Blue Jays - 000 000 210 - 3 14 0The Red Sox battered Cecil with a four-dong fifth, with home runs from Jason Varitek (his second of the night), David Ortiz, Jason Bay and Mike Lowell.
Red Sox - 002 060 00x - 8 15 0
The big man slammed a 1-1 fastball into the camera well in dead center field. (He also doubled off The Wall in the eighth.) It increased the Red Sox's lead from 3-1 to 5-1 and sent Fenway into a frenzy. After Kevin Youkilis (3-for-5) singled to left, Bay hit a bomb over everything in left and Dr. Doubles followed him with a shot into the Monster Seats.
Penny (6.2-9-2-1-2, 96) pitched well, but wilted in the seventh. ... Jacoby Ellsbury set a new Red Sox record (and tied the major league mark) for most putouts by an outfielder with 12 catches. By inning: 222 212 001.
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Brett Cecil (1.80, 254 ERA+) / Brad Penny (6.69, 74 ERA+)
Cecil is a rookie lefty who turns 23 in July. He has made three starts for the Jays -- facing Cleveland, the Athletics and the White Sox this month -- pitching at least six innings every time out. Totals: 20 innings, 17 hits, 4 walks, 15 strikeouts.
BP 2009 describes Cecil, a 2007 supplemental-round pick, as a "big lefty with low-90s velocity, a plus slider, and a decent changeup ... projects as a mid-rotation horse".
Penny has also gone at least six innings in each of his last three starts, though he has had less success (18.2-21-5-14) than Cecil.
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Terry Francona talked a lot about David Ortiz on WEEI today. Extra Bases has lengthy quotes. One quote, in response to whether Ortiz could be finished as a hitter, Tito said:
No, I don't feel that way. You can go back and go a long way, because I've done some research, and look at Yaz. He had some injuries, and he went, what, 56 games one year. It was a pretty good dry spell, and he had what, 10 years in the major leagues and everyone thought he was done. I mean, everyone thought Pedroia was done before he got started. ...Research? Does Tito have a B-Ref subscription?
Yaz did not hit a home run in his first 57 games in 1972. That drought lasted until July 22! Yet what Tito may not know is that, when combined with a homer-less streak to end the previous season, Yaz actually went 72 games without a home run -- from September 4, 1971 to July 21, 1972.
That link shows all of his HR-less streaks, including a 43-gamer in 1976: July 10 to August 22 (my first game at Fenway!).
RS, have you checked out the Posanski-Bill James article about Randy Johnson as the greatest among the generation's dominant quartet of RJ, Clemens, Pedro, and Maddux?
ReplyDeleteIt's a kick in the balls when he goes into the bit about RJ having the best year, best two consecutive years, best three, etc. Pedro's "mediocre" 1998 screws him in this regard.
But James doesn't share his rating system for good seasons, which combines a lot of factors. If you consider ERA+ to be the measure of a man, Pedro handles RJ easily. RJ never had a season which broke an ERA+ of 200; Pedro had five. (Maddux, two; Clemens, three.) Not to mention that 2000's ERA+ was nearly 300 (as I learned on this blog, of course.)
Koufax, winning 27 games in 1966, had an ERA+ of 190.
What's the argument against ERA/ERA+ as the measure of a pitcher's performance, I wonder? Similarly, isn't it obvious that OPS/OPS+ should be the measure of a hitter?
I'll have to check it out tomorrow.
ReplyDeleteMarco Scutaro, SS
Aaron Hill, 2B
Alex Rios, RF
Vernon Wells, CF
Adam Lind, DH
Scott Rolen, 3B
Lyle Overbay, 1B
Rod Barajas, C
Travis Snider, LF
Jacoby Ellsbury, CF
Dustin Pedroia, 2B
David Ortiz, DH
Kevin Youkilis, 1B
Jason Bay, LF
Mike Lowell, 3B
Rocco Baldelli, RF
Jason Varitek, C
Julio Lugo, SS
It's not so much the Home Runs ...he's batting .203, that concerns me more...
ReplyDeleteyeah.
ReplyDeleteseeing papi like this depresses me. i had a dream that i ran into papi in switzerland and took him on a tour. wierd.
and i love it on this blog when some of you sabermetrixxx out. it's great fun!
I'm a rank amateur at any kind of baseball metrics. But it is fun.
ReplyDeleteDear people, tomorrow night, look for me in the front row in dead center, directly over that garage door on the left--the one that's now the Bleacher Bar. Gray jersey, catching Papi's third dong of the year (after 2 tonight).
