May 17, 2008

G44: Red Sox 5, Brewers 3

Brewers - 000 000 201 - 3   9  1
Red Sox - 130 000 01x - 5 11 1
Dice was strong (6.2-7-2-2-6, 103, both runs unearned) and David Ortiz belted a three-run home run to left-center in the second inning. The pen saw some nice work from Manny Delcarmen (1.1 IP, ending the 7th and taking the 8th, allowing only a one-out single).

Ortiz also scored in the first, on a bases-loaded walk to J.D. Drew. Doubles from Jason Varitek and Jacoby Ellsbury brought in the fifth run in the eighth.

Matsuzaka worked quickly through the first 4.2 innings, throwing only 58 pitches to 16 batters. But with two outs in the fifth, he allowed a single to Bill Hall, hit Jason Kendall and walked Rickie Weeks to load the bases before getting the final out.

A two-out error at third from Kevin Youkilis kept the seventh inning alive for Milwaukee and Mike Cameron followed with a two-run dong to left. Papelbon allowed a solo shot to Ryan Braun in the ninth.

The Red Sox had plenty of chances to add to their run total.
4th - runner on second, no outs
5th - runners on first and second, no outs
6th - runners on first and third, no outs
7th - runners on first and second, no outs
None of those runners scored. In fact, only one of those seven runners advanced even one base; the man on first in the 6th ended up at second.

***

Jeff Suppan (4.63, 92 ERA+) / Daisuke Matsuzaka (2.45, 174 ERA+)

Game 1 of today's afternoon-night doubleheader.

271 comments:

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Sarah Haendler said...

Yay baseball! (Still in bad dance land. I want some BASEBALL today!)

allan said...

Your first serving of oatmeal:

Rickie Weeks, 2B
Mike Cameron, CF
Ryan Braun, LF
Prince Fielder, DH
Corey Hart, RF
J.J. Hardy, SS
Joe Dillon, 1B
Bill Hall, 3B
Jason Kendall, C

Jacoby Ellsbury, CF
Dustin Pedroia, 2B
David Ortiz, DH
Manny Ramirez, LF
Kevin Youkilis, 3B
J.D. Drew, RF
Jason Varitek, C
Sean Casey, 1B
Julio Lugo, SS

allan said...

Mets 6, Yankees 3 (after 7)
Cardinals 8, Rays 4 (after 6)

2 thumbs up!

s1c said...

Abreu just hits one out to deep center (Santana's 3rd HR given up), 6-4 with 2 out in the 8th.

allan said...

Cards 8-7 (top 7)
Mets 6-4 (bot 8)

Hold the lines!!!

s1c said...

Yankee fans boo Santana as he gets pulled after giving up a 2b to Jeter.

Amy said...

Is the game on Fox first? Or ESPN?

Amy said...

Fox. Found it.

allan said...

nice start, dice.

jeez.

allan said...

milw's 1-2 hitters are batting a combined .208 this season. stop nibbling.

Sarah Haendler said...

I even have audio now, at least until the house opens. Even if the commentary is inane, I like to hear a little crowd noise!

Just finished watching the cubs game backstage with the flyman. Hope our game doesn't end that way. :(

allan said...

tek gun!!

Amy said...

Good throw by Tek!

laura k said...

Gotta tune in w/o thread today. Enjoy, all. GO SOX!

allan said...

okay -- nice recovery!

bats?

allan said...

mets get that run back. stems hitting and up 7-4 in the top of 9th.

s1c said...

Run in dah bronx was off of Joba!!!

C'mon bats.

Sarah Haendler said...

Bah. House is open. Had to mute. Harder to thread with the teeny, silent baseball game!

allan said...

Run in dah bronx was off of Joba!!!

HE'S ONLY HUMAN, YOU KNOW!!!!

Sarah Haendler said...

Hutts aren't human!

allan said...

Manny HBP on the knuckles of his left hand??

Sarah Haendler said...

Time to set it ON FIRE.

Amy said...

Walk in a run!

Amy said...

Full count. Ugh.

Amy said...

OK, we are in the lead. NOW LET'S KEEP IT THIS TIME.

s1c said...

Since Tek is 0 forever with bases loaded, he has to be due!!!

nick said...

walked in in. I bet nick has something to say about that.

well, not really... up 1,nuth.

Amy said...

