Red Sox - 421 702 011 - 18 23 0Let's go through the Red Sox lineup for this crazy game:
Orioles - 006 012 100 - 10 15 1
Ellsbury: 2-for-5 (7 PA), 2 walks, 4 runs*: Youkilis reached base in 13 consecutive plate appearances in this series, making outs in only his first at-bat on Friday and his last at-bat today. (The MLB record is 16, set by Ted Williams in 1957.)
Pedroia: 3-for-5, walk, 4 runs
Martinez: 5-for-6, double, 4 RBI
Youkilis*: 3-for-4, 2 walks, 2 runs, 2 RBI
Ortiz: 0-for-5, walk, RBI
Drew: 1-for-1, double, run, 3 RBI
Baldelli: 2-for-5, home run, 2 runs
Lowell: 3-for-6, double, run, 3 RBI
Reddick: 2-for-6, home run, 2 runs, 2 RBI
Lowrie: 2-for-5, walk, run, RBI
In the first four innings, the Red Sox had 32 plate appearances -- eight in both of the first and second innings, and 12 in the fourth. Boston set season-highs in runs and hits.
Buchholz (4-9-7-4-3, 76) was not sharp. After Boston grabbed a 7-0 lead, he allowed five hits and six runs in the third. He was pulled after the first three Orioles reached base in the fifth.
There were 372 pitches thrown in this game, 213 by the Orioles. Nine of the 10 pitchers allowed at least one run.
Redsox.com says Victor Martinez will be behind the plate this afternoon and Jason Bay will get the day off -- to rest what he called "a little humidity cramp" in his right hamstring.
J.D. Drew (sore right groin) may also spend another day on the bench.
I've been trying to move around, trying to get some blood going, just kind of seeing how it responds. ... It's aggravating. I feel like I was feeling good at the plate (11-for-his-last-25). That's one of the unfortunate things. When I hit that ball down the line [on Wednesday night], I just kind of felt it when I rounded first, and I knew right away that I was going to have to come out of that game. I didn't know whether I should stop the inning. Luckily, [Jason Varitek] hit the double in the gap. I could pretty much walk home.George Kottaras was put on the 15-day disabled list because of a lower back injury that he has been dealing with for roughly a month. He says he hurt it in batting practice.
When Josh Reddick, with the Sea Dogs in Pennsylvania, was told on Friday to pack his bags, he thought he had been traded or was being promoted to Pawtucket. He made his major league debut at Fenway Park later that evening.
Next week's starters: Jon Lester and Brad Penny in Tampa on Tuesday and Wednesday, followed by John Smoltz, Josh Beckett, Buchholz, and Lester in New York. Joba Chamberlain will open the four-game series for the Yankees.
Yankees/White Sox at 2 PM.
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How're the MFY doing?
Yankees just scored. They're up 6-4. Beurhle (sp?) is obviously imperfect today.
Is it really only the FOURTH inning after two hours?
Man, YOUK is some kind of locked in right now!
2 outs this inning were bullet line drives.
Like I just came in to the middle of a private conversation!
Sorry! I think it was continued from a few threads you had to miss.
When I do "SEE ALLAN???" it means Lyndon took a walk.
Stupid Buerhle. He used up all his good pitches before playing the Yankees.
:)
Is it really only the FOURTH inning after two hours?
Are there really 22 hits after four innings?
When you miss the beginning of some threadspeak, you never really catch up. I wasn't around when FUCK TRAIN was invented, and I never really know what it means.
Got it now. Like I said, I figured it was about LBJ!
Orioles PC thru 4: 135
Yes, I do sometimes feel out of the loop after missing a game thread or two. Luckily, I can always go back and try and catch up.
"Red Sox strand a pair."
booooooooooooo
When you miss the beginning of some threadspeak, you never really catch up. I wasn't around when FUCK TRAIN was invented, and I never really know what it means.
Well, what are you waiting for? Start rereading old threads...
Amy, good pitching may stop good hitting. Horrible pitching however does not.