ReplyDeletefor a few reasons, we have had reconnected cable to our living room TV -- as it had been in years past -- so no more watching baseball in the bedroom.
ReplyDeletei think this may be the reason for flo's slump. if he gets some hits tonight, we'll know for sure.
TSN2 preview again -- and NESN!!!!
ReplyDeleteUnbelievable that Buffy is MIA.
Game time! Another beautiful night for baseball.
ReplyDeleteAnd I thought the slump was my fault all this time.
ReplyDeleteIt might be.
ReplyDeleteI love my living room set-up, so I am happy.
Who is with Orsillo?
ReplyDeleteWhat's the argument against ERA/ERA+ as the measure of a pitcher's performance, I wonder? Similarly, isn't it obvious that OPS/OPS+ should be the measure of a hitter?Both are luck-dependent to some extent that I think more sophisticated sabermetric stats try to eliminate. Also, they have their own specific issues.
ReplyDeleteERA doesn't take into account number of innings pitched and undervalues pitchers like Wake who alternate between awesome and terrible, since at some point being more terrible doesn't actually hurt so much.
OPS weights slugging too heavily and doesn't account for baserunning.
None of this is helped by the reweighting that the + versions do.
Eck, huh?
ReplyDeleteeck says yook was "sorely missed"
ReplyDeletehahha sorely!
Nice!
ReplyDeleteTHERE'S ACATCH!
ReplyDeleteOkay, you're supposed to hit balls to dead center TOMORROW night. Nice catch, Jacobo Arbenz.
ReplyDeleteOTsingleT
ReplyDeletelet's show cecil some major league hitters.
ReplyDeleteGood evening, Joy Nation.
ReplyDeleteWent out for a very pleasant walk around the neighbourhood this evening and got in just in time for the first pitch.
What makes this evening even better? I have a burrito from Chipotle coming TO ME!
It's a nice ending to a day that was spent waiting at the hospital for four hours while my mother had an upper GI followthru scan.
Did DO say "humping the mound"?
ReplyDeleteeck, the blue jays ace's last name is not pronounced "holiday".
ReplyDeleteWhat is happening with your mom, Ish?
ReplyDeleteHey fellas, when facing a pitcher you've never seen before, it's okay to take a few pitches.
ReplyDelete"eck, the blue jays ace's last name is not pronounced "holiday"."
ReplyDeleteOh yeah? Well a Harvard professor once said something about something and a dumbass called him an asshole and everyone laughed because it's cooler to be dumb than smart! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Amy she had to drink nasty liquid, have an x-ray and see if the liquid went through her system to see how it's working. Half hour later she had an x-ray. Hadn't gone through yet. Had an x-ray each half hour starting at 10:30... At 2:00 they finally got the shots they wanted and we were out of there.
ReplyDeleteShe's had parts of her small bowel removed in recent years. Small parts but they need to keep an eye on things. She's also very susceptible and does get bowel obstructions. Fun times.
I see that behind the plate the team has found a place to squeeze in advertisements...between the advertisements.
ReplyDeleteI hope all is okay, Ish. Is she home now? Or still at the hospital?
ReplyDeleteTo further Benjamin's point from days ago, every team in MLB has reached double-digits in a game at least once this year. Except for the Padres, who haven't scored more than 8 runs in any game.
ReplyDeleteSo good to see Youk.
ReplyDeleteEven better to see him now!!
ReplyDeleteOr, Eck, it can go up to .400 and beyond!
ReplyDeleteOutstanding AB again by Youk. Got fooled by the changeup once, but not twice.
ReplyDeletethanks, don!!!!
ReplyDeleteHey, a nice welcome to you Canadian folk!
ReplyDeleteOK, Youk and Bay back together again.
thinking of this inning right now with two on, no out, makes you realize just how crazy it was when we got 12 runs home before anybody got out.
ReplyDeleteAmy she's home. Luckily apart from drinking the nasty liquids all she needed was the x-rays and she was good to go.
ReplyDeleteShe was HUNGRY though. Wasn't able to eat anything since 9:00 last night.
Looks like tomorrow night you'll be getting NESN again, Allan. And anyone else across Canada who's watching TSN2.
that's what I'm talkin about
ReplyDeleteGlad to hear that, Ish. Hope she continues to be okay.
ReplyDeleteFirst two on, and we don't score. Sigh.
ReplyDeletewasted.
