July 29, 2011

G104: White Sox 3, Red Sox 1

Red Sox   - 001 000 000 - 1  3  0
White Sox - 000 001 20x - 3  3  0
Tim Wakefield (7-3-3-2-5, 101) did not get his 200th career win and Dustin Pedroia (0-for-4) did not extend his hitting streak to 26 games.

The Red Sox were held to only three hits and had only two runners past second base, one of whom was Jarrod Saltalamacchia, who homered in the third.

Pedroia grounded out to third in both the first and fourth innings. He grounded into a 6-4 fielder's choice in the sixth, and led off the ninth with a first-pitch fly-out to center fielder Alejandro De Aza in right-center.

After Salty's dong to start the third, Drew Sutton singled, but he was erased when Marco Scutaro grounded into a double play. Scutaro had the Sox's third hit of the night when he singled in the sixth with one out. Jacoby Ellsbury walked and was forced at second by FY. David Ortiz walked, loading the bases. Kevin Youkilis, trying to increase Boston's 1-0 lead, fell behind 0-2, worked the count back to 2-2 and took a pitch well off the outside corner for ball 3. However, plate umpire Rob Drake called it strike 3, ending the inning. Those three runners were the only men the Red Sox left on base tonight.

The pitch (the 5th of the PA) was not a strike.
The White Sox tied the game in their half of the inning on only five pitches. Juan Pierre bunted for a hit, was sacrificed to second, took third on a wild pitch, and scored on a sacrifice fly to left. In the seventh, A.J. Pierzynski broke the tie with hit a two-run homer.

After Youkilis was called out on strikes to end the sixth, the Red Sox went in order in the seventh, eighth, and ninth innings.
Example
Tim Wakefield / Gavin Floyd

Wakefield takes the hill in Chicago, hoping to become the 111th pitcher in baseball history to reach the 200-win mark. Wakefield has 185 wins for the Red Sox, and needs eight more to set a new franchise record.

Wakefield holds a number of Red Sox franchise records: innings pitched, games started, batters faced, hits allowed, walks allowed, home runs allowed, earned runs allowed, losses, wild pitches, and batters hit by pitch. Most of those are not accomplishments you would highlight on your resume, but that the downside of longevity.

Dustin Pedroia extended his hitting streak to 25 games last night with an eighth-inning home run. It was the 7th time during the streak (since June 29) Pedroia had his first hit of the game in the seventh inning or later. The streak-extending hits have come in his first plate appearance 9 times (including four of the last seven games), in his second PA 7 times, his third PA once, and his fourth PA 8 times. ... Just for fun: if Pedroia keeps his streak alive and plays in every game, he would break Joe DiMaggio's record of 56 games on August 31 (against the Yankees!).

AL East: Orioles/Yankees at 7 PM.

177 comments:

Patrick said...

and we all know that if you hit in 56 straight games it's an automatic MVP award, regardless of better seasons from anyone else (like Ted Williams)

laura k said...

Anyone who hits in 56 straight games should get an automatic whatever award. It's a fucking amazing thing to have done, regardless of the uniform worn by the man who did it.

allan said...

But if you hit in 56 straight games and your team finishes in fourth place, the streak gets downgraded to 36 games.

allan said...

Hitting streaks are more of an oddity than a measure of talent, and they give excessive importance to batting average -- rather than simply getting on base. Players usually hit very well during a lengthy streak, but you *could* hit only .200-.250, if you got one hit per game.

I have not read a lot about DiMaggio's streak, but I know a few of his hits (such as games 30 and 31) were most likely infield errors that were charitably called hits to keep the streak going.

(Note: I would expect modern official scorers to do the same thing if any player got over 40 games.)

allan said...

Ellsbury, CF
Pedroia, 2B
Gonzalez, 1B
Youkilis, 3B
Ortiz, DH
Crawford, LF
Reddick, RF
Saltalamacchia, C
Scutaro, SS

Pierre, LF
Vizquel, 3B
Konerko, 1B
Dunn, DH
Quentin, RF
Pierzynski, C
Ramirez, SS
De Aza, CF
Beckham, 2B

Peter Abraham expresses his love for the White Sox's home park, on Twitter:
"If there's ever another big fire in Chicago, hopefully this ballpark goes up first. ... I've never met one writer who likes it. Worst press box in the majors. No place treats media worse. ... It's dull and dingy."

