April 2, 2008

G4: Red Sox 5, Athletics 0

Red Sox   - 000 000 221 - 5 13  0
Athletics - 000 000 000 - 0 4 0
Strange game. Wasted scoring opportunities by the bushel full for both teams through six innings.

Lester (6-2.-3-0-3-3, 94) turned in a nice performance, much improved from last week. There were some rough patches -- he issued his three walks on four pitches each -- but Houdini was helped by three double plays -- in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th innings. Oakland got three hits and three walks off Lester, but got only one runner past first base.

After allowing a two-out single in the seventh, Bryan Corey came in to get the third out. Corey allowed a leadoff single in the 8th, but retired the next three A's, two by strikeout. Manny Delcarmen pitched a perfect 9th: 6-3, F7, 3U.

Harden struggled in the first, allowing a single to Pedroia and walking Yook and Tizzle. But he stopped the rally, fanning Manny and Lowell and getting Drew to ground to first. Once he was gone (5-4-0-4-6, 86), the Sox pounced.

The Sox left the bases loaded in the 6th, but finally scored in the 7th. Yook doubled to left center and Ortiz crushed a home run to right. Five straight singles to start the 8th (four of them to the exact same spot in left field off Lenny DiNardo) made it 4-0. Tek donged in the 9th for the final run.

In the 18 innings in Oakland, the A's scored only one run on seven hits.

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Jon Lester (44 ERA+) / Rich Harden (233 ERA+)
Pedroia, 2B
Youkilis, 1B
Ortiz, DH
Ramirez, LF
Lowell, 3B
Drew, RF
Varitek, C
Crisp, CF
Cora, SS
Einstein gives the Red Sox an extra LH bat against Haren.

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Jere said...

ish, in all honesty, the upper deck is almost completely empty. to say nothing of the lower deck.

ish said...

accardo, my friend. you're playing with fire.

redsock said...

nice fucking play, vernon.

jesus christ.

ish said...

I wonder how many fans who had just left and finds out of this rally are thinking, SHIT!

ish said...

Accardo missed right there. Barajas was looking for it a little further outside. But it was still a good, zippy pitch.

ish said...

Hershiser, on Barajas visiting the mound: "Barajas is gonna go with a verbal sign on this pitch."

Amy said...

WAIT! I think this is it. The First Thing's First headline!

YUP, that's it!! Punctuation turned me on to JOS. So only 4 days after the dong discussion. How odd is that?

Thanks, Allan, once again for your research.

ish said...

Triple play, plz.

Jere said...

playing with fire? It was a ground ball and a broken bat bloop!

Jere said...

those fans have gone to bed until October

Jere said...

come on triple play

Jere said...

sit down motherfucker. Clutch!

tim said...

I'm baaaaaaaaaaack. Disappointing that Bs lost in the silly shootout but at least they got a point and seem to be out of the March slump...

Baseball mode again...HGH up.

ish said...

I meant facing slappy with 0 out and two men on. playing with fire.

tim said...

Tim's blog of the day pick

Jokes.

tim said...

Truped.

Jere said...

perfect. Many fans surely thought dong. I love it.

Jere said...

My girlfriend calling Giambi a "psychotiv reptile"

tim said...

wooooooooooooo suck that mfy.

redsock said...

CHOKERS LOSE!!!!!!!!!!!

ish said...

That was a good B's game, though. I was really deflated at the end of it in that stupid shootout.

And the MFY looooooose.

Jere said...

woohoo! they're goin' Sinatra version? I bet they're gonna just do it every night for the final season

redsock said...

tim: that site is very funny. the writer just signed a book deal for $$$$$.

tim said...

Yeah, the OT was hella intense and they played well. Caught a lucky break with that goal that wasn't called a goal though and Thomas made some good saves. Oh well, gotta beat the Sens and Sabres now. I just want to see Ottawa out, I loathe them.

redsock said...

oh yeah i forgot

MAKE LIZA SING!

redsock said...

