Red Sox - 010 000 010 - 2 7 1Buchholz (8-7-1-2-4, career-high 117 pitches) with a perfect ninth for the save from Ramon Ramirez. It was a hell of a performance from HH -- "gutsy" was the word everyone was using -- since it was known before the game began that Daniel Bard, Hideki Okajima, and Jonathan Papelbon were all unavailable.
Blue Jays - 100 000 000 - 1 7 0
A bases loaded, four-pitch walk to Mike Lowell (batting for David Ortiz) in the eighth -- from fresh-into-the-game Kevin Gregg -- gave the Red Sox the lead. Jeremy Hermida's single scored Ortiz in the second.
Laptop makes his 4th start of the year.
Bullpen move: Fabio Castro up, Scott Atchison down.Scutaro, SS
Pedroia, 2B
Martinez, C
Youkilis, 1B
Drew, RF
Ortiz, DH
Beltre, 3B
Hermida, LF
McDonald, CF
SSS Stuff: Among Jays with more than 10 PA against Buchholz, Lyle Overbay (6-for-14) and Adam Lind (5-for-14, 2 HR) have done well, while Aaron Hill (4-for-17) Vernon Wells (2-for-12) have not.
Adrian Beltre is 6-for-13 against Marcum with a 1.610 OPS, Victor Martinez is 4-for-8 (3 doubles, one HR), Dustin Pedroia is 1-for-13, and David Ortiz is 2-for-14.
Various B-Ref notes on last night's rollercoaster:
Since 1920 (excluding 1940-1951, for which we do not have detailed box scores), this was just the 13th game in which both starting pitchers went no more than 3 innings and allowed at least 7 earned runs ...Last night's announced crowd of 13,847 was the smallest crowd to watch the Red Sox play a game anywhere (non-exhibition) since May 20, 2004 (12,401 in Tampa Bay).
If you add in allowing at least 8 hits, the #2 game between the Rangers and Angels [September 19, 2008] is the only other one in addition to yesterday's that qualifies. ...
The Red Sox are the first team this year to boast five different players with at least 3 hits in the same game ...
Ryan Westmoreland was released from Spaulding Rehabilitation Hospital on Saturday, though he will continue to have physical and occupational therapy there.
Happy 122nd Birthday to Lore Bader!
That crowd there last night was a joke....Do they cut the prices of tickets on game day?
ReplyDeleteCastig and O'brien were doing the game like a golf tournament and you could hear every vendor.
Good thing Allan and Laura were there to boost attendance.
ReplyDeleteI sure wish it was that easy to get tickets to Fenway. Well, not THAT easy. It is nice to have a full crowd. It must be sort of depressing to see all those empty seats.
I may not be here tonight---got to go make a condolence call. Hope the game is a little less "exciting" tonight. GO SOX!
Today in Baseball:
ReplyDelete1909 - For the third day in a row, the White Sox beat the Browns 1-0.
1930 - White Sox first baseman Bud Clancy has no chances in a nine-inning game against the Browns.
1983 - Nolan Ryan strikes out Expos pinch-hitter Brad Mills to break Walter Johnson's 56-year record of 3,508 career strikeouts.
2002 - Derek Lowe no-hits against the Devil Rays.
We were there with two friends so we boosted attendance double.
ReplyDeleteThe Jays don't draw well BUT you have to take into account that it's hockey playoffs. Baseball can only be the 2nd sport here, at best. People don't pay attention to baseball until after the Stanley Cup.
Lore Bader, girls team. Along with last night's pitcher, who counts twice, Dana Eveland.
ReplyDelete"2002 - Derek Lowe no-hits against the Devil Rays." I was at that game, I still have the ticket stub.
ReplyDeleteNot amazing for the Blue Jays, unfortunately. I don't care what the team is. I want more people at the games.
ReplyDeleteIt's amazing. Even people in Toronto, whose team is not even in the playoffs, pay close attention to the playoffs.
