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May 12, 2008

G41: Twins 7, Red Sox 3

Red Sox - 300 000 000 - 3  12  1
Twins - 202 030 00x - 7 11 0
Buchholz struggled again (4.1-8-7-5-4, 90) and the Red Sox's early 3-0 lead -- helped by Manny Ramirez's #498 career home run -- vanished.

Unlike Sunday night, there was no comeback. Although Minnesota retired the Red Sox in order only once, Boston had no runner advance past second base from the second to the ninth innings. Indeed, after the first, only three Red Sox made it past first.

J.D. Drew went 3-for-4 and Alex Cora and Manny each had two hits. Craig Hansen pitched a perfect seventh inning -- two groundouts and a strikeout on 13 pitches.

Tampa beat New York 7-1 -- and are now .5 GB Boston in the East.

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Clay Buchholz (4.50, 97 ERA+) / Livan Hernandez (3.83, 104 ERA+)

Buchholz has a drastic home/road split this year:
     GS   ERA  IP     H   R  HR  BB  SO  BABIP
Home 3 1.04 17.1 14 2 0 9 15 .298
Road 4 7.40 20.2 27 18 3 6 24 .381
2nd-place Tampa hosts the .500 Yankees, also at 7 PM (Pettitte/Garza).

329 comments:

  1. WE HAVE OATMEAL!

    We're so good, our #9 hitter is batting .887!

    Crisp, CF
    Pedroia, 2B
    Ortiz, DH
    Ramirez, LF
    Lowell, 3B
    Drew, RF
    Varitek, C
    Casey, 1B
    Cora, SS

    Gomez, CF
    Harris, 2B
    Mauer, C
    Morneau, 1B
    Cuddyer, RF
    Monroe, DH
    Young, LF
    Lamb, 3B
    Everett, SS

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  2. For those of you interested in the "what was Bot explaining to Jeemer at Comerica?" story, we've had a very cool development.

    First go here, then go here.

    Not only are there more photos and videos, but the person who took them is in my own post about the batting practice we saw.

    (And what are the odds... her name is Joy.)

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  3. Caseys lifetime ba/obp/slg/ops vs Hernandez - 520/.567/.760/1.327

    Probably a good time to sit the man with the woodchuck attached to his chin.

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  4. Note: Moderation will be on tonight.

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  5. Ack! ESPN tonight. I haven't seen NESN in ages.

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  6. Espn? I hope it isn't JM!!

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  7. Thankfully he's only on Sunday nights. But Steve Phillips is no picnic.

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  8. If you had the top of the first in your "When will Remy say the word 'eephus'? pool, you win!"

    Almost another dong for Coco!

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  9. !!!ocoC

    Would be nice to get on top of these guys and just pound them tonight.

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  10. Morgan only does Sunday night.

    As far as I know.

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  11. Off to the races.

    I found some working wifi, so I get to join folks tonight.

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  12. Great for Coco! He sure is making his mark these days.

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  13. BUNT????????????????

    are you fucking kidding me???

    cut that shit out!

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  14. Dustin barely out on NESN's views.

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  15. I think he beat it.

    Moderation on tonight?

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  16. I love when we score in the first inning.

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  17. why is it that i always have to "sign up" again, instead of just logging in? so weird.

    1-0.
    tavarez and not timlin?
    hmmm

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  18. Getting spammed on non-game threads during games?

    Run(s) are good.

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  19. Watched a little bit of the Monster Monday on NESN - Remy thinks the weak spot on this team is the middle relief with SS being the second trouble spot. I think I could agree with that assesment.

    Papi brings him home!!!

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  20. Sweet. Too bad about the sacrifice, eh.

    Laura: what's in papelbon's back pockets in that gambling video? It looks pointy.

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  21. Phil: it's a bottle of water.

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  22. There he goes...trotting the bases...yes, ladies and gentlemen: the best Left Fielder ever to play for the Red Sox.

    I love Manny. I did not love Manny in 2003-4 the way I love him today.

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  23. Besides the waterbottle, I mean. It's pointy on the right butt cheek. Just slack from having his pants stretched to accomodate the bottle?

