Red Sox - 000 030 010 - 4 9 1Jonathan Papelbon's throwing error put the tying run at second base with no one out in the bottom of the ninth, but he snuffed the next three hitters on a soft liner to shortstop, a groundout to second (runner to third) and a swinging strikeout of Travis Snider.
Blue Jays - 020 010 000 - 3 7 1
The Rays routed Minnesota 11-1, so Boston remains 1.5 GB in the East. But the wild card lead is back to 7.5.
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Paul Byrd (4.53, 98 ERA+) / A.J. Burnett (4.19, 103 ERA+)
David Ortiz on winning the division or wild card:
If you're in, you're in. It doesn't matter. We won the division last year. We look forward to being back in the playoffs this year. I never noticed the difference between winning the division and going in as the Wild Card. As long as you're in, you're in. That's what everybody looks for -- being in the top four.Yet, I also believe the East can still be had: Down by 1.5 and knowing the tiebreaker is Tampa's, the Red Sox need to make up 2.5 games with 10 left on the schedule.
Tony Massarotti is thinking about the post-season roster. ... Mike Lowell reports a "slight improvement" with his right hip. ... Check out these year's rookie hazing pix (Chris Carter has got some serious jugs).
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Mike Puma, Post:
On the bright side, the Yankees don't have to worry about their season ending in a fourth straight AL Division Series meltdown. ...The Yankees can be officially eliminated from the division race tonight, if the Rays win and New York loses. Any Red Sox wins and/or Yankees losses totalling three will eliminate the Yankees from the wild card race.
"Why is everybody acting like this year is over with?" Jeter said.
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Twins/Rays at 7
Orioles/Yankees at 7
White Sox/Royals at 8
East Magic #
Rays 90 61 ---
Red Sox 89 63 1.5 10
Blue Jays 82 71 9.0 2
Yankees 82 71 9.0 2
Orioles 67 84 23.0 E
Wild Card Magic #
Red Sox 89 63 ---
Twins 83 70 6.5 4
Blue Jays 82 71 7.5 3
Yankees 82 71 7.5 3
546 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 546 of 546Minor leaguer from mid-90s in Mets' org.: Hamlet Guerrero.
I got the same feeling about our short-lived newbie.
Just hit a button, and she would have nothing to do with hearing people's explanations of their comments, none of which seemed to be insulting to me.
A shame too, she seemed interesting.
Gary Ward and his son...
Did you guys both get Babe Towne w/o looking it up?
Gene Hamlet Krapp.
Babe Towne was my first look-up
Sosock, yes, well put.
Hamlet Guerrero is a great name!
Gene Hamlet Krapp.
Also on the all shit team.
Lance Parrish and Larry Parrish were a few more parishes.
Wayne County
Yeah, having a math person here would have been fun. It's too bad...oh, well.
No baseball player named Villa? I know there must be. I just am too lazy to look it up.
LOL, Ofer---the all shit team. Wasn't that the 62 Mets?
Gene Hamlet Krapp.
Also on the all shit team.
Oh no... !!
And obviously the Shakespearean team.
Not sure why we're bringing in Oki now, since GDGD says Vernon Wells flied out for both the second AND third at-bats of the inning.
Our bat, by my count
Any Hoods?
Pete Hamm?
I've been trying to think of a county. I don't look up. I leave that to Phil.
Hood: sponsor of the Boston Red Sox
Castig just said MDC "pitched one perfect inning"
1 out in the 7th and 2 outs in the 8th does NOT equal a "perfect inning". jesus!
I consider myself a "math" person, for what it's worth.
INSURANCE RUNS, PLEASE
Not sure why we're bringing in Oki now
Because Francona wants to burn everyone before using Papelbon in the 9th?
I bet there's a hood in there somewhere. That's a good one. Nabe would work too.
Block? How local are we getting?
And I'm sure someone else has mentioned this but...
Bay > OverBay , no matter what it might sound like.
Shakepeare team... that would be hard. I don't think there was a Chris Desdemona anywhere.
Ok, Jere, we will ask you all the tough statistical questions.
I admit to being a tad worried with Bot in the 9th. Good thing it's the 6-7-8 hitters.
Jere, did you see that woman's blog? Serious higher math. Uni prof.
Maybe you do that, too, I don't know.
Knoblauch
KIrby Puck-ett?
Re Bot, I get worried too.
Re Shakespeare, lots of Henrys.
Huston Street
A two fer
Block? How local are we getting?
If we get into blocks, then Street, Lane, Rhodes, and their friends will want in two. You have to put the line somewhere.
I'm good at math up to a point. I'll put it that way.
Oh yeah, Blauchead, forgot about that little guy.
Knoblauch...great one!
Lots of Shakespeare characters go by a single name that's also a typical first name.
Some insurance would be nice.
wow -- huge increase in traffic today -- like almost one-third higher than normal -- wallace stuff.
also this search string:
"what parks do the red sox and yankees play in for their winter parks, and what cities. tell me a little bit each park"
:>0
mmmm Overbay to Bay.
and my q about Oki was sarcastic. GDGD was pulling one of it's typical stunts, listing Wells' at-bat twice, and showing it as the 2nd AND 3rd outs of the inning.