Amy: Once I saw it, I remember we had talked about it later on. But how/when did you find the blog? Was it about that time or were you lurking for awhile?

redsock said...

Red Sox on pace for 122 wins.
Yankees on pace for 81 wins.

Yankees on pace to finish 41 GB the Red Sox!

redsock said...

oooo, i'm seeing bruins highlights now.

ish said...

Carlos Beltran hit a ball in right field in Florida, off the top of the wall where the yellow line is. It was past the yellow line, a home run. The call was a home run. Then the umpires converged....... and called it a double.

9casey said...

What a disgrace Yankee stadium empty down 3 runs, granted it's cold here in the east , but down 3 runs and empty......disgraceful......My friend said he searched for tickets for tonight an many seats were available behind home plate.....at 355 a pop....

Jere i send a email off to Dicky Blumenthal......wondering how long mlb and stub hub are going to continue with "legalized scalping"....I am really suprised more people aren't pissed off about stub hub..

Amy said...

How I Found JOS

I was setting up Google as my home page with iGoogle. I set up a page just for sports and searched on Google for Red Sox sites. JOS came up so I added it to my sports home page. I was reading posts for at least a few months before I saw this one. Only after that did I discover game threads.

Somehow it felt like I was here all season, but it was actually only the last month of the regular season. It sure was lonely before then!

tim said...

Jere i send a email off to Dicky Blumenthal......wondering how long mlb and stub hub are going to continue with "legalized scalping"....I am really suprised more people aren't pissed off about stub hub..

Let me know about that as well. I'm really interested in this, MLB encouraging scalping. Stubhub charges a 15% commission too, so that probably causes people to naturally jack up the price even more. I just find it amazing that MLB endorses StubHub and the Sox endorse Ace Tickets.

redsock said...

I remember when we were about to move, I thought I'd follow the Leafs. Why not? I like hockey enough and it's not usually played during baseball season.

Never even came close to happening.

9casey said...

redsock said...


Never even came close to happening.


Hockey is an acguired taste.......seeing it live though ...it's fantastic..

redsock said...

Speaking of avatars, we need dietcokegirl to return with her teenaged lesbians in school uniforms! Need.

ish said...

I watched the Bruins a little bit in 2005-06, but the next season they were terrible. But I followed them immediately after the World Series was over, and now that they have 2 games left in the regular season and are THIS close to clinching a playoff spot... oh boy.

For instance, they're playing Ottawa this Friday, and although this may be a bit of blasphemy here... they play the same time the Red Sox do, and I'll be keeping my attention to the Bruins game with the Red Sox on the back burner.

Amy said...

Tim, you probably already know this, but most states have repealed their laws against scalping (though MA has not). So in most places, scalping is legal. I heard a former counsel for the Sox speak about this at a conference last year; basically MLB realized that they could make money participating in "scalping," and it was impossible to police against it anyway.

redsock said...

I like going to hockey games. In Vermont in the early 1980s, I saw a lot of University of Vermont Catamounts games. Kirk McCaskill (future Angels pitcher in the 1986 playoffs vs the Sox) was their top player.

We saw Rangers games a few times in NYC, but have not gone to a game here. We have seen a couple of minor league-type games in Mississauga (Ice Dogs).

redsock said...

makes sense, ish. it's game 5 of 162 for the sox.

redsock said...

ah sox highlights

redsock said...

TIZ BOMB!!!!!!!!!!!

(I love Manny)

9casey said...

I can't scalp an airline ticket , I shouldn't be able to scalp a baseball ticket.......I know everyone is going to site safety concerns and such........but tickets bought in advance should have your name on them and have to show ID...... all the good seats are given stub hub and scapling agencies and this drives down the supply and drives up the demand its friggin extortion.......

Joe Grav said...

I love the Bruins. They were the first team I got into with my Dad when I was like 3 years old. I got into the Sox on my own, later.

