July 23, 2008

G103: Red Sox 6, Mariners 3 (12)

Red Sox  - 002 001 000 003 - 6 11  0
Mariners - 000 102 000 000 - 3 11 2
Sweep! The bullpen was the story today.

Justin Masterson -- After Buchholz allowed a game-tying home run to Jose Vidro in the sixth, he walked Adrian Beltre on four pitches and allowed a single to Jeremy Reed. Masterson, who had begun warming when Boston had a 3-1 lead, came in (so much for Terry Francona's wish for a 10-run lead for Masterson's first relief appearance). The bald rookie was up to the high-leverage task, however, needing only seven pitches to whiff both Kenji Johjima and Bryan LaHair. He then set down the Mariners in order in the seventh (L9, 4-3, L7) and eighth (3-1, K, 5-3).

Hideki Okajima -- Got two quick outs to start the ninth -- the second one on a stupendous running catch in short left-center by Jacoby Ellsbury (who had ended the seventh with a over-the-head grab after sprinting to the warning track in left). Then Jeemer walked pinch-hitter Miguel Cairo on four pitches. Out came Tito.

Manny Delcarmen -- With the winning run on first, MDC fell behind Willie Bloomquist 2-0, got two fouls, and then a grounder to second. On to the 10th. MDC retired Ichiro Suzuki on a fly to short center and fanned Jose Lopez and Raul Ibanez.

Jonathan Papelbon -- Opened the 11th by being unable to field Vidro's chopper down the first base line. It probably should have been an error on Bot, but Vidro got credit for a hit. Beltre, swinging for a heroic dong, struck out on four pitches. Yuniesky Betancourt singled to right-center, and Vidro (who had been off with the pitch) raced to third. But Johjima grounded a 1-2 pitch to third and Lowell started a routine 5-4-3 double play.

(In the top of the 12th, the Red Sox scored three times. Ellsbury singled to right and took second on Dustin Pedroia's grounder to second. Drew was intentionally walked. Kevin Youkilis's fly ball to deep center glanced off Bloomquist's glove for an error, loading the bases. Mike Lowell singled to left, scoring two runs. After a pitching change, Sean Casey singled in the third run of the inning.)

Craig Hansen -- With one out, Bloomquist's chopper hit off Hansen's glove for a single. Ichiro flew out to center, but Lopez singled and Hansen began nibbling, walking Ibanez to load the bases. After John Farrell came out and told him to get his head out of his ass, Hansen fell behind Vidro 3-0 (grrrrrr) -- putting Boston one errant pitch away from what would have been a highly annoying loss -- then got a called strike before getting a routine, game-ending ground ball to Pedroia.

Buchholz pitched well for five innings, allowing only four hits (one of them a solo home run from Ibanez) and striking out six. He also picked Ichiro off first base in the first inning. HH finished with a 5.1-7-3-2-7, 98 line.

Also: Rays 4, Athletics 3 and Yankees 5, Twins 1.

***

Clay Buchholz (5.88, 74 ERA+) / Felix Hernandez (2.95, 135 ERA+)

Afternoon baseball at Psycho Field!

After needing 37 pitches to get through the first inning in his last start, Buchholz will alter his pre-game routine, so that, as the Herald puts it, "his first inning feels more like his second or third". HH:
When I get maybe three-quarters of the way through, [I'll] sit down for a little bit in the bullpen and then when I get up, finish the rest of it. They'll try to manipulate me sitting down and getting back up for the first time and see how that works, and maybe we can break that first-inning barrier that's there right now.
Batters are hitting .349/.431/.581 against Buchholz in the first inning this year (51 PA).

MLB.com:
[Hernandez] was sharp in his first post-All-Star start, holding the Indians to four hits and two runs over six innings, striking out nine along the way. ... Lack of run support had been a problem for Hernandez, who had to make due with an average of 3.47 runs in his first 17 starts.
Also: Athletics/Rays (0.5 GA) at 12:40 PM and Twins/Yankees (3.5 GB) at 1 PM.

514 comments:

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Patrick said...

What's a vole vo, Jacoby?