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  24. So why Tavarez and not Timlin? Any theories?

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  25. I love Manny. I did not love Manny in 2003-4 the way I love him today.

    AMEN. same here.

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  26. So Livan's ridiculously low BABIP... not so sustainable.

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  27. were the announcers getting bored and doing the x-word?

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  28. So why Tavarez and not Timlin? Any theories?

    Probably because they were trying to trade him (if the rumors were true).

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  29. Tavarez is useless and nobody likes him. Timlin is useless and Francona likes him.

    Honestly, Timlin has more upside.

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  30. "I love Manny. I did not love Manny in 2003-4 the way I love him today."

    Always loved him the same: a whole effin' lot.

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  31. tek = statue.

    looking, looking, looking.

    ...

    ott was mentioned re manny's dong. manny is 13 or so away from him. manny one back of eddie murray.

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  32. I got the Manny jersey the winter we got him. Granted it was a replica. But they were only 50 bucks back then. I still wear it--even though there's a permanent Sharpie mark on it from Veteran's Stadium.

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  33. DFA can also be a prelude to a trade, and there's been plenty of trade talk with Colorado. I haven't seen any speculation about any interest in Timlin. (Maybe Milwaukee needs a new closer for their new committee.)

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  34. i have loved manny since 1993, but really loved him since 2001.

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  35. Timlin vs. Tavarez

    I think it also has to do with what's expected of each. They believe Timlin can still get the 3 outs in a relatively low-leverage situation. Tavarez's advantages have been nullified: Aardsma's a better long man, and several others are better backup starters.

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  36. bow before the curve, twins!!!

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  37. Wow, a big shot at that dude, as Remy says DON has a better swing than the one Gomez just took.

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  38. What is Timlin's upside over Tavarez? Tavarez has started, he has done long relief; Timlin hasn't done either or not in a long time. Both are unreliable, but at least Tavarez has more versatility.

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  39. For a while there, many Red Sox fans hated him.

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  40. If the Sox plane goes down over the everglades, Timlin would be better equipped to bag Papi some gator and roast it on a spit.

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  41. And that's important in a pitcher.

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  42. I didn't know any Sox fans (as distinguished from Sox-covering columnists) who hated Manny. The furthest anyone got was questioning whether he was providing a good return on his (then-high, now-typical) salary.

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  43. Well, fans on this blog used to rag on Manny.

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  44. Papi would roast Timlin on a spit. Might be a little chewy and gamey, but it would keep him alive.

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  45. Everyone gets ragged on. I've been reading this blog for years, and nothing stands out, but maybe I have selective memory.

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  46. Oh, come on. Let's not give up the lead....

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  47. Or maybe I do. But this wasn't ragged on in the way everyone gets ragged on. This was real anti-Manny stuff. I thought so anyway.

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  48. Well, fans on this blog used to rag on Manny.

    Damn their filthy hides!

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  49. As for Fenway reaction--it seems like you always had the one fan in your section who'd yell at Manny to hustle or whatever, and I'd just assume the guy read Dirt Dogs the day before and was told he should hate Manny. But the for the most part the at-the-park love was always there, as opposed to your call-in show people and journalists.

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  50. do call-in show ppl = anonymous commenters?

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  51. yes, your anonymous internet types, too

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  52. also, racists have always hated Manny and still do

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  53. And according to today's reports, our next head-scratcher is going to be: Colon or Buchholz?

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  54. Should be a 27-18 Red Sox win!

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  55. "also, racists have always hated Manny and still do"

    that's where the lazy thing comes in. but you already mentioned dirt dogs.

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  56. And then the national media would come into Boston, read CHB and his ilk and tune into EEI and hear the mouthbreathers, and go on to report than Red Sox fans are tired of Manny.

    Even though Manny always got huge cheers at Fenway.

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  57. Pettitte's no-no is history. (1 2/3)

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  58. Why would racists hate him? It isn't like he's a highly paid and successful dark-pigmentned athlete with dreadlocks and a winsome smile.