ReplyDeletefucking sweet play from fy
ReplyDeleteSomeone needs to teach Eck about adverbs. It is driving me crazy.
ReplyDeleteDon says the ball landed off the wall.
ReplyDeleteAnd FY got the ball quickly but couldn't tag in time! Nevermind the ball was in a bad spot. That throw is one Manny would have gotten the OF assist on.
No damage done.
ReplyDelete1st pitch pop up. thx.
ReplyDeletehis missed location stuff was good there, though.
ReplyDeleteStay Thirsty, My Friends
ReplyDeleteThe Yanks hit 3 dongs in a row to start the 2nd. Fortunately, Kevin Cash was the next batter.
ReplyDeleteBAL: 00
ReplyDeleteMFY: 13
TEKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
RIDE, CAPTAIN, RIDE on your mystery ship!
ReplyDeleteTHAT'S my TEK!!
ReplyDeleteGet it on, bang a dong, GET IT ON.
ReplyDeleteride, ish
ReplyDeleteWho has the most HRs on the team right now? Bay?
ReplyDeleteWho'd have thought that Tek would have more HRs and a better BA than Papi...
Lugo's highballin' it!
ReplyDeleteand here we are at game 40, wishing papi was hitting as well as tek ......
ReplyDeletesecret double!!!!!!!
The secret weapon!
ReplyDeleteJere forgive me but I have no idea what you meant. Funny I looked back to make sure I spelled everything right too. I'm looking at a delicious burrito about to be eaten so I might just be delerious.
Lugo! Gotta love the bottom of the order.
ReplyDeletehighball hitter, lowball drinker. or something.
ReplyDeleteyay cecil
ReplyDeleteOuch...
ReplyDeleteIsh, I don't know what Jere meant either.
ReplyDeleteEck's speculating about injuries.
ReplyDeleteoh, just cueing you to "ride," meaning to tell Captain to ride on his mystery ship. You had beat me to it, so my comment ended up after yours anyway.
ReplyDeleteorganist playing funeral music?
ReplyDeleteI feel like he just banged his face in the ground.
ReplyDeleteDr. Eckersly on the job.
ReplyDeleteit's not unprecedented to "ask" ish to say the "ride" thing...
ReplyDeleteGuess he is staying in, despite Eck's diagnosis.
ReplyDeleteorganist playing funeral music?I'd go with Yakety Sax.
ReplyDeleteJere, gotcha. Makes sense. So much in life relies upon timing.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of which, I am progressing through your book and am almost finished. Things are heating up and I am really enjoying it.
I'm having a problem with the thread over-caching
ReplyDeleteish: cool, glad you're liking it.
ReplyDeleteif he has the stuff, eck, it's not too early. everyone has a rookie season.
ReplyDeleteLETS GO FLOOOOOOOO
Meunier, too bad you weren't having a problem with the thread over-cashing. That WOULDN'T be a problem!
ReplyDeletehey - I'M counting out the jays!
ReplyDelete7th putout for LBJ already -- in 11 outs.
ReplyDelete8 catches for position 8!
ReplyDelete"7th putout for LBJ already -- in 11 outs."
ReplyDeleteand that fan in MY seat tomorrow has been on TV seven times. Terrible.
8 catches for position 8!
ReplyDeleteHe only needs five more to break the record for most putouts in a 9-inning game by a CF
thnaks efd, reminds me i need to buy an updated record book
ReplyDeleteDon thinks the question of who's the single season record holder for GIDP's is sort of a negative Aflak trivia question.
ReplyDeleteRelatively quiet thread tonight. Guess we all exhausted ourselves last night.
ReplyDeletebirds have 2 in 4th, trail shiteaters 5-2
ReplyDeleteLBJ ruling the playing field!!!
ReplyDeleteEllsbury wants the record.
ReplyDeletelyndon needs the 3rd out here to have 2 putouts n each inning
ReplyDeleteSit.
ReplyDeletePop fly homers in the Bronx tonight. Penny Looking decent?
ReplyDeleteEck's going bridge. You know. Bridging the gap between being insightful and interesting to being annoying.
ReplyDeleteWait. Nope bridged that already. Now he's bridging to something else.
1-2-3
ReplyDeleteHOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteTEK!! HOT!!!
ReplyDeleteDid we have a bet on how many HRs he would hit this season, or was it just his BA?
Jere, that could be you tomorrow night, catching Varitek's dong!
ReplyDeleteinto jere's lap ... if he was there
ReplyDeletewatch, tomorrow's game will set a record for fewest fly balls in a game.