Zenslinger said...

Oh, shit! Forgot we weren't at home!

I'm totally multitasking right now.

Zenslinger said...

Decaf might help.

A Conformer said...

Sox win!

Lowell does it again.


You know this is a road game, right?

redsock said...

FSN guys are in full mope mode!!!!

Patrick said...

That's L girl. That's all I was looking for.

L-girl said...

Does Richmond still have the Confederate flag up on their state capital?

PLURAL BABY

Patrick said...

I meant, THanks, not that's.

redsock said...

These FSN guys are talking like someone killed their dog. All slow and quiet and sad.

I love it!!!

RED INK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ish said...

I would quite simply like to head west at some point. I've only been north and south from where I live. Never really east and west.

I'd also like to see more of Canada. Seen western NB (including Fredericton) and up to Rivière-du-Loup in Québec.

A Conformer said...

Before it explains, I have to wonder: how can it be in play, no out when there are runners on the corners?

phil said...

Hansen or Lopez?

A Conformer said...

OK, just a GDGD fuckup.

Patrick said...

I went to a highland games in North Carolina, and for some reason they had a group of guys in Civil War gear marching around with a snare drum. The same group lead the highland games parade.

The guy on the PA also told us about their real name for the war.

L-girl said...

s1c, I didn't mean US territories! Although I'd like to go to PR. I meant the Cdn territories - way north.

So far we've only been to 3 provinces, but we'll get there, I hope.

L-girl said...

Patrick, I thought so. :)

Were they re-enacters? Or just disgruntled descendants of slaveowners?

ish said...

On the way to Riviére-du-Loup, I went through a town that had the funniest name of any town I've been in.

Saint-Louis-du-Ha! Ha!

True story.

L-girl said...

Ish, there's a lot of US west of where you are, eh?

Joe Grav said...

YES!!! sweep time

Patrick said...

Were they re-enacters? Or just disgruntled descendants of slaveowners?

Re-enacters. Of course, the second part is at least half true.

phil said...

Hansen it is.

Patrick said...

Who went down to bring up Masterson?

redsock said...

Aaaaaaaaardsma went on the DL.

ish said...

Ish, there's a lot of US west of where you are, eh?

Yep. Just a little.

Looking on a map, the furthest west I have been is Gainesville, Florida, which is about due south of Cleveland.

phil said...

It's sad that the only folks who care about the Civil War in this country are folks who celebrate treason in defense of slavery.

redsock said...

DON'T FUCK AROUND, HANSEN - STEP ON THEIR THROATS!!!!!

s1c said...
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L-girl said...

Re-enacters - what a concept! Crazy shit. Cool that you saw them.

Newfoundland has great place names.

Actually I just like place names. All the French, English, Indian, Dutch names all over the NE US, and elsewhere. It's cool.

Jere said...

PR is one of my fave places on Earth.

Patrick said...

Placentia Bay, NFLD

L-girl said...

It's sad that the only folks who care about the Civil War in this country are folks who celebrate treason in defense of slavery.

Sad that they celebrate it, or sad that other folks don't care about it?

A Conformer said...

Newfoundland has great place names.

Actually I just like place names. All the French, English, Indian, Dutch names all over the NE US, and elsewhere. It's cool.


Have you read Bill Bryson's 'Made in America'. Great chapter on place names.

ish said...

Heh. Placentia.

Jere said...

our pitchers have serious issues with weak little grounders.

Zenslinger said...

A lot of "awfulizing" goes on about the South. Yes, it's bad in many ways. But there's a quieter and more polite kind of racism that goes on in the North that isn't pretty either.

The funny thing is now that I live in the West, people I meet (especially my students) are a little puzzled over the whole "North/South" thing.

s1c said...

L-girl, I meant the Canadian Territories also, I enjoy those types of trips.

ish said...

Quieter, polite racism. That's a good way of putting it.

andy said...

Just got home. Did Tito really pitch Bot in a no save situation to secure the win?

Patrick said...

This might call for some ice cream...

SEE YA!

s1c said...

Can we just get one more out please? Pretty Please???

