June 16, 2008

G73: Phillies 8, Red Sox 2

Red Sox  - 000 020 000 - 2  8  0
Phillies - 301 004 00x - 8 12 0
Colon (4-6-4-2-4, 70) had a rough start: ten pitches in, he was down 3-0, thanks to a Rollins dinger, Victorino's double and Howard's two-run dong.

Howard led off the third with another shot to deep left and Boston trailed 4-0. The Red Sox got two back in the fifth on back-to-back taters from Pedroia (who also singled and doubled) and Drew, but then Francona decided bringing Timlin in for the sixth inning would be a good idea.

He was wrong. Walk, single, sacrifice, single, single, fielder's choice, triple, walk. Four runs off Old Yeller allowed the Phillies to put the game on cruise control.

There was good news: Ortiz's cast is off and he may start range of motion exercises on Tuesday.

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Bartolo Colon (3.41, 128 ERA+) / Cole Hamels (3.27, 134 ERA+)

The Phillies (41-30) lead the NL East by 3 games. Chase Utley (.309/.401/.636, 22 HR, 61 RBI, 163 OPS+) and Pat Burrell (.283/.425/.602, 162 OPS+) are the big bats and Hamels is the ace of the staff.

By comparison, J.D. Drew's OPS+ is 164 (.321/.428/.577), followed by Manny Ramirez (146) and Kevin Youkilis (138).

The rest of the AL East is off today, but there was some Yankees news:

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Jere said...

"oh yeah, l-girl, im getting ready to buy my black nixon mets shirt"

funny, my Nixon Sox shirt was the black kind.

So yeah, pitchers getting injured on the basepaths, everybody laughing as a batter swings and his helmet falls off cuz he doesn't know how to hit...all things that could be easily avoided by ending the "experiment."

Amy said...

JD Dong > Heidi

For sure.

Zenslinger said...

I feel a little conflicted about leaving our cat for weekends and long weekends. She's a very interactive creature and definitely starts to get anxious when the suitcases come out. And she does act slightly weird when for a few hours when we do come back.

But the alternative is usually that she gets boarded in a little cage. Isn't it better for her to have the run of her domain, even if we're not around? My wife tends to think she mopes the whole time we're away. I'm more along your line of thinking, Amy. She's just doing her regular napping, patrolling, meeping at birds outside the windows.

L-girl said...

When we had dogs with separation anxiety, I learned how to give a treat, give a head pat and walk confidently out the door without making a fuss. It's really important for them. And it helped me too! So now I'm ok with it.

Damn, where is he going?! To third.

L-girl said...

I always feel the dogs are better off in their own environment. We always have someone stay over with them.

Patrick said...

When I or my mom work with our horses and my dog sees it, she flips out! She gets all yappy and jealous.

redsock said...

Gee-off down by way of the K.

andy said...

Why didnt Ellsbury know that was over his head and could have possibly gone off wall if not over it? Does he never play around a big green wall?

L-girl said...

Zen, I vote for your version, cat doing her thing while you're gone. She knows you're coming back.

Amy said...

Zen, we always have left our cats home. And yes, they can act pissy when we get home. We had one cat when I was a kid who would tear threw an entire role of toilet paper when we went away. But I agree that they are happier in their familiar environment, as long as they get fresh water, food and litter every day.

Amy said...

I HEARD Heidi!!

L-girl said...

We were once gone for a month, someone stayed with our dogs. Our big Shepherd mix went nuts when we came home - crying, trembling - it was horrible.

[AMY: HEIDI]

I think while we were gone she gave up on us, thought we were gone forever. Then was all confused when we returned.

I realized it had been too long for her. I felt awful.

ish said...

That's the thing I get worried about with my cat. Like to see him get fresh water every day if we're gone. And if we do go, we're gone for a week or so.

Amy said...