Also: I knew I had noticed TDCG's absence. :O

I'm most psyched about the Tek bomb. That's two in two days (sorta)

tim said...

basically MLB realized that they could make money participating in "scalping," and it was impossible to police against it anyway.

Hmph, this gives me a glimmer of hope for the human race. I guess some people aren't complete morons. Excuse me, I've just gotta clear my throat.

*cough*warondrugs*cough*
*cough*p2p*cough*
*cough*3fuckingyearcellphonecontracts incanada*cough*

Excuse me! That last one was a big one!

Yeah, I used to be big into the Bruins during the Thornton-era, then lost interest during the lockout. Didn't pick up last year because they sucked, but like ish, after the WS I followed and I like this team a lot. I also watch Maine in the NCAA but they shat the bed this year and didn't qualify for the tourney... And ish, you're not the only one who'll be focusing on the Bs Friday...after all, it's only Toronto. I'll be there in person Saturday so I will atone.

I just need to find a place in Toronto to watch the final game Saturday night...

Amy said...

Tim...huh?? What about war on drugs, p2p, and cellphone contracts?

Hockey---almost as boring as basketball, but at least people are skating.

Joe Grav said...

I'm sure you can find a hockey bar in Toronto :p

And you're not one of those Maine fans with an irrational hatred of BC are you? Cause I'd be rooting for you guys if you were about to play for the national title. ;)

Besides, NOBODY likes North Dakota.

redsock said...

REM on Colbert -- NOW!!!!!!!

tim said...

Tim...huh?? What about war on drugs, p2p, and cellphone contracts?

Just a couple examples of things where the "if you cant beat em-join em" attitude that MLBs taken with scalping would be advantageous, imo. Cell phone contracts doesn't really fit in, I'm just pissed at them and threw it in for the sake of quantity. I just think the war on drugs is a complete waste of time/money/energy etc, and the same goes for throttling/blocking/trying to stop p2p sharing. If people pulled their heads out of their tookuses and realized the true power of p2p, things would flow a lot smoother. From this, I could go into a big rant about communications regulations and why Canada blows compared to the rest of the civilized world, but I'll spare everyone. I spend enough time on this blog as it is!

And you're not one of those Maine fans with an irrational hatred of BC are you? Cause I'd be rooting for you guys if you were about to play for the national title. ;)

Besides, NOBODY likes North Dakota.


Yeah, ND sucks. But nah, I'm a casual Maine fan. Go BC as far as I'm concerned, I just love the caliber of the hockey in the league, Hockey East especially.

tim said...

Thanks RS. Tuned in...i love it. I click on the channel - "PUSSIES!"

redsock said...

THREATDOWN!!!!!!!

Jere said...

9casey: Glad you're as pissed as I am about this scalping stuff.

The Yanks knew they weren't getting fans to come to this game well before they knew the weather. I mentioned this on Sunday that they were reducing everything up to Tier Box seats to FIVE dollars each for tonight, tomorrow, and Monday. (A common practice for them.) You know how much Tier Boxes normally cost? 48 dollars each.

Even with that, they still didn't fill the place. And the people that did show up went home early. (Shouldn't they know by know that when a team is "down 3" there's a chance they come back?)

And yet turn on the radio any day this summer and you'll hear Jon Sterling telling you how amazing it is how many people come to the Stadium every night. The secret is they're all dressed up as empty blue chairs.

"MLB realized that they could make money participating in "scalping," and it was impossible to police against it anyway."

Sure it's impossible, if your force is specifically looking the other way.

redsock said...

Annoying to see Jon Stewart kissing William Safire's ass a few minutes ago.

Dear REM: If you play a new song, don't play Supernatural Superserious, play Living Well Is The Best Revenge. Thank you.

redsock said...

Then there's all the Red Sox blogs plastered with a fuckload of ticket seller ads.

Not me or Jere, though.

Jere said...

