July 13, 2007

G89: Blue Jays 6, Red Sox 5

MLBTV was blacked out for me at work tonight, so I followed along via Gameday.

Down by one in the 9th, the Sox had Lugo on second and Pedroia on first with one out and the bats they wanted at the plate -- Ortiz and Ramirez -- but tonight wasn't the night for heroics. Tiz flied to center and Manny flied out right.

Manny's two-run blast to left in the 1st gave Boston a 2-0 lead. In the third, Sexy Lips allowed four runs, but then the Sox got three in the home half of the inning, highlighted by Mike Lowell's two-run triple (!) to center.

Kyle Snyder ran into some trouble after two were gone in the 6th -- a walk to Vernon Wells and doubles by Reed Johnson and Alex Rios.

The Red Sox mustered only four hits over the final six innings.

Mike Timlin came out of the pen to end Snyder's mess and then he pitched the 7th and 8th. He retired all seven men he faced. In his last seven appearances, he's pitched 10.1 innings and allowed three hits, three walks and zero runs.

***

Shaun Marcum (3.62, 126 ERA+) / Julian Tavarez (4.97, 90 ERA+)

Lineups inside.

Redsox.com:
After contributing a month and a half of stellar starting pitching, Marcum ... allowed eight earned runs in 3.1 innings against the Cleveland Indians [last Saturday], as his ERA jumped from 2.86 to 3.62. He has yielded three earned runs in 15 career innings against the Red Sox.
More than half of those innings came in a start -- and 5-0 win -- last September 25: 8-2-0-1-10.

Looking at the box for that game, I see Doug Mirabelli saw 21 pitches in 3 PA (10-6-5, all strikeouts), five more than Kevin Youkilis (4-4-3-5) or David Ortiz (7-1-5-3) saw in 4 PA. Weird.

194 comments:

redsock said...

Drew, RF
Pedroia, 2B
Ortiz, DH
Ramirez, LF
Youkilis, 1B
Lowell, 3B
Varitek, C
Crisp, CF
Lugo, SS

Wells, CF
Johnson, LF
Rios, RF
Thomas, DH
Glaus, 3B
Overbay, 1B
Hill, 2B
Zaun, C
McDonald, SS

s1c said...

8 of his 15 innings was in that one game, and Mirabelli seeing more pitches is the odd little fact. What we should like is that as a starter this year Marcum gets Tim Wakefield like run support. 4.0 runs per game.

In his 7 no decisions and his loss as a starter the Jays have scored 8 runs in his 48 1/3 innings pitched.

redsock said...

New glossary entry: Ococ.

redsock said...

Ichiro won't be joining Dice in Boston -- he signed a 5/90 extension with Seattle.

L-girl said...

Buffyvision, re Manny's fielding: "It's never pretty out there, but he gets the job done. They put up with him defensively, because they love his bat."

STFU, you morons.

s1c said...

L-girl said...

STFU, you morons.

Since that seems to be a common comment among the non-nesn announcers maybe you should add that to the everybody drink!

also, well said.

redsock said...

MFY at 43-43, trying to get over .500.

Outside of that stretch where everyone thought they were "turning it around" -- June 13-22 -- they have not been over .500 since April 20, when they were 8-7.

They went 2 games over for the first time on June 14 (33-31). They have been 3 games over only once (June 17, 35-32).

We are 20 games over .500.

redsock said...

"It's never pretty out there, but he gets the job done."

Redsock on Buffy and Tabler:

"It's never pretty to listen to, but they get the job done -- i.e., they stay in the booth talking until the game is over."

s1c said...

MANNY being MANNY!!!!

phrenile said...

Ichiro Ortizuki singles to left again.

And Manny's back.

L-girl said...

MBM!!!!!

L-girl said...

YOOOOOK

redsock said...

MManny!

Or as they call him at Over The Monster:

Being!

s1c said...

Redsock - Hot topic on the big show today was trading Coco and a couple of minor leaguers to Cincy for Griffey. Does that make any sense to you?

Zenslinger said...

I don't care much for it. What's left on Griffey's contract - would this be a one-year rental? Would we hire someone to walk in front of him clearing banana peels?

Not to say it's would be a bad deal in terms of value, but to me it smells Yankeeish. Aging superstar and all.