BOS: 421 7
BAL: 006
MFY: 030 21
CWS: 004 0
36 minute wait for HH...DO, how about 36 minutes of the Sox scoring 7 runs?
Big Game Shields is having a... big game, I guess.
Yes, I do sometimes feel out of the loop after missing a game thread or two. Luckily, I can always go back and try and catch up.
Try missing a whole MONTH!
This phone jack 40 feet away from my computer actually seems to be working. I guess I can either call the phone company to get the office jack fixed or buy a whole lotta phone line and tape it to the ceiling.
there's that sexy curve!
Zorro tossed!
kirk ... getting upset
Amy, good pitching may stop good hitting. Horrible pitching however does not.
Yeah, that is obviously true. :)
But does weak pitching necessarily mean good hitting? And does good hitting ever outdo good pitching? Those seem to be the less clear questions.
HH likes 36 minute waits, apparently.
I don't think I said that clearly.
I think what I meant was: when the team you favor gets a lot of hits, we often say that our hitters are great. But when our pitcher gives up hits, we often blame the pitcher, not the strength of the other team's hitters. So does OK hitting outweight OK pitching or vice versa?
Going out for a while. Please do not give up runs, HH.
when the team you favor gets a lot of hits, we often say that our hitters are great. But when our pitcher gives up hits, we often blame the pitcher, not the strength of the other team's hitters.
I have often mentioned this to Allan. It's the essential hypocrisy of baseball fans.
we just matched our season-high hits: 17
we need a run.
Shit, no history tonight.
damn.
Today, rather.
Amy, it's complicated. there's a cliche that good pitching always will stop good hitting so I was joking about that but I don't really believe it. You definitely see cases where hitters hit good pitches or miss hanging curve balls.
It's some combination of good hitting and bad pitching always and you'd have to really analyze a game at a much deeper level than the average fan does to even start to know how much of each was involved in any given game.
Ofer, you finally on Israel time? :)
LAAAA already have 12 hits, btw.
uh-oh, baltimore dong, we're doomed again
I wonder if the Mariners regret trading Adam Jones.
depends if we think a certain pitcher "should" pitch well against us. if he "shouldn't", but does, then our bats suck.
I agree, Iridescence. It probably varies from batter to batter also even within a game. Pitchers pitch more effectively against certain batters. So each at bat is a different battle.
i'm not the only one who needs a better laptop.
I wonder how many times a starting pitcher got 14 runs of support through 4 innings and didn't get a W?
I can't believe it's 4:00.
MDC coming in
"Jscoby is "proactive" on the bases" that makes a lot of sense.
The first habit in the Seven Habits of Highly Effective Baserunners.
This game is a good example. Is HH pitching well or not? He has given up a ton of hits and runs. If we were losing, would we be saying that Baltimore's bats are hot or did HH suck?
OK, off to get some fresh air. Enjoy the game.
I wonder if the Mariners regret trading Adam Jones.
The Bedard trade was extremely awful the day it was done, and it's getting worse with time. Even if Bedard would've pitched well (or pitched most of the time) it would've been really bad.
Not sure who I'm more annoyed at. HH or Smoltz.
Wow, Sox and MFY in crazy slugfests.
HH? I vote "not good". I'd like to see fx data to see how he hit spots.
Though more than half their hits are from Roberts, who seems to always kill us, and Jones.
I feel like in 5-10 years the average depth into a game a starting pitcher will go would be around or under 5 innings.
The Bedard trade was extremely awful the day it was done, and it's getting worse with time. Even if Bedard would've pitched well (or pitched most of the time) it would've been really bad.
The Mariners' front office back in those days was just about the biggest train wreck in the majors. Man, they made some amazingly dumb moves. How much did they pay Carlos Silva?
One parting thought: maybe it's all up to the catcher!
:)
goddamn it mdc, you are up by 7.
pitch!
It's taken 2.5 hours to become an official game.
Why does reddick have gum on his hat?
Wait. Is that Reddick? I can't tell.
Someone has gum on their hat. That's not Kotchman is it?
Rookies often end up with gum on their hats.
