Red Sox - 010 204 001 - 8 10 0
Phillies - 000 000 003 - 3 8 2
Wakefield: 8.0-5-1-2-1, 112Career Red Sox Win #176 for Wakefield. 17 more to go!
Halladay: 5.2-8-7-2-1, 99
Halladay was the victim of poor fielding in the early innings. In the second, Shane Victorino leapt at the wall in right center and had Kevin Youkilis's fly ball land in and then fall out of his glove. It was scored a triple. J.D. Drew's grounder to first gave Boston a 1-0 lead.
In the fourth, the Sox loaded the bases with one out and Adrian Beltre hit a routine grounder to Greg Dobbs at third. What should have been an inning-ending double play ended up rolling under Dobbs's glove, between his legs, and into left field. Two runs scored.
Halladay's control slipped in the sixth. He left several pitches up in the strike zone and the Red Sox pounced on just about all of them. Yook crushed a hanging curve* for a dong to start the inning (4-0). Drew doubled, Beltre singled, Marco Scutaro singled (5-0), and Jacoby Ellsbury singled (7-0).
* Youkilis saw 26 pitches in his first four PA (4-6-8-8). He flew out on the first pitch in the 9th.
Ellsbury's grounder up the middle was gloved by Phillies shortstop Juan Castro, who then whirled and fired the ball to third base, thinking he might catch Scutaro off-guard getting back to the base. Scutaro, however, had not stopped running from second, and he was halfway home already. Dobbs took the throw, but could do nothing. The score was 7-0 and Halladay was on his way to the showers.
Wakefield allowed only one runner past second base (Chase Utley's triple in the sixth). Only six of Wakefield's 24 outs were on the ground; the Phillies had six infield or foul pop-ups. With Wakefield at 102 pitches, Ramon Ramirez was told to finish it up. Ram2 allowed back-to-back doubles right away (8-1) and, with two outs, gave up a two-run home run to pinch-hitter Ross Gload (8-3).
The win put Red Sox at 24-21, three games over .500 for the first time this year. The Rays beat the Astros 10-6, so Boston remains 8.5 GB. The Blue Jays beat the Diamondbacks 12-4 and the Mets held off the Yankees 6-4. New York is 6 GB and Toronto is 7 GB.
Mr. Halladay seems to be thriving in the National League*. Nine starts, 1.64 ERA, lowest BB/9 in the league. Four of the nine starts have been complete games (he has more CG than every one of the other 29 MLB teams). And he has been at his best when runners are on base:Ellsbury, CF
Pedroia, 2B
Martinez, C
Youkilis, 1B
Drew, RF
Beltre, 3B
Hermida, LF
Scutaro, SS
Wakefield, P
AVG OBP SLG OPS* Though he's no Ubaldo Jimenez!
Empty .291 .305 .391 .696
Men On .181 .232 .241 .473
RATS .138 .219 .231 .450
Peter Abraham notes that Halladay has thrown 118+ pitches in each of his last four starts, including 132 against Pittsburgh on Tuesday. Looking at pitches thrown in the first nine starts of a season, 2010 tops Halladay's career (1,006 in 70.1 innings). Maybe he'll be tired today.
Also:
Rays / Astros, 2 PM
Blue Jays / Diamondbacks, 4 PM
Yankees / Mets, 8 PM
TBR ---
NYY 5.0
TOR 7.0
BOS 8.5
BAL 17.5
199 comments:
Shane Victorino CF
Greg Dobbs 3B
Chase Utley 2B
Ryan Howard 1B
Jayson Werth RF
Raul Ibanez LF
Juan Castro SS
Paul Hoover C
Roy Halladay P
Yesterday it was Polanco, today its Greg Dobbs who gets more at-bats than Utley, Howard and Werth. Sheesh...
Dobbs: .171/.256/.343
There is a boxer I see sometimes at the dog park whose name is Dobbs (or Mr. Dobbs). That's what I think of every time I hear this guy's name.
I'm ready to take the unlikely win.
Looks like Halladay is on his game, though I noticed he didn't hit his spots that well. In particular the 0-2 to Ells was out over the plate but Jacoby rolled over it anyway.
it's not like Halladay owns us
FY has been an automatic out for like week now..
Hell of a play by Beltre there.
at first look, I thought Beltre had a cigarette behind his ear
Where was that fourth pitch to Howard? Looked pretty good to me.
4.28 career ERA vs Sox
Log
"at first look, I thought Beltre had a cigarette behind his ear"
that would be amusing
The Phillies are wearing their alternate uniforms today
Doc has only a 14-14 record versus the Sox
Sweaty 3/4 dong! Uh-oh... hurt???
