Red Sox - 000 001 110 - 3 10 0Boston rallied to take a 3-2 lead in the eighth, but they blew a chance to add to that slim advantage when Alex Cora grounded into an inning-ending double play with the bases loaded.
Orioles - 000 200 04x - 6 9 0
Hideki Okajima relieved Wakefield (7-5-2-4-3, 109) in the bottom of the inning. He struggled from his first pitch, allowing three straight singles. He got two outs on a sac fly (which tied the game 3-3) and a force play. But he walked Ramon Hernandez to reload the bases. Jeemer then fell behind Adam Jones 3-1 and came in with a fat fastball -- that Jones drilled to deep left for a three-run double.
Down to their last out in the ninth against George Sherrill, Julio Lugo and Kevin Youkilis both walked to bring up Manny as the potential tying run. Ramirez had hit home run #502 in the sixth, but this time, he lifted a routine fly to Nick Markakis in right-center.
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Tim Wakefield (4.70, 91 ERA+) / Jeremy Guthrie (3.64, 115 ERA+)
This is Wakefield's third start of this 10-game road trip. ... After a dismal 1-5 start, the possibility of finishing up 5-5 is pretty attractive.
Runs Hits W/LManny:
0523 at Oak 3 6 L 3-8
0524 at Oak 0 1 L 0-3
0525 at Oak 3 7 L 3-6
0526 at Sea 5 9 W 5-3
0527 at Sea 3 7 L 3-4
0528 at Sea 0 2 L 0-1
0530 at Bal 5 10 W 5-2 (13)
0531 at Bal 6 9 W 6-3
0601 at Bal 9 16 W 9-4
0602 at Bal ?
We're going to click. Sometimes we'll be cold. That's part of the game.More on MBM from Tomase and Bradford.
Baltimore has scored a total of eight runs in Guthrie's six losses.
Tampa is off tonight before starting a three-game series at Fenway tomorrow. The Yankees are still in Minnesota (7 PM).
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Lugo, SS
Youkilis, 1B
Ramirez, DH
Lowell, 3B
Drew, RF
Crisp, CF
Cora, 2B
Cash, C
Roberts, 2B
Markakis, RF
Mora, 3B
Huff, DH
Millar, 1B
Scott, LF
Hernandez, C
Jones, CF
Bynum, SS
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Lugo #2? Why not Drew? Or Yook? Or move everyone up a spot?
I guess Tito doesn't want all the dreck at the bottom of the order.
i can't wait for tomorrow night...
pedro returns for the mets, and the cunt makes his debut for the chokers.
I like the idea of keeping the speed together, so we can pull off double and triple steals.
Where's Pede?
Fragging Francona, lets sit the normal 2b for einstein, even though he is 5 for 9 vs Guthrie. If you are gonna play Cora, put him in for Lugo who oh, I don't know is 0 for 7 versus Guthrie.
I expected Crisp to play since defense will be huge tonight, but fragging Lugo?
Why does Tito so often use Wakefield's starts to give key players a rest? The line-up is already weaker with the Cash-for-Tek switch, and now Ortiz is replaced by Crisp. So you pick tonght to put Cora's limp bat in for Pedroia? Christ, the guy just lost a 1-0 complete game...give him a chance!
Guess which player has made more outs than anyone else in all of baseball?
...
...
Dustin Pedroia -- 192.
Also: FY has not missed a game all season. Give the guy some extra rest before the Tampa series.
Also Also: Jesus Christ, it's not Game 7 of the World Series. It's the fucking Orioles for fuck's sake.
Heidi Watney just clearly burped while talking to Gordon Eades, and didn't even say excuse me...
redsock said...
Guess which player has made more outs than anyone else in all of baseball?
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Dustin Pedroia -- 192.
He also has more AB's than anyone....I agree though if we can't win with these guys they shouldn't even be on the team..
Isn't crazy that Ellsbury's competion for rookie of the year right now is David Murphy.....
NESN at Chez L-Sock!
The bench has got to play sometime, y'know.
good evenin'
hi joe
i'm so glad to be home for the game tonight. yesterday i was at a meeting (called in "sick" from work), and tomw i'm in ottawa.
Julio Lugo at #2: Brilliant!
Whatcha doin in attawah?
everything in to yook.
I'll take it.