30 pitches already for Suppan.

Another full count. Don't swing, Tek.

Amy said...

He never listens to me.

allan said...

all starts with 2 outs

4-3
F8
BB
HBP
1B
BB

P5

allan said...

METS WIN 7-4.

Rays and Cards tied at 8-8 in the top of the 9th

nick said...

well...I'll take that over the HR I thought it was going to be.

allan said...

.... so that's what happened to shit-rocker corey hart ....

s1c said...

Escaped!!

allan said...

Pitches per batter for Dice so far:

5
4
4
3
4
4
2

13-13 = 26

keep it goin'.

allan said...

that sun in RF is brutal and blinding. i don't know how anyone catches anything out there.

s1c said...

Dong!!!

Papi!!!

Amy said...

So good to be back at Fenway!! Go, Papi!!

allan said...

THE LARGE FATHER!!!!!!!!!!!!

laura k said...

PAPI DONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Amy said...

Back to back? 499?

laura k said...

.... so that's what happened to shit-rocker corey hart ....

You're clearly not watching much tween TV, or else you'd know where the Coreys all went.

Sarah Haendler said...

The Yankee fan PSM asked me to keep her updated on the game over headset, and I have to admit, the glee with which I reported that dong was downright mean.

laura k said...

I have an hour of game thread... So c'mon Manny, make it 499.

laura k said...

the glee with which I reported that dong was downright mean

Maybe, but only human. :)

Amy said...

Wow, he caught that?

allan said...

I like playing against Jeff Suppan.

nick said...

I watch some tweenTV, but clearly the wrong stuff. I've no idea where the coreys are at.

allan said...

tween TV, or else you'd know where the Coreys all went

those tweens weren't born yet when the corey i'm talking -- mr. sunglasses at night -- about was polluting the air waves.

allan said...

hmm, that "aboot" is out of place.

anyway --- 4-0!

... on to the 10th in STL

laura k said...

those tweens weren't born yet when the corey i'm talking -- mr. sunglasses at night -- about was polluting the air waves

I knew who you meant. All the Coreys are having a second (or third) life on tween telly. It's quite hideous.

laura k said...

The Two Coreys features Corey Haim and Corey Feldman, with guest appearances from anyone who ever did anything whose name is Corey. Sunglasses At Night has been on it.

But why did he come up on this thread?

laura k said...

I watch some tweenTV, but clearly the wrong stuff.

That's cause you're probably watching the good stuff.

I love tween stuff, it's what I write. It used to be for older teens, but teens got more mature while my writing stayed the same.

nick said...

seems like a lot of the tweenish stuff I've seen on the N and such comes from canada, just like the De Grassi (Junior) High from my youth.

anyhow. I've got to run from one job to another. have fun, all.

allan said...

Corey Hart is playing RF for Milwaukee.

allan said...

Cardinals win in 10!!! Tampa loses 9-8.

laura k said...

Scoreboard watching with Tampa Bay. File under Things I Thought I'd Never See.

Amy said...

Are there any tweens any more? It seems to me everyone over the age of 9 is a teenager these days. Sad to say.

I watch teen tv though. From 90210 to Gossip Girl. I think I keep hoping I will figure out why my teens years were so dismal and what I was (or was not ) missing.

laura k said...

Are there tweens anymore? I thought it was a pretty new phenom. They used to be just kids. Now they're tweens.

So, yes, there definitely are. They are a gigantic marketing demographic.

laura k said...

Radio guys talking about Farnsworth getting boo'd at the Stadium. Is Farnsworth The Mop? I don't remember who The Mop is.

Amy said...

I meant that tweens don't seem that different from teens. They dress like teens, talk like teens, and perhaps even engage in teen behavior. They just are 10-12 instead of 13 and over. I know they are a new marketing demographic. I find that sad.

When I was 10, I dressed and acted like a kid. I don't see that any more.

allan said...

He's "The Mop"!

Amy said...

The mayor leads off with a double!

Why do we ever have to leave Fenway....

allan said...

Mayor Doubles!

laura k said...

I think tweens and teens are different, not just in marketing. They may dress the same (altho I'm not sure they do) but they are more kid-like than teens.

I don't think it's sad. I think it just is.

Amy said...

Uch, let's not waste a lead off double.

allan said...

Enough with the bunting.

Seriously.

