Royals - 000 000 000 - 0 4 1Lester (8-4-0-2-8, 115) outdueled Bannister (7.2-3-1-4-7, 115) and Dustin Pedroia's double off The Wall scored Aaron Bates with the night's only run.
Red Sox - 000 000 01x - 1 3 1
Mark Kotsay singled to start the bottom of the eighth. It was only the second hit for the Red Sox to that point; Jacoby Ellsbury had singled in the fifth. After two foul attempts, Nick Green bunted pinch-runner Bates to second. J.D. Drew struck out for the second out. On a 0-1 pitch to Pedroia, Bannister uncorked a wild pitch, and Bates took third. FY hammered the next offering off the Monster and Boston led 1-0.
In the ninth, Jonathan Papelbon was on his game, firing fastballs at 95-97, and needing only 11 pitches to retire the Royals' 3-4-5 hitters.
Lester worked out of a few jams. He had a runner at second with no outs in the second, but struck out Miguel Olivo, got Alberto Callaspo to fly to right and fanned Ryan freel. He stranded mark teahen at second after a two-out double in the fourth.
An infield error and Teahen's third hit of the night put Royals at first and second to begin the seventh. Olivo flied out to deep center. Rocco Baldelli (in for Ellsbury who was ejected on a play at the plate in the fifth) caught the ball and fired a one-hopper to second that nailed Teahen trying to advance to second. Jose Gullen tagged and took third, but there were now two outs. John Buck grounded harmlessly to third.
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Brian Bannister (3.87, 111 ERA+) / Jon Lester (4.16, 112 ERA+)
Current Royals roster against Lester: 5-for-50 (.100/.179/.120)
Current Red Sox roster against Bannister: .396/.423/.625 for a 1.048 OPS. Drew is 4-for-9 with a double and a dong. And OMG -- Julio Lugo is 3-for-4!
NYY/LAA at 10 PM: Chamberlain/Saunders
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1. J.D. Drew, RF
2. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
3. Kevin Youkilis, 3B
4. David Ortiz, DH
5. Jason Bay, LF
6. Jacoby Ellsbury, CF
7. Jason Varitek, C
8. Mark Kotsay, 1B
9. Nick Green, SS
I feel a good game coming up tonight. Just feel it.
Apparently the Mets have traded Ryan Church to ATL for Jeff Francouer.
Anyone who lives in New York will soon feel a slightly stronger breeze. What is it? Francouer swings and misses.
Oatmeal looks tastier tonight.
Win, plz.
I'm getting sick and tired of coming home and having a good buzz ruined by the box score.
Hitting the wine bar after service :)
Shalom, ya'll.
I always thought Laura was a little bit of a spark-plug, but I never thought of her as a resistor before. [/endnerdyhumor]
eck: "and the yankees are hot, they've won something like nine of their last 10, i don't know what"
jeez
I wonder if the CIC is gamethreading...
I'll be here off and on. I have laundry to fold and other exciting things to do while watching tonight.
we though remy didn't do any prep - eck makes remy look like he crammed for 5 hours before every game
Sit.
mini-Houdini
Bannister is on the all-house team, with Matt Stairs, Bobby Doerr, Jose Mesa.
Honorary member...Clark Gable.
Tom House
Dennis Lamp
Gotta get in the house. So ring Gary Bell.
Have to build the house: Wilbur Wood.
tek saving his throws -- for what?
Hm, I don't know about putting Wood on the house team.
olivo with 3 BB all year -- .272 OBP!!
Tom Hall.
l-girl--you need wood in a house, even a brick house! Besides, he was a big fat guy and an inspiration to fatties.
Eck's NO-NO
Nook Logan.
Jim Hutto.
That's good, benjamin! Nook!
Homer Bailey (and all the other Homers).
George Stablein.
John Barnes (and all the other Barneses).
Steve Bedrosian
Brian Shackleford.
Don Castle
John Mansell.
Uh, you want to get ridiculous?
Michael Bowden
Carlos Villanueva
Wimpy Quinn
Rolando Roomes
there's got be a few players in the closet.
Ron Gardenhire
Kotsay?
Ben Sheets
This has gone crazy while I was gone.
Barnes is good. But I don't get Shackleford. As in a shack?