We also leave our dog home now. We used to use boarders until we found a good sitter who would come in several times a day. I would prefer to have someone stay in the house, but that has proven almost impossible. But I still figure better to sleep alone in the house than alone in a kennel cage.

ish said...

Remy thinks Colon got hurt on one of the swings. Could've tweaked his back, maybe

nick said...

[AMY: HEIDI]

I think while we were gone she gave up on us, thought we were gone forever. Then was all confused when we returned.

I realized it had been too long for her. I felt awful.



I thought you were talking about Heidi!

That's what I get for speed reading 213 comments.

ish said...

And Moss pinch-hits for Colon.

ish said...

Big thunderstorm coming toward Philly. Not raining or lightning-ing yet. But there usually are big gusts before the storm. They've been talking about that today.

L-girl said...

That I couldn't do. Someone has to be here at night, or else I would board them. There are really nice places that are more like camps than kennels - no cages, big enclosures. Or you can board them at someone's home, a lot of people take in dogs.

Obviously it must be fine or you wouldn't do it. I just would be too nervous.

nick said...

I also second peppermint stick ice cream. or straight up peppermint. or malted vanilla w/ chocolate chunks smushed in (not the same since Herrell's got rid of the bittersweet chunks).

Amy said...

We had to board Cassie (with the afore-mentioned trainer) about a month after we got her for about three weeks. (We had found her at the shelter and had to take her then, but had a previously planned vacation coming up.) I was sure she would never remember us when we got back. She not only remembered us, but she was so happy. And better trained, to boot!

L-girl said...

Not Heidi, Gypsy! The great and wonderful Gypsy. Our first dog.

Uh-oh, getting teary eyed...

Patrick said...

If I eat ice cream it has to be some variation of chocolate. It's too good a chance to eat chocolate to pass up.

Amy said...

Yeah, we have had no problems. But Cassie and her predecessor were both very, very calm dogs, so they were no problem.

Herrell's, Nick---which one? Northampton??

L-girl said...

That's a good story re Cassie. :)

We had to wait to pick up Tala b/c we were moving and also had a short trip planned. She was staying with a trainer who we hated and we thought was abusive! So we couldn't wait to get her.

We had to rescue her from the rescuers!

ish said...

Radar looks clean for Philadelphia.

L-girl said...

[insert northampton conversation here]

Amy said...

Chocolate ice cream was my most favorite thing to eat in the world...until acid reflux....

Patrick said...

Heidi > Acid reflux

L-girl said...

what a drag. now you can eat ice cream but not chocolate?

ish said...

I thought about counting the ice cream places on my little road trip on Saturday, but I lost count.

Amy said...

Did you get to Herrell's when your nephew lived in Noho, Laura?

Still waiting for Nick's response.

Herrell's: founded by Steve Herrell, whose first store was in Somerville, where I spent every Friday night waiting on line for chocolate with Heathbars mixed in. Back in 1975. Steve sold it to the guy who started Bertucci's. Then started Herrell's. More to this story, but does anyone but me care?

L-girl said...

patrick, i was going to do the same thing!!

ish said...

interesting it'd be chocolate that would aggravate acid reflux.

L-girl said...

No. I'm not a big ice cream eater. I like it once in a while when I'm in the mood, but don't go out of way for it.

Amy said...

I have a hard time with chocolate. I will eat a little (like tonight with vanilla swirled in). But a really rich chocolate would make me very uncomfortable. :( Acid reflux sucks.

ish said...

I'm not a big fan of chocolate myself. Only in small doses.

L-girl said...

Oh shit Amy, that "no" was not in reply to "does anyone but me care".

It was to "did you go to Herrell's...".

!!!

redsock said...

timlin = acid reflux

nixon33 said...

jere, i didnt even know they had a black sox jersey???
i'm gonna buy the t-shirt.
when i go see the mets play i'll wear my sox trot shirt

fucking timlin

ish said...

Toast.

L-girl said...

WF

Patrick said...