ReplyDeletePat Tabler of Jays TV said when Jays pitchers hit their spots last night, there were bloops and broken bats. When they missed, they (the Sox) hit the ball out of the ballpark.
ReplyDeleteGuess how many HR the Sox hit last night?
No, Remy, I don't think they have 13,000 there tonight.
ReplyDeleteHi, everyone.
ReplyDeleteI'm a first time commentator, long time creeper, & I'd like some advice.
My fiancee & I are planning our honeymoon in & around Boston.
We're looking to spend an evening at Fenway. Of course, we need tickets.
What seats, in your opinions, offer the best value? &, which are the safest websites to consult?
i'd see what is actually available first, then check a seat chart for the park.
ReplyDeleteIt's amazing. Even people in Toronto, whose team is not even in the playoffs, pay close attention to the playoffs.
ReplyDeleteToronto has people from everywhere, so there are lots of fans of other teams. Plus being a Leafs fan isn't easy, I'm sure a lot of people jumped ship.
But yes, it's amazing how hockey is here. Maybe it's like how baseball was in the US in the 1940s or 50s.
Everyone curses the name of StubHub, Nathan, but when I went to Boston two summers ago, I got CF seats at what I thought was a reasonable markup on there. Seats were just OK, but it was so incredible being there (I have only been a few times.)
ReplyDeletewells is seriously pissing me off.
ReplyDeleteWhen you only get to be at Fenway once in a while, you can't afford to boycott StubHub and Ace Tix. I would do the same thing.
ReplyDeleteL, the thing I notice about the Stanley Cup playoffs is how much I want to watch the games even when it's not a Bruins series, so it's no surprise that hockey fans everywhere will watch the playoffs even if their team isn't in it.
ReplyDeleteAs for tonight, it's summer, even if it's rainy and 44 degrees out.
Ive only used it once, to get tickets to the Cubs at home.
ReplyDeleteSo I have a question. Why does anyone (outside of Blue Jays management and ownership) care that the team has poor attendance? Why are people bothered by the low turnout?
ReplyDeleteNot being sarcastic, truly curious.
Why do people care if a movie cost too much to make, or didn't make its budget back? It doesn't affect your enjoyment of the movie.
ReplyDeleteBut I think people find it to be a selling point if an entertainment enterprise is financially successful, and a detriment if it's not. People speculate about the team moving. People note when stadiums are empty at Florida MLB games. Schadenfreude, I guess.
Thanks for your help.
ReplyDeleteredsock: I've compared several websites, & it seems the best prices (compared to the face value) are in Right Field Box 86.
Zenslinger: Yeah, I've listened to enough games on WEEI that the first name that came to mind when I started searching was STUBHUB! There is no gentle setting on the brainwash machine.
L-girl: Stubhub it is. The other websites are comparably (over)priced.
I'm hoping the vaunted Fenway atmosphere will impress the fiancee.
Why do people care if a movie cost too much to make, or didn't make its budget back? It doesn't affect your enjoyment of the movie.
ReplyDeleteGood example, something else I never, ever understand. When I hear people talking about which movie grossed the highest over the weekend, I'm baffled as to why they care. (Assuming they are not investors, just consumers.)
not sure where that RF box is, but in section 3-5 of the grandstand you are very deep in the RF bowl.
ReplyDeleteNathan, just to be clear, I've never used any of those services. I've bought tickets on the street years ago, but have not used StubHub yet at all. Good luck, I hope you get good seats at a good price. More importantly, I hope your partner loves Fenway.
ReplyDeleteman this ump is fucked. K on drew might have been high by the rule book!!! let alone the anything above the belt is a ball "rule".
ReplyDeleteI don't know about others but I like to see full stadiums to show that baseball is alive and well and is popular, and I don't like to see an image of baseball being unpopular someplace, and since we don't get live ratings numbers during the games to see how many are watching on TV, stadium attendance is all we have.
ReplyDeleteredsock: it's really a numbers game. Because I'm working on a budget, the most I can afford per ticket is about $80. Looks like the monster's out of the question.