Patrick said...

Anyone who hits in 56 straight games should get an automatic whatever award. It's a fucking amazing thing to have done, regardless of the uniform worn by the man who did it.

Agreed. I got nothing against him. I just think, as Allan pointed out, the oddity that is the long streak overshadowed a truly amazing season by Williams, and it's a damn shame.

Patrick said...

Although going over their stats again, I don't think Williams was the obvious winner.

Dimaggio's K% in '41 was 2!!!!!

allan said...

What is totally bizarre is that not only did DiMaggio have a statistically-rare 56-game hitting streak in MLB, but in 1933, when he was playing in the PCL (at age 18), he hit in 61 straight!

laura k said...

I've read all kinds of critiques about the DiMaggio hit streak, and I would find them more credible if they didn't seem tinged with NYY hatred and RS bitterness. As we know, after the 56-game streak, there was one game in which he didn't hit, then another hit streak. (I want to say 34 games, but I'm not positive and can't look it up right now.)

Observing other hit streaks we've seen that seem incredibly impressive, yet aren't even halfway to the 56 mark, it seems a bit much to say that a hit streak is not some measure of talent.

But if it's not a measure of talent for Joe D, then it's not for Pedroia either. Are we willing to say that?

My point is only that the bias is off the charts.

laura k said...

Which is not to say that TSW did not have an unfuckingbelieveable season in 1941. Only that I can understand why so many first-place votes went to DiMaggio.

laura k said...

Players usually hit very well during a lengthy streak, but you *could* hit only .200-.250, if you got one hit per game.

B-Ref says DiMag hit .408 during the streak.

allan said...

As we know, after the 56-game streak, there was one game in which he didn't hit, then another hit streak. (I want to say 34 games, but I'm not positive and can't look it up right now.)

Looks like it was only 16. When that streak was over, he was at .381.

139 games played
25 games with 0 hits (not counting 0-1 as a PH)
only 7 games with 0 H/0 BB

Out of curiosity:
TSW - 143 games played
23 starts with 0 hits
only 3 games with 0 H/0 BB!

allan said...

Three games in 1941 in which TSW did not get on base (hit or walk). That is crazy.

May 14 - Red Sox G22
June 29 (G2) - Red Sox G67
July 11 - Red Sox G75

From July 12 to September 28 (end of season), he hit .414/.591/.805 for an 1.396 OPS.

His batting average splits are hilarious!

April - .389
May - .436
June - .372
July - .429
August - .402
September - .397

1st half - .405
2nd half - .406

vs LHP - .426
vs RHP - .400

Home - .428
Road - .380

allan said...

The other amazing thing about DiMaggio's streak is that no one has ever really come close. Rose hit 44 in 1978. The 2nd best AL streak is George Sisler's 41 (more than two weeks shorter!!). In fact, in the modern era, there have been only three other guys with 40+ streaks (Rose in '78, Sisler in '22, and Cobb in '11).

I saw this:

"Did you know that during the first season (1988) of Star Trek: The Next Generation in an episode titled The Big Goodbye they mentioned that Joe DiMaggio's streak was broken by a shortstop named Buck Bokai of the London Kings in the year 2026?"

allan said...

1941 AL MVP
First Place Votes

Joe DiMaggio - 15
Ted Williams - 8
Thornton Lee - 1 (?????)

(He was a pitcher for the White Sox)

9casey said...

From the documentaries I have seen about Williams . I think he could have had the season he had and throw in the 56 game hitting streak for him and he still would not have won, as we all know he wasnt well liked with the media.


Did anyone watch the Jeter special on HBO. It showed a different side of Jeter no one ever sees, actually wasn't that bad...I have enjoyed all the sports HBO does especially when Liev Schreiber does the voice over, he does a great job. I am not a fan of NASCAR but the 24/7 series on Jimmy Johnson was really good.

laura k said...