I gotta agree with Ofer. Block should stay on the street team with Rhodes, Huston, et al.
Buffy talking about Schill's Mannytalk. "You can always count on Curt Schilling to tell it like it is."
How do you know it's "like it is", Buffy you fool??? What if it's just pure BULLSHIT??!!
Seriously?
"what parks do the red sox and yankees play in for their winter parks, and what cities. tell me a little bit each park"
Those are the search strings that crack me up.
"where is a nice place to live in canada because i am tired of living where i live now and someone told me canada is nice"
Charlie Monfort-inbras?
Seriously?
Win.
Jere, excellent find. Talk about the Shakespeare team!
A little insurance please, but not from AIG
King Lear! Great baseball name.
No ball players named Romeo?
JtC could be Lord Chamberlain from Henry VIII.
SoSock, yes, no AIG.
Joe Cicero.
Fuck, I can't believe I didn't think about it before... the Sox just DFA'd a McBeth.
Uhoh, bottom of the 9th with the increasingly fallible and hittable Papelbon.
Virgil "Fellow Of Infinite" Jester
Mike Mussina (Lord Bigot)
OMG, do they have to call Papelbon "Little Papi"??? God what idiots.
The Shakespeare team is coming along nicely!
LAA: 322 13
TEX: 009 0
!
I typed in Lear thinking there was a better chance of a Norman Lear than an actual King Lear...
Wow, Virgil Milton Jester... I'd bet 5000$ one of his parents was a literature professor, poet, author, or something of the sort.
Shelley Duncan. (Macbeth.)
Bot in and Tito makes the infield weaker with Cora at ss (Jedi 3B, Yook 1B)
Horacio Ramirez, too. And someone at some point must have called Ankiel or Henderson over by shouting: Yo, Rick!
OH FUCK
Dear Bot,
Please be Bot.
Love always,
....
oh shit.
Fenton Mole (Merry Wives of Windsor).
Fucking Papelbon.
Titus Francona Andronicus
Papelbon just ain't much a of a fielder.
Yo, Rick! LOL
Update:
LAA: 322 15
TEX: 009 0
Crazy linescores tonight
Yo Rick :>)
FUCKING LIND (and bot and etc.)
Probably no Guildersterns or Rosencrantzes.
What happened? Was it Genius' fault?
Oh Titus! There's a 1918 Titus.
They called him Tight Ass.
The Look is only good if you can back it up.
Yo Rick - priceless.
I am getting tired of these tense ninth innings.
Shit. Can Masterson get ready, pls?
From our parody thread: "Well, nice seeing you all, I'm off to get a burger..."
John Montgomery Ward is on the all municipality team, the all store team, and the all Shakespeare team (John Montgomery, Henry VI, Part 3). And of course, the all prostitution team and all break-up letter team and all male dead body team and all bathroom team.)
Curt Montague Schilling.
Rays hold on and win 11-1.
Schilling, of course! Very good.
Jere, I don't get all of those, but it's very funny.
Bot, please. Please.
"Probably no Guildersterns or Rosencrantzes"
Those were the first two I looked up:)
The "John" is the key to the last few....
Ok, I got them all now. John is a very versatile name.
At least I got it before I read Jere's hint.
Kelly Paris.
OK, WTF is going on here?
GDGD has Zaun making an out but it also has him being the 1st batter of the inning! Yeesh!
It shows a runner at 2nd and 1 out - HELP!
Yeah, I was thinking there must be a Paris. And a Bernardo. I can't find a Laertes or a Polonius though.
There is a runner at second and one out. Leadoff hitter got there by Bot's throwing error.
On the All-Shakespeare-didn't-really-write-his-plays team:
The Rockies' Francis, Eddie Bacon, and Dick Marlowe.
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, bacon ...
Shakespeare Team's gonna kick their phony asses.
Thanks - so Zaun is still batting?
Is Polonia close enough?
Yup, Zaun still at bat, now grounds out. Two away, SoSock.
FKR's Mitch Talbot. (Henry VI.)
Boy, a year ago I wouldn't have been worrying if Bot had two away. Not this year.
Lots of Antony's from Julius Caesar.
Those unis make the BJs look like 12-year olds in their jammies.
You guys are good on the minor characters.
Ulysses Frank Grant.
Or would you spell that Antonys? I think the apostrophe seems right, even though it is plural, not possessive. What do my experts say?
Aha! I think they caught up. Shows Zaun grounding out, and the damn tying run now at 3rd with 2 outs. Funny thing is - it still lists Zaun as the FIRST batter.
Now I know why I called it Goddamn Gameday.
Two strikes. ONE MORE, PAP.
I call them softball unis.
Frank Viola. (Twelfth Night).
Water!
No apostrophe.
Whew. Thank goodness. Dirty Water.
DIRTY WATER! Pap holds on to his cool. PHEW
DW/T/JttW
I'm hungry and tired. (Waaaa, waaa.) See you all!
