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April 18, 2010

G12: Rays 7, Red Sox 1

Rays    - 022 003 000 - 7  7  0
Red Sox - 000 000 001 - 1 5 1
Garza (8-4-0-2-5, 115) did not allow a hit until there were two outs in the fifth (and the batter, Adrian Beltre, was a dead duck at second trying stupidly to stretch his hit into a double).

A Boston runner would not touch second base again until the eighth.

Meanwhile, Carlos Pena and B.J. Upton each hit two-run homers off Lester (6-7-7-3-5, 104), and Ben Zobrist poked a two-run single.

The Red Sox (4-8) have not played this poorly through a season's first 12 games since the 1996 team opened 2-10. (That club was also 2-12 and 3-15 in the early going.)
Example
Matt Garza / Jon Lester
Scutaro, SS
Pedroia, 2B
Martinez, DH
Youkilis, 1B
Drew, RF
Beltre, 3B
Hermida, LF
Varitek, C
Cameron, CF
4 GB. As Peter Abraham says, "It's a good time to be a negative fan."
Example
Linescore of the (Yester)Day:
Mets      - 000 000 000 000 000 000 11 - 2  9  2
Cardinals - 000 000 000 000 000 000 10 - 1 15 0
Joe Mather pinch-hit in the bottom of the 10th inning, and stayed in to play center field, third base, and pitch (he allowed the two Mets runs).

132 comments:

  1. If Jacoby is that hurt he should be on DL and call up Reddick....
    Suck it up kid.....

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  2. Win

    What is this "win" of which you speak? Do you mean "wind"? Is there a breeze?

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  3. If we DL him, he's out for two weeks, though it could be retro'd to the first day he missed. So if he is going to be back within 15 days, maybe working through it short-handed is best.

    Plus Reddick is hitting .138/.167/.172, the worst of any PawSoxer with more than one game played.

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  4. Suck it up kid.....

    Also, wasn't this the attitude that MDC and Dice (and others probably) took last year, which pissed Theo off so much that he actually said on WEEI that players must be honest about their bodies with the FO?

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  5. Sounds like that "mental health day" Reddick had on Thursday was a cover story!

    PawSox broadcaster Dan Hoard:

    For the past two days, Josh [Reddick] has essentially been hiding in a Boston hotel room in case either Mike Cameron or Jacoby Ellsbury had to go on the disabled list. After the Red Sox determined that neither outfielder would be placed on the D.L., Reddick rejoined the PawSox in Rochester on Saturday night and is back in the starting lineup for Sunday's game against the Red Wings.

    "I was told not to tell anybody that I was leaving these guys, so it was pretty hush-hush," Reddick told me. "I did tell my parents. I said, 'Look - I'm going up there but there's no guarantee that I'll be activated.' They keep a pretty good track of what's going on in Pawtucket and I knew that if they saw I wasn't in the lineup they would say, 'Hey, what's wrong? Are you hurt?' So I had to tell them just in case."

    So how did the 23-year-old spent his time?

    "A lot of sitting around and waiting," Reddick said. "The first night I didn't do a whole lot. I basically went and grabbed some food and headed right back and enjoyed the hotel hot tub. I think I fell asleep at about 8:30 that night. They told me three different times the first night that I got there that, 'We'll let you know something tonight.' Then it was, 'We'll let you know something tomorrow because we don't know if we're going to play because of the weather.' Then they called me in the morning and said, 'We'll let you know around 4 o'clock. Just have your mind set to come to Fenway or go back to the other guys.'

    ******

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  6. An ill wind is blowing?

    A breath of fresh (winning) air?

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  7. I actually get to watch some ball. I trust they'll have the decency to toss some good dirty water around. Let's make a mess of this place (in a good way)!

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  8. Does Matt Garza know that there's a raccoon sitting on his chin?

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  9. Garza's chin is another bit of evidence for my theory that a lot of ballplayers play some type of "how totally fucked up and ugly and disgusting can i make my facial hair and still get chicks" game.

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  10. CF camera angle looks like a monsoon.

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  11. I'm thinking it's acting like a windsock.

    damn rain...looks like it's really coming in.

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  12. Least we're not Natinals fans. 10-run 1st for the Brewahs.