ReplyDeletel-girl: I'm a little nervous planning a trip to Boston without buying tickets in advance. I'd like to say I'm adventurous enough to buy tickets on the street, but I'm not.
Looks like we should travel to Toronto. There are seats-a-plenty at the ol' Skydome.
ReplyDeleteHaving 2 outs helped papi score there.
ReplyDeleteI guess Papi was a RISP!
ReplyDeleteall with 2 outs!
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the sox often release good tix a few hours before the game, but that is probably too much of a gamble.
Buying on the street is also not worth the stress you experience in the moment. The atmosphere outside of Fenway is not relaxed, and you'll be in a city you don't know well. Not worth it. Also, it's possible these days that a ticket will have been scanned already.
ReplyDeleteI got my $40 (?) tickets by FedEx promptly and was happy.
Bases loaded, one out for Phil Hughes.
ReplyDeleteNathan,
ReplyDeleteTake a look at this website:
preciseseating.com It has info on every seat.
We try to get up to Boston once a summer and I usually try to consult something like this before getting tix. If I'm going to spend that much for seats, I want to make sure I can see the whole field.
I vote for the Monster Seats if you really want to impress her.
anyone know about the accepted resale area? sort of team-supervised "scalping" at face value?
ReplyDeleteGood point, Zenslinger, my flat Canadian prairies accent would immediately give me away as a rube.
ReplyDeleteNathan, I wouldn't plan a trip to Boston without tix in advance either. No way.
ReplyDeleteTickets on the street is a looong time ago, another lifetime.
monster seats cost about twice his limit per seat, i think.
ReplyDeleteOh you're Canadian, nice. Welcome to the thread. (Separate from being Cdn.)
ReplyDeleteHughes walked one in, then got a double play.
ReplyDeleteNow that's a zippy OTT.
ReplyDeleteAllan, it's called the Scalp Free Zone. There are lots of threads on SoSH about it.
ReplyDeleteRe ticket sales and attendance, I guess I'm so used to liking what's not popular and not caring about most things that are popular (because they are not to my tastes, not because I purposely dislike popular things), that I don't care if baseball is popular relative to other sports, either. As long as they're playing, I'm good.
ReplyDeleteNathan probably isn't on SoSH so if anyone knows about the Scalp Free Zone, please blab.
ReplyDeleteprob still not an option he'd want to leave to that afternoon/evening
ReplyDeleteDave O'B just called the first pitch to Yook "the 2-2 ..."
ReplyDeleteOakland came back vs. the Rays with 3-run HR. Same inning and they have bases loaded, one out. Rays still up 4-3.
ReplyDeleteYikes. Yep, Monster Seats are out of your price range. I was on StubHub yesterday looking for Red Sox/Dodgers tix (we may be up for that game). There were some decent bleacher seats for around $80.
ReplyDeleteHere in and out tonight. Back from the shiva call.
ReplyDeleteNathan, congratulations! On going to Fenway AND getting married (not necessarily in that order).
Laura, I find it depressing to go to an event that is poorly attended. There is no energy in the room---whether it's a play, a game, or a restaurant. Movies don't bother me since you don't really feed off crowd energy in a movie, except for comedies which I rarely see anyway. But I like the buzz a crowd brings to other events. Hope that answers the question you asked about why people care about ticket sales.
Thanks, Amy. This applies to an event whether you're there or not? Like watching a game on TV?
ReplyDeleteNathan - in my experience the best 'value' seats are the high-up seats in the infield grandstand, the ones that go for around $45-55 face value. The view is pretty good from that section, as is the atmosphere. The right-field grandstand seats and the bleacher seats are awful IMO and while they're a little cheaper a little extra is worth it.
ReplyDeleteThe Left Field grandstand seats aren't that bad either, and I think those go for ~40.
Laura, I find it depressing to go to an event that is poorly attended.
ReplyDeleteSame.