To give you idea of the people that you might find in Kingston, NH: My sister and I went to a bar in town a couple days ago.
People were singing kareoke and one gentleman sang The Rodeo Song.

It was a bar favorite, and the word 'Goon' in the song ended with a k and not an n. Pretty bad.

Amy said...

Yeah, chocolate is one of the things on that list of things not to eat/drink, along with coffee, caffeine, alcohol, and soda. I gave up all but one. Guess which one?

Shit, who the hell put Timlin into this game??

redsock said...

i am not a mike timlin fan.

sadly, terry francona is.

Amy said...

Haha, Laura, I read it the way you meant it! (But it's okay if no one cared about my Herrell's story!)

redsock said...

if bush was managing the red sox:
"we never could have imagined the sucky pitching of mike timlin."

nixon33 said...

could timlin be any worse, COULD HE??????

Amy said...

Jesus, what the fuck? We get within two, and Francona acts like we already lost the game, bringing in Timlin.

Jere, you STILL have faith in this guy?

L-girl said...

I have to leave the thread soon and go collapse. Very little sleep last night, and an early flight tomorrow.

This might be our last game for a while. Tomorrow I hope to do a pub crawl in St. John's. People tell us we might find a bar with the Sox game on.

nixon33 said...

tito:
lets get within two runs and then let timlin blow it wide open!

Patrick said...

Mama, get the shotgun...

andy said...

Timlin is my new favorite player, did I mention I am a Rays fan?

L-girl said...

Holy shit I hate Mike Timlin.

nick said...

crap. I went to the kitchen to reheat leftovers and took a phone call. I come back to find out we're down by 2, scratch that, 3 runs. and fuck. fuck.

Amy said...

Nixon, great minds think alike.

Laura, have a good night's sleep, a safe flight, and a wonderful trip.

I wish I had an excuse not to watch any more of this game. I may just go read anyway.

TIMLIN SHOULD BE RELEASED.

andy said...

Look what this fuck did to my lover boy. He could have hurt himself.

L-girl said...

Amy, good choice. I can't imagine having to give up caffeine or alcohol. I've quit caffeine many times, but never for long. It's a very intense addiction.

redsock said...

might as well keep timlin out there now --

it's mop up time

ish said...

Where are the threads going to be? I'm trying to make this blog, and I don't know when it would be ready. I'd say it should be ready for tomorrow night, if anyone wants to gamethread there.

Joe Grav said...

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh fuck Timlin. I've been sick as a dog all day, I'm glad I woke up in time to see Timlin pitch

andy said...

Hey tito you would pitch better out there.

andy said...

Hey Mike go in and give us a challenge.

Amy said...

Why are we all so smart and Francona so STUPID? Do they sleep with each other or something?

andy said...

Fastball isn't working so lets walk people.

L-girl said...

Even I got that was sarcasm, Andy.

Thanks Amy. You hereby have permission not to watch the rest of the game.

Another walk. And here's Tito. Just a tad late. Nice job Old Yeller.

See you all... soon.

ish said...

Aardvark for Toast... Einstein for Slugo.

Patrick said...

Drink lots of water Joe! And don't look. It's awful.

andy said...

Amy I believe we have conjectured just that before.

nick said...

ice cream >>>>>> this score.

Yep, Amy, in Northampton. I went to high school there so I had the pleasure of the Herrell's. When I visit, I like to go there on occasion. Bart's is good, but just not as... for me. When I was small there was a place in Amherst called Just Desserts that I enjoyed.

Here in the Berkshires, we had Berkshire Ice Cream which used to be fabulous and now is just great. Their Ginger ice cream is so good.

redsock said...

Tonight, on "No Shit Theater":

remy: seems like a little late for this move.

don: sure does.

ish said...

Drink lots of water Joe! And don't look. It's awful.

Unless you-know-who is on.

Amy said...

A pitching change NOW? I say let TImlin stay in, kill his arm, and then we will not have to watch him any more.