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  13. Brewers 1st:

    single
    single
    single
    hbp, 1-0
    walk, 2-0
    hbp, 3-0
    single, 4-0
    (pitching change)
    single, 5-0
    F8, 6-0
    walk
    grand slam HR, 10-0
    K
    walk
    4-3

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  14. So a game goes 0-0 for 18 innings and the next day a team gets 10 runs in the top of the 1st before making a second out ... :>)

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  15. Finally I can thread.

    But not much to thread about today.

    Whose birthday is it?

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  16. The camera showed a kid in the crowd. Remy said he met him before the show and today was his birthday. But Remy couldn't remember his name so he wrote "kid" on the screen and said "I'll just call him Kid".

    another one of those moments.

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  17. Spit Boy is pitching a perfect game!

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  18. So LaRussa used a position player as a pitcher in the 20th inning last night, instead of a starter.

    I used to think he was so smart.

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  19. no more perfecto. fuck you, garzer.

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  20. He may not have had much choice, depending on how he was using people. I think he had a pitcher in LF, too.

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  21. Yeah, he had already used 10 pitchers. I was kind of thinking that wasn't necessary.

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  22. He still thinks his IQ is about 80 points higher than it really is.

    P.S. I hate baseball.

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  23. OK, then... a non baseball story:

    An Australian publisher has had to pulp and reprint a cook-book after one recipe listed "salt and freshly ground black people" instead of black pepper.

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  24. OMG can that be true?? I am skeptical. I mean, I am a nazi. Just a typo.

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  25. that is funny, but an odd typo -- with 3 wrong letters.

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  26. Could have been an auto-correct, I get those all the time. But that's what proofreading is for!

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  27. I've got to leave in about 45 minutes. I'm trusting it will at least be tied up by then.

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  28. Why?

    Not throwing on SB makes it worse somehow. Tek saving his arm?

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  29. what was that "why?" for.

    I think it's a cumulative thing. Tek's next throw on an SB attempt with reach 2nd twice as fast.

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  30. why do you think the sox will tie this game? ... :>)

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  31. I knew that's what why meant. :/

    Nick, your link went to the BBC home page but I found the story. Yeesh. I have to wonder if someone let it through on purpose.

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  32. same rationale as the SB thing. Conservation of runs. Why get put 'em up spattered here and there? I'm looking at a 10-run 6th here.

    That and you gotta like something. What else would I like if I didn't like runs. Sure do like runs.

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  33. Runs are good. Much gooder than getting thrown out at second and looking like a stupid fuckup.

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  34. Conflicting edits, and now I can't delete the extra post... Allan, if you're bored, feel free to clean up.

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  35. there is a good example of a player "trying to do too much". we are not down 1 in the 9th, we are down 4 in the 5th. you don't do that shit.

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  36. I checked the link and it went straight through for me. Vortex.

    must be where all the sox runs went. Maybe they've already been scored and will suddenly pop out of the wormhole and onto the board...like Bill and Ted with Hermione's time turner or something.

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  37. Yes, now the link works.

    Oh no, what's this. I know what it is.

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  38. 2-run dongs are in fashion this weekend.

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  39. When we win the WS this year, we're gonna remember this terrible April and wonder at the craziness of this game.

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  40. I might just become a Natinals fan yet.

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  41. they are coming back, down 10-5 now.

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  42. tek met the devil at the crossroads.

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  43. Hi, all. Watched for a bit earlier, but could not stand to see another blow out. Went out, came back. Dare I turn on the TV?

    This is sure a sad start to the season.

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  44. OK, sorry I turned that on. God damn it. What happened to our great pitching staff and defense? I know we were told not to expect much from the bats, but WTF??

    I think I am feeling too negative to thread these days, but had to vent. I apologize ahead of time. No need to scold me. I will go away and vent to myself.

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  45. wow.. they actually turned it.

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  46. just a bad few days.

    after this game, we have 92.6% of the season to go.

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  47. jesus - a weekend to forget.

    The Lost Weekend

    maybe we should start doing movie titles for games and series now.

    I mean, not right now. Another time when we aren't sinking into despair.

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  48. It's funny but I am so not worried about the sox this year at all. I am confident they will come around and be the great team we all know they are. It's just a matter of time. It's only April after all.

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  49. "tek met the devil at the crossroads"

    Why are the rest of us singing the blues?

