Joe Mauer received more first place votes than FY (423-408), but Pedroia was named on 17% more ballots than anyone else and edged out Mauer in total points. Mauer, who also finished second in 2006, was left off the ballot by 27% of the voters.
The AL Top 10: Pedroia, Mauer, Grady Sizemore, Alex Rodriguez, Cliff Lee, Kevin Youkilis, Carlos Quentin, Josh Hamilton, Justin Morneau and Roy Halladay.
Jon Lester finished third in the Cy Young voting. Halladay was second and Lee ran away with the award (1164 first-place votes to Halladay's 296 and Lester's 16). Evan Longoria easily won Rookie of the Year and Joe Maddon cruised to the Manager of the Year award. Francona finished third in MoY.
In the NL voting:
For the third time in four years, Albert Pujols was the National League Most Valuable Player in the IBAs. ... Pujols received 84 percent of the first-place votes on the ballot this year and another seven percent placed him second. However, four percent of the voters mysteriously left Pujols off their ballots.
22 comments:
Fuck Yeah!
When do the MLB awards start coming out?
Add gold glove to FY's hardware collection. Youk did not win a gold glove. Carlos Pena won for 1B. The only Yankee to win a gold glove was Mike Mussina.
So refreshing not to see CI or Slappy on that list.
P - MIKE MUSSINA - YANKEES
C - JOE MAUER - TWINS
1ST - CARLOS PENA - RAYS
2ND - DUSTIN PEDROIA - RED SOX
3RD - ADRIAN BELTRE - MARINERS
SS - MICHAEL YOUNG - RANGERS
OF - TORII HUNTER - ANGELS
OF - GRADY SIZEMORE - INDIANS
OF - ICHIRO SUZUKI - MARINERS
Should have been youk for 1st and 3rd
Hey, I just finished a book called "Eyes Upside Down; Visionary Filmmakers and the Heritage of Emerson" which contended that the American avant-garde film tradition was largely an extension of Ralph Waldo Emerson's aesthetics, filtered through Gertrude Stein, John Cage, Charles Olson, and most importantly Walt Whitman. I didn't know much about Whitman until reading this book, and now I see quotes on my favorite Red Sox blog. What are the odds?
Also, it's a pretty awesome book, especially if you have any interest in filmmakers like Stan Brakhage, Abby Child, Hollis Frampton, Robert Beavers, Su Friedrich, Ernie Gehr, or Marie Menken.
Am I a bad fan if I'm happier the way 2008 has turned out than 2004?
Am I a bad fan if I'm happier the way 2008 has turned out than 2004?
Care to elaborate?
Care to elaborate?
Fuck "elaboration"!
2 Rules:
1. 2004 > any fucking year you can name, past or fucking future.
2. see rule 1.
Sorry, just USian politics.
In 2004, my sporting tribe won its gladiator contest but my political tribe lost its gladiator contest. In 2008, the two were reversed.
Phillies got to have both. Fucking Phillies.
phil said...
Sorry, just USian politics.
In 2004, my sporting tribe won its gladiator contest but my political tribe lost its gladiator contest. In 2008, the two were reversed.
How do the 2 relate...politcal tribe , sporting tribe , what the fuck are you talking about.....Gladiator contest= rich men with sticks and rich men with rich men.......
Phil I can't believe you actually equate baseball and politcs in the same reality or do you.....Or the fact that your happiness relys on either of them....
what ??
is your happiness really unaffected by such major things as: passionately following your favorite sporting team (perhaps your favorite HOBBY in general) and WHO THE PRESIDENT OF YOUR NATION IS??!
who knows maybe you were being sarcastic.
but the 2 definitely have some major parallels, a big one being being their impact on their observers' happiness
Phil I can't believe you actually equate baseball and politcs in the same reality or do you.....Or the fact that your happiness relys on either of them....
WTF?
You can call it "politics" but it's also known as the whole wide world around us, almost everything that happens. How can our mental and emotional states NOT be affected by it?
And I thought everyone here had their happiness affected by baseball to some extent - usually a large extent.
Baseball:
2004 > 2008
Everything else in the US:
2008 > 2004
But it's also possible I have no clue what 9C is talking about because I can't decipher his code.
Baseball has always been independent of everything else for me. Baseball helps me escape everything else for a few hours each day. It gives me something to follow, something to look forward to, etc. But looking back on a particular year, some people can put baseball and everything else together. I agree with L on this one.
Am I a bad fan if I'm happier the way 2008 has turned out than 2004?