Going up for the vote!!! Tomorrow the House of Commons will vote on - AND PASS - the motion to allow Iraq War resisters to stay in Canada.
It's what I've been working on for the past year. The Campaign has been going on for 4 years.
Best of luck!!!
I hadn't read your blog in the last few days, so now I am up to date. I'll call the Canadian embassy tonight.
Thank you!! Unless something totally bizarre happens, it will pass. All three opposition parties are united on this issue - which is VERY rare.
Wow, thanks, that's awesome.
It's very exciting. Many people feel it's historic.
Awesome. I've always been fascinated with parliamentary systems and think that on the whole they have a lot of advantages. Not that I want to get into a long discussion of governmental theory, but yeah.. good stuff.
Darn, I thought Lowell had a chance to rip that one to the wall off the bat...
"the red sox strand a pair" /don
haha. Did anyone ever fully post the DO drinking game>?
It's all I can think about right now, so I'm glad to have baseball to take my mind off it!
We had a huge strategy meeting yesterday. After the vote, we will have to get the Government to implement it. It's a non-binding resolution... but they're a minority Govt. They're supposed to do what Parliament (i.e. the people) want.
OK, I will try to stop now!!
The drinking game! I almost forgot about that. We used to pick a few phrases to drink on.
We should start that up again.
it's okay, it's a good thing to be excited about... but yes, let's enjoy the game.
on a side note, my dad bought a Bose radio with his tax rebate check (thanks Mr. President for this useful addition to our lives) and we hooked it up to the TV yesterday... it sounds so sick. It's like having surround sound.
9:00 two of our guys are on a news/talk show here, we have to remember to tape it.
OK, baseball, baseball.
"equidistant" -- drink!
nyy have 2 in the top 1 - slappy hit a dong
Re Bose, are those as great as they say?
I've been really bad at keeping up with newspapers the last week or so, and I'm really good at avoiding TV news... so do you know if the issue is getting much play at all in American media?
I'll stop distracting you after this one question. :)
Is Roberts throwing down a challenge to LBJ?
They aren't mind-blowingly amazing like the commercial would have you believe, but they are quite awesome.
You need to turn it up really, really, really high for music to sound like stereo quality. On low/medium volume it's still pretty solid, though.
and hooked up to a TV, it sounds very good. There's a richness to the sound that you don't get out of the TV speakers.
There was a good story on CNN, and we've had good lengthy pieces in WaPo and the NYTimes Magazine. And this vote should get some attention!
Also lots of local stories in the various towns where the resisters are from.
So not a ton of media, but not nothing.
MORA dead!
...
chat about whatever -- except football!
WOW
Yeah DP! My fave kind of dp, strike em throw em.
We've had tons of media in Europe, Japan, NZ, Australia. THe rest of the world knows a lot more about this than the US does.
I like the way you think :D
I mean, I don't hate football...but the 24-7-365 nature of it makes me nauseous
Nice doubleplay.
We've had tons of media in Europe, Japan, NZ, Australia. THe rest of the world knows a lot more about this than the US does.
Stunning.
Actually, it is pretty surprising that the major right wing echo chamber hasn't played up the "America-hating traitors" angle
Bose, that sounds good. Must be great for TV or DVDs.
oh, don. i thought DO was ortiz and was thinking 'wait, we can't play that tonight.' too bad i'm stuck with masn on mlb.tv. (actually, of all the away feeds, i think masn is one of the least annoying.)
I'm not surprised that CNN, MSNBC and the networks have ignored it, since it's the kind of topic they'd be really sensitive about covering.
DREWW
Maybe they have, I don't know. They do go in for Canada-bashing every once in a while, so maybe they'll pick it up.
DJ Werd with a hit.
The right wing in this country hates it too, they're vehemently opposed to allowing them to stay.
TOO BAD!!
History seems to be a long string of saying "too bad!" to reactionary righties.
Fucking sac bunts. How many pitchers does this lineup have to have?
fall in... fall in...
damnit, solid grab scott
Ben, I usually don't care what announcer team I get, but for me MASN is the worst. Palmer and Thorne are just horrible, IMO.
Thorne is pretty bad. Great for hockey. Bad for baseball.
Let's go, $
History seems to be a long string of saying "too bad!" to reactionary righties.