L-girl said...

"also, well said."

thanks :)

yes, i'm quite the poet.

"It's never pretty to listen to, but they get the job done -- i.e., they stay in the booth talking until the game is over."

If only there was an announcer as good as Manny is a fielder...

L-girl said...

I agree re Yankeeish.

redsock said...

Seems lame. A lot would depend on the prospects, I guess.

I read that Lowell will not sign for only one year with anyone, so I say we say goodbye in November. We can't saddle ourselves with him for 2-3 years.

redsock said...

If only there was an announcer as good as Manny is a fielder...

Don's as good as Manny in LF.

We need someone who is as good as Manny is as a hitter.

redsock said...

Orsillo: He's got his quirks, can be annoying, says/does silly things, but is decent, and sometimes very good.

DO = MBM.

chris said...

Haha...nice throw home, lips

s1c said...

Butch Stearns is the one pushing this trade. His reasoning is that Papi isn't being Papi, Ellsbury is going to be the center fielder next year and that Griffey wants out of Cincy with his 9 mil contract for this year.

He also wants to include Bowdin(sp?), Lester or Bucholtz(sp?) and maybe Moss or Murphy.

The only way I would do it is if Ortiz went down for the season, and I would not trade Coco. How many spectacular catches has he made in critical situations this year that saved runs? At least 10, heck, he's probably done that just in Beckett's starts.

I also think that Bowdin and Bucholtz are untouchable.

L-girl said...

Buffy/Tabler: "The thing about the Red Sox lineup is that they all hit differently, you can't just go out there and pitch them all the same way."

redsock said...

If Stearns thinks that's a good deal for the Sox, I want some of what Stearns is smoking.

Actually, I want a LOT of it. And I want it RIGHT NOW!!!

Good god -- what a moron. It's like Theo calling up the Twins and saying we'll give you Mirabelli and Pineiro for Santana and Mauer.

redsock said...

Buffy/Tabler: "The thing about the Red Sox lineup is that they all hit differently, you can't just go out there and pitch them all the same way."

Buffy will make a dandy pitching coach one day.

It reminds me of a headline I saw linked somewhere, something like: "Health is key to Oakland's second half chances"

In other news:
"Health is key to Boston's second half chances"
"Health is key to Detroit's second half chances"
"Health is key to the Angels' second half chances"
"Health is key to Seattle's second half chances"
"Health is key to Cleveland's second half chances"

ETC.

s1c said...

Good god -- what a moron. It's like Theo calling up the Twins and saying we'll give you Mirabelli and Pineiro for Santana and Mauer.

What the twins won't go for that?

redsock said...

What the twins won't go for that?

If they are out of the wild card race, they might. Worth a call.

But Mauer might not be able to catch a knuckleball. Better not call. We don't want to have to make another trade to get Belly back again.

L-girl said...

After Manny's assist and a Jay thrown out at the plate, they repeated that Manny "doesn't look pretty out there".

Looked pretty to me! "Pretty pretty pretty pretty ... good."

redsock said...

NY: 001
TB: 03

Nice going, FBfO!

redsock said...

It ain't a fucking fashion show guys!

redsock said...

Hey Buffy:

Being 11 GB doesn't look too pretty either, does it?

Wanker.

redsock said...

I'll bet that was pretty!

L-girl said...

Mike's pretty!

s1c said...

Buffy/Tabler: "The thing about the Red Sox lineup is that they all hit differently, you can't just go out there and pitch them all the same way."

How about all of the starters for the sox are in the top 50 for pitches per plate appearance, with Lowell being the worst at 3.75 pitches per appearance.

Do you think they are patient?

redsock said...

Following along on Gameday -- Lowell got a triple????

That means a normal runner could have circled the bases twice, right?

redsock said...

How we doin' on style points now, motherfuckaaaahhhhhh?

L-girl said...

Here's something I agree with from the announcers, and one reason I love this team so much. It seems like they take full advantage of every opponent mistake - pounce all over it and wring it for all it's worth.

s1c said...

What's up with drew?

L-girl said...

Drew - has NESN said anything yet?

s1c said...

Nope

redsock said...

Just got to see Manny's HR on the NESN feed on Gameday's in-game highlights.