9C makes an important point, you can't talk about Joe vs Ted without the media, and Ted didn't do himself any favours with his sunny disposition.

I can't believe I remembered that 2nd streak at 34, quite a bit from 16! Still, pretty crazy. As Allan said, no one has come close to challening it. I love the Star Trek bit.

laura k said...

Did anyone watch the Jeter special on HBO.

Why do I think Allan won't be adding that to our Zip list.

allan said...

Dunn, White Sox cleanup hitter;
.163/.297/.307

Recent post to BRef blog: "Adam Dunn and twice as many strikeouts as hits"

He has 49 hits and 130 K!

allan said...

Adrian Gonzalez is out with a stiff neck. Revised oatmeal:

Ellsbury, CF
Pedroia, 2B
Ortiz, DH
Youkilis, 1B
Reddick, RF
Crawford, LF
Saltalamacchia, C
Sutton, 3B
Scutaro, SS

laura k said...

NYY-Bal in rain delay. And NESN here, yay.

allan said...

MLBTV took a few pitches to connect. And right away, I hear Remy TALKING FORCEFULLY IN ALL CAPS ABOUT THE WHITE SOX DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

allan said...

The Pop-Up Inning.

laura k said...

How is Adam Dunn still in the majors?

allan said...

Don says Dunnis hitting

.029 vs LHP
.131 vs RHP

If so, how is his AVG .163?

allan said...

BRef: .203 vs RHP

Dunn vs LHP: 2-for-68!

allan said...

Dunn hitting .131 at home. Maybe I heard wrong. Or Don got his notes confused.

allan said...

Wake: OTT, FFS

laura k said...

Dunn hitting .131 at home. Maybe I heard wrong. Or Don got his notes confused.

I thought I heard he's hitting .131, period, and .067 against lefties. But I could have misheard.

allan said...

The White Sox better hope Dunn is not done. They signed him to a 4/56 deal last December:

2011: $12M
2012: $14M
2013: $15M
2014: $15M

Ouch.

allan said...

There goes the perfect game.
There goes the no-hitter.
There goes the shutout.

laura k said...

salTALA dong!

Amy said...

Yes! Salty!

Amy said...

I am happy to be here for a game and a thread!

laura k said...

Yay, Amy in the thread! Welcome back. :)

allan said...

Last Dunn post, to clarify:

He is hitting:
.203 vs RHP (not including K tonite)
.029 vs LHP (2-for-68)

allan said...

did nesn miss the first pitch here?

Amy said...

Thanks! I want to be here to share Wake's 200th win.

allan said...

I want Wakefield (and the bats in his starts) to get on a mega-roll so he can get the magical 193 in September.

allan said...

Yo Drake: Read your fucking rule book. If the batter does not make an attempt to get out of the way, he is NOT entitled to first base.

laura k said...

To clarify, Dunn is sucking.

Amy said...

What is 193?

laura k said...

If the batter does not make an attempt to get out of the way, he is NOT entitled to first base.

...unless he's on the Red Sox, then we don't care.

allan said...

That is when Wakefield sets a new team record for wins by a pitcher. Cy Young and Fat Billy have 192.

Amy said...

Oh, right! For some reason I was thinking 197.

allan said...

Oh, did I mention this? Earlier this year, I heard that MLB split up Joe West and Angel Hernandez, so they are not in the same umpiring crew anymore. Very quietly done. I think Joe Torre (who works for MLB now) had something to do with it. (I should search for a news story, but ...)

allan said...

I am always thinking that they both have 191, but it's 192.

meunier said...

One site I go on had the headline "Hideki Irabu commits Harry Carey"

allan said...

ozzie is a character.

laura k said...

Allan, you must be enjoying Don go on about how Ozzie is "good for the game".

allan said...

One site I go on had the headline "Hideki Irabu commits Harry Carey"

That sounds like it belongs on a story about Irabu's previous DUI.

You have a link? Because besides more than a hint of racism, it's usually spelled something like "hara-kiri".

Edward Lee said...

