Dennis Eckersley (1992, A's) was the last pitcher to win the AL MVP award. The last NL pitcher to do so was Bob Gibson (1968, Cardinals).
Young - who had the 4th best-OPS on his own team - also received one vote for second and one vote for third.
Jim Ingraham of the News-Herald (Ohio) left Verlander off his ballot, saying he does not believe (contrary to BBWAA rules) pitchers should be eligible for the MVP. ... Ellsbury received a 10th place vote, but it wasn't from Grant. (Anyone wanna bet on George A. King III?)
Baseball Bloggers Alliance, AL Player of the Year
1st Place Points Jose Bautista 11 225 Jacoby Ellsbury 5 200 Miguel Cabrera 3 183 Curtis Granderson 1 135 Justin Verlander 2 126 Adrian Gonzalez 109 Dustin Pedroia 68 Robinson Cano 55 Ian Kinsler 35 Michael Young 28My BBA Ballot
1. Jose Bautista, Blue Jays
2. Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox
3. Miguel Cabrera, Tigers
4. Adrian Gonzalez, Red Sox
5. Curtis Granderson, Yankees
6. Justin Verlander, Tigers
7. Alex Avila, Tigers
8. David Ortiz, Red Sox
9. Alex Gordon, Royals
10. Paul Konerko, White Sox
As I said last night, ESPN's Jeremy Lundblad makes a strong case for Jacoby Ellsbury.
Lundblad uses WAR (wins above replacement) to make his case. And by that measure, Ellsbury's season was the best in MLB since 2007. According to Fangraphs, Ellsbury accounted for 9.4 wins more than a replacement level player would have provided. Bautista (8.3), Dustin Pedroia (8.0), Ian Kinsler (7.7), and Miguel Cabrera (7.3) round out the Top 5. (Curtis Granderson and Justin Verlander tied for seventh place, with 7.0.)
FanGraphs WAR (pitchers not included in this chart)
Baseball Reference also uses WAR, but they compute it differently. B-Ref has Bautista and Verlander tied for first place (8.5), followed by Ellsbury (7.2), Cabrera (7.1), Adrian Gonzalez (6.9), and Pedroia and CC Sabathia (6.8). (Granderson did not make the Top 10, and had an Offensive WAR of 5.4)
WAR FG + BR = Add Bautista 8.3 8.5 16.8 Ellsbury 9.4 7.2 16.6 Verlander 7.0 8.5 15.5 Cabrera 7.3 7.1 14.4Jeff Zimmerman, FanGraphs:
You can set your watch to it: Every year after the MVP awards are announced, people complain about who got — or didn't get — votes. We SABR nerds at Fangraphs are no different. But, of course, we look at things a little differently. With that in mind, here are some SABR-darlings who haven't gotten a single MVP vote in five years — and why that might not change this year.
6 comments:
Michael Silverman, Herald
1. Jacoby Ellsbury
2. Jose Bautista
3. Curtis Granderson
4. Justin Verlander
5. Miguel Cabrera
6. CC Sabathia
7.Dustin Pedroia
8. Ian Kinsler
9. Adrian Gonzalez
10. Alex Avila
Peter Abraham, Globe
1. Justin Verlander
2. Jacoby Ellsbury
Ken Rosenthal, Fox
1. Jacoby Ellsbury
Jim Ingraham of The News-Herald (Ohio) voted Bautista first and left Verlander off his ballot. He believes - contrary to the rules he is supposed to follow - that pitchers should not be eligible for the MVP award.
“I’d wrestled with this for a long time. If I was ever going to vote for pitcher for MVP, it would be him this year. He hasn’t appeared in 79 percent of their games, any starting pitcher really doesn’t appear in 79 percent of his team’s games in a year. Would you vote for an NFL quarterback for MVP if he only appeared in three of his team’s 16 games, which would 21 percent? So that’s part of it. Another part of it is I think they’re apples and oranges. The guys that are in there every day, there’s a grind to a season that a starting pitcher doesn’t, I don’t think, experience the way the everyday position players do playing 150, 160 games.”
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PeteAbe explains his ballot:
1. Justin Verlander
2. Jacoby Ellsbury
3. Jose Bautista
4. Robinson Cano
5. Ben Zobrist
6. Ian Kinsler
7. Curtis Granderson
8. Dustin Pedroia
9. Miguel Cabrera
10. Alex Gordon
Toughest omissions:
Adrian Gonzalez
CC Sabathia
Wow, great post. A lot to take in.
Peter Abraham explained his reasoning. But there's a sentiment in there that I've seen coming from a lot of the Verlander-MVP camp. It makes me want to kill.
"Is there any way the Tigers win the Central without Verlander? I don't see how."
All these pro-Verlander people seem to be operating under this Candyland premise that if Verlander wasn't on the Tigers, or if he didn't have such a good year, then all those games in which he pitched and the Tigers won would've been automatically forfeited. I think the fact that pitchers get "wins/losses" included in their stats are clouding people's minds.
I'm sure there are legitimate reasons to award Verlander MVP, but that isn't one of them. I never see people applying the same reasoning to Ellsbury's season. "Without Ellsbury the Sox would've lost 162 games!"
That's like idiots saying that Bot is gone, we have no closer - like no one will be able to pitch the 9th, so we will forfeit games. Or when we dumped a shortstop, like we'd have a gaping hole out there with no fielder, as though it was against the rules to fill the position with someone else.
Another strange reasoning is that (for example) Ellsbury batted 700 times and Verlander faced 700 batters, so that negates the "he pitches only once every 5 games" excuse.
Except Verlander can face 35 batters in 1 game, while 35 PAs from Ellsbury can affect 7 games. It's arguing apples and rowboats.
(An attorney where I work - a MFY fan - made this argument to me a few weeks ago, that verlander faces as many batters as Ellsbury had PA. Then again, he likes pitcher wins and RBI (i.e., Granderson > Ellsbury).) He thought Verlander should win, so I'll give him this argument next time I see him.
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