Hey, Nick, which Herrell's do you go to? (trying to think about something good to cheer me up)

thatdietcokegirl said...

here's my creative writing story using three word sentences:

i hate mike timlin. i hate mike timlin. i hate mike timlin. release him now. he's too old. he can't pitch. francona is mental. what the fuck.

ish said...

This move should have been switched. Aardsma has been a better pitcher than Timlin. If he allows 4 runs, then yes, bring in Timlin.

nixon33 said...

i dont know what to say....

andy said...

Wow Tito is finally listening to me. He pulled Timlin AND Lugo at the same time. Or he is just horny and is taking them back to the showers.

thatdietcokegirl said...

lol wait the first three were 4. F(((

Patrick said...

Asparagus has been eaten.

Chocolate ice cream time!

Amy said...

Andy, that line was written with you in mind!

Nick, Bart's is gone from Noho. It left several years ago. But Herrell's is still there. I love it (even without eating chocolate). I was reminiscing about Steve Herrell above. I have been eating his ice cream for 33 years!

redsock said...

tdcg's grade: F

nixon33 said...

Tonight, on "No Shit Theater":

remy: seems like a little late for this move.

don: sure does.


I actually laughed out loud...thanks

andy said...

This was stupid tito. You could have pinched for Timlin idiot.

Amy said...

Dietcokegirl emerges to write poetry! I guess Timlin requires us all some space to vent.

Jere----strangely silent.

ish said...

Nick, you get any good thunderstorms this afternoon? Amy, you?

nick said...

Which Herrell's? These days I don't know where they are. The one in Northampton that's in the basement of Thorne's Market.

Did the Bart's in Noho close?

andy said...

Does your pee smell bad after you eat asparagus?

Zenslinger said...

When I was small there was a place in Amherst called Just Desserts that I enjoyed.

It was there when I was in college (89-93). I didn't notice it was gone at my 15th reunion a couple weeks back.

andy said...

oh i am the idiot.

andy said...

I hate catchers who do that straight leg thing.

Zenslinger said...

Timlin's ERA is 7.06.

It's kind of sad, but time for him to go.

Amy said...

Nick, you and I keep missing each other's posts! Yes, there is still just one Herrell's in Noho, in Thornes. And yes, Bart's closed (see post above). Not sure about Just Desserts, but I can check it out when we are back in western MA. Where in Amherst was it located?

Joe Grav said...

ughhhhhhhhhhhh

andy said...

Does theo have a say in timlin's future? Does he think timlin is good or worth keeping. I would rather watch some new kid get spanked then an old guy. at least you have a fall back when its a rookie. with a guy who has sucked for a while now it's hard to justify his continuing sucktitude.

Amy said...

No rain here at all today, except a minute of sprinkles. Sun and clouds alternating. It looked like it would pour several times, but never did. (We are on the Cape, not in western MA.)

andy said...

Sox Dbacks games should be cool. Why are they playing again this year?

ish said...

I think I've got a title for my blog. Whatcha think...

Two Hobbies, One Blog.

Joe Grav said...

fenway. one of my best friends at bc is from phoenix. she's in boston working this summer, so we might try to check out a game.

ish said...

Dice-K is pitching tonight for Pawtucket... against the Lehigh Valley Iron Pigs.

Must make Dice feel right at home. Instead of the Ham Fighters, you've got the Iron Pigs.

nick said...

Whoops! yep. back and forth.

Just Desserts is definitely gone. It was there in, oh, 1980, but gone by the time I cam back for high school. It was in that building that Bart's is in in Amherst next to the Unitarian Church, but a store front or two back.

On the ice cream tip, Haagen-daaz is pretty much the only place to find rum raisin these days.

nick said...

We had a decent storm this afternoon when I was getting ready to leave work. Not as bad as expected but nice. No hail, but lovely swirling textured clouds before the water came down. Nice lightning lines as well.

out there?