Is my boy hot or is he hot? Those are your only choices!!!
Young pitchers are always a rollercoaster ride to watch even when they have great stuff.
Radio guys say Kotchman has gum on his cap.
FY foiling #49.
LOL nice to see the guys loose and goofing around.
Has anyone said it yet?
Make Tito apologize!
Yeah. Reddick was sitting next to Kotchman.
Smoltz put the gum on Kotchman's head. Took him about five minutes to realize what was going on. Everyone trying to keep a straight face.
Totally cool in a 14-7 ballgame.
I'm enjoying the Victor Martinez era.
I'm also enjoying the Casey Kotchman era.
He's batting a thousand when it comes to having gum put on his head.
Did we really trade Masterson and two other pitchers for a singles hitter?
/sarcasm
ho hum, 15-7
yook on for the fifth time -- second day in a row.
Yook has reached base in his last 13 PA!!!!
i was worried hendrickson had learned something about pitching with that quick fifth.
nope.
We hit into a DP and it barely matters.
Drew's injury is where I really liked Kotsay. 1B/OF. You don't know if Baldy can go everyday if need-be.
Luckily we have Junior FIRE who's a red dick.
Yook has reached base in his last 13 PA!!!!
What's the record?
Modern day record: 16, by Ted Williams in 1957 (6 hits, 9 BB, 1 HBP).
Modern day record: 16, by Ted Williams in 1957 (6 hits, 9 BB, 1 HBP).
Hah, I thought it might be Ted Williams or Barry Bonds.
I would have thought Barry Bonds would go that far with just walks.
Obie just said there have been no OTT innings yet today. Crazy!
L, I believe it.
Yook, this series:
Fri: F9, single, single, HR
Sat: BB, single, HR, single, single
Sun: single, BB, single, single, BB
That would be awesome to be paid by the pitch.
Make a lotta bread today.
here comes ram ram
I'm thinking we'll have a Saito sighting soon enough.
On MASN they keep talking about 3, 4 and 5-game hitting streaks...
Yook, this series:
Fri: F9, single, single, HR
Sat: BB, single, HR, single, single
Sun: single, BB, single, single, BB
That'll help the ol' OPS.
I looked. He's over 1.
This game has gone boring.
Orioles are trying to change that.
This is one of those games that, as a pitcher, I wonder if you come in and think how the hell can I actually pitch well today?
Still 5 combined hits shy of JoS1 game Tuesday night.
What's up with the White Sox? not doing their part so far...
MFY: 030 220 00
CWS: 004 000 0
This is one of those games that, as a pitcher, I wonder if you come in and think how the hell can I actually pitch well today?
Bard would K 4 in two perfect innings, if Tito let him pitch. But no real reason for that.
go sox of all colours
Cla Meredith... All girls team!
And all NH towns team!
work -- so it's headphones again. be gentle with me, mr. roberts.
They gave up one from the girls team - George Sherrill - and got another with Meredith.
Mr. Roberts: "Allan, this will only hurt a little."
OTT.
The 4-game public toilet series is gonna be huge!
Allan, do your blood pressure a favour, go for radio.
1st OTT inning
Turned on MFY radio... They're lauding Molina's pitch-calling. Now Fruitbat in for 4 outs,.
Bubblegum head in at 1B. Youk to 3rd. Lowell out.
Okay it's raining. Can we call the game now?
HA. RBI single for Quentin. 7-5. Corners for the Other Sox. Chris Getz batting.
Ooo. White Sox rallying.
'Bat escapes. 7-5 after 8 in ChiTown.
Dang, just one run.
Go bleached Sox! I'll never totally forgive you for 2005 but sweeping the MFY would help.
2005 was easier because of 2004 and knowing we went as far as we could. Plus there's nothing wrong with losing in the first round to the eventual WS champs.
Oh, c'mon, Orioles, you can't win. Give up!
This game's not over yet...
I'm the same as Ish re White Sox & 2005. Our 05 team was not good enough to win much.
