May 30, 2008

G57: Red Sox 5, Orioles 2 (13)

Red Sox - 200 000 000 000 3 - 5  10  2
Orioles - 010 100 000 000 0 - 2 8 4
After losing five of six games on the west coast, Boston won a Friday night nail-biter at Camden Yards.

Terry Francona played with fire yet again, avoiding a rested Jonathan Papelbon when the game was on the line.

Tito was pro-active in choosing Hideki Okajima over Manny Delcarmen for a tie-game in the 7th inning. I liked his choice of MDC for the ninth. Craig Hansen, called in with one on and one out in the 10th, not only shut the door, but pitched a perfect 11th. Francona put his trust in the kids, and they came through.

The Red Sox rallied in the top of the 12th -- a two-out walk to Julio Lugo and a single and stolen base from Jacoby Ellsbury (he stole three tonight) -- but they could not score. Since Boston did not have a lead, and there was no immediate opportunity for a save -- Francona brought in Mike Timlin rather than his best pitcher.

As we have seen at least twice this season, this move has backfired. And when Nick Markakis doubled with one out in the 12th, it looked like Francona would get burned again. Aubrey Huff was walked intentionally and Kevin Millar grounded to shortstop. Lugo bobbled the ball, but it stayed in front of him. He threw high to first, Kevin Youkilis pulled it down, and Millar was nipped -- but only because of the grand piano on his back.

The runners moved to second and third, so Luke Scott was also put on base. Ramon Hernandez, who had failed to drive in the winning run from second against Hansen in the 10th, flew out to left to end the 12th. During that entire 21-pitch inning, Francona was happy to have Bot sit on his ass in the pen, content to trust the game to Timlin. After a Jamesian decision to go with Jeemer in the 7th, Francona acted Gumpian in the 12th. It was the wrong move, but Tito and the Red Sox dodged the bullet.

The Red Sox sent eight men to the plate in the 13th, as a couple of hits, a walk, two Baltimore infield errors and a double steal from Youkilis and Mike Lowell (!) equaled three runs. With a save now up for grabs, Papelbon made quick work of the Birds.

Cliff Floyd's solo home run gave Tampa a 2-1 walkoff win over the White Sox, so the Red Sox remain 1 GB. The Yankees beat the Twins 6-5 to move up into fourth place.

***

Josh Beckett (4.43, 97 ERA+) / Daniel Cabrera (3.70, 113 ERA+)

I hate off days. With my work schedule (Fri/Sat/Sun), I get four nights at home -- and I'd like to see the Red Sox every night. But the team's off days fall generally on Monday or Thursday. I can often follow the game at work, but it's never guaranteed.

SoSH: While noting that the Red Sox faced a number of good starters in Oakland and Seattle, their batting numbers are still depressing:
14 runs in 6 games
No runs in 45 of 54 innings
.169 batting average
.252 on-base percentage
More strikeouts (45) than hits & walks (43)
Only 1 hit in one game and 2 hits in another
Youkilis, Varitek, Crisp and Cash went a combined 0-for-40
AL East: Tampa lost to the White Sox last night, so we are 1 GB. Those teams play again tonight at the Trop, while the LPY are in Minnesota.

509 comments:

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Patrick said...

Wow. This is in tents.

phil said...

Celtics win, at least.

Patrick said...

Legit 401 TYVM.

Amy said...

Phew.

OK, I say we win. We each blew a big scoring opportunity. Our turn to score.

But I also say...Pap comes in next.

Patrick said...

Man has yet another chance to make his B-day his D-day.

nixon33 said...

I AM WITHOUT SPEECH

Ben said...

Alright, we survived Timlin. If that is not divine intervention of some sort, I don't know what is!

Amy said...

Patrick...in tents?

Huh?

I am still waiting to find out why Bailey is called Gumball.

redsock said...

shit -- behind home camera made it impossible to see. thought it was a dong.

oops. heh heh

redsock said...

yay - second scorecard of the night

Patrick said...

I love that extra innings is like rebelling against MLB.

Patrick said...

In tents = intense

ish said...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

ish said...

Boy, this reminds me of the beginning of a rally with pink bats.

Amy said...

I sense a lucky break leads to our victory.

ish said...

Or maybe it won't matter.

But here is Manny.

Amy said...

Got it, Patrick.

Manny, please hit D.

Patrick said...

Time to drop a D.

redsock said...

chadford!

ish said...

LMAO!!! ERRRRRROORRRRRRRR

Amy said...

Another lucky break! If we don't score this inning....we are doomed.

redsock said...

nice work manny!

and mora, you too!

ish said...

Mora threw that ball like there was some letter he had attached to it, asking some hot chick in the first row out on a date.

Patrick said...

I meant 500 and not a double, but I'll take it!

ish said...

THE GOOD DOCTOR DELIVERS!!!

redsock said...

time for the doc to pay a house call on these birds.

ish said...

RBI Rx!!!

phil said...

Mikey!

Amy said...

YES!!! Love the doctor! We are in the lead.