Oh fucking hell
YOUUUUUUK!!
Oh crap... I hope he's OK
oxygen! i need oxygen!
Doc has only a 14-14 record versus the Sox
Not because he hasn't pitched well. Because the Sox used to out-slug the Jays.
rammed his right knee into the bag at the end of his slide, then the ball bounced in and hit him in the left chest (he never saw it). jeez.
Doc has only a 14-14 record versus the Sox
oh, come on.
I wonder if we will insert Papi at 1st now?
YOOOUUUK!
That is all.
Shit Jose Lima died? He was a nice guy, someone I know of knew him.
Castig, Matt Stairs is from New Brunswick, not Newfoundland. Right country and general region, wrong province.
I guess it's not Lima Time anymore.
37 years old, fatal heart attack? Usually other factors involved when that happens. Very young.
Pedroia can't hit out of a paper bag right now, what's wrong with him?
FOX sports called it a "Massive heart attack". If it killed him, I'd think so.
I wonder who #36 for the Phillies was?
Pedroia can't hit out of a paper bag right now, what's wrong with him?
Slump. It happens.
FOX sports called it a "Massive heart attack". If it killed him, I'd think so.
Indeed. I wonder if/what he was using. I don't mean that in a blame-the-victim way at all. Just wondering what else, if anything, was involved.
Make them pay, Drew!
robin roberts, probably.
Are they wearing his number on their unis or something?
No double play, no double play, no double play....
Whoo-hoo! Thanks for the gift, Phillies D!
2 run E5!
Its my man Dobbs to the rescue! Beltre goes five hole and the Sox lead 3-0!
Keep chanting, Patrick!
now THAT is an error.
dobbsballa?
I'll just leave the dupe this time :)
This is why the NL style sucks.
Don't hurt yourself, Wake.
Single over the infield please?
Tekballa?
Side retired!
Hi, JOSers. Nice to see us ahead.
wow, down to .264
go astros
I have a question that I wonder about often that may seem obvious, but the obvious answer seems too obvious. Why do people often claim it is easier to pitch in the NL? I realize that they face 9 real hitters, but is that the only difference? Are there other differences aside from the DH issue that make it easier to pitch in the NL?
I've been doing surgery on my computer this morning. The beginning of this game has been fun to follow. The Halladay vs. Wakefield showdown with the bases loaded was pretty incredible.
Amy - right now its simply a difference in talent. That's pretty much it.
That's interesting, Mattymatty. Is that because there is more money in AL or has it just evolved that way in some natural way?
And for whatever reasons, each league supposedly has tendencies among all of its pitchers -- or maybe people generalize and it's not true -- so maybe the NL is more of a fastball hitting league, so if a pitcher has great secondary pitches, he can be more successful.
I've never understood why that situation would exist though. How can a whole league of hitters (or a big enough majority for it to be noticable) be so similar?
Why do people often claim it is easier to pitch in the NL?
I believe they are usually referring to the DH. Facing 8 hitters + the pitcher vs 9 hitters. Although few teams actually have 9 good hitters, but that's what they're talking about.
pc:
Halladay: 12-13-8 27-18 = 78
Wakefield: 17-14-11 14-7 = 63
For one, a lot of the worst GMs are manning teams in the NL...Astros, Mets, Giants, Pirates...
I also sometimes hear that the strike zone is different (bigger, I assume) in the NL. But I assume that is a matter of practice, not the rules.
YOUKKKKK!
YOOOOOOOOOOK
Sweat-powered!!!!
Yook = BEAST
a sweaty pitcher-destroying beast!
SWEATYYYYY
HUUUUGE SWEATY DONG!!
Youk is a freakin' god lately.
Re GMs, that may be true, but I doubt that is what most people are referring to when they talk about pitching in one league vs the other.
Drewble!
Yook + OnFire = cycle!
Keep em coming!
Amy was wondering why there might be a difference in talent between the two leagues.
back when the leagues were more separate and umps worked only one league and not both (they do both now, right?), the different zones were probably a factor.
I believe the perception that the AL has better hitting than the NL, or at least more power, has weakened in the last year or two. Less of a difference between them.
YES!! I like this!
I'm liking this.
Yay, Scoot.
Wake, no DP. Just whiff away.
Safe!
It would seem that if there was really an imbalance in talent that the NL would never win the WS. Of course, they generally do lose the ASG, but that is not a real game.
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT?
What the hell? Strange fielding there.
Thanks again Phillies!!!
7-0 against Halladay. I wouldn't have guessed.