When did Wakefield start throwing a sinkerball?

allan said...

Is there any difference between Wakefield and any other pitcher when it comes to having it and losing it and getting it back?

Beckett yesterday was a perfect example of that. He was cruising, had a shitty 4th, then went back to dominating.

It seems to be something announcers just say without thinking about the actual words and their meaning.

laura k said...

I was wondering if any of the mainstream stories about his death would stupidly mention being Japanese as some kind of factor in suicide. I hope not.

[DUI, ha]

laura k said...

something announcers just say without thinking about the actual words and their meaning

. . .

allan said...

I like Ozzie now. He amuses me.

laura k said...

Now you like him? Next you'll be listening to Lite FM on the way home.

meunier said...

http://www.fark.com/comments/6428486/Former-Major-League-Pitcher-Commits-Harry-Caray

The mods deleted his name from the headline.

meunier said...

How many PO's does Vizquel have now?

allan said...

There is a clip somewhere of Harry Caray butchering Irabu's name (as he did for most names not "Smith"). MLB is very fast at getting clips taken down, so I can't find it quickly.

From one board, a Cubs fan recalls: One time WGN flashed the National League leading hitters on a graphic. It read: Tony Gywnn SD. Harry promptly said "Tony Gwynn of South Dakota" is leading the league. Steve Stone replied, "That's San Diego, Harry".

Amy said...

I think losing your knuckleball can have worse consequences than, for example, Beckett losing some control or speed, since a knuckleball that doesn't "knuckle" seems slow enough that I might be able to hit it.

OK not really, but you know what I mean.

laura k said...

I was thinking "committing Harry Carey" should mean butchering people's names or showing up to work drunk.

allan said...

Rats, Fark doesn't count as actual media.

Omar: 2 putouts, 5 assists

laura k said...

Well, it's Fark. It's meant to be snarky (or funny or stupid, depending on your POV).

allan said...

Maybe the knuck is special, I don't know. We have seen lots of pitchers have a shitty 1st or 2nd and settle down (Lackey has done that twice recently), or a pitcher who walks the bases loaded and then gets 3 quick outs.

It always bothers me when I hear it ... as does annc. saying that "he can throw all night" because his arm doesn't get tired. Wakefield has said the exact opposite a zillion times in his career, but still ...

meunier said...

/been on Fark since 2003

allan said...

OFF WAIVERS in 2009??????????

come on, don.

allan said...

5 innings played in 1:08.

allan said...

Thanks for the link. I was hoping it was a mainstream news site like Fox* or the Post or something.











*: not an actual source of news, i know, but ...

Amy said...

In Knocking at Heaven's Door, one of the minor league players who is profiled was a knuckleballer, and he talks about Wakefield as his mentor and how unusual it is for someone to be able to succeed as a knuckleball pitcher. Of course, the player in the book does not. Obviously it is an art and just as hard to master as other types of pitching.

Amy said...

BTW , I just finished Bottom of the 33rd. Great book.

meunier said...

Sutton .321 AVG! I wonder what his ROY chances are.

allan said...

I have the 33rd book from the library. I am more bouncing around it than reading it straight through.

I would like the audio that exists from the game to be released. (Though I don't think it is not the entire game.)

Amy said...

gets the bad news

allan said...

That's Charlie Zink, Amy. Who had a CRAZY debut (and only MLB game so far).

laura k said...

Great baseball reading. I'd like to read Knockin On Heaven's Door. I definitely wouldn't read the 33 inning game book, although I like hearing about it.

allan said...

Sutton .321 AVG! I wonder what his ROY chances are.

Just slightly better than mine.

Amy said...

I read it straight through, though at times I was a little bored. But overall it is an interesting book and not just about baseball. The two books together have really made me look at players who get called up from the minors for a few games very differently.

Which reminds me...what ever happened to Daniel Nava? He seemed to have a lot of potential, but he has disappeared.

It's hard to imagine these young men who dream of nothing but baseball and spend years in the minors and never get one game in the majors.

Amy said...