Pap comes in now, for sure. Are we now glad that Francona waited?

redsock said...

warm up the bot machine, pls.

Patrick said...

AMERICA, FUCK YEA!

phil said...

Patrick: that was scored an error, not a double.

redsock said...

Pap comes in now, for sure. Are we now glad that Francona waited?

No. A million times no.

Patrick said...

Where's L girl?!? You were right, Laura. They would score again.

L-girl said...

YAY!!!!!!!!!!

Amy said...

I always hated when Bradford pitched for us. I like him better tonight.

L-girl said...

(had to run over to my real computer for that)

redsock said...

can we get 10 runs, so tito will send timlin out again, and he might break his arm or something?

ish said...

PUT IT IN YOUR BACK POCKET, FREDDIE.

L-girl said...

wow, i came in right on cue.

NO we are NOT glad tito waited on bot! NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

and

NO

Amy said...

Truly LMAO. That was like me in gym.

L-girl said...

now i am so sure that we will win this game that i am leaving again.

enjoy some very dirty water!

Amy said...

What if he had brought Pap in in the 10th, say,...who would we bring in now?

redsock said...

NO we are NOT glad tito waited on bot! NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

and

NO


NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

no

ish said...

What if he had brought Pap in in the 10th, say,...who would we bring in now?

Timlin prolly.

Zenslinger said...

I'm watching this while madly packing for my Boston trip. Will see the Tuesday Rays game.

Amy said...

And so, Ish, would that make us feel better? BRinging Timlin in when we have the lead?

I am not persuaded.

redsock said...

What if he had brought Pap in in the 10th, say,...who would we bring in now?

the best remaining arm we got out there.

he risked timlin being timlin while having bot sit on his ass.

bad tito -- no chaw!

phil said...

Insurance runs, please.

ish said...

DOUBLE STEAL!!!

phil said...

First SB for Lowell this year.

Amy said...

Damn, Tek, where is your hot bat?

redsock said...

bot in the 10th is an irrelevant question. you cannot go back in time and replay the game. maybe he fans the side, the sox get excited and win in 11.

can't know. all we can do is judge the decision at the time it was made.

and tito effed up -- but it looks like he may esacpe with a win after all.

Patrick said...

Wow, nice call Red Socks. That's crazy1!@$@#$%#!$

redsock said...

busy typing a comment - missed the sbs.

phil said...

Allan predicted a win in 14, so I'm dreading the bottom of this inning.

ish said...

BALTIMORE SHOWS ITS DEFENSIVE PROWESS!!!

Amy said...

Whooaaaa. Have they been this bad all season? What awful fielding.

phil said...

Insurance runs are good.

redsock said...

nice arm!

Patrick said...

YESSS!!!!! The Orioles want to go to bed.

YESSSSS

redsock said...

HERNANDEZBALLA!

ish said...

This is like being given car insurance for free!

Amy said...

I think the Os have given up.

Amazing how they just blew this inning. Bizarre.

redsock said...

i think they went to bed about 10 minutes ago

phil said...

There have been more than five hundred thousand errors all time. The Os own four of them tonight.

Patrick said...

Lets win this 9-2

Amy said...

Pitcher is losing it. He was pitching pretty well til his infielders starting fielding like me in gym.

redsock said...

run wild!!!!!!!!!!!!

phil said...

Defensive indifference. Loving it.

redsock said...

Defensive indifference

yeah, i don't care where this throw ends up!!!!!!!!!!!!

Amy said...

How can it be defensive indifference when you are losing?

Amy said...

OK, Bot, put the Os out of their misery and get three fast outs.

redsock said...

cbs gave lugo an SB

Patrick said...

The radio dudes said it was DI

redsock said...

note: i don't want to win in 14.

Patrick said...

Wowzer. So to make up for our 2 hour games, were making this one a 5 hour rompus.

redsock said...

a quick inning will end this game at midnight -- right when i can leave work!!!

phil said...

Not Aardsma? Why've we been saving him?

Patrick said...

What time zone is Ontario?

ish said...

Lyndon stole three bases tonight. First time a Red Sox player has stolen three bases since Jerry Remy stole four bases - June 14th, 1980.

Amy said...

Now that's how you throw across the field.

redsock said...

eastern -- same as boston.

ish said...

Wow! Barehanded Baltimore Chop!

redsock said...

barehanded RX - sweet!

Amy said...

Toronto: Eastern time. Right near Detroit.

redsock said...

bynum chases ball 4 for a K!

Amy said...

I love Pap. I love him in the 13th. :)

phil said...

Yeah, but it's crazy how Detroit's in the eastern timezone. No reason for Canada to mess it up too.

Amy said...

Sounds like only Sox fans are left.

Amy said...

We WIN! On the road and everything!

phil said...

Water.

redsock said...

so dirty.

ish said...

THE WATER IS DIRTY!!!

And Boston ends tonight 2 for 2. Celtics win and are going to the NBA Finals, and the Red Sox break a tie in the 13th inning and I think... I think I think we got some damn near MUDDY water!