ReplyDeleteTek second on the team with Hrs. Hah.
ReplyDeletepapi at .200
ReplyDeletetek with 2 solo taters
we are thru the looking glass....
Here we go we're riding that mystery ship again! That ship is extra mysterious tonight! Bang a dong and then plug a gap!
ReplyDeleteDamn Ellsbury. Haha he takes so many crazy chances on the basepaths doesn't he?
And you were all ready to send him out to pasture....
ReplyDeletesafe or out -- ump completely out of position
ReplyDeleteTHE LARGE FATHER!!!!!! BIG DADDY DONG!!!!
ReplyDeleteHOORAY BIG PAPI!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteGOOD TIMES
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
ReplyDeleteLIVING ROOM TV MOJO!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteSuicide watch for Jere?
ReplyDeleteYAY!!!
ReplyDeleteWOOOOOO!!! LOVE that crowd!!!
ReplyDeletethat's probably the happiest I've ever been for a home run in the 40th game of the season.
ReplyDeleteI gotta remind myself to listen to the highlights on the radio. I wanna hear Castig's call!
ReplyDeleteTears in my eyes! Gotta love the Papi and the fans behind him there.
ReplyDeleteRedsock, you'll never watch baseball in the bedroom again.
ReplyDeleteapres le fucking deluge ...
ReplyDeleteWhat a smile!
ReplyDeleteAllan, keep that TV in the living room... It obviously WAS your fault.
ReplyDeleteWOW a three dong inning!
THUNDER BAY!!!!!! DOUNGHOMRE BRITISH COLUMBIA CANADA!!!
ReplyDeleteeck: "I'm surprised they didn't get the bullpen up when i said to get the bullpen up."
ReplyDeleteTHUNDER!!!!!!!!!!!
ohhhh waa ohw aaa
AY BAY BAY
ReplyDeletenot to be out-DOUNG!
ReplyDeleteEck: And we thought Yankee Stadium was Happyland tonight! No Fenway Park is Happyland tonight!
ReplyDeleteHAPPYLAND!
HOLY SHIT!
ReplyDeleteThey can't stop hitting 'em!
ReplyDeleteWHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
ReplyDeleteFUCK
YOU
CITO
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BACK DOCTOR DONG!
ReplyDeleteEck says he left him in too long.
ReplyDeleteYa think???
BAND BOX!!!Get it on, bang LOTS of dongs, GET IT ON!
ReplyDeleteI'm currently scrambling to grade before my final Wed night class of the semester. But I was keeping an eye on the game on this old shitty computer and had to pop in to celebrate:
ReplyDeleteDAVID DONG!
Whew. That was weighing on me...
I love baseball. What joy!
ReplyDeletePAPI! OMG WHAT AN INNING!
ReplyDeleteThis inning feels like sex.
ReplyDeleteHoly fucking crap. This is some answer for the Yankee back-to-back-to-back.
ReplyDeleteFour-dong inning.
Wow.
Stay Thirsty, My Friends
ReplyDeleteWow, that brought everyone out of the woodwork! Where have you all been?
ReplyDeleteI'm telling ya. There's something in that water in Boston. Know what it is? It's a whoooole lotta dirty! Blue Jay killers right there.
ReplyDeleteI would have to say Pedro but come on how can you really make that call for sure. They all have their justification of being the best. Pedro's stats though are by far the best right?
ReplyDeleteredsock said...
ReplyDeletelet's show cecil some major league hitters.
Wed May 20, 07:16:00 PM
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the introduction is complete.
My last comment was to Zen's first comment of the thread.
ReplyDeletePorn Star Triple
ReplyDeleteBALD TRIPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteDELUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Baldelli's mitochondria seem to be in fine shape.
ReplyDeleteWhat? Only three bases? No Dong?
ReplyDelete:)
Welcome to a Red Sox inning Mr Baldelli, of whom I sat mere inches from while he was talking up a blondie.
ReplyDeleteThe team is on the Cycle and has batted around!
ReplyDeleteIf tek hammers one here I might actually put hamsters in my ass.
ReplyDeleteLBJ cut down on a double.
ReplyDeletethen
HR
1B
HR
HR
3B
Tek starts it and ends it...
ReplyDeleteand hamsters across California breathe a sigh of relief.
ReplyDeleteIf tek hammers one here I might actually put hamsters in my ass.Let me run out to the pet store.