Stop it.

s1c said...

Enough with the bunting.

???

Amy said...

I think it is unfortunate that 10 year old girls are so sexualized in what they wear, what they talk about, what they do. It is what it is, but I still am wistful for days when kids held on to their innocence for a longer period of time. I am not sure it is healthy for a ten year old to be wearing makeup and tight clothes and thinking about appearnances and looking "cool."

laura k said...

Amy, I completely agree with you on that. I don't think that's necessarily the norm at 10, tho.

I interview kids between 8 and 12 on a regular basis, and they are really very kidlike.

Also the "kids are older these days" is not just sexual or being sexualized. I was thinking of it in a larger sense.

allan said...

This date in 1979:

PHIL - 708 240 100 1 - 23 24 2
CUBS - 600 373 030 0 - 22 26 2

laura k said...

Wow! What a game that was in Chicago.

allan said...

Lugo tried to bunt with Casey on second -- which was bad enough when you're up 4-0 in the 4th -- but then he was called out because of interference.

Someone else attempted a bunt earlier.

allan said...

I still am wistful for days when kids held on to their innocence for a longer period of time

That idea of a childhood innocence -- and children as children -- is a relatively new concept. Maybe L could pin down an approximate time it began, but it is fairly modern.

Amy said...

The person who bunted unsuccessfully was on the Brewers. They can do that all they want.

allan said...

Wait - Lyndon bunted after Lugo's single. But that was more for a hit, I believe. Which he got.

Amy said...

I think childhood innocence is a fairly recent phenomenon---it certainly was not the case in the 19th or early 20th century when kids were working long hours. Probably more a modern phenomenon. But those good old days are my good old days!

Good to hear there are kids who are still kids at that age. I don't get much of a chance to talk to anyone under 20 these days!

allan said...

Yeah, after Fielder's leadoff double in the 2nd, Hart bunted him to third.

laura k said...

The entire concept of teenage-hood is very modern.

I don't think kids are innocent or not innocent. I don't think there is such a thing. We all just learn and grow.

But I understand what Amy means about sexualizing little kids.

laura k said...

But those good old days are my good old days!

That's what it's all about. :)

allan said...

I remember reading about it in a book on the history of Christmas -- the idea of buying toys for kids and "childhood" being a separate period of time. Probably mid-to late-1800s, 1860s.

allan said...

And in 2048, those now-10 year olds will talk about how much better it was back in 2008 for kids -- the "good old days".

laura k said...

It also depended on class. Low-income kids were always put to work, still are in so many parts of the world.

Amy said...

Close them down, DiceK.

allan said...

hey, dice, wake up and pitch. let's go!

Amy said...

Phew.

Sarah Haendler said...

My understanding is that the concept of the innocent, carefree childhood is tied to the rise of the middle class, so it's not entirely surprising that it should be vanishing now!

laura k said...

Nice!

laura k said...

Sarah, excellent point.

Amy said...

And in 2048, those now-10 year olds will talk about how much better it was back in 2008 for kids -- the "good old days".

Probably true. And it will probably be right! Life gets better and worse. I wouldn't go back to the 1950s with all its sexism and racism and no cable TV or internet, but it was a fairly easy time to grow up---if you ignore all our concerns about the cold war and the atomic bomb.

Papi safe! GO shift THAT!

laura k said...

shift this

Amy said...

Manny, Laura wants to see 499. GEt to it, already.

laura k said...

It's always easy to grow up if your family has enough means for you to be comfortable and you are not the target of persecution. People talk about the idyllic 1950s in the US, but what if you were gay? Or a black person in Alabama?

Amy said...

Sorry, Laura, just a base hit.

Rob said...

Good afternoon, chaps. Just got home from going out to lunch about an hour away. Some restaurants are worth the hour drive. The problem is our waitress was not good at all. Frank, unsanitary, lazy, that sort of thing. My sister went and talked to the manager just to give him a heads up (she graduated from college today, thus the reason for the trip) and the manager was very nice about it and understood, and said "Let me see your bill, I'm going to go amend it for you" and ended up taking $60 off of the bill. It was too bad about the waitress, but it happens. There are always exceptionally good ones and bad ones.

And here we are with a 4-0 lead on an absolutely beautiful day, and we have 13 innings of baseball left!

laura k said...