Wow when was the last time Halladay got this many runs scored on him?
Welcome back to the AL, Roy.
So far this game would seem to be evidence of that imbalance!
I'm at the office, trying to get caught up on some work, but I'm watching on the iPhone.
Just dropped by to say...
YOOOUUUKKK!!!
et al.
Keep it up.
It would seem that if there was really an imbalance in talent that the NL would never win the WS.
Not really, because presumably you are then seeing best vs best, not average vs average.
I don't know if the common wisdom about pitching in each league is true, but the WS would not prove or disprove it.
Whoa, Nellie. I guess even Halladay has days like this.
someone could look at the AL's interleague W/L records
Maybe he was tired!
WS is also at most a 7 game series. Lots of variance.
Is that because there is more money in AL or has it just evolved that way in some natural way?
Sorry for the delayed response. There is more money in the AL (I read something yesterday that said the difference is the MFYs; if you take them out the money is the same), but that's not the whole difference. For those of you who have followed baseball for a long time you may recall that in the 80s the NL was thought to be the far better league. These things are cyclical.
Also, I do think there is something to the comment about the quality of the GMs. Good GMs bring good talent to their teams and there is a noticeable difference in the quality of the GMs between the leagues.
this team may be getting its shit together.
Great inning by the Sox.
Someone has.
According to Wikipedia, AL has won 1674 IL games vs. 1534 for the NL through 2009.
From 1997-2009 the AL won more IL games than NL teams in all but three seasons.
Theer have been 17 games in which Halladay has allowed at least 7 runs (does this link work?).
Last time was August 24, 2009 vs TBR. None in 2008. 3 times in 2007, including May 10 vs Red Sox.
Interesting piece, Micah. It seems to raise many of the same points raised here.
If Drew really cared, he'd be 8 feet tall.
This is only the 4th start of his career with at least 7 runs allowed and only 0 or 1 strikeouts.
He had 1 K today.
If Drew really cared, he'd be 8 feet tall.
We need a "thumbs up" emoticon.
God do we love Yook or what???
THAT'S DEFENSE, BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!
Come on, Don---Youk clearly had that one.
Also, I do think there is something to the comment about the quality of the GMs. Good GMs bring good talent to their teams and there is a noticeable difference in the quality of the GMs between the leagues.
Just to clarify, I didn't mean there's nothing to that. I meant... when broadcasters and others refer to it being more difficult to pitch in one league vs the other, they are not referring to that. I think the reflexive "it's harder to pitch in the AL" is mostly about the DH, and nothing deeper or more analytical than that. There might be more to it, but that's not what they mean.
FKR - 002
HOU - 40
pedro feliz had a 3-run dong for the astros off price in the 1st.
Yook seeing 26 pitches in 4 PAs.
So good to see LBJ back out there!
That's my boy!
So happy NOT to see Bill Hall out there.
Dice and myself are having a love child and we are calling him Wakefield.
85 for wake thru 7.
send him out for the 8th (top of philly order) and have someone up.
heidi talks to jamie moyer, who pitched in 1996. he talked about traditions in boston, like sweet caroline. did they do that 14 years ago?
looks like it was first played in 1998 (or maybe 1997) but did not become a "tradition" until 2002.
so it is questionable whether moyer ever heard it while with the sox.
I don't think they did SC in 1996, but you can't expect Jamie Moyer to know that.
Andy! Good to hear from you! How are you doing??
Shoulda swung away, Timmy.
K-FB for Wakefield
FKR - 002 0
HOU - 400 0
FG has our chance to win over 99.5%
Of course, you probably felt that.
And those FKRs tie it up
fuckin' fkr.
4-4 in Houston
...aaaaand those FKRs get the lead...
FKR takes lead 5-4
ramram up
anyone know how the astros are doing?
In 2000, my first year back in MA, they played Sweet Caroline only when they were ahead in the 8th.
But surely Moyer has been back to Fenway as a visitor during the modern era.
...aaaand the Astros tie it up....
looks like sox win #176 for wakefield.
17 to go!
...aaaand the Astros tie it up....
really?
Tito letting Wake go for the CG
really
102 pitches
probably depends on how wake feels and if tito wants to give someone an inning of work.
don notes that even in the announcement of mcdonald coming to the plate (now pinch-hitting for j.d. drew), drew gets booed!
Line drive double play please, let's get Timmy back out there before his fingertips have a chance to stiffen up.
hitting the runner with the throw has not meant an out for the last 145 years or so. sorry, philly.
don notes that even in the announcement of mcdonald coming to the plate (now pinch-hitting for j.d. drew), drew gets booed!