I thought it was so cool that both teams' historic droughts were ended in consecutive years. 1918/2004 - 1917/2005.
True, 2005 didn't suck too bad as losing goes but I will always believe the Red Sox had the best team that year and the other Sox just got hot at the right time. Same as I will always believe the Sox were better than the Rays last year regardless of the result.
This game's not over yet...
The Orioles are actually trying to win!! :(
Damn, Yankees have a guy on third.
But that's the thing that makes a world champion team. Being good enough during the season to make the playoffs, then being hot in the playoffs.
Extra Mart! Again!
Milk-dud hit for the cycle.
Wow! Extra Mart AGAIN!!!
His final AB was a triple.
pedroia "to third ... and beyond"
the cycle, get the fuck out! wow.
I'm supposed to be working. Must concentrate on that before these JoS comments end up killing some corporate takeover.
How many combined hits are we up to now?
Mr. Thompson struck her on the side of the head with an oil lamp a cycle?! get the fuck out!
35 hits
but I will always believe the Red Sox had the best team that year and the other Sox just got hot at the right time. Same as I will always believe the Sox were better than the Rays last year regardless of the result.
That happens a lot in baseball.
I can see thinking that about the 2008 Red Sox but not the 2005 club.
Did anyone think on Tuesday night that we'd have another 35-hit combined game not even a week later? I didn't. Then again I was thinking about being at Fenway and such.
Happens a lot in other sports, too.
The Boston Bruins were the best team in the NHL's eastern conference this past season but was bounced out of the second round by the Carolina Hurricanes.
The Pittsburgh Penguins were floundering for much of the season, fired their coach, went on a run, and got especially hot in the playoffs and won the Stanley Cup.
8-5 Yankees. Cockbag.
So you guys let the Orioles score three runs while I was gone? Sheesh, how can I trust you?
I see we scored a few more also, so all is forgiven.
VMart, to Saito: "Hey, Takashi-san. What do you throw?"
Yeah,at least in baseball you don't have like half the teams in the league making the playoffs. I've always thought that was stupid in other sports.
Still, sucks to lose in general and to lose to a team that you think is worse than favorite team in particular.
I think Pittsburgh was the 6th seed. They would not have made the playoffs in MLB.
Amy doing her impersonation of Lord Lynch.
One thing that's interesting in hockey and basketball, compared to baseball, is the length of the playoffs.
Baseball teams play 162 regular season games, then play as many as 19 postseason games. 5-game DS, 7-game CS and WS.
Hockey and basketball have four 7-game rounds. A possible 28 games, and they only play 82 regular season games!
Yeah,at least in baseball you don't have like half the teams in the league making the playoffs. I've always thought that was stupid in other sports.
I'm old enough to remember when hockey had 21 teams and 16 of them made the playoffs. You'd have teams with records like 25-40-17 in the postseason!
Heh, I wasn't even thinking of the Lord.
Baldelli!!!
BALDY DONG! Love it!
damn you castig! stop making every fly out sound like a dong!!
Castig-be-damned.
7th PA for LBJ!
Yankees win.
Damn Yankees. But at least we lose no ground.
Yankees win.
They had to sooner or later.
They had to sooner or later.
That's exactly when we will re-take 1st place.
They had to sooner or later.
That's exactly when we will re-take 1st place.
At least the White Sox gave 'em tons of grief. I get tired of seeing everyone but the Red Sox rolling over for them.
A four hour game...not as bad as I would think with 28 runs and over 35 hits. Those first three were so long that I thought the game could go give hours.
I find it amusing how Red Sox fans can never admit that the Yankees might have a good team - ever. Even a decent team seems impossible for anyone to concede. Teams are always "rolling over" for them.
Pepe, not picking on you, it's standard Red Sox fan fare.
five hours
Definitely having typing issues today.
Water
Dirty water!
AT LAST: DIRTY WATER!
The water is Muddy!!!
And then Yankee fans can't ever convince themselves they don't have a good team.
So, to recap: Red Sox fans think the Yankees are never good. Yankee fans think the Yankees are always good, and will forever be good.