Thank you Amy! :)

allan said...

flo and mbm setting the table!

s1c said...

Sock, Lugo was bunting for a hit also, I don't have problems with guys bunting for hits especially against slow footed, suspect corner IF's and Pitcher.

Hmmm, Home, they broke the 3-0 lead thanks to Papi's 3 run dong!!!

Time for the 5-6-7 hitters to start doing some damage.

laura k said...

There are always exceptionally good ones and bad ones.

Like every job.

Too bad a server's wage depends upon what kind of day he or she is having. I get paid the same whether or not I'm having a bad day.

allan said...

The problem is our waitress was not good at all. Frank, unsanitary, lazy, that sort of thing.

Calling her "Frank" likely got things off on the wrong foot right away.

laura k said...

My hour of threading is coming to a close... but I should be able to check in for important things like dongs and big Ks.

Rob said...

Calling her "Frank" likely got things off on the wrong foot right away.

Yeah. Though she kinda looked like a Frank.

Amy said...

I am sure there were lots of miserable kids back then---not only because they were poor or black or gay---but because they had miserable parents. It was never really like Leave it to Beaver. And I had my miseries as well. But it was less complicated in many ways, and my friends and I had a lot of innocence and ignorance---they seem to go together.

allan said...

Bah. The once roaring flames have been doused.

s1c, if you say so. I couldn't tell.

Jere said...

Came here to see if anyone noticed Mark Clear in that '82 clip....

The SLURVE lives on....

allan said...

The ol' 4-3-6 DP.

Amy said...

Bye, Laura. I also will be leaving soon. Theater tickets tonight in Hartford. So I guess Ish will have to take over now that he is here.

laura k said...

but because they had miserable parents

The number one cause of childhood misery.

Amy said...

Damn, two in scoring position, no one out.

Fielder---what a great name for a baseball player.

We had a student graduate from the law school today whose first name was Lawyer.

laura k said...

The gay/black-in-Alabama comment wasn't about childhood. Just life, which was supposedly great in the 1950s in the US.

laura k said...

We had a student graduate from the law school today whose first name was Lawyer.

That is too much! Fated from birth.

Amy, what are you seeing?

Jere said...

Amy, I just got back from Hartford! Meaning Newington...

allan said...

We had a student graduate from the law school today whose first name was Lawyer.

Reminds me of the Seinfeld bit about how any child named Jeeves will likely become a butler. You've kind of mapped out his future for him.

Jere said...

Fielder's choice: vegetarianism.

Amy said...

Tennessee Williams' The Milk Train Doesn't Stop Here. With Olympia Dukakis.

laura k said...

The tough cases are the pitchers named Walker.

Or the hitters named Whiff.

Jere said...

I just thought of Seinfeld, too: "Braun."

laura k said...

Oo nice, have fun!

Amy said...

Saved again! DiceK likes to make it interesting.

Jere said...

Poor Bob Walk.

allan said...

Dice -- roaring back with 2 K!

s1c said...

10 pitches in the inning all strikes and nobody scored!!!

Escaped!!!

Amy said...

You must have a team of players with baseball appropriate names.

Rob said...

Amy, I just got back from Hartford! Meaning Newington...

Ah, Hartford. Memories of wandering around there, going to the malls with my family... West Hartford, Newington, Manchester... also stopping into a little bakery in Elmwood for scotch bread each time we went. I've got family in Simsbury/Granby area.

allan said...

Dillon flies to center and wonders "can this really be the end" of this inning?

Amy said...

OK, I am off to eat and go. Enjoy the game, everyone!

allan said...

Dice at 90 thru 6. Having him go 7 takes a ton of pressure off the pen.

laura k said...

You must have a team of players with baseball appropriate names.

Time to start one.

Bye, Amy! Although I've probably already missed her.

Who just hit the g/r 2b?

s1c said...

Tek hit the 2b

allan said...

tek. it landed inches in front of the rf pole and foul line.

allan said...

casey with the "luis gonzalez shot" over shortstop!

...


sorry L.

Amy said...

I saw Tek get the double. So I was still here, Laura.

But leaving soon...waiting for Harvey to read his email so we can go eat.

laura k said...

Thanks everyone except Allan.

laura k said...

Dave O'Brien reminding us of why we like Jeff Suppan. :)

Damn! DP.

allan said...

tek = idiot.