MLB: You can't put that ten second clip of a baseball game from 1990 that you're not making any $ off of and that we'll never use up on YouTube.

But you, sure you can sell 30 dollar tickets to our games for 5,000 dollars if you want. (Here's an ad for our "preferred" scalping agency!)

redsock said...

that is a high stool.

Jere said...

Wow, three dudes interviewed at once on Colbert. Meaning REM.

redsock said...

"What's good for GM is good for REM!"

:>)

How much mandolin on this album?

Best Q!

Jere said...

how many things can we have live threads about today?....

Jere said...

Amen, Mills.

redsock said...

Peter Buck is and will always be the shit.

Jere said...

first f bomb dropped

tim said...

With the technology available today, enforcing anti-scalping policy should really be simple. Have the tickets registered to the purchaser, and make sure you check ID when they get to the ball park. (Flaw: this could create bottlenecks at the entrances)

If they give them to someone else, have an online registration or telephone registration where they can change the name on the ticket for the game. (Flaw: still could be scalped, then change the name...but not as bad, and cuts down on outside-the-park scalping).

MLB would also have to actively peruse the web (ebay, stubhub etc) ensuring that tickets aren't posted for above face value.

I don't know, I'm too tired to think about it much more than that...but the point of this little 5 minute brainstorm was to show that there is a way to stop it, and it really is all about money.

I realize that it may seem like I'm McCaining right now, but my earlier comments (good for MLB) were basically saying congrats for taking advantage of the situation (if only other industries did this) ...in this post i'm just saying that clearly MLB doesn't want to stop it but its probably pretty easy if they wanted to.

Jere said...

Remember the night when Stipe wore like ten T-shirts?

redsock said...

Stipe: "I'm not great with the girl songs."

!!!!!!

...

D. Boon reference!!!!!!

tim said...

Then there's all the Red Sox blogs plastered with a fuckload of ticket seller ads.

Not to mention the actual blog posts complaining about how high-priced the scalped tickets are :P

Jere said...

minutemen mentioned on TV!

redsock said...

Stryper!

Jere said...

REM on Ratt: "They rocked."

redsock said...

"We Jam Econo"

Buy it now!

redsock said...

Fuck - I love those guys.

Jere said...

TIm, you know, Jason Giambi said "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em, when he signe dwith the Yanks... heheheh

redsock said...

That "Radio Free Europe" video I embedded last week -- the only thing that makes me that happy to watch is 2004 ALCS videos.

Jere said...

I've had a sticker for that movie "SFW" on my amp since it came out. But I never saw it. I remember Stipe hyping it up. This was like 94. Was that any good? I figure if anyone saw it it Wood be Allan.

redsock said...

11:52 -- they can squeeze in 2 songs, right???

Jere said...

Sorry, I'm just whipping up every REM memory I've got stored up from the last two decades.

redsock said...

hey other guitarist - go away. buck don't need no help.

redsock said...

bah - slowin' it down a tad for colbert.

Jere said...

Colbert has to do the final.....thing, I forget what it's called.

redsock said...

dinosaurs on the amps --a tradition going back to the early 80s.

redsock said...

SFW?

redsock said...

Stipe: "I'm not great with the girl songs."

...

This witty line sailed totally over the audience's head.

tim said...

This Keys to the VIP shit looks like shit. (commercial on the lameass canadian comedy network)

redsock said...

Colbert has to do the final.....thing, I forget what it's called.

waste of time that could be filled with some loud geeee-tar???

redsock said...

I mean to check to see if Babe often led the league in K. I'm not so sure these a-holes are historically correct.

redsock said...

Next: South Park!

tim said...

They def are not correct

tim said...

Next: South Park!

lol...the succubus one

tim said...

Oh no, I think this is the lesbian one. Some classic lines from Cartman coming up!

Jere said...

very anti-Canadian South Park on.