A Conformer said...

Hansen- DON'T fuck this up.

Zenslinger said...

Yeah.

And it seems a lot of people have a lot to say about the South who don't know it very well. For better or worse, I grew up in the "real South". And it's as bad as you hear about in some ways, but there is a context there that makes it a little more human.

ish said...

Just can't put 'em away.

L-girl said...

A lot of "awfulizing" goes on about the South. Yes, it's bad in many ways. But there's a quieter and more polite kind of racism that goes on in the North that isn't pretty either.

I wasn't implying there's no racism in the north, far from it. Just that Richmond VA is by all reports an incredibly racist city.

When MLK was campaigning, he said the worst, most virulent racism he encountered was in the white suburbs of Chicago.

One more out please??? ONE MORE OUT, NOW!!!

redsock said...

that was strike 2, fucking ump.

Joe Grav said...

There's racism everywhere. I have a hard time judging any place by its supposed political views.

I just lost the 1080 AM radio signal - DAMMITTTT.

A Conformer said...

Hansen is peeing in the water, and it's getting cleaner and cleaner...

ish said...

Where in the south was it you grew up, Zen?

ish said...

Must be interesting having grown up in the south and now end up living out west.

s1c said...

bad as you hear about in some ways, but there is a context there that makes it a little more human

Same can be said for just about any area of the world. Yin and Yang

Zenslinger said...

Hansen, you are making me more and more caffienated by the moment.

There are two outs. We need one more. Please.

ish said...


I just lost the 1080 AM radio signal - DAMMITTTT.


http://www.redsoxconnection.com/audio.html

redsock said...

anyone up in the pen?



get this chunky motherfucker

no nibbling

Joe Grav said...

103.7 FM is working now, but I don't like what it's saying. 3-0

ish said...

That was just barely a strike.

ish said...

Lopez and Timlin were warming at the beginning of the inning.

ish said...

WATER.

Jere said...

over

L-girl said...

There's racism everywhere.

That's for damn sure.

I have a hard time judging any place by its supposed political views.

I'm not doing that. Not political views, nothing to do with that.

s1c said...

Dirty!!!
Water!!!

heart attack averted!!!

Joe Grav said...

yyyyyyyyyyes

L-girl said...

about fucking time! but we did get the sweep. whew.

phil said...

Anxious water.

redsock said...

right -- fire the heater and havce him hit it -- for an OUT

back to 0.5.

s1c said...

Only the second time all year the Sox have swept a series on the road.

Woo, Woo, bring on the MFY's!!!

A Conformer said...

Oooofff...

That's very lucky, because a Vidro grand slam would've started about 3 apocalypses.

Zenslinger said...

I grew up in Miami one year. People said then that it was not really the South -- kind of like a branch of NYC. A friend of mine who lives there now described it as not really the USA -- "the capital of Latin America".

I lived in Mandeville, Lousiana for three years. An old-style south town transforming itself into a bedroom community for New Orleans in the early eighties...culturally speaking, the fur was really flying.

Then I lived in Jacksonville, Florida until I graduated from high school.

Zenslinger said...

And Hansen gets the save! (With the espresso depth charge.)

phil said...

The biggest lynching ever was in Duluth, Minnesota.

L-girl said...

There is racism everywhere, but some places are more tolerant and multicultural than others. The cultures of some cities celebrate difference - others repress it. How much or how little may be debatable, but there's little doubt some places are more racist than others, I think.

Jack Marshall said...

I don't know about you guys, but my love affair with Hansen is over, period. I don't want to see him in any situation that counts now on. Next time he's the prospect the Sox are asked to throw in on a big trade, they should take it.

A Conformer said...

A friend of mine who lives there now described it as not really the USA -- "the capital of Latin America".

I know you (or your friend) probably doesn't mean to be, but that is so US-centric it's crazy.

L-girl said...

The biggest lynching ever was in Duluth, Minnesota.

But more African Americans were lynched in southern states by far, so that's a little disingenuous.

Joe Grav said...


I'm not doing that. Not political views, nothing to do with that.