Rob said...

Would Gary Glover be a good candidate for a team with baseball names?

laura k said...

Glover, yes! Definitely.

There's someone in the Majors named Butcher. Bad name for a fielder.

Jere said...

YOu can't go as Johnny Damon for Halloween unless it's the bearded, long-haired one...

laura k said...

Just heard NYY lost to NYM. You all probably already know that.

Jere said...

So Remy got picked off after his first ML hit, and McCarver pinch hit because somebody else got ejected to get his first Red Sox hit.

laura k said...

Jere, why are you talking about Damon and Halloween? Something on NESN I guess. I'm on MLB audio.

And I should be working instead of threading...

Rob said...

There's someone in the Majors named Butcher. Bad name for a fielder.

Isn't there a pitching coach named Butcher as well?

Jere said...

Yeah, Santana beat the Yanks. I love it. (Wagner tried, but couldn't blow the game in the ninth.)

Rob said...

We're stuck with Fox for the next... I think either 4 more weeks or 3 out of the next 4 Saturdays.

Jere said...

L: It's a Fox game. Hence the 3:55. Stupid Kenny Albert said that Jacoby once went as Damon for Halloween--and then wondered if it was the Red Sox or Yanks' Damon...

allan said...

Butcher is the coach.

Only 3 Butcher have played MLB:

Hank Butcher 1911-1912
John Butcher 1980-1986
Max Butcher 1936-1945

laura k said...

Yes, I meant Fox. Actually, I just meant TV.

I don't care as much as everyone else whether our game is on NESN or not.

Jere said...

McCArver = idiot. Just "noticing" the "worn spot" behind the mound, saying "it makes sense, all the pitchers walk up the back of the mound." What he doesn't "notice" is the spike cleaner thing that they're SHOWING A CLOSE UP of as he's talking.....

s1c said...

95 pitches for Daisuke? Ok, who is this guy masquerading as #18 and can we have him show up for 20 more starts?

Rob said...

E-Yook

allan said...

Red Cox pitched 3 games (5 IP) for the 1920 Tigers -- born:

Plateau Preston Rex Cox

...

Cox did not hit any dongs.

Jere said...

Error on Youk!

Jere said...

And it leads to a dong! Are you kidding me?

Sarah Haendler said...

Yeah, Laura, I enjoyed informing the PSM of that one as well...

Rob said...

I don't care about that dong right there. Cameron has hit the ball hard all afternoon.

Ha! Guy went to throw the ball back on the field, then was like nah. Just kidding. I'm keeping this.

I just want Dice to get out of this inning. And maybe come back and pitch the 8th.

laura k said...

Yeah, Yook's perfectness comes to a close.

McCarver = Idiot Supreme

2 run dong for them. boo. yook's E costly.

Jere said...

L: A McCarver game is still a different animal, no?

Rob said...

LMAO. Red Cox. He must be a really tough guy to have that name. Like a boy named Sue.

allan said...

Still no E as a 1B, though.

Streak continues.

Rob said...

This guy isn't a baseball player, but he's on the baseball-name umpiring crew.

Fieldin Culbreth.

laura k said...

He's an idiot, but I honestly don't care what station/announcers are doing the game. I don't listen to them very closely.

And I don't like Don and Jerry as much as many people do.

laura k said...

I always think that about Culbreth too. :)

Rob said...

And I don't like Don and Jerry as much as many people do.

As far as announcers do go, do you like Castig and O'Brien better than Don and Jerry?

laura k said...

Radio, hands down.

Rob said...

Prince Fielder, working with the Boys and Girls Clubs of America to create a positive place for kids, and to make them realize that you can have man boobs and still play Major League Baseball.

allan said...

I wonder if Red Cox and Rusty Kuntz would have been friends?

Sarah Haendler said...

Dance over - heading home. Talk to you lot for the later game!

laura k said...

I hated Trupiano, what little I heard of him. And I thought I disliked Dave O'Brien from his Fox days - he was a big MUMS guy.

But Castig and O'B on the radio are very good. I enjoy it a lot on weekends.

Rob said...

I wonder if Red Cox and Rusty Kuntz would have been friends?

They'd be a good fit.

allan said...

Fieldin Culbreth

Always sounds like a Johnny Carson comeback:

Mmmmmm, not so, Fieldin Culbreth!

laura k said...