That's one way to see it. It's also a series of reactionary righties turning back decades of progress with a flick of the wrist.
maybe in the short term, L, but not in the long-term.
"The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice." -MLK
i don't think the US media wants to give this any media attention at all.
the number of US troops having gone AWOL from Iraq could be as high as 25,000!
It's one of my favourite quotes, but I only wish it were true. There is no moral universe. There's only history, and it has no theme, no morality.
Hmm. Just googled the phrase and it turns out MLK was quoting a 19th cty. Rev. named Theodore Parker.
Learn something new every day...
MLK Jr. said the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice. Of course, he said that less than a week before they shot him.
maybe in the short term, L, but not in the long-term.
That only works if you only look at developed countries. For the rest of the world, progress has not been so clear. It's start and stop, hit and miss.
I don't think it's a march of anti-progress, but I don't think you can make a case for the inevitability of progress, either.
Damn it. GET OUT OF MY HEAD.
The original from Parker is not nearly as elegant. It's longer and more convoluted. MLK edited it with greatly improved results.
PS Never argue about King with me. I know a lot about him. :)
King's murder wouldn't change his belief in that. That's what the long arc means, yes?
TOAST.
Wakey bailed out again.
don
"the throw from drew is outstanding"
glug.
Drew being Manny.
That only works if you only look at developed countries. For the rest of the world, progress has not been so clear. It's start and stop, hit and miss.
I agree, but you have to start somewhere. Look at the status of women and African-Americans even as recently as 50 years ago (let alone 150-200 years ago) in the US, supposedly the epitome of the industrialized, developed world.
Things have changed for the better. Not everywhere, but at least in some places. It's a start.
Just saying getting shot might be one of those flick-of-the-wrists setbacks.
time to match roberts in the great SB race
Interesting report from the Boston Globe today - there is one retail product that is very profitable right now, even in these down times..........
....bicycles.
:) Hey, that's some encouraging news.
Lugo batting 2nd: terrible
Phil, yes indeed.
Joe, there's been huge, enormous progress. I will never say otherwise.
My point, tho, is that progress is not inevitable or a constant or even something we can count on seeing more of in our lifetimes. It is the result of people's movements and a lot of luck. Both can be crushed and are crushed on a regular basis.
I don't think there is any moral inevitability to anything.
Lugo can GIDP from any spot in the order!!!
great call by the ump thurr.
Well, I don't believe in 'moral inevitability,' but I believe that to be the cousin of people becoming more enlightened and educated and evolved.
...which I do think happens naturally over time.
Even the dumbest, most inbred hick knows a lot more about scientific truths than, for instance, the 14th century Catholic Church.
NYY: 20
MIN: 01
I would tend to agree with that. (Although with the re-emergence of "creationism", I'm not sure.)
I think the expression "the moral universe" means that there is some kind of inevitability. It implies an inherent progress.
I think that's wishful thinking.
Even the dumbest, most inbred hick knows a lot more about scientific truths than, for instance, the 14th century Catholic Church.
Several people who read my blog very actively follow the anti-science people - anti-evolution, anti-sex-education, etc. They make a very good case for their ascendancy. They've taken over whole school boards, as I'm sure you know.
Holy shit, what's going on?
kirk is upset
beam me up, scotty, i don't like the ump down here
I think 'inevitable' and 'natural' are two different things, but they both yield the same result. I look at 'natural progress' as a sort of humanistic response to the religious man's 'fate.'
Several people who read my blog very actively follow the anti-science people - anti-evolution, anti-sex-education, etc. They make a very good case for their ascendancy. They've taken over whole school boards, as I'm sure you know.
But even those people aren't as bad as the conservatives of the 14th or 15th centuries. I don't think most of them think the sun revolves around the earth, for instance.
kirk must have a cab waiting to take him to a 8 PM dinner date
I look at 'natural progress' as a sort of humanistic response to the religious man's 'fate.'
Exactly. And I reject both. I regard all of it as wishful thinking - some grounded in a big daddy in the sky, some grounded in something else, all just what we hope and wish would be there.
What was Trembley arguing?
Doesn't make me right - I will never claim that much. It's just what I believe.
Captain Kirk, to umpire (pointing at Wake): "THEY DON'T NEED ANY HELP!!!"
But even those people aren't as bad as the conservatives of the 14th or 15th centuries. I don't think most of them think the sun revolves around the earth, for instance.