ReplyDeletethat first comment from our blue jays friend may also be his last. :>)
ReplyDeleteAn offensive madness is sweeping the MLB simultaneously. To wit: the Braves (still ongoing) 9-run 4th inning.
ReplyDeleteI've been posting this everywhere since it is so awsome;
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aGTNS13SDU
Ms. Piggy sings Peaches "Fuck the Pain Away".
10!!! Ties Red Sox record.
ReplyDeleteTen for LBJ!
ReplyDeleteEvening, all. I see several large dongs, one of them Dominican and two of them by the supposed impotent captain. I am not at all saddened by these sights. In fact, WOO.
ReplyDeleteI feel like Eck was abducted by aliens and had his vocabulary changed.
ReplyDeleteL pulling in! She's gonna be annoyed at missing this fun.
ReplyDeleteI feel like Peaches should write a song about Boston's dongs tonight.
ReplyDeleteI wish Veritek had a speech issue like Eck so we could call him Tekersley
ReplyDeleteQuite a game. And only the 6th inning.
ReplyDeleteJust what does Eck mean by the bridge?
ReplyDeleteKK
ReplyDeleteHe may be throwing almost nothing but fastballs, but he looks pretty good tonight, Eck.
ReplyDeleteEDUCATED CHEESE
ReplyDeleteI think my computer is Canadian. It said I spelled neighborhood wrong and I should spell it neighbourhood. Also, unrelated, thinks "Nevermind" is spelled wrong!
ReplyDeleteLaura's Boy is putting out tonight!
ReplyDeleteL says hi. And is glad for Mr. Americo!
ReplyDeleteNew RS record for LBJ! Almost to the MLB record! Tell Laura to hurry up and watch.
ReplyDelete11 - new sox record
ReplyDeleteHi, Laura!
ReplyDeleteIsh, I thought that was an Andy comment about putting out!
I think my computer is Canadian. It said I spelled neighborhood wrong and I should spell it neighbourhood. Also, unrelated, thinks "Nevermind" is spelled wrong!It might be Brit. What does it say, realise or realize?
ReplyDeleteOfer, it likes both realize and realise.
ReplyDeleteAnd BTW, Penny is building up some major trade value tonight.
ReplyDeleteOfer, it likes both realize and realise.Tyre or tire?
ReplyDeleteAlso, unrelated, thinks "Nevermind" is spelled wrong!It is, unless you're referring to a Nirvana album.
ReplyDeleteAnd Penny's ERA plummets, down below 6 now.
Tyre tire
ReplyDeleteBOTH!
Bard throws seeds? Is that better or worse than cheese?
ReplyDeletethis game feels like a real shot across the bow of the first place team here. Notice has been served, WE are the DOMINION!
ReplyDeleteIsh, what word processor is it? Word? Word Perfect? Something else?
ReplyDeleteOr not a word processor at all?
ReplyDeleteTyre tire
ReplyDeleteBOTH!That's actually a bad example, since Tyre could be the city in Lebanon and tire could just be the verb of getting tired. Anyway, I should stop now. Your computer is probably from the Falklands.
From Baseball Almanac; 2 more PO's and Ellsbury breaks the record of 12 in a 9 inning game for an outfielder held by Lyman Bostock and Earl Clark.
ReplyDeleteAmy it's firefox.
ReplyDeleteI would love to see Papi with a double-sided dong here.
ReplyDeletePapi was ON that slider. He stayed with it and fouled it into the seats 1B side like he's seeing the ball better.
ReplyDeleteThen he goes backwards K. My sentiment is the same as the crowd: "Awwwww!"
That was inside.
ReplyDeleteHmm, Firefox on my computer rejects realise and accepts neighborhood.
ReplyDeletePerhaps you downloaded a British or Canadian version of Firefox?
Peavy!!! Trade for Peavy with Penny and Lugo.
ReplyDeleteFuck give em nick green and a minor league pitcher if they want youth.
ReplyDeleteAmy I think he said Bard throws C's as in roman numeral 100. I really really want to believe this was the case.
ReplyDeleteLOL, Andy. I either cannot hear well or I just figure Eck is talking some strange lingo I don't know. Thanks for the explanation.
ReplyDeletePenny done
ReplyDeleteUgh bad bounce
ReplyDeleteHmm, time to take out Penny?
ReplyDeletePooooooooooooooollll him. Say it outloud with a feminine male voice.
ReplyDeleteHurry up MDC
ReplyDeleteKinda like Stewie on Family Guy
ReplyDeletePenny ruining his nice line for the night...
ReplyDelete