I don't think it's a surprise that they put this in effect, or the fact they announced it. It's probably more of a PR move just because, you know, the Red Sox took such a beating at the end of the year.Tampa Bay manager Joe Maddon countered Valentine's annoucement yesterday by saying that members of his team are free to enjoy a beer after a game if they want.
I think it's more of a PR thing. We used to tell the guys, "You have certain privileges, don't abuse the privileges or they'll be taken away." And it wasn't specifically in one area. There were many areas you talk about. You look back at this, these are guys that earned my implicit trust. You know, guys that we had won World Series with. So I probably felt different about it than a new guy coming in. And he certainly has the right to do what he wants because he is new, and that's why you get different people.
[Was this the right move?]
Again, I think it was a PR move. I think if a guy wants a beer, he can probably get one. You know, it's kind of the old rule ... If your coach in football says no hard liquor on the plane -- I mean, you serve beer and wine -- somebody's going to sneak liquor on the plane. If you furnish a little bit, it almost keeps it to a minimum.
We're not the Boston Red Sox. I've said it a hundred times. For me at the end of the day, I'd much prefer our players making good decisions, and if you're of legal age, and the game is over, and you've sweated and lost a bunch of pounds and you want to sit down and have a beer, I see nothing wrong with that.Last October, Maddon said:
To say a grown-up can't have a beer after a game? Give me a break. That is, I'm going to use the word, "asinine," because it is. Let's bring the Volstead Act back, OK. Let's go right back to prohibition and start legislating everything all over again. All that stuff pretty much annoys me, as you can tell.Also: Josh Beckett will not apologize for being distracted in September because his wife was due to give birth.
David Ortiz is tired of the Boston media "always talking trash".
I don't like the idea of batting Jacoby Ellsbury third because (a) his power surge has been for only one season, (b) there is not a decent alternative at the top of the order, and (c) I want Adrian Gonzalez batting in the first inning of every game (and Valentine is unlikely to bat him first or second).
I was so pissed about that. To me, the answer to "will there be ______ in your clubhouse?" is "none of your fucking business, next question."
ReplyDeleteI don't know what's worse, that the media convinced the entire world that the Red Sox lost because of beer, or that they convinced an entire beer-drinking world that beer is bad in the first place.
the media convinced the entire world that the Red Sox lost because of beer,
ReplyDeletePeople need simple answers to complex questions.
What happened in September? Beer. ... Or beer and chicken.
But Tito's take is newsworthy. And I tend to agree with him. And any time a manager references the Volstead Act is cool! ... Whatever. I simply assume that 95% of everyone is a fucking idiot and move on.
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Announcement:
I have not banned beer in game threads.
SoSHer The_Powa_of_Seiji_Ozawa:
ReplyDelete"I remember reading that when Manny first arrived in Boston and was DHing most of the time, he would study in-game videotape in between his at bats. Is it too much to ask that our players behave a little more like Manny Ramirez?"
Valentine responds.
ReplyDeleteI'm more concerned with pitchers half-assing it through their workouts than having a beer during a game in which they are absolutely not going to pitch.
Catus to announce retirement Thursday.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2012/02/varitek_to_anno.html
Joe Girardi, who banned ice cream from the Yankees clubhouse, supports Valentine:
ReplyDelete"You have to be careful in this day and age. You don’t want people drinking and driving. You don’t mind a guy having a beer, but when you are home you are going to get in a car and drive home. I think it’s a pretty good policy."
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If that is the case, shouldn't they ban beer from all ballparks? It's much more likely a fan will have too many and drive home drunk than a player.
Follow-up from Tito:
ReplyDelete"I need to be more careful when speaking about the Red Sox. I didn't mean anything derogatory about the team or Bobby when I said that. It was just an issue that's been played out so publicly. I thought I was consistent in what I said all day yesterday but I need to be more careful."