If their church wanted them to think that, they probably would.
But I'm not necessarily saying those types are ascendant. I don't know enough about it. I'm only referring to friends/readers of mine who think so.
I see I missed a pretty good discussion so far, as well. I was busy out on a bike ride. 14 miles. Perfect evening for it.
502, anyone?
13 of wake's last 14 pitches = strikes.
And while the antiscience people certainly get attention by shouting the loudest, they've only taken over a few school boards. Granted, that's a few too many - but most Americans are very moderate about their sense of morality and religious practice, and the views of the religious right - no matter how disturbing - are not representative of everyone.
The religious right movement is already slowing down in America. Humorously enough, having theocrats in office has helped kill religion in the US, which is exactly why many of the more religious foudners wanted to keep church and state separate.
Go figure!
seemed like kirk was tossed for yakking from the dugout on balls and strikes. then he came out to draw in the sand.
he ain't no weaver! on so many levels.
not that I think religion is an altogether bad thing. But the kind practiced by the far right is.
If their church wanted them to think that, they probably would.
But their church doesn't tell them to think that. That's the point. It's not perfect, but it's bettah.
not on fire.
Joe, I can't believe you could say "they've only taken over a few school boards". Honestly I cannot believe you would downplay their huge and considerable influence on so many state governments.
Optimism is good, but not when it means wearing blinders. They've set back women's rights in the US by decades. Not for women in Massachusetts, but for millions of women all over the US.
i agree with you L, trust me. I find what the far right is doing to be repugnant. But it's not as widespread as the media - or the movement itself - would have you believe.
But their church doesn't tell them to think that. That's the point. It's not perfect, but it's bettah.
It's different. They tell them different things. The earth and sun are not issues. But two men or two women loving each other is. How to prevent the spread of AIDS is. How to stop women from forced pregnancies is.
Their influence is enormous and very destructive.
A significant percentage of Americans tell pollsters they believe the earth revolves around the sun. (More than 15%.)
Amy should be here for this!
and even the worst setbacks haven't brought us back to, for instance, the '50s, which in the grand scheme of things was a very short time ago.
A significant percentage of Americans tell pollsters they believe the earth revolves around the sun. (More than 15%.)
I've said that myself by accident. I'd attribute 5% of that to slips of the tongue/failure to think things out. Then I'd attribute another 6-7% to people who are just so very ignorant that they really have no idea what the question is about.
But you're only looking at particular issues and only the US.
I'd attribute 5% of that to slips of the tongue/failure to think things out.
You. Are. Dreaming.
A significant percentage of Americans tell pollsters they believe the earth revolves around the sun. (More than 15%.)
Orsillo thinks the sun goes between the moon and earth!
I know, L.
I'm not familiar with the situation everywhere in the world. I'm familiar with the situation in the US. I live it and I study it.
I do know that at least in some parts of the world, there has been progress. Which means that, overall, progress has been made.
Do we have a long way to go? Fuck yeah. That's one of the reasons why I wake up every morning.
That, and love of JoS game threads.
But it's not as widespread as the media - or the movement itself - would have you believe.
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Joe, I think EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE.
You. Are. Dreaming.
Ehhh... maybe.
I've been watching their influence grow since 1980. I've been fighting their destruction since then.
Or I was until I gave up and left.
If you think the media exaggerates their influence, you are being fooled.
Well, you're entitled to that opinion, especially since you aren't following the American media on a daily basis.
I can tell you that the American mainstream media can't get enough of the "Culture War." They love it. It's like covering a real war, except without all of those pesky foreigners.
Ah well. Baseball.
I've been watching their influence grow since 1980. I've been fighting their destruction since then.
I've seen it in my own life, too.
But I also see their influence on the wane since 2004.
They are still way more powerful than they should be, and have a ton of adherents, but 'mainstream' America rejects their hateful ideology.
but 'mainstream' America rejects their hateful ideology
Although, they don't reject it vehemently enough.
ah, fuck.
yanks 2, twinks 2
But I also see their influence on the wane since 2004.
That's excellent. I hope I'm just behind the times and you are completely right.
'mainstream' America rejects their hateful ideology.
I agree, but their influence on laws has already been out of proportion to that rejection or acceptance. I do agree that most people in the US don't agree with them.