I don't mind it as much if I am watching a game on TV since I usually don't notice the empty seats until a ball is hit somewhere and the camera reveals the empty seats. Then I think, wow, what a shame. But since watching at home does not give me a crowd buzz anyway, it doesn't interfere much with my enjoyment of the game. I do feel sorry for the home team players, however, who have no fans there for them.
ReplyDeleteIt can impact enjoyment of a game on TV too, though. If a game has a great atmosphere I'm more inclined to stick with watching it the whole way through.
ReplyDeleteHmm, I think threading gives me a little bit of that crowd buzz! That sense that other people are also excited or pissed off (since I can't share those feelings with you know who).
ReplyDeleteA good crowd buzz is good, but I don't mind a small, quiet crowd either. Less annoyances and distractions, more concentration on the game.
ReplyDeleteOn TV, I would never care. But I'm obviously in the minority there (what else is new).
Is showing the pitch count in the score-ticker a new thing on NESN? I like it
ReplyDeleteYook popping off
ReplyDeleteYouk is really working hard on that whiny reputation. haha
ReplyDeleteThat was a pretty crap call though
Sure is a quiet game after last night's drama.
ReplyDeletePlease score.
ReplyDeleteFiery double!
ReplyDeleteThere we go Drew
ReplyDeleteSo I have to ask... is "Fortier" guy heckling "Elvin" tonight?
ReplyDeletecan't tell. we have the tv muted and sox radio on, but kind of low.
ReplyDeletewho is "elvin"?
ReplyDelete(he was also cleverly calling pedroia "diarreha" for awhile)
the powerful Hermeida-McDonald 8-9 should take care of this
ReplyDeleteElvin = #11
ReplyDelete(he was also cleverly calling pedroia "diarreha" for awhile)
ReplyDeleteSounds like the brain surgeon behind me the one time I went to the Toilet who was so impressed with herself for figuring out that Merloni rhymed with bologna.
Suck
ReplyDeleteLooks like both teams used all their hits yesterday.
ReplyDeleteJD DREW IS SO GOOD AT DEFENSE.
ReplyDeleteLast night at this time the sox and jays were in the third.
ReplyDelete"JD DREW IS SO GOOD AT DEFENSE."
ReplyDeleteHow is that true? He didn't dive for the ball (or do a fancy jump throw).
How is that true? He didn't dive for the ball (or do a fancy jump throw).
ReplyDeleteHahahahaha :p
I love blowing people's minds by talking about how JD Drew is the best defensive outfielder in my time watching the Red Sox, and people go bwaaa???
He doesn't have to make spectacular plays because he takes the perfect route to the ball every. single. time
Last night at this time the sox and jays were in the third.
ReplyDeleteIt was interminable. I was shocked to hear that Jays fan say he "perceived magic". To me it felt like quicksand.
Please do not squander.
ReplyDeletefor those who care, looks like the local bouncyball team is gonna become the 2nd Boston team to advance to the next round of the playoffs in two nights.
ReplyDeletenow let's go yook
time for mr. rbi.
ReplyDeletewell, that moves the runner up...
ReplyDeletecome on JD. you my boy.
light my (on) fire.
ReplyDeleteFinally sat down and got static on NESN. Took me 10 minutes to figure out that they'd changed the channel lineup. (good thing I work in TV; I'm so on top of these things.)
ReplyDeleteCongrats, Nathan. I wouldn't worry 'bout missing on Monster seats. In the few times I've gone in the last few years, I've been quite happy with the infield grandstand seats that Joe Grav mentions.
Jere (who would sure have a legalized scalper rant about Stub Hub and the like) has always been good about pointing out that tix do come up for sale on the redsox.com site from time to time. Year before last I got 2 Sox/Yankees tickets at face value on the site a few weeks in advance. You'll be hard pressed to find 2 right next to each other (mine were 3 seats apart in two adjoining rows).
I'm sure it felt interminable.
ReplyDeleteAt least you got the win after sitting through a game like that.
groove one and giveth us a 3-run dong.
ReplyDeletea J.D.ong
ReplyDeleteor a walk
ReplyDeleteI feel bad for Ortiz, but a glad to see the DOCTOR!!