Stove Bedrosian?
Holy crap, this is gettin' outta hand.
Thought Kotsay was sitting tonight.
Livan Hernandez
Sheets, Kotsay... I guess it's the anything-in-or-around-the-house team.
Yeah, shack.
Don Zimmer.
Charlie Dorman
But his name's not Liwan.
Do it for FY Jr.!
Chummy Gray
Yeah, all the Homers, that's good.
And obviously if we're having Kotsay, Gardenire and Bedrosian, we might as well have all the Woods!
Tito Francona
Carpet McLightbulb
On our first trip to Europe, we would always see signs advertising "Chambres / Cuartos / Cameras / Zimmer".
And every time, Allan would point and say BOOOO, ZIMMER!!
Every time. :)
Cosby in the booth, eh.
Holy shit, Bill Cosby in the booth!
he said cosby and then there was the voice -- before any picture -- i thought it had to be an imitator.
Billy Butler can work in the house...
Earlier tonight, I said Benjamin is the best at this, he comes up with wild stuff.
Miah Murray
We've been saying Butler out loud, I was wondering who would put him in the house.
And Charlie Zink, with a Spanish Z.
Eck: "there's nobody on base, nothing's happening"
I don't know, I kind of like to see pitches, the guy at the plate, stuff like that.
Cosby voicing the show the damn game sentiment for all of us.
Tony Suck (uh)
I'm still waiting for additional applicants to the beverage-animal team. Teahen is feeling lonely...
Nicely recovered by Green.
Green owns a fookin' cannon.
gotta know what rule cosby is talking about.
Cliff Chambers
Joba Chamberlain arguably counts twice.
Bo Jackson
Amos Booth
Chambers, that's a good one.
Benjamin, your all-dwelling team is very inventive.
Ofer: Jack Coffey, 1918 Red Sox
Coco
Bagels for Birds/Jays
TOR: 000 0
BAL: 000 0
Tom Hausmann
I hope the Angels do something useful tonight.
Boston public school system has had no new books in 12 years? That is so sad.
No, it's criminal.
Benjamin--you must do the crossword puzzles with a pen! You're slick and quick.
Bill Sodd.
Get Youk's shikse off the teevee.
John, you have me confused with Buddha.
We should donate a few copies of 1918.
I have to look into how to do that from here.
now we know eck's reading level.
l-girl--worth remembering that Jno Kozol's first book 'Death at An Early Age' was about his not-good experiences subbing in the Boston schools.
There is no pen.
Ofer: Jack Coffey, 1918 Red Sox
Is Jack an animal?
Youk's shikse??? What do you want, a lady named Esther with a big nose and a wig?
l-girl--so you know my aunt, eh?
Jno Kozol
I didn't know he was related to Peralta.
John, I certainly know that. Also Common Ground, by Anthony Lukas.
It's not so different from NYC or Philadelphia or any US city. It's just very, very sad to hear that.
Some of my best friends are shikses, but so's Enza Sambataro.
My aunts, too. :)
But geez, I can't believe anyone would say. What would you call her if she was black? Youk's...?
We Johns have to bring the rest of the world around to our view of spelling, rs....
Would you mind if someone called Enza's husband "her Jew boy"?
Why would you identify anyone that way? It's very derogatory.
Marty Hogan.
l-girl--I'm very much a chauvinist about my natal city, so it bothers me particularly that the Athens of America, the Hub of the Universe cannot get books to children. Criminal, yes.
Only Teahen gets to be on both the animal and the beverage teams.
John, as a NYer, I feel the same way about my city, plus cannot imagine why anyone thinks Boston is the hub of anything. :)
What would you call her if she was black? Youk's...?
Schvartze?
I'll desist if you find these terms offensive, but it's been a generation since I've heard them used in any non-jocular way.
Textbooks probably mention the Yawkeys owing the Red Sox in the present tense.
Eck repeating the myth that aggressive baserunning helps the batter (it's very distracting).
It's the dang Hub of Baseball for most of the threaders here, lgirl!
I do find them offensive.
Not only the words "shikse" and "schvatza", but calling this woman "Yook's Shikse".
It's his wife. A person. A woman.
Well, it's a great baseball town. Little doubt about that.