Right! Zink! You know how bad my memory is. :)

I read these books with no expectation of remembering any details but rather of getting some impressionistic sense of the non-MLB version of baseball.

allan said...

I am not sure that Nava had anything like "potential", but he could be a decent 5th outfielder (or 4th on a worse team), I suppose. He's back in PAW.

laura k said...

I read the cover info and flipped through Allan's library copy. It would have to be about more than baseball, I think that's expected. I like Dan Barry, though, he's always been a favourite of mine.

Amy said...

The 33 book is a lot more than a description of the game---it's really about all the various people and their dreams and their stories of reaching beyond their humble beginnings. Not just the players, but the fans, the batboys, the owner, etc. In some ways it is more a story of working class American than a story about baseball. IMHO.

laura k said...

look to third, look to first, doesn't throw to either venue

laura k said...

Amy, absolutely, that kind of book has to be that. See my comment above - I've looked through it and read the cover, etc.

Amy said...

I guess my impression of Nava was formed by the fact that he hit a grand slam in his first at bat with the Sox.

Kathryn said...

Hey Everyone. We just got back from college orientation in Philly. A good trip, but good to be home.

Heard the Salty dong on the radio. We had the homer White Sox announcers and they were funny, very blandly saying '1-0 Red Sox' immediately after he hit the ball.

allan said...

Yeah, you can't just tell the story of the actual game, because only weirdos like me will read it. Use the specialness of the game to highlight various stories.

I am also reading Baseball Codes, about the ever-changing unwritten rules and codes of conduct. It's VERY good.

Amy said...

I want some 2 out runs, please.

allan said...

First pitch, too!

allan said...

don: "big white sox crowd"

is that the crowd that has been doing HUGE "yooooooooooooooook" chants?

Amy said...

Baseball Codes, huh? I will have to look it up. THough I may have read my quota of baseball books for this summer. :) I must say that they have been a nice break from all the law stuff I have been reading.

SHIT, YOUK!

laura k said...

Nava: I think of that as the Shane Spencer syndrome.

Squanderrific!

Amy said...

Kat, where was orientation? Is this for your son who helped me with the Ipod stuff?

Amy said...

Going to google Shane Spencer.... be back soon.

allan said...

Strike 3 to Yook (pitch 5): HORSESHIT

laura k said...

Amy, I would have explained it. :)

He made a big splash hitting a whole bunch of HRs for NYY in September and October. Everyone thought he was going to be great. He was never that great again.

allan said...

Pierre: 16 for 28 in SB?
Wow - shitty

Amy said...

Oh, I vaguely remember him. I guess that's the point. :)

And he crossed the picket line during the strike. Boo!

allan said...

We had the homer White Sox announcers and they were funny, very blandly saying '1-0 Red Sox' immediately after he hit the ball.

That's better than the TV guys. Once when I was watching, they did not say a single word after a Boston dong. They just waited for the next batter to step in.

Amy said...

Damn, tied up.

laura k said...

Right! Not only a flash in the pan, a scab!

allan said...

You know who else was a '95 scab?

Cabin Mirror.

laura k said...

Both Spencer and Nava provided a lot of excitement, though! But for a short period of time.

Kathryn said...

Hmmm, I thought that looked like strike 3 to Youk, but maybe not.

Baseball Codes, sounds like a good one.

Shit..tie game.

Amy, yes. Jonny is headed to Drexel in the fall. He was accepted into their music industry program. It looks like a great city for him...and the right school with the right program. He is ready to start tomorrow!

Amy said...

Millar? That's disappointing.

laura k said...

I guess the 2004 WS Ring outweighs anything, even being a scab.

allan said...

Baseball Codes (Amazon)

I will likely post about it. At some point.

laura k said...

Kat, one my nieces just graduated from Drexel a few months ago. Too bad they didn't overlap.

I also went to school in Philadelphia.

Amy said...

Is he interested in the technical side? He seems to be quite technologically adept (but then what do I know?). Or is he a musician? Is this your first to go off to college?

laura k said...

I think the Baseball Codes book is an Allan kind of book, not a Kat or Amy kind of book. Just a hunch.

allan said...