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  50. "tek met the devil at the crossroads"

    It's true--but, on the other hand, why are the rest of us singing the blues?

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  51. Blogger bobbled that easy grounder, sorry about the double post...

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  52. ughhhhly. jesus man.

    the most annoying thing to me is pete abraham. he is constantly posting all these 'you sox fans are amazingly negative and bitter' and 'the sky is not falling' posts...but then EVERY TIME we play like shit, he totally stirs the pot, posting shit like 'looks like they just sucked again. no surprise there'

    he's a pretty miserable douchebag if you ask me.

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  53. It's officially a slow start.. maybe the pink hats will jump off the bandwagon and regular fans will be able to afford tickets again

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  54. Lord, I don't want to be a stupid, reactionary fan, but some runs would be really nice.

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  55. That is not overreacting. Runs are always nice.

    Saying the season is shot, Theo is an idiot, they should shitcan half the team, and etc. etc. -- that is overreacting.

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  56. just updated my blogger profile.

    not trying to plug anything here, and since this is virtually the only place i post comments, doesnt make much sense to keep the biz name.


    with success comes popularity..so wishing for the 'pinkhats' to leave is kind of backwards...


    -andy, truly good.

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  57. though the logo will help us keep it all straight. plus trulygood may not be posting about making sweet sweet love to half the team.

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  58. hahah. is that what the other andy does?

    yikes

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  59. Sorry. Not been about as laptop still awaiting resurrection. Maybe some volcanic ash got into the works..

    Wonder how much flights are to Toronto?

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  60. Perhaps we will look better tomorrow, Patriots Day and take at least one game in this series

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  61. Huh, maybe we won't get shut out!

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  62. the season is shot, Theo is an idiot, they should shitcan half the team, and etc. etc.

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  63. Hey, Lord, are you all covered with a black cloud out there? Can you see the effects of this generally? It looks and sounds dreadful.

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  64. And nope, still a shut out. ARGGHH

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  65. Hi,new Andy. You sound like you might be Andy's good twin!

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  66. Amy. Absolutely nothing. Glorious spring weather, lovely and sunny, beautiful April.... that's the only odd thing..we had snow two years ago!

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  67. Glad to hear it, Lord. Hope the air clears up for the airports soon.

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  68. Gabe Kapler! Still playing ball after his retirement two years ago!

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  69. He does not look as big as he did when he played for the Sox. Hmm.

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  70. whoops! I had a non-negative post written to follow up that one, but I never clicked it in before I got up.

    I see, however, they didn't fulfill my prognostications. Nickadamus I am not.

    "scored 6 allowed 700".

    It's the 700 club.

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  71. Three outs to get seven runs.

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  72. Allan must be busy---comments not coming through.

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  73. Can we please score ONE run? PLEASE.

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  74. No problem, Allan. I am sure you are busy figuring out what you can possibly say about this game and the last four.

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  75. what is there to say?

    bad pitching
    bad hitting
    bad baserunning
    bad fielding
    bad third base coaching

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  76. San Francisco Red Sox Fan said...
    It's funny but I am so not worried about the sox this year at all. I am confident they will come around and be the great team we all know they are.



    Please let me know why you think that right now, I need to be talked off the ledge.....

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  77. Damn, are we sucking AGAIN!?

    Oh well, maybe I'll just go back out and battle the weeds some more.

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  78. Yeah, but apart from all that, Allan, we're stylin.'

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  79. i knew pedroia'd come throuh.

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  80. LOL, Allan, your comment preceded mine, but it won't seem that way!

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  81. So here's my question. Are we losing because of poor luck, poor pitching, poor fielding, or or poor hitting? Or all of the above.

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  82. ... yup, just a few tweeks here and there and we'll be set.

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  83. Weeds sound good, SoSock. Or maybe just some weed.

    I am going to make dinner and hope that an 11 am game changes things around tomorrow.

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  84. OK, I've read enough of the thread t know we're way behind. Don't even want to bother taking the time to open up the Gameday window, it seems.
    Just what is the score now?

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  85. I have to face a half-dozen leering MFY fans tomorrow. Sheesh.