I wonder if Red Cox and Rusty Kuntz would have been friends?

They'd be a good fit.


LOL

Rob said...

Well, this has fit the mold so far for the last few games. Hopefully this time the bullpen won't cough this one up, and 4+ runs will be enough.

Jack Marshall said...

Does anyone else remember errors hurting this much in prior seasons? Or is it always like this? I don't think so...

allan said...

MDC = Millions of Dead Cbrewers.

The C is silent.

Rob said...

Does anyone else remember errors hurting this much in prior seasons? Or is it always like this? I don't think so...

The error by Graffanino in 2005 hurt quite a bit. The Red Sox also had trouble winning games because of errors early in 2004, didn't they?

Rob said...

Fox gets back to Fenway in mid-pitch.

Rob said...

THREE dead Cbrewers!

allan said...

I missed the Yook error, did he bobble it and then throw late?

Rob said...

I missed the Yook error, did he bobble it and then throw late?

It was a hot shot grounder that bounced off of him. He recovered quickly but the runner was too fast. He was late by about 5 steps.

allan said...

The Red Sox also had trouble winning games because of errors early in 2004, didn't they?

Maybe. I know that midway through July or maybe even into August, I called 2004 the most frustrating season possible for me as a fan.

Playing .500 baseball for 3-4 months was maddening.

Jere said...

Pussy Tebeau and Dick Pole would also get along Knicely. Depending on their orientation, that is.

laura k said...

ok manny, 499, please

allan said...

Here is what I wrote on the blog on June 30, 2004:

"Hitting Bottom. ... and here I thought last Saturday's game was the worst game of the year. Can the Red Sox play any worse than they did in last night's 11-3 pasting in the Bronx? I'd like to say No, but I think the correct answer is ... stay tuned."

Then I quoted SoSH TheYellowDart5:

"I don't think it's possible to express how frustrated I am right now with this team. Night after night after night, they throw away games with tremendously poor defense, horrible baserunning, a lack of clutch hitting, a lack of clutch pitching, and just about every other conceivable mistake you can make in a ballgame.

This is a team that is close to the top in errors, nearly last in fielding percentage, gives away outs like they were candy, can't bunt, can't run, forgets outs, can't turn routine DPs, forgets to hold runners on (I'm looking at you Derek...), seemingly doesn't read scouting reports, doesn't take advantage of opposing team miscues, and seems to fold if they're behind after the 7th. There is, simply put, absolutely no life or energy or urgency to this team. None."


****

So there was frustration!

Jere said...

stop tryin to hit Manny, Turd McClung

Rob said...

Manny swings at 3-0...

allan said...

WTF???????????

any warning?

laura k said...

In a way the 2004 WS was a microcosm of the whole season. Frustration and crushing loss, turned around into joy.

laura k said...

No warning that I heard of.

Rob said...

WTF???????????

any warning?


Nope. McClung barked at himself. He's just wild, and he knows it.

s1c said...

Add some runs you guys!!!

why I am starting to like Bannister of the Royals, when asked for a reason between his day / night splits in starts this year: “The hitters tell me my fastball looks faster when they’re still a little hungover.”

c'mon Youk!!!

Jere said...

One of the many things I wrote on the same night: "And where were the mad bombers last night? You've got A-Rod, Jeter, Cheney, Posada, Pataki, Giambi, and Giuliani in one room. You can't let that kind of oppurtunity slip away!"

Damn, I spelled opportunity wrong.

Rob said...

Such a weird webcam I'm looking at, from northern Norway. Light out at 12:30 AM... and snowing.

Not that I never knew about midnight sun or anything. But on the face of it, it's just so weird. Light out all night, and still snowing.

laura k said...

RUNS PLEASE

Rob said...

RUNS PLEASE

Yes. That.

laura k said...

but no.

allan said...

Bannister is also really into the more progressive stats.

laura k said...

Bannister! I have to remember him for our house team. A great duo w/ Matt Stairs.

s1c said...

Bannister is also really into the more progressive stats.

One of the reasons why I am enjoying Posnanski's blog, after every start he does a breakdown of the games because Bannister has expressed his love for the stats helping him pitch better.

Fuck You Fox!!! Aaron fucking Boone.

Rob said...
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laura k said...

One more dead Cbrewer, please...

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