ReplyDeleteshit. feel bad for flo.
ReplyDeletedr. d!
Yes indeed Mrs GotRibe. Our personal track record in Toronto sucks so it was a nice change.
ReplyDeleteOrtiz gets the bad news. haha
ReplyDeletejoe - was that you or did don say it?
ReplyDeleteTalk about interminable games. I went to the 3:40 minute laugher against the O's last Friday.
ReplyDeleteMy friend kept saying, "I love minor league baseball"
unintentional BBI??? hahahaha
ReplyDeleteHa ha
ReplyDeletenice move, cito!
ReplyDeleteDoctor prescribes, "Walk it off!"
ReplyDelete5 balls in a row...
ReplyDeleteDoctor prescribes, "Walk it off!"
ReplyDelete:>)
At least we got one...
ReplyDeleteThanks for all your help. I just purchased a pair of tickets to see the Sox play the Indians at Fenway! I can barely type, my hands are quivering with excitement.
ReplyDeleteL-girl & Amy: Yep. I'm Canadian. Thanks for the warm welcome.
Mrs.: Thanks for the preciseseating tip.
Joe & Nick: We'll be sitting in the Infield Grandstands. I sincerely appreciate your advice.
I still don't trust HH.
ReplyDeleteSIT!
ReplyDeletenasteeee
ReplyDeleteMFY are down 4-2 in the 7th.
ReplyDeleteThat's great Nathan. Fenway is an amazing place. Try to take the tour. I think it's about $10 or so. Well worth it.
ReplyDeleteAs of now, HH looks like our best pitcher.
ReplyDeletetour is worth it at twice the price. do it in the morning of your game, if possible.
ReplyDeleteNever saw preciseseating before. thanks.
ReplyDeletegot out of that--excellent!
I like the idea of the Yankees losing to the Orioles. I'm OK w/ that.
He gained a little trust right there.
ReplyDeleteFuck yes.
N, do you know where you're staying in Boston? We have a tip if you need. Amazing location - right near Fenway - and affordable. Let me know if you need.
ReplyDeletejays have 7-8-9 hitters in the 9th.
ReplyDeleteNathan, have you ever been to Boston? If you want some tips on what else to see or do, feel free to ask.
ReplyDeleteIt says something about the Jays that Alex Gonzalez isn't in the 7-8-9 slots.
ReplyDeletemicrowave seems to have turned back into a pumpkin
ReplyDeletelooks like ramram in the 9th
ReplyDeleteI really want to go to Fenway this year. Between getting a "new" car, dentist bills and the usual, I haven't been able to budget buying tickets. I was sorely tempted by the 3packs of SRO tickets. 2 pairs/3 games for $120 is pretty sweet, but with all the ancillary costs of 3 trips to boston....
ReplyDeleteEmma and I will be going to see the Pittsfield Colonials for $1 tickets at their exhibition opener next month. :-) Now that they're not the Pittsfield American Defenders in jingoistic camo glory I'm game to go. Check out the new version of the American Defenders thankfully not in Pittsfield.
last night, there was a very homemade banner above the sox pen for the ramirez fan club. i wonder if they are there tonight...
ReplyDeleteRamram. Uh oh.
ReplyDeleteThe camera moves here have been very trupey. They don't get me excited anymore (well, twinges underneath, but I figure they're trying to get me first).
ReplyDeleteyou can't uh oh every pitcher in the 9th!
ReplyDeleteit's not bot...
Nick, that's cool re minor leagues. (I haven't seen the link yet, I can just imagine.) Our finances haven't permitted much baseball this season either. I wanted to see the Sox in Detroit again - I loved that 2 years ago - but we couldn't do it.
ReplyDeleteI had to choose between Shakespeare during the All-Star Break and Sox in Detroit. (Couldn't afford either so I made myself pick one.) We have baseball every night but no theatre anymore. Had to go with Stratford.
damn! that flew!
ReplyDeleteback to ramram!!!