So, SFW was a movie. Stood for So Fucking What. I was in college and I got that sticker in the mail and slapped it on my amp. Then at some award show, Stipe was interviewed, and he said the movie was gonna be the shit. ANd I never even saw a commercial for it or heard anything about it again.

redsock said...

I'm seeing the Garrsion nose job/substitute teacher that the boys fall in love with show.

redsock said...

Don't know that movie, as far as I recall.

tim said...

I'm seeing the Garrsion nose job/substitute teacher that the boys fall in love with show.

Yup, same here...like I said...Cartman at his finest coming up

redsock said...

SFW, with a young Reese Witherspoon. Wiki.

redsock said...

.. that makes me quarter-lesbian.

tim said...

hahahahahahaha there it is

tim said...

listening to the 'indiglo girls', licking carpet.

redsock said...

andy gibb! oh yeah!

redsock said...

king lesbian!

redsock said...

Well, Ruth was either 1st or 2nd in AL Ks for 11 straight years -- 1918-1928.

tim said...

Cartman takes a bite out of a cardboard box

"Cartman are you still trying to be a lesbian?"
"Yeah dude! My mom says all I have to do is chow on this box!"

Joe Grav said...

The new South Park is hilarious, although IDK, maybe Canadians won't like it :p

redsock said...

Homer

glove slap!!!

redsock said...

glove slap
i don't take crap

:>)

Jere said...

So I can't figure out what Stipe had to do with SFW. Maybe he invested in it. REM wasn't even on the soundtrack. I did find one site that mentioned he wore an SFW hat at some MTV awards. That must be what I'm remembering.

Joe Grav said...

"I TOLD HER, DON'T F*** WITH WENDY"

Joe Grav said...

There must be something else to thread about. I don't want to write my paper. :P

Amy said...

You boys certainly stayed up late last night even without any baseball!

I can't speak to your Colbert and South Park rantings, but on the scalping...If people stopped paying the ridiculous prices, then ticket prices would drop. In some ways it's just pure capitalism--supply and demand and all that. Do we really trust the government to get into the price fixing business, determining what is or is not a fair price? Don't get me wrong---I agree that prices are ridiculous, that only wealthy people and corporations can afford to go to baseball games and other sporting events, and that only the rich get richer. But that's a problem that infects our whole capitalist system, not just ticket pricing. It's like spending millions of dollars on art----is a van Gogh painting really worth millions of dollars? If someone is willing to pay that for it, then I guess it is.

Jere said...

"only wealthy people and corporations can afford to go to baseball games "

No! That's only true if we allow people to sell 12 dollar upper bleacher seats for 300 dollars! This is what I'm saying. Yes, the face value prices are high, but I think that's what goes along with the rest of society. The price of a soda at a vending machine used to be 25 cents, and now it's 1.25. That's an example of the normal evolution of the economy. But I'm complaining about the equivalent of having to pay ten dollars for the soda because some dude went to the machine and bought them all in the first minute and then started selling them--illegally, mind you--on his own.

And had a network of people going to each machine taking all the sodas from all of them, knowing that if they have all the sodas, they can charge whatever they bloody well please--even thought the law was supposedly put in place to prevent this. And then to have the soda companies, instead of fighting it, just take a cut from the guy and then slap an ad up for him right on the machine!!!

Amy said...

Jere, you know I am sympathetic to what you say as I am the person who can never get reasonably priced tickets. I did, by the way, try to get tickets at the Sox website, but every game we wanted to go to was sold out---even though listed there as having tickets. Plus the cheapest tickets were $90 --- I love baseball, but it still hurts our budget to pay $180 for a game---plus parking, outrageous prices for beer/soda/snacks. So even face value breaks the bank for us. Maybe once a season, but not much more. We are lucky to have a friend with season's tickets who invites us once a season, plus my school usually buys a block of grand stand seats once a season.