Years ago, I wanted to go back and re-read the NY papers when the "replacement players" were in camp. I never got around to it.

laura k said...

He's a musician!

(which is not to say he's not technically inclinded - but we know he's a musician)

allan said...

List of 1995 players (not sure if it is complete)

Amy said...

That's your niece who is starting law school, right? She should be starting in two weeks! If she has any questions, tell her to contact me. Also, if she needs a contract in Boston, I can connect her with my daughter.

allan said...

Some:

No MLB experience before strike
Benny Agbayani
Brian Daubach
Brendan Donnelly
Cory Lidle
Kerry Ligtenberg
Lou Merloni
Kevin Millar
Shane Spencer

Had MLB experience before strike
Dennis "Oil Can" Boyd
Ken Oberkfell
Lenny Randle
Doug Sisk

Amy said...

OTT. DAMN.

Amy said...

Those are all the players who crossed the picket lines??

Kathryn said...

L...wow. It always amazes me how people in this world are connected. What did your niece major in? What school did you go to?

They were telling the group about Drexel Day at Citizen's Bank Park. It's pretty cool. They reserve the entire outfield for about 2000 students. Their a cappella group sings the National Anthem. And, a freshman gets to throw out the first pitch.

Amy said...

Never mind, I see the "some" now.

Sorry.

laura k said...

Amy, yes, that's her. Thank you so much, I will tell her.

I don't know if she ever thanked you or got back to you about your law school advice. She has been so overwhelmed - even with unbelievable amounts of support/help/money from home.

laura k said...

It's my niece whose middle name is now A NEW EXCUSE TO GO TO BOSTON. :)

Amy said...

That's ok, Laura. I know what it is like to be moving to a new city and starting law school. Been there, done that. Not sure I would have ever had time to respond to some unknown friend of my aunt!

meunier said...

GONE

Amy said...

NOT happy.

laura k said...

Oh fuckety

laura k said...

Thank you, Amy, that's generous of you.

Kat, I went to Penn, my niece was pre-law, which apparently is a major. It was not when I went to school, but it was at Drexel.

allan said...

Damn, it's the old Allan-goes-for-a-walk-and-a-dong-gets-hit play, but it's the other team this time.

Amy said...

We need to score some runs!

Kathryn said...

He is a musician, but doesn't want to concentrate on performance. Drexel has two music industry paths (technology or business)...

CRAP...Wake doesn't look too happy with that.

...he takes classes in both, but he is leaning toward technology. He is already producing and mixing at home.

Our daughter just graduated from college (William & Mary in Virginia), which is where my husband and I both went to school.

Amy said...

Allan, stop going for walks, please.

allan said...

we need at least 3 here to win and get the w for wake.

Amy said...

Oh, right---W&M! I forgot Mrs.GoTRibe!

Well, best of luck to your son. He sure was helpful to me! I'd like to hire him to answer all my computer questions since our IT department rarely can.

laura k said...

Ah, one of the senior women who watches the Sox every day and is having a birthday. I want to hear my name like that, 40 years from now.

allan said...

Allan, stop going for walks, please.

Yes, ma'am.

allan said...

Jery Remy = Willard Scott

9casey said...

Vizquel is 44, with a lifetime 273 ave. and over 2800 hits and 11 gold gloves. Is he a Hall of Famer?

Ozzie Smith is with a 260 ave. and 2400 hits and 13 gold gloves.

Kathryn said...

Runs for Wake, please.

L...We all know that Penn is a great school, but it also has a beautiful campus. We enjoyed walking around there.

Amy said...

Another OTT. Sigh.

Is the hitting streak on the line also? Oy.

laura k said...

That sounds like a great program.

allan said...

Totally on the line. He's leading off the 9th inning.

laura k said...

I still think of Kathryn as Mrs G. Like I still think of Rob as Ish.

johngoldfine said...

Coming in late, sorry. Also excellent is:

http://thebaseballcodes.com/

johngoldfine said...

Funny, laura, because I never think of you as l-girl any more.

Amy said...