A significant percentage of Americans tell pollsters they believe the earth revolves around the sun. (More than 15%.)
This is a guy named Jack just delurking for a sec to point out that the earth does, in fact, revolve around the sun, and that I hope the number is a LOT more than 15%. ;-)
Considering how many times this was reposted here without correction or comment, I have to say that the "slip of the tongue" argument suddenly seems much more credible to me now...
fuckin buckethead.
At least Minnesota also scored a couple runs, tying that game up.
I have to say that the "slip of the tongue" argument suddenly seems much more credible to me now...
see? XD
Re US media, I actually don't see any, ever. I read the NY Times Book Review, a few random columnists, and that's about it. I can't imagine it's changed very much since I left, but I really don't pay attention to it, so I'll defer to you on that for sure.
OMG none of us noticed that!! Phil typed it backwards and we all just nodded and moved on.
Thank you, oh kind lurker!
I hate how Wake can go from zero to sixty to jumping the divider and going seventy up the wrong side of the highway in one inning.
I would say that from the late 80s to the early 00s, mainstream America was in the 'these people have a lot of correct things to bring to the discussion' phase.
Now I think we are in the 'I disagree with their ideology, but I think they have the right to practice it as they please' phase.
In theory, we will eventually move to the 'that kind of thinking is unacceptable in a modern society' phase, although I'm not positive it's going to happen any time soon.
if a manager wants to get tossed, shouldn't the ump refuse to eject him no matter WHAT he says?
^^
:)
God bless you for avoiding US media, L.
I can assure you that they love to trumpet the Culture War.
You know Joe, I always thought the so-called culture wars was a lot of bullshit too. Or at least greatly exaggerated.
I'm more concerned with their influence on government, which is often hidden from the public. Or not reported on by the MSM.
But you're right, the MSM loves the culture wars angle and plays it to the hilt, whether or not it's warranted.
if a manager wants to get tossed, shouldn't the ump refuse to eject him no matter WHAT he says?
Thatd be a funny way for the ump to deal with the problem.
We're in total agreement, then. Although I don't think their influence over government is massive. Even the GWB administration refers to the religious right as 'The Crazies' in private.
When the Bush administration calls you crazy, you're fucked.
I think mainstream America is too busy trying to survive to react very vehemently to any of this stuff. Life is very hard for so many people, and only getting harder.
exactly. most people aren't all that bothered over these issues. most americans are far futher to the right than I am, but they aren't highly intolerant right wing nutters who want to bomb abortion clinics and think hurricanes hit to punish cities for holding gay parades.
Well.. we're not in total agreement, sorry. :)
It doesn't matter what the govt calls them in private, if they enact the laws they want. People used to say GHWB was "personally pro choice". But it doesn't matter what he personally felt if he played to that crowd.
I don't think Buscho gives a shit about religion. You know their only religion is profit.
most americans are far futher to the right than I am, but they aren't highly intolerant right wing nutters who want to bomb abortion clinics and think hurricanes hit to punish cities for holding gay parades.
I agree. I frequently tell Canadians as much. :)
The virulently anti-gay types have helped the gay rights movement hugely, I think.
Could this be the most off-topic gamethread evah?
I am not religious personally but I am not anti-religious either (as many here seem to be). Being anti-religious can be just as hateful and destructive as the things you blame religion for. Religion is a huge part of many people's lives and brings them meaning, joy, and peace. Also religion has been one of the major forces in bringing humans from just another nomadic mammal to the society you see today. It is disingenuous to simply ignore or dismiss the positive force that religion has had in this world. Search yourselves and ask, am I showing tolerance, prizing diversity, and honoring people's choices in spirituality -- or am I judging others by my own beliefs and dismissing people just because they believe differently?
Probably. But it's been a good/productive/enlightening one.
I agree with you spencer, trust me.
I'm personally atheist, and I am against hardcore religious practice, but I'm not opposed to it.
Hell, I go to a university with a strong religious affiliation. I consider it to be a positive addition to my experience.
but I'm not opposed to it.
it= religion. my bad
Spencer, there has not been one anti-religion comment here.
We are talking about religious influence on government, and the intolerance of *certain* religious people of others who don't believe what they believe.
If anyone is anti-reigious here, they have not said so.
It is disingenuous to simply ignore or dismiss the positive force that religion has had in this world.
