, be it the BBWAA or any random baseball blog.

    I'm okay with this year's results. Wedge, for the regular season, does deserve Manager of the Year.

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  6. frozen tundraNovember 2, 2007 at 10:58 AM

    how the heck does Sabathia beat out Beckett for the Cy Young???

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  7. laura kNovember 2, 2007 at 11:42 AM

    These aren't the "real" awards, but they are often more based in reality than the real ones.

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  8. frozen tundraNovember 2, 2007 at 11:48 AM

    I know, but you don't really need to compute too many "stats" to figure that Beckett ought to win the in the official voting...didn't he finish with more wins?

    and a WS ring! guess I'm biased =)

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  9. thatdietcokegirlNovember 2, 2007 at 11:56 AM

    psht they have cc over beckett? that's pretty ridiculous ;p

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  10. allanNovember 2, 2007 at 12:30 PM

    These are the votes of BP readers -- who are usually way more intelligent that the the writers who bestow the "official" awards.

    This was done at the end of the regular season -- like the other awards -- so playoff performance does not matter.

    Wins are one of the worst ways to evaluate a pitcher. Even so, Beckett had 20 and CC, Carmona, Lackey and Wang all had 19. Even if you give more than a glance at wins -- which you should not -- it's a wash.

    Based solely on ERA+, Lackey and Carmona win.

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  11. frozen tundraNovember 2, 2007 at 12:40 PM

    just seems like Sabathia finished with a significantly higher point total than the others...do the BP readers not give more weight to ERA?

    forgive me as I'm not familiar with these awards...

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  12. allanNovember 2, 2007 at 12:41 PM

    I agree - I expected the finish to be closer.

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  13. PatrickNovember 2, 2007 at 6:18 PM

    I dunno, I expect fully that Sabathia is this year's Cy Young. He pitched a lot more 7 inning games that Beckett, more quality starts, and a lot more innings in total. He had a better ERA, and what, one less win? Wakefield got 17 wins, does that make him more worthy of the Cy Young than Santana?

    And of course his point total is going to be higher if he pitched 40 more innings than Beckett.

    I love Beckett, and would much rather have him on the team than Sabathia (cuz Josh is a post season animal, and isn't afraid to drop the F bomb), but I am frusterated that Red Sox Nation seems so biased.

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  14. allanNovember 2, 2007 at 9:59 PM

    It would not surprise me to Beckett not get the CY. You can make a strong case for any of the top 4-5 picks.

    But the writers get the picks so wrong so often, the MVP and CY awards are pretty much meaningless. Same for the GG.

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  15. Richard FreedmanNovember 3, 2007 at 11:32 AM

    Sabathia had a string this season of 10 straight games not giving up more than two runs....yet got ONE win out of it. If he had Boston's bats, he would have won at least six of those games and finished with 24 or 25 wins. The awards are based on regular season, not playoffs which, of course, Beckett excelled. If you based the awards on post-season, A-Rod would never win MVP.

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  16. allanNovember 3, 2007 at 11:46 AM

    Sabathia had a string this season of 10 straight games not giving up more than two runs....yet got ONE win out of it. If he had Boston's bats, he would have won at least six of those games and finished with 24 or 25 wins.

    Actually, he won 4 games in that 10-game stretch (July 24 to September 8), not 1.

    On the other side, here are two Beckett starts:

    July 15, Tor: 8-7-2-2-8
    July 25, Cle: 8-4-1-0-7

    Both losses. Plus a ND against the Angels on August 17 (7-5-2-1-8, 1 unearned run).

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  17. laura kNovember 3, 2007 at 4:17 PM

    didn't he finish with more wins?

    You should hang around Joy of Sox more. It will help disabuse of silly notions like judging a pitcher by his W/L record. Just think about how little that has to do with a pitcher's performance.

    and a WS ring!

    Obviously that can't be figured in either.

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  18. takubouNovember 5, 2007 at 9:23 PM

    I wish Daisuke will be rookie of the year.

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