Joe Grav said...

it's beginning to Lightning out.

ish said...

Speaking of local places to eat... There's a bagel shop in a Price Chopper grocery store (and I'm not sure if all of them have one) in Keene, NH, which have the freshest bagels I've had. They constantly make them throughout the day. The best one I had was a cheddar cheese bagel. Cheddar cheese! The good thing was the cheddar wasn't strong at all. In fact, it kept the bagel very soft.

Amy said...

Ish, it's functional, but not the most eye-catching blog title. Isn't someone here in marketing or something? How about Foto Games?

Joe Grav said...

How big is Keene? I'm gonna be in Keene on Thursday for a ballgame. I like bagels.

ish said...

None here. We've been in the clouds all day. Got that marine layer going. That's kryptonite for thunderstorms. I'd really, really love to be in Boston, at night, during a good lightning storm with my camera. That would be quite the amazing night.

Amy said...

Uhoh, bagel talk. As a former NYer, I have never found a New England bagel that is as good as almost any bagel in NY. Some have come close, but most are soft, textureless imitations of a bagel.

Cheddar cheese bagels? Blasphemy! :)

ish said...

How big is Keene? I'm gonna be in Keene on Thursday for a ballgame. I like bagels.

Keene's pretty small. College town. Nice city center that was recently renovated. Right downtown there's a nice mexican take-out place called Armadillo's Burritos. On the western outskirts of town, there is a large shopping center that's got a Border's, Target, and a few other big box stores. That's where Price Chopper is.

ish said...

I agree with you Amy, on the bagels. The best bagel I can find around here is from Panera Bread - asiago cheese. Most of the other bagel shops are all the same.

Patrick said...

Keene state is a wild college. I've been to some crazy parties there.

nick said...

Amy, I'm not going to say there are bagels in NE better than NY because no matter how true it is or isn't, it's an argument that can't be won, but....

Here in Great Barrington, we have a bagel shop with some quite nice bagels. I worked there for 3 years awhile back...we'd often have weekenders bring bagels back to the city.

redsock said...

sox: if you are not going to come back and win, just get it over with asap.

ish said...

Well, my blog is up. Haven't posted anything yet, but it looks like a possible gamethreading location for when A and L are off vacationing.

ish said...

Keene state is a wild college. I've been to some crazy parties there.

Did you bring your earmuffs?

redsock said...

i think threads will be at jere's blog or threadsox. but if jere is out and no one likes t-sox, then i guess ish's blog would do. you guys'll sort it out!

Amy said...

Great Barrington attracts so many NYers that I believe you, Nick---if NYers like them, they must be good.

We were in Great Barrington about a month ago---what a great town it has become (we were last there about 20 years ago). We ate in a very nice little pizza place, I forget the name?

redsock said...

sox making outs in a hurry.
i guess that means it'll be a loss.

Amy said...

Ish, where is your blog?

Amy said...

At least the game will be over soon. Like a bad movie---shorter the better.

nick said...

what's the link, ish?

There's been some discussion of threads while our hosts are away. Seems like the preferences at this point is threadsox or Jere's blog. I offered to moderate here, but I'm leaving wednesday for 6 days. I also started a blog at notjoyofsox.blogspot.com, but it just adds another level of complexity by offering nothing new except for the rare occasion that A&L are away.

redsock said...

ish: a bit late with this

give your blog a url like "ish.blogspot.com" and then you can change the title as you like in the future, but the url "name" will stay the same.

ish said...

The Bagel Factory, is the place in Price Chopper.

Amy said...

I will go wherever you all tell me to go! (OK, not literally, and no wisecracks, please.)

Zenslinger said...

Sign outside City Hall in San Francisco:

RECRIMINALIZE SODOMY

Joe Grav said...

Well, we're not going to win this one, but something good can come out of it if Oki has a good outing.

WHOA massive lightning outside

nick said...

Ah, Baba Louie's, probably, Amy. Right on main st. organic sourdough crusts... yummers.