I wasn't accusing you of doing so, either. ;) It's something that I'm definitely guilty of personally, from time to time.

L-girl said...

I know you (or your friend) probably doesn't mean to be, but that is so US-centric it's crazy.

I was going to say something like that.

Jere said...

"my love affair with Hansen is over, period. I don't want to see him in any situation that counts now on."

I've been waiting three years for mine to begin. He was only in tonight because we were past Pap. He obviously has what it takes. But will he figure out how to use it....

ish said...

Man. This is weird. Instead of saying "good night everyone!" I'm thinking... now what?

Jere said...

Craig needs to tap into his skills. He needs to be Sleep Tap-nea, not Sleep Crap-nea.

s1c said...

3 appearances for the bot in this series, a total of 39 pitches? Thats what NESN is saying, is that corect Sock?

That is some good pitching for 3 2/3 innings.

L-girl said...

Well, good night everyone from me.

I'm glad I got to see a game this week! I'll be around tomorrow night, and hopefully it will be slow at work this weekend.

Patrick said...

As a matter of fact, Everyone is a little bit Racist.

Check it out.

redsock said...

Jack, you came in to give Tito a backhanded compliment and then you shit on Hansen. I think that was the extent of your game posts. You see anything today you liked?

Zenslinger said...

A friend of mine who lives there now described it as not really the USA -- "the capital of Latin America".

If I had heard it from just anyone, I would have thought they meant, "Holy shit there are so many Hispanics here!" But from my friend, who's smart and chooses to live there (and is not white himself), I think he's really saying that it's a center of Latin culture. Just as you might call DC or Atlanta the capital of black American culture.

redsock said...

Mon: 1.2 IP, 0 H, 15 PIT
Tue: 1.0 IP, 0 H, 9 PIT
Wed: 1.0 IP, 2 H, 15 PIT

3.2 IP
39 PIT
2 H
0 R
0 BB
1 K

One of the hits should have been an error.

L-girl said...

Everyone has some racism, it's true. But there's a huge difference between someone who actively hates people who are different and thinks they are superior - and sees nothing wrong with that - and people who are actively trying to be open-minded, fair and nonbiased.

I agree that all places and people have racism, but I think it's silly to act like there are not degrees, or a wide range, that some are worse than others.

redsock said...

I cannot recall the exact gane, but Hansen came in with men on earlier this year and blew the opps away.

Huge balls! We all freaked out at the time!

Extra inning game, I believe.

L-girl said...

I think he's really saying that it's a center of Latin culture. Just as you might call DC or Atlanta the capital of black American culture.

Ah, so he means Latinos in America, as in the US. Not "Latin America", which takes in all the different Latino countries.

Jere said...

L: You know there's no game tomorrow night, right? Or did you mean something else?

L-girl said...

But now I gotta go because we're hungry. Adios, mi amigos.

ish said...

I cannot recall the exact gane, but Hansen came in with men on earlier this year and blew the opps away.

Huge balls! We all freaked out at the time!

Extra inning game, I believe.


June 14th?

I say that because he saved the game when I was out meandering around southeastern VT/northern MA. And I know that was June 14th.

Patrick said...

What's everyone doing after the game?

Zenslinger said...

Ah, so he means Latinos in America, as in the US. Not "Latin America", which takes in all the different Latino countries.

My interpretation is that he thought it was a very international place.

But enough of that -- enjoy dinner.

redsock said...

Not sure about June 14. Doesn't look like it.

redsock said...

We are ordering a pizza, getting some red wine and sitting out in the back yard with the pookies.

redsock said...

June 22 looks more likely.

s1c said...

Well I had dinner during the game, mmm, stuffed sole and yellow squash with some nice watermelon and black cherries for desert. yum, yum.

See you on friday night as its Fenway park and the MFY's!!!

Joe Grav said...

Man, I'm tired. I can't wait to get back to Boston.

ish said...

Man, I'm tired. I can't wait to get back to Boston.

Not much of a BoltBus then, right?

Amy said...

Sure wish I had been able to continue the NYC conversation, but I did get to see chunks of the game at the pizza place. Not the ending though. Sounded like a tense bottom of the 12th.