Maybe NESN is the archived game. I can check tomorrow.

L-girl said...

Did you know Lugo's BA has "slipped" to .201?

Jere said...

Tightness in right hamstring

s1c said...

MFY - 1
D Rays - 4 top of the 5th. OMG its the most amazing thing i've ever seen Roger has thrown 60 pitches in 4 innings.

9casey said...

Redsock said:
We can't saddle ourselves with him for 2-3 years.

Lowell got a triple????

That means a normal runner could have circled the bases twice, right?


Wow, Where is the love???????

For a guy with 66 rbi's

s1c said...

Lowell, two years for 16 mil.

Jere said...

High fly, deep center, hit wall, rolled back in. Possible ITPHR for, say, Coco.

(I don't think saying Lowell is slow is to not love him.... he is about the slowest man in baseball.)

redsock said...

Gameday says "injured leg".

redsock said...

I like Mike -- I never expected him to hit like he has -- but signing him for 2-3-4 years would not be a good business decision.

His comments sound like he wants to get more than 2 years.

s1c said...

Including tonight Tavarez in his last 5 starts - 25.1 IP, 5.61 ERA and 1.79 WHIP.

If Lester was pitching lights out for the PawSox?

Way to go Mikey!

Jere said...

My "tightness in right hamstring" comment was referring to Drew.

redsock said...

White Flag.

s1c said...

FBFO - 5.1 5 5 5 4 2 0 89-44 4.20

MFY - 1
TB - 5

top of the seventh.

redsock said...

TB 5-1 after 6.

Jere said...

Timlin will come through here. You can blame me if he doesn't.

L-girl said...

white flag

Jere said...

Will come through.

redsock said...

FBFO - 5.1 5 5 5 4 2

... and here's your check for one million dollars, Ace.

L-girl said...

nope, we'll blame him. or maybe tito. but not you, jere.

Jere said...

So I guess I can't get credit if he succeeds. Damn.

L-girl said...

he comes thru sometimes. even a stopped clock and all.

but he's still toast.

Jere said...

When! When he succeeds! And he did, sweet... Now runs!

redsock said...

That looked deep on Gameday.

s1c said...

Thank God for the Triangle and Crisp. Toast comes through.

redsock said...

He'll still have a chance to suck when Tito sends him out for the 7th.

Jere said...

Little shy of the track. Never a doubt for we who inexplicably have faith in him. NOt sarcasm there, I really don't know why I think he'll be fine, but I think he will help us in '07.

Jere said...

Not triangle, either, it was right to the ol' wagon gate.

L-girl said...

Nothing wrong with irrational faith. I have it for many people. But not White Flag. I can't stand the sight of him in a game.

L-girl said...

Foot race: Lowell, Mirabelli, Bengi Molina. Who wins? Does Lowell look speedy?

Jere said...

I want the type of guy he is on our side down the stretch. I think if he's truly healthy, he'll be able to help us out.

redsock said...

Foot race: Lowell, Mirabelli, Bengi Molina. Who wins?

Frank Thomas: "What about me?"

Jere said...

I swear, Lowell's shown me this year that there may be no slower player in the game.

Oh, and about Timlin, I meant "type of player," not "type of guy."

redsock said...

I want the type of guy he is on our side down the stretch.

Used up?
Ineffective?
Sucky?
Neo-Con?

???

Jere said...

Tough-ass pitcher. I don't think he's done.

9casey said...

L-girl said...
If I wish Mike Timlin has a hunting accident in the off-season, does that make me a bad person?

Just asking. Like, for information's sake.

Sat Sep 30,2006 10:52:00 PM


If nothing, she is consistent....:)

L-girl said...

i'd love to be wrong. but i'd love it even more if he were dfa'd.

redsock said...

Lowell's shown me this year that there may be no slower player in the game.

That's because he's lazy. Never hustles. Wears his hair in dreads --

Oh, wrong conversation.

s1c said...

Globe blog is saying that Donnelly felt tightness in his forearm while warming up in Lowell. Re-evaluation tomorrow.

redsock said...

Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:52:00 PM

Pretty sure you can't search comments -- you keeping a text file over there, 9?

L-girl said...

Not a fatal accident. Just something to end his pitching career. And the deer survives.

Jere said...