Patrick said...

I LOVE THAT DIRTY WATER!

phil said...

That was Payton, not Bynum.

redsock said...

That was Payton, not Bynum.

even better!

ish said...

Yeah, but it's crazy how Detroit's in the eastern timezone. No reason for Canada to mess it up too.

Funny thing is how in hockey, the Detroit Red Wings are in the Western Conference.

Well, so is Nashville, which is even stranger.

redsock said...

alright - i'm throwing up the linescore and heading for home!!

Zenslinger said...

I realize fantasy stuff is annoying. But it's worth saying: I got 7 SB tonight. 3 from LBJ, 1 from Youk, 1 from Aaron Roward, and 2 from BJ Upton.

Amy said...

Good night, all. Perhaps someone will be kind enough to explain why Bailey is called Gumball.

redsock said...

Glossary:
Gumball: Jeff Bailey - Was using a gumball machine at a truck stop between Scranton and Rochester in the wee hours of the morning when he was told that the Red Sox were calling him up.

SoSock said...

That was a long one, eh?
Got in just in time to "see" the last 2 K's on GDGD.
Beckett's line looked OK. 2 full innings for Jeemer? And White Flag in the 12th - scary.
Have to agree with Allan on this one. Use Bot up. I'd rather see Timlin out there with the 3-run lead than out there when any damage loses the game. Worked out this time - in spite of management, though, not because of.
And if you think Nashville in the west is strange - when the Panthers started out they were in the NFC West, and we have an Atlantic coastline!

9casey said...

I really don't understand your postgame post....You agree wtih Francona till the 12th? Is that right? But with Timlin coming in with the game on the line , which it was basically since inning 1. You don't agree with ...It seems as though if Mike Timlin could change his name or age , the move would have been Franconian and not Gumpian.....I think with the logic you are using Papelbon should have been called on in the 9th, am I reading that right?

L-girl said...

Toronto: Eastern time. Right near Detroit.

Toronto is not right near Detroit. It's much closer to Buffalo. And across Lake Ontario from Rochester.

redsock said...

You agree wtih Francona till the 12th? Is that right? ... I think with the logic you are using Papelbon should have been called on in the 9th, am I reading that right?

If I recall from the live posts, I loved Jeemer in the 7th -- that seemed like a Playoff Tito love, to go for the throat. At that point, I thought he'd go MDC/Bot in the 8/9. But Jeemer pitched the 8th too.

I was a little surprised at MDC in the 9th, but actually basically cool with it. He was the 2nd best pitcher out there at that point.

I did not like Lopez to start the 10th, but with two LHH to start, you could see Tito's logic.

I hated the Hansen move. At first, I said I'd rather see Timlin, mainly because while Timlin sucks, he wouldn't be overwhelmed by any situation.

Hansen in the 11th was a gutsy move. Maybe Tito would have gone to Bot if Hansen hadn't retired both the 8 and 9 batters. But that gamble paid off.

Timlin in the 12th is just wrong.

I assumed that if things got hairy in any of the 10-11-12 innings that we see Bot. But since Timlin was left in after the double, I'm not so sure we would have seen Bot in the 10th or 11th if Hansen had slipped.

Jack Marshall said...

I parted company with Tito when he didn't bring in Papelbon in the 12th, after Timlin got in trouble.That just makes no sense to me: you have to avoid losing the game at that point, no matter what.

Recognizing that you hate, hate, hate the strategy of holding out the closer in extras until the team goes ahead, and advocate putting in the best first, I do think Tito's approach is more justifiable when the team's hitting is crap, like now. When the team is hitting, it makes more sense to go for a quick win, and have Pap out there earlier as you have so vividly argued.

The Hansen move is pure Francona, and may be one of them that pays off spectacularly long-term. Hansen needs to be a force in the pen, and trusting him to get out of his own mess and having him come up big may turn into a tipping point for him.

It was interesting listening to Jim Palmer last night rave about DelCarmen, even while he was in trouble. "Whatever was wrong with him, I'd say it's fixed," he said at one point.

Maybe this was the tipping point for the whole bullpen. If Okajima, Hansen and DelCarmen are solid, the road record will get bettter in a hurry.

redsock said...

I do think Tito's approach is more justifiable when the team's hitting is crap, like now. When the team is hitting, it makes more sense to go for a quick win

Except you never know when a 6-run inning will happen and we know this team *can* hit, so I disagree. When the team is hitting, you never long how long it will continue. If you did, managing would be much easier.

However maddening, this does appear to be Tito's plan in these types of situations. We've seen it work and we've seen it fail.

The Hansen move is pure Francona, and may be one of them that pays off spectacularly long-term.

I agree. As I said at the time (though in anger) this is "trust the kids" night for Tito. It worked and I hope Hansen builds on it. He looked fantastic.

9casey said...

redsock said...


I hope Hansen builds on it. He looked fantastic.


I think his results were fantastic but his pitches were up and he couldn't get his slider to drop out of the zone.....Just an observation.

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