ReplyDeleteThe water is Muddy!!!
Way to go Ramram.
ReplyDeletewhat a good fucking game!
ReplyDeleteThat was real baseball.
dirtay!
ReplyDeleteOh yuck. I heard about those cami unis but I didn't know which team it was. Talk about blending war and entertainment.
ReplyDeleteDIRTY! Yay HH and Ram-squared.
i think every one of our last 6 wins has been by 1 run.
ReplyDeleteGreat to win a low-scoring game!
ReplyDeleteI don't know why letting the bat fly isn't an out.
ReplyDeletewe are now tied for 3rd!
ReplyDeletemovin' on up .... to a deee-lux apt. atop the AL east!
Missed most of the game, but looks like a much-needed good outing from HH. and RR kept it up. sweet.
ReplyDeleteDirty water!
ReplyDeleteGood for HH---eight innings! When was the last time one of our pitchers did that??
Every fall I oversee the filming of 10 high school performances of Shakespeare plays at Shakespeare & Co. up in Lenox. That's my theater experience for most of the year.
ReplyDeleteDo you see 1 play, more than one? Which one(s)?
L-girl: I have a hotel booked (I think it's called Doubletree), but what do you recommend.
ReplyDeleteAmy: Please do send as much advice as you can. It's my first trip to Beantown. Or the Ol' Towne. Or the eternal Tea Party.
Oh, I love that dirty water.
We went for the first time last year during the ASB, and I decided we have to go every year. Stratford is less than 2 hours from where we live, and some folks who read my blog own a B&B there. And now we are all friends.
ReplyDeleteLast year we saw J Caesar and Cyrano.
This year it's The Tempest (Christopher Plummer is Prospero) and As You Like It.
I love theatre and used to be really into it, went very often. So being so close to a world-class Shakespeare festival is great.
Nathan, check out The Buckminster online. It's right near Fenway - I mean right near - and an amazing bargain. It's a historic old hotel, renovated. Pretty basic, nothing posh, but nice clean rooms at half of what you'd think they'd cost, and you can see the Green Monster from your window.
ReplyDeleteAlso, a JoS reader named JohnGoldfine is a wealth of info about things to do and see in Boston. He and Amy both made great suggestions for our last trip.
Hotel Buckminster, plus check for it on the discount sites.
Nick, I just realized your comment re theatre said "oversee" not just "see". That's very cool! I would love to hang around a set for that.
ReplyDeleteI gotta go to bed, big day tomorrow.
Dirty water, everyone! Nice to see you all tonight.
Thanks, L-girl. I'll have to track down JohnGoldfine.
ReplyDeleteNathan, if you friend me on FB, we can email about things in Boston. Join the JOS gamethreaders group on FB and you will see me there. Too tired tonight to type much, but I am happy to be of assistance!
ReplyDeleteMFY - 001 100 002
ReplyDeleteBAL - 010 003 01X
A-Rod makes the final out.
Mrs.GotRibe, are you a William & Mary alum?
ReplyDelete2-1? Wow! That's a score I like.
ReplyDeleteA-Rod makes the final out.
ReplyDeleteOn the first pitch with the tying run at third!
Complete 1-run game frm Clay?
ReplyDeleteFinally - a starter with a top-notch showing.
SoSock said...
ReplyDeleteComplete 1-run game frm Clay?
Finally - a starter with a top-notch showing.
Wake had one on the weekend...
Clay went 8. RamRam had the 9th.
ReplyDeleteNo CG yet this year.
Chief--Yes I am a W&M grad. Did the Griffon give it away? Did you go to W&M?
ReplyDeleteYup, I graduated in '92. I had a friend who wore the Indian costume at football games. Not sad to see it go, but a griffon? Context please? Seems like a reach.
ReplyDeleteI graduated in '83. Mr. Ribe and I were hoping for the Wren. But, the Griffon looks pretty good in person. We saw it at a baseball game and the spring football game. Student involvement has really picked up this year with the formation of the Tribal Fever.
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