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  59. i do love those dreads and that smile!

    (what a heartbreaker for andy)

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  60. Yeah that's when I realized it's best to ignore certain media: The media was telling me we all hated Manny, yet I'd go to Fenway and 30,000 people would cheer him loudly over and over.

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  61. heidi pulling a chevy chase a la spies like us

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  62. It must be sad to be racist sox fans these days. It's been a while since they could root four most of our position players. With Matsusaka, they can't even root for a racially pure pitching rotation.

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  63. A Jonny Gomes stolen base leads to a Rays run, 1-0 TB.

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  64. i bet you already knew to ignore certain media

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  65. racists fan can always console themselves that those people are just good at sports

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  66. "bet you already knew to ignore certain media"

    well...yeah

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  67. Let's see if FY sac-bunts with two outs.

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  68. Jere said...
    technical foul!


    ha

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  69. question for you all, do you see something in HH's face that tells you he is pitching against himself, rather than competing?

    no?

    i didn't think so.

    steve phillips does.

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  70. Adam Everroyo. (same face as Bronson. Sorry if this has come up before)

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  71. really? i like bronson's face. i'll take a look.

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  72. Was that the guy some say is faster than Jacoby? Because he almost got doubled up on that play.

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  73. he is supposed to be very fast.

    also he's papi's little guy, supposedly.

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  74. L-girl said...
    question for you all, do you see something in HH's face that tells you he is pitching against himself, rather than competing?

    no?

    i didn't think so.

    steve phillips does.



    thats hilarious!
    steve p. is a douchebag.

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  75. everett's on base % is .231. still can't believe he whacked a dong last night.

    i can't see steve phillips's face, but i can tell he's full of shit.

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  76. Is ESPN showing the ball-marking stuff, too?

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  77. no ball marking here. what's up?

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  78. but we just dfa'd our bowler.

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  79. They're showing how the bat boy goes out to the ump with special marked balls for the ump when Manny comes up, then takes them back and puts them in the "Manny box" under his chair after the at bat. Since the milestone HR is coming up. Standard practice nowadays for MLB.

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  80. Imagine how many runs we could score if we didn't spot our opponents two outs before starting a rally.

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  81. thanks jere. i figured it was b/c of manny's 500 but they weren't showing it on espin.

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  82. They spot us outs. We spot them baserunners.

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  83. phillips calls HH a junkballer

    amazing, these guys can get a top paying job and do no research, no prep work, and be as ignorant as fuck.

    what a country.

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  84. i mean what phil said, not what allan said.

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  85. Here's a video I made with a great Castig/Trup call of the play where Tavarez dove at the guy at on second from the mound when time was out. Rare to hear Trup and Castig cracking up like that. (The video is just shots I took of the two of them at Fenway--better than a blank screen.) I love the sound of the guy in the background losing it.

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  86. jere, i'll have to remember to look at it tomorrow.

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  87. hey espn -- if HH is throwing too many breaking balls and getting knocked around, why don't you mention that one way to stop that might be FOR THE CATCHER TO START CALLING FOR OTHER KINDS OF PITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    (thank fucking god our GM is not steve phillips. )

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  88. STEVE PHILLIPS PLEASE SHUT UP YOU ARE SUCH A MORON WHY DO YOU EVEN HAVE A JOB SHUT UP SHUT UP

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  89. whew, i feel a bit better now

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  90. Wow, that was actually good. I like it. What the fuck, I'll take it!

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  91. FC
    GIDP

    hey steve, i guess clay looked into the mirror and decied what he saw. ... you stupid piece of asshole dumb fucking shit dickheaded pissdrinking fuckwad

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  92. they rag on clay for allowing 3 (now 4) runs but praise livan for pitching as he does and allowing 3 runs -- makes sense.

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  93. GDGD still thinks it's 3-3 after the inning's ended. Can we keep that score?

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  94. oops, not fy. oh well. fuck yeah anyway!

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  95. I can't decide who I want to win at the Trop tonight.

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  96. You aren't sure you want to root against the MFYs?