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  86. OK, now I see. It's a final.
    Kinda sux.
    News from the LL front is not as bad. We've won 3 straight after dropping our first game. Yay!
    Yesterday I referred to my SS as Laser Larry after 2 smoking line drives in a row over the shortstop's head. He said "Laser?". I said - "yeah, that's we call Dustin Pedroia on the blogsite I follow, because he shoots laser shots around the stadium. Either that or F...., um, uh, nevermind. Nice hit kid!"."

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  87. John, I live with one. Well, he is leering or obnoxious. Just quietly gloating.

    And SoSock, it's over. We lost. 7-1.

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  88. I see the thread picked up after I left. I won't take it personally.

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  89. maybe the pink hats will jump off the bandwagon and regular fans will be able to afford tickets again

    So after a whole bunch of losses in a row, they lower ticket prices? Cool!

    PS This "pink hat" thing that I keep hearing seems sexist to me. I'm pretty sure men don't wear pink baseball caps - but plenty of bandwagoners are male. Not saying gojohn meant to be sexist, I've heard this from lots of people. Funny how the "bad" fans are wearing pink.

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  90. It's funny but I am so not worried about the sox this year at all. I am confident they will come around and be the great team we all know they are. It's just a matter of time. It's only April after all.

    Only mid-April at that.

    I hate all the losing - who doesn't - but I'm not worried either. I'm amazed that people actually worry this early.

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  91. I happen to like the pink hats, and Maddy wears one. She is no bandwagoner, having been a Sox fan for her whole life.

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  92. We mostly bitched and moaned, Laura. You wouldn't have liked it.

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  93. I think that started when Pedroia asked/texted Millar if he was bringing his glasses for the laser show later that night.

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  94. We mostly bitched and moaned, Laura. You wouldn't have liked it.

    I was here and reading, I just couldn't comment. I was moaning too. It's moan-worthy!

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  95. with success comes popularity..so wishing for the 'pinkhats' to leave is kind of backwards...

    Indeed. I wonder at the vehemence of the hatred some have towards new fans and bandwagoners (not necessarily the same thing). Would they rather be fans of perpetual losers, so all the fans could be "pure"?

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  96. L-girl said...

    Indeed. I wonder at the vehemence of the hatred some have towards new fans and bandwagoners (not necessarily the same thing). Would they rather be fans of perpetual losers, so all the fans could be "pure"?


    Yeah I agree. there are always different degree of fans in everything , wheter it is sports, music , or restaurants.....I love the Red Sox and consider myself a huge fan , but can't remeber every pitch of the'04 playoff series', some here can. Does that make them a better fan? I like U2 , but have friends who are goo goo gaa gaa over them. Some people have lives that don't give them the time they need to become a huge fan .


    And for the Pink Hats comment from ,from gojohn.They are not the reason the "regular" fans cant get tickets...and who exactly are the Pink Hats are they like Teabaggers?

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  97. 9Casey, you're so smart (especially when you agree with me ;) ).

    But it's true about everything, there are all levels of fan-ness. When I used to watch women's college basketball, I would really only pay attention during the playoffs. I used to think I wasn't "entitled" to claim a team or get into it, because I wasn't all-out like I am about baseball. Allan told me this was ridiculous - and he was right.

    The people who scoff at the "pinkhats" may have other interests that they're less than fanatical about.

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  98. 9C, I did laugh out loud at your confession about not remembering every pitch of the 04 Series! If my loyalty or affection for the team depended on how many details or players or statistics I can remember about any season, I would long ago have been booed off the blog (and some probably DO feel that way).

    A fan is a fan is a fan. I was once a Met fan, Laura was once a you-know-who fan. Times change, loyalties change, teams change, players change. Big deal.

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  99. (and some probably DO feel that way).

    They'd better not!!! :)

    A fan is a fan is a fan. I was once a Met fan, Laura was once a you-know-who fan.

    I also find it weird how people belittle other people for being fans of a certain team. "Nyah nyah, your team's a bunch of losers!" So you want me to give up on the team because they're losing...? Would that improve my standing with you? If anything, cheering for a losing team should earn respect.

    When I was a you-know-what fan, and certain people (NOT Allan) would rag on me for that, I would say, I grew up in New York, and this is the team that I went to see and watched on TV. What am I supposed to do, pick a random team to root for? It's my team, what am I supposed to do?

    I understand hating the team, hating the uniform. But I do not understand hating fans.

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  100. L-girl said...

    I understand hating the team, hating the uniform. But I do not understand hating fans.