Google remembers comments....

L-girl said...

Maybe 9 has total recall. Unlike me who has no recall.

Jere said...

Assman in for NY (AL).

L-girl said...

2006???

Scary.

Jere said...

Maybe he's he living camera.

redsock said...

Google remembers ...

As does Pepperidge Farm.


...

who's hurt? iron mike?

L-girl said...

Lowell is slower than Molina???

(Sorry, Frank)

Jere said...

Pedroia has somethig in his eye.

L-girl said...

dusty has something in his eye

Jere said...

My favorite? A full bag.

L-girl said...

living camera, pretty freaky, eh?

s1c said...

I'm sorry, nobody is slower than Molina, any of the Molina's.

L-girl said...

don't don & jerry have a milano routine?

redsock said...

I wonder if the people who didn't want Lugo on the team because he may have hit his wife have any issues with Timlin, who has unabashedly supported the torture, rape and slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent people in Iraq?

Just a passing thought.

L-girl said...

but what other family has a son named yadda yadda?

L-girl said...

interesting thought

Jere said...

Look at that, 3-0 and he gets the guy. Join the Timlin brigade. Come hunt innocent deer with me and Mike!

redsock said...

Jere should bid on the 3-day hunting trip with Wakefield and White Flag.

L-girl said...

And then donate the money to PETA.

Jere said...

"I wonder if the people who didn't want Lugo on the team because he may have hit his wife have any issues with Timlin, who has unabashedly supported the torture, rape and slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent people in Iraq?"

Let alone the deer!!

redsock said...

Bengi Milano?

redsock said...

If Timlin went hunting Rob Deer, that might be worth watching. ... Step aside, Charlie Moore.

Jere said...

I was gonna say "Well, Timlin didn't actually do the killing, whereas Lugo did the beating." Then I remembered, had he killed people in Iraq, they would've liked him even more.

Jere said...

Funny you mention Rob Deer and I look up and Wily Mo's up---that was my little joke when we traded Arroyo for him: "We got robbed here (we got Rob Deer.)"

L-girl said...

WMP!! Super Genius!!

Jere said...

Wow, my girlfriend just came up with a good "today only" nickname: Dustin "my eye" Pedroia.

Jere said...

6-2 Rays after 7.

redsock said...

If he gets traded to the Royals, you can call him "Dust In The Wind".

L-girl said...

dustin my eye - nice!

s1c said...

traded to KC . . . dust in the wind

Ok, what are you guys drinking and where can I get some?

L-girl said...

if dusty gets traded to the royals, i quit!

L-girl said...

allan, you're not drinking at work, are you?

Jere said...

"If he gets traded to the Royals, you can call him "Dust In The Wind"."

That's Dustin Mohr...

redsock said...

i wish!

just being very quick-witted tonight.

redsock said...

I close my eyes ...

L-girl said...

6-4 tampa, not that i care. b2b hrs, posada & matsui.

who i don't call dumbo and shemp.

Jere said...

the moment's gone, Allan.

L-girl said...

" I close my eyes ..."

great, now i can sing that crap all night

redsock said...

From Gammons's latest ESPN column:

"This is really true: When Manny Ramirez gets custom-made clothing at a chic Boston store, when the tailor embroiders Ramirez's monogram, instead of his actual initials, Manny has "MBM" sewn into his shirts and jackets. Yup. Manny Being Manny."

redsock said...

Just remember boys and girls:

"Nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky."

redsock said...

More Timlin?

What the shit?

Jere said...

You see that Abreu flyout on Gameday? Looks like he could've been robbed. Satan Rays are three outs away.

I believe Pedro also doesn't call Posada Dumbo.

Jere said...

I can't vouch for Timlin beyond 1.3 innings. He's on his own now.

redsock said...

Sheffield says Torre treats black players differently from white players

Jere said...

That was about one big-boy step from the wall.

L-girl said...

Geez, even Jere has cut him loose. Tito, d'ya hear that?

L-girl said...

MBM-monogrammed clothes?! *Very* nice!

L-girl said...

As much as you might love to believe anything negative about Joe Torre, Gary Sheffield is not necessarily a credible source.

L-girl said...