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  97. "I can't decide who I want to win at the Trop tonight."

    you're killin me patrick

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  98. orel says he had 8 career SB and 2 triples

    ...

    wow -- dead right. 8 SB and 3 3B!

    he was 8 for 11 in SB attempts.

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  99. yeah, what's up with that? it's a tad too early to consider tb a serious threat.

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  100. When Hershiser and Sax were on LA, did everyone say "Orel Sax" a lot, or was that just at my house?

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  101. When Hershiser and Sax were on LA, did everyone say "Orel Sax" a lot, or was that just at my house?

    Maybe Andy's house, but that's it.

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  102. Jere said...
    When Hershiser and Sax were on LA, did everyone say "Orel Sax" a lot, or was that just at my house?

    Jesus jere, weren't you like 8 then...

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  103. yeah Andy was probably taping on little schlongs to their baseball cards and "performing" the Orel/Sax show for his grandparents.

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  104. born in '75, 9-mayor. All my friends were sayin' "Orel Sax."

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  105. 5-zip, Pettitte losin' it in the 4th

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  106. Jere said...
    born in '75, 9-mayor. All my friends were sayin' "Orel Sax


    Thats Fairfield county right ......Ct's version of The Hills.

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  107. 9mayor! I just got that now. Too complex for me! (I had to explain it to Allan too.)

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  108. Clay sat at Mel's Diner for a change there.

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  109. jere, splain the mel's diner thing again? is it ott?

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  110. 9mayor: I was from the "slums" of Fairfield County...not the "gold coast." 84 territory, not 95.

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  111. Hmmm... maybe I should go back to work. I liked the score better when I was there! No worries though, Manny's going to be a bad man again here.

    Also, why do I always miss Coco doing cool stuff? Seriously, I'm always on the train or in a show when he justifies my irrational love.

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  112. 5-zip, Pettitte losin' it in the 4th

    with the yanks a .500 club this year, am i going to do a S-post every time they lose? that could add up. not sure how to proceed.....

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  113. I don't in anyway want the Rays to catch the Sox , but if thay can somehow finish in 2nd place......Good for them.

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  114. it would be very cool if tb could finish 2!

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  115. 5 runs on 8 hits thru 4 for Andy

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  116. unassisted triple play in cleveland against the jays. those are the best!

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  117. I would be very happy if the Rays finished ahead of the Yanks no matter what places they were in. Can you imagine Hank after that season??

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  118. the ass dribbler got the UTP. I was hoping it was a brak brak brak.

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  119. they showed it but we couldn't figure out the 3rd out. we only saw 2.

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  120. i remember randy velarde (as an A) turning a UTP against the yankees. it took me like 3 or 4 replays to figure out all the outs.

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  121. Clay is "fresh off his first 2-3 outing" --Don

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  122. The video is on gameday..catch , tag base, tag runner..

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  123. right, we saw that, but who is the out when he steps on the base? is it a force? and if so, how?

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  124. runners were on first and second

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  125. NESN just showed it. He caught it, touched second--and the guy you saw just past second was the runner on first originally, as both runners were running on the pitch. So he tagged that guy for the 3rd out.

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  126. yeah the touching of second was an out because the guy who had been on 2nd was around 3rd at that point

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  127. ah-ha. leave it to espn to not say that or show it. thanks.

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  128. i am not a fan of mr. monroe.

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  129. Clay doing worse than Pettitte tonight

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  130. Everybody gets to score. Well, not us.

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  131. Ouch. Just shuttled off to the store for provisions, and come back 4 back. Oh well.

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  132. Manny and Youk mocking Tek's swing in dugout

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  133. now Youk imitating Casey's horse kick

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  134. And then Remy says it's like a horse!

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  135. sounds like they're having a good time over there in nesn land

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  136. Argggh. Just dropping in to express my frustration.

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  137. sounds like they're having a good time over there in nesn land

    Wish I could say the same thing. FSN = Fox Sucks Nuts.

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  138. sarah, you don't have espn tonight? we had fox all weekend, but now i swear it's even worse.

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  139. Very fundamentally sound hit by Cora

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