Still 1.5 GB East
WC lead back to 7.5 over Min & MFY
Aren't those like the uniforms all the teams wore back in the weird 70s when Oscar Gamble had that massive afro?
FKR 11 - MIN 1.
MFY 3 - BAL 2.
There's a win.
The Tek "stand up" works! I don't think I've ever seen that before.
High heat, dirty water.
MFY better start losing so Toronto has a chance to retake third place after we're through with them.
We gain one tomorrow!
(That's my story and I'm sticking to it)
Later, gotta fix a lineup for my first fall game that counts. :)
WC lead back to 7.5 over Min & MFY
Oh, are we still keeping score of the whole WC thing?
Hey, didn't the Rays just clinch a playoff spot, now that I think of it?
Oh, never mind. They need one more win, or for one of the MFY & Twins to NOT go undefeated to clinch. Yeah, I think they're in.
Oh man, I saw the O. Gamble reference and remembered seeing that link when I skimmed back thru the thread. Jeez, what a fro!
I must admit - I with my super curly hair had a pretty mean one myself. Not quite THAT mean, but pretty mean.
My kids love nothing more than pulling out the old picture albums when they make new friends.
I always thought the runner has to choose between rounding off at first base or heading towards second and couldn't do the former and subsequently elect to do the latter. But Rule 7.08(c) just phrases it as an exception to the tag rule, so I must've made it up.
(Thinking of Wilkerson's play.)
"There's a win."
That's a win.
7.08 Any runner is out when- . . .
(c) He is tagged, when the ball is alive, while off his base. EXCEPTION: A batter runner cannot be tagged out after overrunning or oversliding first base if he returns immediately to the base;
Maybe you're thinking of how after you take the left turn, you can't go and act like you didn't, you're able to be tagged out now. ?
7.08(j) continues:
(j) He fails to return at once to first base after overrunning or oversliding that base. If he attempts to run to second he is out when tagged. If, after overrunning or oversliding first base he starts toward the dugout, or toward his position, and fails to return to first base at once, he is out, on appeal, when he or the base is tagged; Runner who touches first base in overrunning and is declared safe by the umpire has, within the intent of Rule 4.09 (a) "reached first base" and any run which scores on such a play counts, even though the runner subsequently becomes the third out for failure to return "at once," as covered in Rule 7.08 (j).
No, I was thinking that if you take the right turn, you can't then proceed to second. Apparently you're allowed to, as long as you don't get tagged before you get there.
Although 7.10(c) provides:
"7.10 Any runner shall be called out, on appeal, when-
(c) He overruns or overslides first base and fails to return to the base immediately, and he or the base is tagged[.]"
Maybe that's where it comes from. Youk would've had to catch the throw, though.
So if you turned right at first and tried to go to second, the firstbaseman could just tag the base and you'd be out.
De-lurking to point out that the Magic Number is now 2 with the FKR's win over the Twinkies and our own. Clinch Day could be one sunrise away..
NESN just showed the Sheffield brawl. He comes away looking like a puffy Mike Tyson.
Angels fail to score in every inning.
So then would the proper play for Youk have been to take the recovered ball and touch first?
By Wilkerson, I of course mean Lind. Wilkerson was the pinch runner.
The runner at first rule is tough for some. If the runner heads back to 1st immediantly (this is at the umpire's discretion) REGARDLESS of which way he turns, he is safe.
If he makes any move that is construed as attempting to advance, he is subject to being tagged out.
We always teach the kids to turn right just to be safe and not give the ump a chance to say he was attempting the advance. But to answer the last question, turning right does not preclude advancing. If you turn right and see that the ball got past the 1st baseman you can take off.
I don't see the confusion. As soon as the guy turns toward second, he's live meat.
"Clinch Day could be one sunrise away.."
But I still gotta root for Minny tomorrow.
And yes, when I said turn toward second, I meant make a move that means he was thinking about advancing. Technically you can turn to your left to go back to first, that's not a "move toward second."
Oh and - I don't think you can ever touch the base and get the out. If he has passed 1st the force is off, and you would have to tag the runner. I can't think of any situation right now that would allow you to tag the base for the out.
mmmmm, looking at that wording in the rule, maybe you can tag the base. That's interesting. I'll be asking our umpires about that tomorrow. Might have just learned something new. We're supposed to do that every so often I hear.
I'm not saying any ump would've made the call, but wouldn't a straightforward reading of the rules compel it?
It may be controlled by 7.08(j) which says "He fails to return at once to first base after overrunning or oversliding that base. If he attempts to run to second he is out when tagged."
If you read the "if he attempts to run to second" clause as "if and only if", then he can run to second all he wants.
I'm on GDGD so I didn't see the play in question. I just know that we often hear kids being told they can be tagged out if they turn left, and that's not right. If you turn left and go straight back to 1st you can't be tagged out. It IS best to turn right so as not to be misconstrued.
And I have to question being able to tag the base. If the ump decides you were contemplating advancing, you should just take off for second. You're probably out, but they have to execute it. To say you can just tag the bag seems like saying if I round first on a hit to the outfield, then get hung up in between 1st and 2nd, they just have to tag 1st and I'm out. And we know that's not true.
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