Politics wouldn't affect your ability to be a fan of a sports team, so putting politics and baseball together when determining how well a calendar year went has nothing to do with being a fan. I think it's irrelevant. Although saying that means you think the victory in 2004 isn't enough to trump everything else that year. It did for me. I didn't have a good 2004 but the Red Sox helped me forget about all the bad things that happened in 2004.
Someone at SoSH posted a poll:
Obama Supporters: What made you happier?
Obama elected President: 52 - 16.88%
Sox winning the 2004 WS: 256 - 83.12%
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I wasn't speaking in code..I believe Ish knew exactly what I was talking about.
L-girl said...
WTF?
You can call it "politics" but it's also known as the whole wide world around us, almost everything that happens. How can our mental and emotional states NOT be affected by it?
And I thought everyone here had their happiness affected by baseball to some extent - usually a large extent.
Baseball:
2004 > 2008
Everything else in the US:
2008 > 2004
My happiness for baseball goes on every day of my life I love the game and the Red Sox.......
Everything else in the US 2008>2004
that has yet to be seen , we could have elected a 3yr old and people would be excited , but until things really change, we will not know the impact of this election, a great amount of faith has been given to one man, thats alot for him to live up to...At a current look at the world it can't get much worse for alot of people....
I wasn't speaking in code..I believe Ish knew exactly what I was talking about.
Well good for Ish, I sure don't know what you were talking about, still don't.
that has yet to be seen, we could have elected a 3yr old and people would be excited , but until things really change, we will not know the impact of this election,
I wasn't talking about that, 9C.
I don't even like Barack Obama. And I'm the last person to talk to about what change we can or cannot expect. If you're interested in my thoughts on that, you know where to find them.
However, an election that reflects the preference of the voting public, despite massive fraud and attempts to steal it, is way better than a stolen election.
And someone who at least says he's going to stop this useless war - giving the peace movement something to work with - is a whole lot better than the war criminals who started it and are continuing it.
And I'm damned happy that I got to see a person of colour in the White House in my lifetime. That's fucking great.
At a current look at the world it can't get much worse for alot of people....
Do you think anyone here actually thinks the world is suddenly better for those people? I can only repeat: WTF.
Casey, despite your claims, I haven't the slightest idea what you're on about. Not. A. Clue.
Phil I can't believe you actually equate baseball and politcs in the same reality or do you.....Or the fact that your happiness relys on either of them....
For the record, I'm re-reading this a few more times, and I still don't get it.
9C, instead of saying "I believe Ish knew exactly what I was talking about" why don't you translate for the 9Casey-challenged among us? I doubt I'm the only one.
I can't believe you actually equate baseball and politcs in the same reality or do you
Possible Translation: It's odd to give baseball the same seriousness as politics -- or perhaps the other way around.
.....Or the fact that your happiness relys on either of them....
Your happiness should not rely on whether the Red Sox win or whether your candidate wins. It needs to be based on more personal things.
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L, I'm sorry I am being quite confusing.....sometimes I have trouble writing down what I want to say...I was really just commenting on Phil's comment about 08 better than 04 , and thought he was comparing the election and baseball....I still think he was being crazy , by using words like gladiator and tribe.....I am sorry (and I am not being a smartass) if you don't get it, but I just don't get Phil comparing 08 and 04 we are in worse shape now then we were than as a nation and a world.....it sucked in 04 as well , but we did have a World Championship, so for that fleeting moment, for me, all was right with the world......
Thanks, 9Casey. In return, I wasn't trying to give you a hard time - I truly didn't know what you meant.
It's true, the US and the world are in worse shape in 2008 than they were in 2004. That's one of the reasons people are so happy about the results of 08.
That's what made Barack Obama so attractive to so many people. The way we are as a country and as a world in 2008, hope and change are very powerful messages. As far as I was concerned, I like Obama far more than I did McCain, but I was also most concerned with the legitimacy of the election itself.
The importance of what Obama and the new Congress will be able to do from here on out is huge, because even though things are in pretty bad shape, they can get a lot worse.
As far as I was concerned, I like Obama far more than I did McCain, but I was also most concerned with the legitimacy of the election itself.
I certainly agree.
One of the downsides to Obama's election is that now people will say, see, there was no fraud, and the problem will only grow. This time turnout was heavy enough to override fraud, but that won't always be the case.
Re Obama vs McCain, as I said elsewhere, I'm not a Democrat, but I'm not insane. No contest who was the better choice.
I'd better stop before I use up Allan's goodwill.
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