So, to recap: Red Sox fans think the Yankees are never good. Yankee fans think the Yankees are always good, and will forever be good.
Well, I do think the Yankees are good. I just think some teams cave in the face of the B.S. "Yankees Mystique" and let themselves get intimidated.
And then Yankee fans can't ever convince themselves they don't have a good team.
But you know, that's not necessarily a bad thing. It leads to arrogance, for sure, but it also gives you great optimism. Which is very enjoyable.
I just think some teams cave in the face of the B.S. "Yankees Mystique" and let themselves get intimidated.
I think that's more a fan phenomenon. That happened with some great Yankees teams like 1998, but I don't think the current NYYs are intimidating anyone.
OMG I just pasted that quote into a legal document. That is my cue to leave! See you all Tuesday - enjoy the off day. Holiday here in Canada, Red Sox must be feeling very Canuckish.
They should have a "good" team for the money they spend but NYY fans always act so shocked when the Yankees lose to anyone (The Yankees ALWAYS "choke" according to the NY press no one ever just legitimately beats them esp in the playoffs) . I think you are seeing a reverse reaction to that
At this point, looking forward to the Yankee series on Thursday, I'm not looking forward to the length of the games. As fun as Red Sox/Yankees games are, they're also fucking long.
OMG I just pasted that quote into a legal document. That is my cue to leave! See you all Tuesday - enjoy the off day. Holiday here in Canada, Red Sox must be feeling very Canuckish.
Hoo, boy, I'm not feeling very Canadian right now. What holiday is in early August? I'm in Banff for Labour Day. I hope it isn't *too* insane.
I'm outta here for five days! No snow, no snow, no snow.
"What holiday is in early August?"
It's a nameless "civic holiday" just basically an excuse for a long weekend.
Are you friggin kiddin me:
Tampa Bay Rays pitcher Matt Garza not suspended for throwing at Yankees first baseman Mark Teixeira
Just fined , admitted to throwing at him and no suspension, didn't Beckett get suspended for breathing on Abreu.....
The Yankees ALWAYS "choke" according to the NY press
According to the NY press??? How about according to most Red Sox fans?! Not for nothing Allan refers to them as the Chokers.
I think you are seeing a reverse reaction to that
Of course. It's always Red Sox fans counter-reaction. Never the other way around.
It's a perfect circle. There's no way to tell who is reacting to whom.
They should have a "good" team for the money they spend
Red Sox Fan Rule # 4.
Any admission that the Yankees might have a good team must be accompanied by a reference to payroll.
"Any admission that the Yankees might have a good team must be accompanied by a reference to payroll."
Because payroll is the main reason they almost always have a good team.
Their payroll in 2009 is $206,811,689. the 2nd highest in MLB (Mets) is $139,102,23 The median is $81,325,900.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p4ew-fwu2XT3cpPRtt9qIGw
With that kind of advantage Cashman would have to be totally incompetent not to put a good team on the field most of the time.
Cashman could pay Tampa Bay's entire Tampa Bay's entire $65,126,368 2009 payroll and still have more money than Minaya and every other GM in baseball left over to spend. Do you really think that's not a considerable advantage?
[The Red Sox are at $122,624,689 BTW.]
"According to the NY press??? How about according to most Red Sox fans?! Not for nothing Allan refers to them as the Chokers."
Well, Red Sox fans do it mainly I assume in reference to '04 which was pretty much the conventional definition of "choke", but many Yankees fans do it every year the Yankees don't win the World Championship. As though they have a right to expect that every year. Not all Yankee fans are like that, so sorry for stereotyping, but I just hate that team and everything it stands for. Always have and always will.
I can have respect for their individual players and some of their fans but as a group I hate them.
but I just hate that team and everything it stands for. Always have and always will.
Gee no kidding! :)
You and everyone else here. You've got plenty of company.
I don't doubt anything you're saying - I've been hearing it most of my life. I just find it amusing how both Yankees fans and Red Sox fans are so hypocritical, each accusing the other of what they themselves do all the time. And so it goes.
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