Anyway, on your larger point, first off, in many places, third party selling of the tickets at a premium price is no longer illegal, e.g. in New York State. Secondly, it may be morally wrong (though I am not sure many would agree even with that), but it is not unlawful to buy up stuff and sell it at a higher price. People do that on ebay all the time after buying stuff at Costco, etc. My father-in-law, who was a scrupulously honest businessperson, used to buy toothpaste at discount stores and resell it at his pharmacy at a higher price. Unless someone has a monopoly on a certain kind of product or unless they are engaging in deceptive behavior or perhaps violating some other specific consumer protection statute provision, that soda guy is just doing what our system says he can and should do---make money.

I think what makes this seem so unfair with tickets is that these agents somehow have the means to get the tickets before we, the public, even get a chance, and that baseball tickets cannot be considered equivalent to some other entertainment event if you want to see a baseball game. It is almost like a monopoly, except that there are so many out there engaging in the same behavior, not just one vendor. If your soda guy charges too much for soda, we can decide to buy soda elsewhere or drink water or juice or whatever. If the ticket vendor charges too much, we have no other choice except not to go at all. :(

9casey said...

Amy said...
It's like spending millions of dollars on art----is a van Gogh painting really worth millions of dollars? If someone is willing to pay that for it, then I guess it is.



Like Jere said tickets have prices on them Van Gogh's don't ...I was in Phoenix last week for the NCAA Regionals.......and a friend from college invited 3 of us out there and he bought the tickets .well the face value said $61.00 for each game and we saw 3 , well we found out later that those tickets threw some garbage lottery were actually $550.00 for the 3 games not 183.00 .it has to stop

9casey said...

Amy said...
, but it is not unlawful to buy up stuff and sell it at a higher price.


No, your right that is called business, but when certain groups are only given the oppurtunity to buy....

I am sure when your father bought toothpaste he didn't leave the old price on the tube.....If you walked into any retail store to buy say a bag of Frito's and it was pre priced at .99cents and you got to the register and the clerk charged you $50.00 , that is against the law.....why not so with tickets....

Amy said...

If you walked into any retail store to buy say a bag of Frito's and it was pre priced at .99cents and you got to the register and the clerk charged you $50.00 , that is against the law.....why not so with tickets....

If the clerk did that, you could refuse to buy the toothpaste or you could complain about mislabeling the goods. When people buy scalped tickets, they are not buying them from the team that issues them, so they can't complain that the team mislabeled the tickets. When you see the tickets advertised on StubHub or ebay, you only see the price that they are charging and you know that isn't the face value. You are not deceived, just as when you buy a rare penny that is worth $100 you know that you are paying more than the ONE CENT that appears on the coin. Or perhaps more relevant here, when you pay above face value for a baseball program from a historic game or a baseball card of a favorite player. Just because that program from the 75 World Series says $1 and you pay $100 doesn't mean you have been ripped off.

People who pay scalpers are not tricked into paying more---they know exactly what they are doing.
I repeat that as a consumer I don't like what has happened with ticket prices, but I don't see it as immoral. If we live in a free market, this is the behavior we have to expect. Those with the money will pay more because they can, and there will always be somebody to sell it to them for whatever they are willing to pay.

9casey said...

I'm not saying it is immoral.....

Or wait am I, is MLB involment with these ticket brokers immoral from a business standpoint, when they say ticket sales are the highest they have been in years, when they presell a good majority to Stub Hub and other brokeres......the numbers are skewed and in fact bullshit.....

9casey said...

Matt Gould, vice president of communications for MLB Advanced Media which oversees the league’s interactive enterprise


MLB is not placing any restrictions on the resale of tickets, and will allow fans to resell them anywhere, with no limits on how much or how little they charge, Gould said. “There are absolutely no restrictions. Both MLB and StubHub strongly believe in a free and open market.”



“Fans wanted it, and StubHub! already has an enormous customer base. Our vision is to provide what fans want,” Gould said.

Whether that will hurt individual brokers, however, Gould had no comment. “That’s not for us to say because our primary concern is the fans.”


How laughable is that???

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