I love Boston---the architecture, the parks, the history; I find Washington beautiful and the museums are great; I just went to Chicago for my first trip and loved it---great architecture, great art museum, great zoo, etc.; San Francisco is fascinating as well. But none measures up to NYC for energy, cultural opportunities, excitement, restaurants, theater, etc. Just my opinion. Unlike S1C, for me there are many things that you can only find in NYC.

OK, just had to get my two cents in, even though the party is over!

SOX SWEEP -- now let's sweet the NEW YORK Yankees!

9casey said...

It might be redundant to say , but in close games Ellsbury is key , he has to get on base more often some how some way....

Tito brilliant

Masterson = very good
Rest of bullpen= B+
(someone tell Hansen he throws 95)

As for NYC ,gotta get there ish just for the sure awe of it.


Big cities to me and anyplace you got to are all about the people you meet and the people you are with...I had one of my best times ever in Lawerence, Kansas....People make places special.

tim said...

not sure if anyone seen this, pretty sweet...

nixon33 said...

craig hansen you fucking fuck. hey we won! we swept!
now on to fenway with a another. fuck the yanks

nixon33 said...

oh yeah... and masterson gets the game ball. i hope he can be our secret weapon going forward. not getting ahead of myself. just hopeful. we need him to be good.

phil said...

Extra Bases:
Hansen went to 3 and 0 on Vidro, and homicidal thoughts flowed freely through the Sox dugout. But Hansen saved himself a long flight home by throwing a strike, then getting a roller to Pedroia to end it.

Project much? It's one thing to admit homicidal thoughts were freely flowing through the press box. It's another to ascribe them to teammates, absent a quote or other indication that Edes isn't just making it up to add a rhetorical flourish.

Amy said...

That is a great clip, Tim. Maybe we should try and get Pena, Jr. for our bullpen....

Jack Marshall said...

To answer redsock's question, "did I see anything I liked"...well, of course! Almost everything:

Masterson, Lowell's doubleplay start and clutch hit, LBJ's two terrific plays, Lowrie getting it done, some of HH's pitches, Drew's dash for the plate, Pedroia as always,in the field and at bat, DelCarmen in good form, Tito's managing (he appears to have finally listened to you about bring Papelbon into tied games). But anyone and everyone saw the same things. What's the point in chiming in?

I saw two things with larger significance, one positive and one negative, that I don't think are entirely obvious: 1) Tito's cahnging the way he uses the bullpen, and late is better than never, and 2) Hansen, in my view, has used up his wishin' and hopin' points for this season.

It's the best team in baseball--I think that's been obvious since the season started. Ortiz wnet down and it didn't lose a step---how many other teams could do that? So now it's about getting rid of the nagging flaws that have kept the race close.

I don't know why that approach is so annoying, but its the way I think about the team, and always have.
I cheer in front of the TV and in the stands, but generally not on-line. So shoot me.

L-girl said...

To answer redsock's question, "did I see anything I liked"...well, of course! Almost everything:

Perhaps you'd consider sharing some of your happiness along with your unhappiness.

I don't know why that approach is so annoying,

You don't?

Imagine a friend of yours who *only* ever carps and complains. His toast was burnt that morning, his socks are too tight around his ankles, and damn, the price of milk is so high.

This friend has a great career, a wonderful wife who loves him, and two healthy, happy children.

Yet all he ever does is complain.

If you imagine this scenario, you will perhaps begin to understand why your comments get under people's skin.

but its the way I think about the team, and always have.
I cheer in front of the TV and in the stands, but generally not on-line. So shoot me.


No one is shooting you. Just perhaps throwing up their hands and rolling their eyes in frustration.

And perhaps less interested in discussing some of the excellent points you raise, because you seem never to join in the fun, only to stand at the ready with your club, waiting to bash.

I say this with much respect for your knowledge of baseball and the Red Sox. I hope you will receive it in that spirit.

redsock said...

But anyone and everyone saw the same things. What's the point in chiming in?