If you (any of you) are in the southern berkshires, feel free to let me know.

ish said...

photosandsports.blogspot.com

Amy said...

For real, Zen, or is it supposed to be a joke?

Joe Grav said...

two down!

Patrick said...

On the bright side, Pedroia is hitting.

Amy said...

Yup, that's the place, Nick! It was wonderful.

We had gone out there for an end of year party thrown by one of my students. Alex Sohn...maybe you have met him? But we just dropped in and then went to eat in town.

THe last time we were there we stayed at an inn called THe Turning Point, right near Butternut. 1985, I believe.

nick said...

I can't stand the idiocy of that sign, zen.

I had a professor who had this quote on his door:

"It's a shame ignorance isn't painful." -anonymous.

unfortunately, it all too often is, but there's no way out if you can't see it.

Amy said...

Hey, Ish, that's much better! Not as clever as mine, but close enough. :)

ish said...

The gingerale dried up pretty quickly.

Joe Grav said...

YEAH!

Amy said...

Well, at least Jeemer didn't mess the bed this time.

Joe Grav said...

day after father's day miracle

ish said...

So, unless there was a plan in place for gamethreads while our hosts are gone, I'll throw up a post tomorrow and you can all thread there.

nick said...

well, soon enough. Ive got to swap out some songs on my mp3 player to go to the laundromat.

We have one 24-hour laundromat, but they just lowered their dryers' time/quarter to 6 minutes a quarter. gack!

Joe Grav said...

i'll be there ish

Patrick said...

On the bright side Jeermer just sat some big hitters down.

redsock said...

so should i change my note on the right-hand side?

ish said...

i'll be there ish

And maybe this winter there could be Bruins and Celtics gamethreads. If there are enough people.

Joe Grav said...

Thatr'd be cool.

ish said...

That'd be up to Jere. I actually never saw that note.

Joe Grav said...

we're coming back

Joe Grav said...

wow, this is gonna be an incredible comeback

nixon33 said...

And maybe this winter there could be Bruins and Celtics gamethreads. If there are enough people.

LAST I CHECKED THERE'S A C'S GAME TOMORROW!
we could wrap it all up into one!
haha

Joe Grav said...

there's a start

Joe Grav said...

there's a start

Amy said...

Now we get hits?

redsock said...

so, ish, i guess you are not keen on overseeing things here?

Amy said...

Game over in less than three hours.

This was one depressing game. Colon and Timlin were awful.

Joe Grav said...

ahhh kablooey.

nick said...

...and there's the end.

ish said...

so, ish, i guess you are not keen on overseeing things here?

I can't usually guarantee being at the computer for the entire game, that's the thing.

ish said...

The water is clean.

Amy said...

OK, I will find you guys if I am around to thread tomorrow night.

Allan, have a wonderful trip! We will miss you guys.

nick said...

Well, Allan & Laura.

Have an awesome vacation!

ish said...

B's and C's gamethread sounds fun. One flows right into another.

ish said...

Not sure why I said B's. Heh. Sox and C's.

redsock said...

so, if i leave a note at the top of the blog, what should it say?

ish said...

Exactly what it says now, except at Ish's blog, http://www.photosandsports.blogspot.com/

Sound good? I'll keep comments open like here. Haven't decide whether I'll moderate between games or not. Probably not, unless I run into problems.

nixon33 said...

anyone else gonna watch the mets?

ish said...

anyone else gonna watch the mets?

Wish I could. But if I broke out my AM radio, and held it just the right way, I'd be able to pick up WFAN.

nixon33 said...

wfan's reception sucks, and i live in brooklyn!

ish said...

wfan's reception sucks, and i live in brooklyn!

I can get it pretty well in the car up here, but not so well in the house. I know what you mean, though. I was listening to a Mets/Nats game once in the car and the Nationals radio (1500 AM) came in better up here than WFAN did!

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