Ha ha, talk about a knee-jerk reaction. "We Hear Drew's Name We Must Boo"
This would be such a frustrating game to be on the other side of.
Weeee, fun!
Benjamin, you're so nice to think of that, but for once IT'S NOT US
When I saw a sox/orioles game earlier this year I was hoping for more of that reactionary booing for Julio Lugo.
aaaaaand the FKRs lead again....
wait, it's still tied??? My eyes must be fooling me.
oh there it is, 6-5, the TV was slow to make the change.
I guess we are safely enough ahead for Ramram. Let's see if he can avoid giving up any runs.
7-5 FKR
Would be so nice to preserve the shut out....
HEY RR: what did Amy just say!
This guy is so useless. Don't we have anything better in the minors?
Really? Rammy? Really? I was really liking that goose egg.
ramram must be anti-semitic, hatin' all those bagels on the board.
Patrick, are you doing Seth & Amy from SNL? :)
better yank him here.
Hey look, an out
i was expecting a walk. i suppose he gets a reprieve.
Wow, he got someone out.
I want a pitcher, not a glass of water.
thank you, ruiz.
we appreciate that.
TWO! One more, Ramram, one more.
manuel blowing his gload here in the 9th.
This shitty pitcher is making me thirsty.
?
Who do we have starting against TFRs?
You have GOT to be kidding me.
Could we just fucking end this game, pls
This is absolutely ridiculous. Are we just going to leave him in until they get within three runs so Pap can come in?
yeah, put it on a tee next time.
Allan, those two comments next to each other look a bit... odd. Not that there's anything wrong with it.
Save Situation, baby!
Maybe the National League can use him as a pitcher....
LOL, Laura.
Does this guy get paid to do this?
Sweaty water!
The water is Muddy!!!
No soup for RamRam.
OK, it's over. Dirty water in PA!
DIRTY
Yay Wake. Yay Dice. Yay Wins.
2 out of 3 from Philly...I'll take that any day. Now if we can do that down in Tampa?!
At least there wer no inherited runners credited to Wakefield.
Post-game ERAs
Wakefield: 4.44
Halladay: 2.22
FKR - 002 032 0
HOU - 400 010 0
TOR - 00
ARZ - 1
Hou gets a run in the 7th: TB 7-6
Revised.
FKR - 002 032 0
HOU - 400 010 1
TOR - 00
ARZ - 10
relentless rays now up 8-6.
TB 10-6, mid 8th.
FKR - 002 032 030 - 10 15 1
HOU - 400 010 100 - 6 10 2
Right now
TBR ---
NYY 5.5
TOR 7.5
BOS 8.5
BAL 18.5
&
TOR - 002 14
ARZ - 100 1
(jays still batting in 5th)
FLA - 412 011 310 - 13 18 0
CWS - 000 000 000 - 0 7 1
Runs in 7 of 9 innings!
Marlins had 1st/3rd with 1 out and bases loaded with 2 outs in 5th. They went in order (all K) in the 9th.
TOR - 002 153 100 - 12 17 0
ARZ - 100 110 001 - 4 10 2
NYY - 00
NYM - 0
Go Mets! 4-0.
NYY - 000
NYM - 040
Cora: 2-run single of CC
followed by
Bay: 2-run dong
Santana for the Stems
NYY - 000 00
NYM - 040 02
Another dong for Bay, solo this time!
mets 6-1, mid 8th.
let's go Mets!
frod - you suck, you stupid asshole.
fuckin tying run at the plate now.
just utter crap.
wow - that is impossible to call one way or the other!
fuck you, girardi.
super super slo mo = an exact tie!
why hasn't some mets fan gone on the field and kicked the shit out of frod?
the collective self-restraint of the fan base is remarkable.
why dont ya load the bases now? that sounds fun.
and manuel is too fuckin' stupid to maybe try another pitcher. ... or a position player.
and you KNOW if frod gets the final out, he'll go into hsi god dance/point. yay i allowed 3 runs and suck, thank you lord.
METS win.
frod allows 3 runs for the save!
NYY - 000 000 103 - 4 10 1
NYM - 040 020 00x - 6 11 0
MFY: 6 GB
Is Frod related to JTC?
redsock said...
and you KNOW if frod gets the final out, he'll go into hsi god dance/point. yay i allowed 3 runs and suck, thank you lord.
I see your frustration, but he did something our guy couldn't do a week ago...
For the yankees to go into Citi Field and lose 2-3 ,and almost the other, no could have predicted that , radio listening should be fun tommmorow...
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