I'm the one who's always saying that!
I'm an atheist myself, but I am always reminding people of the role religion has played in progressive movements all over the world.
Spencer, I think you are reading a lot into the discussion that was not there.
If anyone is anti-reigious here, they have not said so.
Typo. I meant "anti-religion".
Bingo. Most American religion these days is a 'spiritual mush' of general moral principles guided by the Judeo-Christian tradition which, for the most part, is a very honorable one.
It's the people who believe in doctrine over morality --- and who are absolutely convinced that their version of 16th cty. morality is the only true one --- who I oppose.
*Burp*
thanks heidi
yo ish, go pens go eh?
let's get some fraggin' runs this inning, boys.
I just want there to be a very, very strict separation of faith and government. And I want people to not impose their own religious beliefs on me.
But they just won't stop trying! :)
Did someone say Heidi? Here she be.
A lot of people don't realieze that the group that's arguably done more to protect private religious expression than any other is the ACLU.
ish: GOAL pittsburgh
Right. RUNS, PLEASE!!!!
Did someone say Heidi? Here she be.
I missed it. I was watching hockey.
Insert stereotypical male comment of disappointment.
Let's go Variteq.
I mean, yook. wow
yo ish, go pens go eh?
I actually haven't been watching. I've kind of lost interest since they lost the other day. But... It is 1-0.
stanley cup finals > heidi
Insert stereotypical male comment of disappointment.
Balls.
you know what L?
I agree.
A lot of people don't realieze that the group that's arguably done more to protect private religious expression than any other is the ACLU.
Yay Joe!!
genitalia
you know what L?
I agree.
Yay Joe Again!
yup.. I'm one of those dreaded CCMOTACLU.
502
AND MANNY>ALL
BAD BAD MAN
502!!!!!!!!!!
dong, da-dong dong. dong, da-dong dong DONG!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi Jere, welcome back! Were you at all 3 games? You saw 500!!!!
lowell's turn?
i thought yook might have sasahed, but that was around his letters -- a rule book strike.
They cannot even hope to contain Manny.
I was too. Even tho I didn't carry a card. :)
They always think we get cards, don't they?
I was only at the Saturday game--was traveling Fri and Sun. So yes I got to see it!!!! Was so cool.
Yea, although I did get a card, and I carry it around just to say I'm a card-carryer.
I like the Dragnet Dong Song. Nice.
manny to oppo = unstoppable
I can't believe how many empty seats there are in Minnesota. I guess it's a hockey town eh?
I'm glad someone picked up on it.
Jere, OMG what luck! We thought you were there all weekend. Your name came up many times in threads. (Is Jere there? I hope he hits it so Jere can see it, etc. etc.)
Yay, what luck. Awesome luck.
Yes, I said it. Awesome!
Ish: Orpik. Beast. Coming to the Bruins next year. Mark it down.
This Sullivan Tire ad is the worst ever! It's so bad it's good.
Yay, what luck. Awesome luck.
Indeed!
ACTORS:
Barney Rubble > Dustin Pedroia
I'm glad I got here for the "say if you're anti-religion" portion of the evening. I'll just say that I believe in freedom OF religion as well as freedom FROM religion.
(And I know that's probably a bumper sticker but that about sums it up for me.)
I think I scared off Spencer Brown. If I did, I apologize.
I just believe in freedom.
Methinks spencer is more the occasional lurk type than the constant-refresh type like the rest of us addicts.
(Well, I am anti-religion for myself personally! I was just clarifying that that wasn't what we were complaining about re the US.)
Freedom from - yes. Very important.
"Hitler would have been a card-carrying member of the ACLU."
-Bill O'Reilly
OC FREAKING OC!!!
Minnesota is a definitly more hockey than baseball I think.
Ococ leather!
Haha--yeah, since it was tix to that one game I had for six months, hundreds of miles away, it sure was luck. It was great standing for Manny on every at bat, and then the whole place going nuts when he hit it, and then him coming right out to us in left field and saluting since the inning ended right after he hit it.
Someone, somewhere, on some right-wing red sox blog (Misery of Sox?), someone just cited that Billo quote as a serious statement.
I am an idiot.
-- Bill O'Reilly
Also a bigot.
-- Still Bill
4-2 MFYs.
4-2 chokers in the top 6th
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