From the same story Allan linked to above: "He also says that he never took steroids because "the bottom line is steroids is something you stick in your butt -- period." "

But Sheffield has already admitted steroid use.

And what's up with "stick in your butt"? Homophobic much?

redsock said...

I don't like him, but he's been getting a lot of outs lately.

Jere said...

2.3 perfect for my rightwing friend!

Winglin!

redsock said...

I know -- but more crap for Torre and the MFY to deal with is always fun.

L-girl said...

Wingnutlin?

L-girl said...

"I know -- but more crap for Torre and the MFY to deal with is always fun."

So I hear.

Jere said...

"I know -- but more crap for Torre and the MFY to deal with is always fun."

This is what I was trying to figure out how to say.

s1c said...

Who has the walk off for tonight?

Jere said...

Yanks one out from loss

L-girl said...

S1c, I was about to ask that re walkoff. Allan, does anyone have this game?

s1c said...

FBFO loses, Kazmir wins.

Jere said...

I'll take "Clemens loses to Devil Rays for 28 Million," Alex.

L-girl said...

"FBFO loses, Kazmir wins."

Kazmir has a great nickname in our house, but you have to sing it. Or whatever it's called when you try to imitate guitar chords without a guitar.

s1c said...

Well, will have to get the rest of this game on the radio as I go earn the dance lessons.

redsock said...

I'll take "Clemens loses to Devil Rays for 28 Million," Alex.

Excellent.

Kazmir is also known as Red Dot.

L-girl said...

Kazmir is also Red Dot. Jere should like that one.

redsock said...

Today is the only July date that went unpicked.

L-girl said...

"Well, will have to get the rest of this game on the radio as I go earn the dance lessons. "

Hmm. Does everyone understand that but me?

redsock said...

The Big Fellow is up 4th in the ninth.

L-girl said...

"Today is the only July date that went unpicked."

According to Murphy, we should see our first Papi walkoff tonight.

redsock said...

Before his start tonight, Fat Billy's ERA+ was 117. ... Same as Dice-K.

redsock said...

we should see our first Papi walkoff tonight

Okay by me. I'll come up with another contest.

Jere said...

Yeah, I've done all the usual nicknames for Kazmir. I'm trying to find the one on my blog that you mentioned, but I don't remember how I spelled "dun nuh nunt"

L-girl said...

they're usual, but that's why they're good. they're inevitable.

that's a tough thing to spell, duht-nuh-nuh.

redsock said...

Let's keep the Jays at 6.

L-girl said...

Jays at 6, yes indeedy.

L-girl said...

Lugo!!!! Yeah, baby!

redsock said...

Luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugo!

nick said...

Lugo giving that Papi walk-off a chance.

redsock said...

Accardo's about to find the missing WMPs.

Jere said...

Okay, L, I searched my whole blog but couldn't find where I called him "DUn nuh nun" or whatever--but you should like this one: http://letsgosox.blogspot.com/2006/07/thirdth-of-july.html

Jere said...

I always like it when Wily Mo limits his outs to one per at bat. We're good.

L-girl said...

Thanks Jere, I'll look right after Papi's walkoff.

L-girl said...

"I always like it when Wily Mo limits his outs to one per at bat."

:)

Jere said...

I felt HR for Dustin earlier, maybe he can keep Papi from having to come up at all.

L-girl said...

I'm all for Dusty being a hero. Go for it, little guy.

Jere said...

Jesus, he almost overslid that bag...

redsock said...

He pilfered the bag.

Jere said...

Little Lowe face on the pitcher there?

Jere said...

Yes! This guy's got total Lowe face. I like our chances considering which two major leaguers are coming up.

L-girl said...

Geez, it feels like October, not 11 games up in July.

redsock said...

Here we go!

redsock said...

Hope Accardo is wearing a diaper, yo.

Jere said...

Are you kidding me? Lugo doesn't tag up on that?

L-girl said...

OK Manny, your turn. Be Manny.

L-girl said...

"Are you kidding me? Lugo doesn't tag up on that? "

He got a hit and stole a base. I guess he doesn't want to push his luck.

But weird, yes.

nick said...

anti-climactic that one. Just glad not to see the double play.

Jere said...

I guess he wanted to make sure to score the tying run if it fell

L-girl said...

bah

ok, don't forget our theme song....