Well, I could say we all saw Hansen nearly implode too. But you chimed in there.

Tito's cahnging the way he uses the bullpen, and late is better than never

I don't see a difference, to be honest. Masterson's spot ended up being (probably) too hi-lev for Tito's tastes, but he was warming when it was 3-1, so he used him. With perfect results!!! Then he used Jeemer, MDC and Bot -- a normal progression and more or less an inning each -- saving Bot until the 11th (the Sox 12th had the top of the order up, so that seemed like a good chance for a run and the lead). And then with a comfy three-run lead, Hansen ... Seems like typical Tito to me.

What is different about that? (Maybe yanking Jeemer after a solitary 2-out walk?)

So now it's about getting rid of the nagging flaws that have kept the race close.

That will be impossible. No team of 25 guys can be perfect. Ellsbury and Tek may get hot, but then Pedroia and Yook will stop hitting. Hansen and MDC may become more consistent, but then the starters will misfire.

It cannot be helped. The nagging flaws will not go away.

Jack Marshall said...

I thought it was obvious, but I guess not: I don't have a laptop. My TV is three flights of stairs below my office, and I have an artificial hip. I can't comment during the game...I can only dash up the stairs during NESN breaks to make what I sometimes erroneously think is a valid observation. I catch up on the thread a little, dash off something, and run downstairs. If I'm on the thread, I'm missing the play. That measn that I have to pass on the whimiscal stuff and game chatter, which I would normally enjoy a lot.

I DO think Tito has changed, even at the risk of agreeing with Remy. He's playing the hot hand more; he's showing less patience. He's even showing a willingness to stretch out Papelbon a bit.

Sure, the team's never perfect. But a team can maximize its assets. The Angels. The 1999 Sox. The '67 Sox.
In management you keep identifying problems and addressing them, knowing that it never ends. That's what I like about Theo---he tries to fix problems, sometimes before they even kick in. What I don't like, often, about Tito is that he's less of a problem-solver than he is a "make do withwhat you have" guy. That has its strengths and adherants---it's just not my favorite approach.

L-girl said...

I thought it was obvious, but I guess not: I don't have a laptop. My TV is three flights of stairs below my office, and I have an artificial hip. I can't comment during the game.

Neither desktop computer nor replacement hip should be an impediment to even occasionally praising the team or sharing your supposed enjoyment of the season with us.

That just makes no sense.

And no, it wasn't obvious. I don't know why it would be.

I'm not suggesting you do anything differently. I'm merely explaining why you encounter the reactions you do, or lack thereof.

Jack Marshall said...

Well, I'm the same way as a stage director---I tell people what needs to be better and how, and if I don't say anything, it is presumed that I'm satisfied. Unless something is really, really special. Drives the insecure actors nuts, so I go out of my way to tell them shen they do good.

I assumed, foolishly, that a pattern of chatting before and after games with only occasional comments after innnings would lead to some assumption that I wasn't around for most of the thread.

Nobody, and I mean nobody, is raised to exultant heights and slammed to the floor of the valley of depression by the Boston Red Sox on a daily basis more than I am. A loss literally ruins my whole day, almost regardless of what else has transpired. Sorry that I can't communicate that passion---that's just the way the mad doctor made me.

redsock said...

Nobody, and I mean nobody, is raised to exultant heights and slammed to the floor of the valley of depression by the Boston Red Sox on a daily basis more than I am.

I used to be like that ... I took a shot of 2004 with a 2007 chaser and it cleared right up.

It's worked for a lot of people, I hear, but it's not 100% effective.

9casey said...

Jack Marshall said...
Sorry that I can't communicate that passion---that's just the way the mad doctor made me.


I beleive you do communicate your passion. But I also believe you just don't do this with the Red Sox.

You just seem like that coach, teacher , or parent .you just can't make happy...The doctor didn't make you that way you choose to be this way..

Amy said...

Jack, I am glad you explained why you don't post during games. I wondered why you only tended to post before and after games, although I certainly didn't think it was odd. Many people post only periodically.

I find your comments insightful, so I hope you will keep posting, negatively or positively.

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