I have to be off the thread for a few innings, not sulking, just folding.
She was a person, a woman, and she needed to get off the teevee.
Well, apparently a jack is a male donkey, so Jack Coffey would count in the beverage+animal team.
BTW, is the female of some kind of animal called a saw? Or sough, or something similar?
female pig is a sow
WTF
Sow=lady pig
Fuck fuck. I knew he was about to get tossed for that helmet throw.
Oh, man, what was that?
Yeah, I am here. Just catching up with the thread.
I think LBJ was safe.
Safe.
tito gets a long leash
FWIW, I think shiksa is derogatory. Even in jest. Just as I would find kike derogatory.
Ofer, a female pig is a sow.
What happened there? Was LBJ trying to steal home, or was it a passed ball or something? GDGD is light on the details...
And who got tossed? LBJ?
ball to green
kotsay took off for second (why?)
catcher to 2B, to 1B, then lyndon takes off, 1B to C, live he looked out.
What happened there? Was LBJ trying to steal home, or was it a passed ball or something? GDGD is light on the details...
Ball got away from the catcher. Kotsay tries to run to second and gets caught in a rundown. Ellsbury breaks for home and slides in safe but is called out. He spikes his helmet and gets tossed.
replay - safe for sure.
fuck
maybe that's why tito got to yell so much
Can we get a ruling on "goy"?
yeah - fuck you bloomie
Well, it requires some leniency, but there was a minor league player called Bloodsaw. I think that if you allow blood as a beverage (for some...), and saw as sow, then it would count for beverage+animal, too.
observation -- we could have used that run.
Goy---same to me as shiksa. All terms that my older relatives used in a derogatory way, so to my ear, they are not just descriptive, but derogatory.
Benjamin, for the record, I find none of those terms offensive. But I can't think of anything I do find offensive, so maybe I'm not the right person to answer...
Amy--I agree, but English has borrowed the Yiddish and now they sit in our common storehouse of insults and derogations, waiting for a Philip Roth or whoever who knows how to get them to do tricks on the page.
But I can't think of anything I do find offensive
Baked falafel.
Maybe it's a generational thing. Hearing my grandmother and aunt use those terms as insults certainly colored my view of them.
Ofer, you don't find kike or wop or the N-word (I can't even type it) offensive?
NESN cuts to commercial even though Youk was safe. WTF
Baked falafel.
Oxymorons don't offend me.
WTF SHOW THE FUCKING GAME
I forgot to mention last night, ofer, that the people I know who talk about 'Israelites' actually spell the word 'Isrealites.' That's offensive to this English teacher!
Was there a pitching change???
Is this just my NESN broadcast or everyone's?
No, Bannister is still pitching to Papi.
Finally back. WTF.
Maybe Cousins was working the NESN feed too.
So what was that? How many pitches did we miss?
Ofer, you don't find kike or wop or the N-word (I can't even type it) offensive?
In the sense that I would be offended by somebody using them, no. And if I know somebody's on my same wavelength and understands who I am, I fucking love racist jokes. The same way I love pedophilia, dead baby and holocaust jokes. So no, I don't find them offensive.
I would probably never use them to describe somebody, outside of a joke.
And now more commercials. We already saw this half inning's commercials.
weird. my nesn never went out.
John, the whole Israel/Isreal thing is funny in a head shaking way. Plus, it's been used too much for supposedly witty headlines.
does ANYONE watch that shithead charlie moore?
We missed four pitches. Youk was trotting back to first after the 4th (a foul).
does ANYONE watch that shithead charlie moore?
My mother loves that schmuck.
Bleh.
it's houdini time.
FUCK YOU TEAHEN
Tagging from first, huh? That'll show you.
Let's not ruin that nice, neat line of circles, Jon, eh?
You need to tag the fucking bag.
Now runs.
OK, this time SCORE RUNS.
Wow, Lester just pitched a 4 batters, 2 baserunners 7-pitch inning.
i still can't believe i was at a game that went 0-0 into the 22nd inning.
I find all those terms offensive, and I generally find that they are not used by my peers, in jest or otherwise. Like I said, maybe it's a generational thing?
When was that, Allan?
Really? That was only seven pitches?? Cool.
i still can't believe i was at a game that went 0-0 into the 22nd inning.