    I agree with you , again.....
    Without yankee fans my exsistence as a Red Sock fan would have no meaning....I have said it before my best friends are yankee fans, my best man is a yankee fan. I know Allan is not a big fan of yankee fans commenting at times when they step over the line he blocks them, but i believe last season there was one who respectful ,and some got on him pretty quick. In my opinion it is fun to converse with someone not on your side, shit, what would MSNBC do without Fox.

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  101. Allan always allows NYY commenters here as long as they're polite. Inevitably they stop being polite and get banned.

    I don't allow right-wing comments on my blog, because I don't want my blog to be a war zone, and because it's my space, for people and views I respect. You say Fox and MSNBC - but those are two separate places. There are plenty of right-wing blogs - they don't need my blog to sound off.

    Some people like listening to people scream at each other. I don't. And when NYY fans come around, that's usually where it's headed.

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  102. I know Allan is not a big fan of yankee fans commenting at times when they step over the line he blocks them

    The main problem is that they cannot remain civil. They flip out eventually; maybe a week, maybe 6 months, but it *always* happens. And when I ban them, then the real nasty shit comes out, stuff they were struggling to hold inside before.

    i believe last season there was one who respectful ,and some got on him pretty quick

    I think I know who you are talking about and he got a LOT of rope and still hung himself. Then of course he flew totally off the handle. And by the way still tries to comment with the usual childish trash talk.

    In my opinion it is fun to converse with someone not on your side, shit, what would MSNBC do without Fox.

    They'd put out the same right-wing propaganda they do now! They are on the same side, they are ALL on the same side!

    The problem with MFY fans commenting is they are unable to understand that practically no one here wants to discuss NYY minutia. And so it never works out long-term.

    Fortunately, there are a few other places out there where fans of opposing teams can get into it with each other!

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  103. I understand hating the team, hating the uniform. But I do not understand hating fans.

    Yah, obviously that would NOT work for me!

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  104. In my opinion it is fun to converse with someone not on your side, shit, what would MSNBC do without Fox.

    They'd put out the same right-wing propaganda they do now! They are on the same side, they are ALL on the same side!


    I was going to say that, but I didn't want to appear argumentative (thought I should just reply to 9C's point). So thank you for doing that for me! :)

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  105. I think I know who you are talking about and he got a LOT of rope and still hung himself.

    I don't know if this one followed the same pattern, but they often try to kiss up to Allan while singling me out for hatred. All the time swearing they are being respectful and have done nothing wrong.

    Then of course it's your blog sucks and no one reads it anyway...

    This is such an old pattern we see it coming a mile away.

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  106. I think that might have been taken in different way then I thought it would.

    You 2 now better than anybody on this blog, that in the beginning I didn't always agree with your point of views , but they did open my closed mind to a different side. And that has helped me in my life to be more tolerant of others and their opnions.

    To get caught up with my statement about the yankee fans on this blog, I believe was taken the wrong way.. In my life , on a daily basis, the bickering we do with each other is all done in fun , it is baseball we are talking about , just a break from real life for a little bit....I never saw the banned comments , so I can't comment on them either way, I use your judgement for that , and trust that judgement.



    redsock said...

    Fortunately, there are a few other places out there where fans of opposing teams can get into it with each other!



    I am assuming the ! is telling me "if you don't like it here, then......"

    I hope that is not the case.......but if is, then it is..


    and by using the Fox and MSNBC comparison, I wasn't going for a political viewpoint, more just that they compete against each other and are very vocal about it. I could of used the Joker and Batman to get the same effect, but I didn't...

    To think I was trying to be compative in any way would be wrong..I think you both know that I am not that deep.....

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  107. I am assuming the ! is telling me "if you don't like it here, then......" I hope that is not the case.......but if is, then it is..

    Totally not the case at all. I'm just saying there are lots of places for all types of discourse. Some bloggers revel in the rock-'em-sock-'em arguments, but not me. Other places frown on swearing. JoS says fuck that shit.

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  108. No I didn't mean to be sexist or hateful, was just trying to be funny. And I'd like to take my family to a Red Sox game without having to save up all year to do so.

    Indeed. I wonder at the vehemence of the hatred some have towards new fans and bandwagoners (not necessarily the same thing). Would they rather be fans of perpetual losers, so all the fans could be "pure"?

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