"Who cares? We're 11 games up!"

G'night all.

redsock said...

Poop.

redsock said...

10 games, actually.

Jays back in 2nd.

9casey said...

L-girl said...

But Sheffield has already admitted steroid use.

And what's up with "stick in your butt"? Homophobic much?


I think what he admitted to was rubbing cream somewhere..

And , I haven't seen the HBO show yet, but I think the but thing is his ignorance saying that if you take steriods you HAVE to shot them in your but, He is such an idiot and very angry....And trying to call Torre a racist.c'mon, and also Jeter wasn't black enough....And why does HBO do a story on him anyway , how is he signifigant in anyway for public commentary

Like Sheff isn't aware of the non-detecting HGH...which I heard rumors that a lot of a-list actors take this now, its the fountain of youth at like $10,000 /a month.....


And with recalling the Timlin thing , I remember vividly about L-girl and some feminist wetsuit taking out timlin from ythe hotel in the skydome.....the other quote was just the quickest when I found, I knew it was sept.

And redsock I got your Dustin in the wind joke , funny....kinda...:)


One last thing on Sheff from the GQ article:

“What I called is that you’re going to see more black faces, but there ain’t no English going to be coming out.....

Oh O.K.

s1c said...

"Well, will have to get the rest of this game on the radio as I go earn the dance lessons. "

Hmm. Does everyone understand that but me?


I had to leave to go to job number 2, which basically pays for the ball room dance lessons for the s1c-ette, and also pays for the flute lessons, the guitar lessons and basically everything else that a 16 year old daughter wants or needs to round out her life.

Jere said...

"I remember vividly about L-girl and some feminist wetsuit taking out timlin from ythe hotel in the skydome"

I've never understood a sentence less than I have this one. Please explain. Also, I'm starting a band called Feminist Wetsuit.

While trying to figure this all out, I noticed that the first definition of "feminist" (which was awesome, and I stopped reading there, as I'd guess there are some definitions I woudn't want to read...) on urban dictionary was from "laurie k." Is that L-girl?

"http://www.urbandictionary.com/author.php?author=laurie+k"

redsock said...

No, not her. She's Laura.

The wetsuit comment reminded me of a James Bond character coming out of the ocean with a cross-bow.

You're right -- good band name.

redsock said...

I think the but thing is his ignorance saying that if you take steriods you HAVE to shot them in your but

I agree. And that idiot wanted to sign with us. Thank Gdo that didn't happen!!!

Jere said...

It seemed like her writing style as well as something she might say. So when I saw something so close to Laura K as the author, I figured "laurie k" might be a secret "writin' definitions on websites" moniker (Ka-moniker?) of hers....

"We're Feminist Wetsuit from East St. Louis! 1! 2! 3! 4!..."

David Cho said...

185 (186 after I click Publish) comments!!!!!!

L-girl said...

I missed half the fun last night!

Thank gdo?! Feminist Wetsuit?! Ka-moniker? I love it. LOVE IT!

I wish I had defined feminist at Urban Dictionary, but I don't post there, and I would always post either as laura k (lower case) or L-girl (L upper case only). Just so you know.

L-girl said...

I love 9Casey's comments about Sheffield. Maybe Sheff's JoS nickname should be The Angry Idiot.

"What I called is that you're going to see more black faces, but there ain't no English going to be coming out...."

This is truly disgusting. It tops the one about Jeter not being "all the way black," which is bad enough.

L-girl said...

"I remember vividly about L-girl and some feminist wetsuit taking out timlin from ythe hotel in the skydome"

I believe this was me and dietcokegirl fantasizing about taking care of bidness.

L-girl said...

S1c, thanks for explaining. I knew it must have something to do with your heavily female household. :)

9casey said...

Jere said...


"We're Feminist Wetsuit from East St. Louis! 1! 2! 3! 4!..."


Fantastic........

redsock said...

but there ain't no English going to be coming out

what language is this?

s1c said...

...heavily female household. :)

Can I use the Sheffield logic here and blame all my problems on them? Of, course they would just kick my skinny behind if I did that, so its probably not wise LOL.

Well, got to go get some sleep.

Jere said...

I forgot to check back here for the end of this discussion. Gdo, I hate it when I do that.