OK, let's have Pedroia close the gap with a dong and make up the rest of the gap with the next three.

allan said...

Vizquel's batter comps:
1.Luis Aparicio (902) *
2.Rabbit Maranville (850) *
3.Ozzie Smith (844) *
4.Dave Concepcion (827)
5.Bill Dahlen (826)
6.Luke Appling (816) *
7.Pee Wee Reese (801) *
8.Nellie Fox (789) *
9.Bert Campaneris (778)
10.Herman Long (776)

* - HoF
(closer to 1000 is a better comp)

johngoldfine said...

I go back and forth with 'Allan' and 'Red Sock.'

laura k said...

It is a very nice campus. Allan and I were there in 2004, my first time back in decades.

The school, meh. It has a good reputation. I'm not sure it's a great school.

But whatever, it was long ago. I'm not very school spirited. :)

Amy said...

Ish will always be Ish to me. I don't even recognize his posts as his when they come from Rob.

But I have been able to convert Mrs G to Kathryn.

Amy said...

I never thought of Laura as L-girl or Allan as Redsock. Weird.

laura k said...

So L-girl has been left behind. Go figure.

Nellie Fox is one of my favourite Girls Team players.

laura k said...

I can't say I share the excitement about Wakefield's wins, but I really want FY's hit streak to continue!

Amy said...

It's funny that I was thinking of converting to a pseudonym before the season since most everyone else here had one. But then everyone converted to the real name (except SoSock, I guess) so I just figured for once in my life I was ahead of the curve!

laura k said...

He leads off... come on FY!!!

allan said...

BAL - 020 1
MFY - 000 0

Burnett doin' his thing.

Amy said...

Too late for Wake to get the W, so I am focused on FY. And a W for the team, of course.

laura k said...

There are still other nicknames - 9Casey, Poker Wolf, Maxwell Horse, Zenslinger, for a few.

Kathryn said...

And I am very school spirited. I know, you don't like to live in the past, right?

Funny, my husband and I were at a bar adjacent to Penn yesterday discussing what it would take for W&M to be in the same echelon as Penn.

Any excuse to go to Boston is a good one. Where is your niece going to law school?

Amy said...

So unless we tie it up...that's it for FY.

laura k said...

First pitch, FY?? Why???

allan said...

Gotta give FY an AB in the 11th.

laura k said...

Kat, I was never school spirited, including while I was in school. Just not my thing.

laura k said...

Oh, niece going to New England Law.

Kathryn said...

Crap, FY.

A great thing about Jon's program at Drexel (and all programs there) is the two job co-op placements he will have. He will work in the music industry during the summers after his soph & junior year.

Amy said...

True, lots of nicknames remain. But I figure I may as well be part of the avant garde for a change.

William and Mary and Penn are such different schools---one a top liberal arts small college, the other an Ivy League university. Like comparing apples and oranges. USNews doesn't even rate the two types together. Not that THOSE rankings mean a thing in reality.

Kathryn said...

Amy, he is a computer wiz. I'm glad he could help you out. Let me know if you need anything else:)

Amy said...

A fast game. But not a good one for the Sox.

laura k said...

Well sure, Amy, if you want to be avant garde, by all means. :)

Amy said...

Me in the avant garde: a first.

Kathryn said...

Amy...US News does rank them in the same category. W&M is usually around #30.

Amy said...

Clean water in the windy city. :(

allan said...

Shit.

Time: 2:09?

laura k said...

Clean. And fast!

Get em tomorrow.

Amy said...

Really? They don't rate W&M with the liberal arts colleges? Weird, no?

Kathryn said...

Boooooo, clean water.

Kathryn said...

Nope, they're a National University. I think because of the number of graduate degrees they offer, but I'm not sure about that. We are usually the smallest public school in the top tier.

Amy said...

Thanks, Kat. I also didn't realize that it was as big as it is (I just looked it up), so I guess having 5800 undergrads takes it out of the small college category. Live and learn!

Jere said...

Well I was getting ready to accuse Kevin Gregg of blowing a game to the Yanks just to fuck with us, be he gets out of it. Still 2.5.