When and where was this?
August 23, 1989 in Montreal.
Dodgers won 1-0 in 22.
I looked back at the post for this game, and I can't believe that we have only ONE hit. Arggh.
22-inning box
How long was the game? Did you stay til the end?
I find all those terms offensive, and I generally find that they are not used by my peers, in jest or otherwise. Like I said, maybe it's a generational thing?
I think it's a US thing. Most people in Israel have a very dark sense of humour, and not too much sensitivity. Some would call it directness, some coarseness, some vulgarity. I guess they're all right, in a way.
Did you stay til the end?
How dare you!
Game was only 5:14.
That game sounds totally crazy... 20 hits and no runs, wow. I'm guessing both teams ended up using starters in relief, no?
Yeah, I have experienced some of that Israeli "directness." It can be quite off-putting to American ears and sensitivities. :)
Don't tell me you all haven't heard about our famous Montreal game ad nauseum. We tell the story all the time.
LOL, Allan! It was the Dodgers/Expos, not the Red Sox. You might have gotten too tired (I would have thought it lasted longer than five hours or so) or cold (it was Montreal).
Yeah, I have experienced some of that Israeli "directness." It can be quite off-putting to American ears and sensitivities. :)
Yeah, the Orange County Jewish kids that hosted me and a group from my school 7 years ago did NOT enjoy all our 9/11 jokes. Not to mention the various bombings/holocaust ones. But at the same time, some of them couldn't get enough. It was fascinating to them, that people could actually say things like that. It was very amusing.
"FWIW, I think shiksa is derogatory. Even in jest. Just as I would find kike derogatory."
I was wondering what you would say.
Benjamin, I also meant to say thank you for desisting. I appreciate it.
Canadians often find USians offensive (or refreshing, depending on your POV) for their/our directness and bluntness. You can imagine how Israeli directness would go over here!
I guess that's why the sabra metaphor is appropriate. Just not so sure about the sweet on the inside part!! :)
Amy, baseball was indoors in Montreal. :)
Plus it was August. Montreal is quite warm in August.
Pine.
The Montreal cold reference was a joke---the typical American view of Canada as always icy and freezing. Glad you took the bait. ;)
I guess that's why the sabra metaphor is appropriate. Just not so sure about the sweet on the inside part!! :)
None of the Israelis I've eaten have been sweet. Kind of tangy, usually.
(note: this is supposed to be a cannibalism joke, but if you wanna see it as a sexual one, be my guest)
The game was amazing. There were 3 7th inning stretches, at 7, 14 and 21. In the 17th inning, the Expos thought they won and were jumping around celebrating on the "field" - only to have a hit ruled foul and the teams were called back to continue play.
After about the 15th inning, anyone was still there stayed til the end. Everyone moved up into better seats. :)
ROFL, Ofer!
At the same time, we can't throw out everything that reminds us of our parents/grandparents. Then we wouldn't have cribbage or sucking candies.
When we got out of the game, the Metro was closed for the night and there were special buses shuttling people to their destinations.
We were SO hungry because all the concession stands had closed at the stadium. We had food at our B&B - but when we got back there, our host had locked it all up for the night!
It was such a crazy experience. Allan's favourite in-person game ever.
This game could be a lot worse, but it's yet to get any better.
"The Montreal cold reference was a joke"
Are you sure? :)
"Then we wouldn't have cribbage or sucking candies."
Sucking candies! My mother still says that. "Sucking candy?" Meaning, would you like one. We crack up.
Definitely a joke. I was in Montreal in August. It was rainy, but not cold. I did, however, forget that the Expos had an indoor stadium.
on that tag from first/DP, good thing lyndon was out of the game. he would not have made that throw.
What do people call sucking candies if not sucking candies? I guess sour balls?
No cribbage in my family. Just food and dysfunction.
heh heh heh sour balls ...
Good, get Kotsay off the base paths.
What's that??? A hit? *rubs eyes*
bunt, yes
I think people call them hard candies.
Fuck bunting. Just rope a double.
DO: "nicely done by Nick Green".
It's still a sacrifice.
Hard candies...yeah, I have heard that. But not in my family.
NOW we rope a double.
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