September 9, 2007

G144: Red Sox 3, Orioles 2

Beckett (7-7-2-0-8, 116) lowered his ERA to 3.27. He allowed two solo home runs. Jemmer and The Bot finished up.

For those who care about such things, Beckett received credit for his 18th win (18-6). (Please keep in mind that in his absolutely shitty 2006 season, Beckett led the Red Sox with 16 victories.) Chien-Ming Wang of the Yankees won today in Kansas City and is also 18-6.

With the score tied 2-2 in the eighth, JD Drew lead off with a single. Youkilis lined out to second. With Jason Varitek batting, Drew stole second and went to third as Tek flew to center. Coco Crisp singled Drew home with the go-ahead run.

Boston got their other runs in the third. With two outs, Dustin Pedroia singled and David Ortiz doubled. Mike Lowell then singled them both in.

***

Josh Beckett (3.30, 138 ERA+) / Jeremy Guthrie (3.65, 122 ERA+)

In three of his past four starts, Guthrie has tossed at least six innings and allowed three or fewer runs. Jay Payton is hitting .381 (8-for-21) against Beckett.

110 comments:

s1c said...

From the Globe:
1. Jacoby Ellsbury, LF
2. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Mike Lowell, 3B
5. J.D. Drew, RF
6. KevinYoukilis, 1B
7. Jason Varitek, C
8. Coco Crisp, CF
9. Alex Cora, SS
--Josh Beckett, SP

Orioles

1. Brian Roberts, 2B
2. Tike Redman, CF
3. Nick Markakis, RF
4. Miguel Tejada, DH
5. Aubrey Huff, 1B
6. Melvin Mora, 3B
7. Ramon Henandez, C
8. Freddie Bynum, LF
9. Luis Hernadez, SS
-- Jeremy Guthrie, SP


I think that Francona has found his lead off hitter!!

L-girl said...

Me likey :)

redsock said...

Swamped with work -- instead of 3 people here, there is 1 - me.

L and I will try to approve comments asap - Go Sox.

ish said...

Pedro's pitching today for the Mets.

1-0 Mets after 1.

Tigers have the bases loaded in the 2nd inning, trailing the M's 2-0

ish said...

SNY: Pedro's got all of his pitching working today.

ish said...

That was a very good AB for Pedroia. Works the count, fights off some good pitches, then hits a right-center gapper for a double.

ish said...

Pedro had a chance to strike out 4 in the 3rd inning. He K'd Biggio but the ball bounced at home plate and went to the backstop and Biggio reached. He struck out the next two guys, then gave up a single to Mark Loretta. Mike Lamb then flew out to center to end the inning. That would have been awesome to see Pedro strike out four in an inning.

ish said...

Pedro just led off the bottom of the 3rd with a double over the head of Carlos Lee! Heh. Wow.

ish said...

By the way, that double he hit was off of Roy Oswalt.

s1c said...

This date in history - 1978 standings:

Bos 86-55
NYY 85-56

This date in 78 was a Saturday and the Sox lost their third straight game as D. Eckersley lost to R. Guidry 7-0. The 10th of Sept. would bring new meaning to the words boston massacre and introduce RSN to Bobby Sprowl.

In 2004 T. Wakefield lost to the Seattle Mariners 7-1. Wildcard lead would remain at 3.5 games.

Guthrie is on a "mission"

ish said...

Pedro was moved over on a bunt from Reyes, then Castillo walked. Beltran then hit a sac fly and scored Pedro.

Strange inning.

redsock said...

D. Eckersley lost to R. Guidry 7-0.

I was at that game. I was 14 and it was my 3rd game at Fenway. Took a VT Transit bus down with my father.

Burleson singled to start the bottom of the first, then an out, then Rice singled. Then -- no more hits for Boston.

MFY got all 7 runs in one inning -- the 4th, I think.

redsock said...

Yep, it was the 4th.

In conclusion, Don Zimmer is fucking shitheaded cockasscunt pisshole.

s1c said...

you are correct, all seven runs came in one inning the fourth. That was also Eck's only loss to the yankees that year as he won his other 4, including three straight starts on 6/21, 6/26 and 7/3.

ish said...

A-Rod hits Dong #52

2-0

s1c said...

And Beckett says Frag you Huff you are staying right there on second base.

s1c said...

A-Rod hits Dong #52

2-0


Will be good to see him cooled off in Boston (fc).

ish said...

Pedro's next AB, he grounded one to short, but Loretta, filling in for the injured Adam Everett, bobbled it and the throw to first - not in time. Pedro legged it out. Reyes quickly grounded out to short with the bases loaded to end the inning. 2-0 Mets still.

ish said...

2,3,4 coming through!

redsock said...

Rallies that start with 2 outs are fun.

ish said...

Pedro's in a bit of trouble in the 5th. 89 pitches, men at second and third. Walks Loretta. Now the bases are loaded.

Looks like he's run out of gas.

Willie Randolph's keeping him in. He's pitching from the wind-up to Mike Lamb with the bases loaded. So Pedro's running on fumes and trying to get one more batter to be in line for the win.

F8 and the inning is over. Pedro's done, pumps his fist, and he's done after having thrown 5 shutout innings at Shea.

ish said...

Pedro left the diamond with the fans chanting his name.

s1c said...

As Beckett continues to be very very good in his career year!

Most wins in a season, most K's and he has 3 starts left this season!

ish said...

Beltran doubles and Alou hits a dong. 4-0 mets.

ish said...

Beckett is DEALING. Looking good.

ish said...

10-5 M's in the Top of the 4th in Detroit. Bonderman gave up 6 runs, Grilli gave up 3. They've used four pitchers so far.

ish said...

Ouch. Make that 13-5.

tim said...

Question: How the fuck is it possible for a game between toronto and tampa bay to be delayed?

Just checked the score on yahoo....I'm busy watching football however, wtf

redsock said...

Gameday says: "Delayed (Power)"

s1c said...

Tampa should learn to pay their electric bills more quickly.

charlie pioli said...

Why doesn't gameday have the strikezone anymore?

ish said...

Ellsbury is seeing the ball so well right now, bringing his momentum from that long hitting streak in Pawtucket up here to Boston.

Lyndon is a fun player to watch.

tim said...

Interesting. Wonder if it has to do with that hurricane, but I thought that was already up the coast in S. Carolina...

ish said...

Well they get thunderstorms almost every day in Tampa Bay. Not out of the realm of possibility to have a power outage because of that.

That tropical system (tropical storm) is approaching North Carolina before it goes off the coast and bothers only the fish.

nick said...

dusty's gonna start a bcb with the umpires.

s1c said...

Was going to write how the the MFY's luck out again. Six games left against Baltimore and they will not face Bedard, but I see they have faced him more than the Sox have this year.

Fragging MORA

ish said...

Tigers get one, so now they're down a touchdown and extra point.

ish said...

Strike 'em out, THROW 'em out!

nick said...

Great throw by Tek, but Hernandez sure overslid that bag.

ish said...

YOOOOOOOOOOOOK!!!

Great footwork again from Beckett.

s1c said...

The second best team in defense flashes some leather, yeah boy!!!

ish said...

Bases loaded for Alex Gordon in KC. He's the go-ahead run.

ish said...

BASES-CLEARING DOUBLE FROM GORDON. TIE GAME!! 3-3

redsock said...

Way to go, Alex G.

ish said...

Heh. Youk steals second. That was hilarious the way he went in there. He's lucky there wasn't a throw. Failed hit n' run.

ish said...

RS, Pedro's line today: 5 IP, 6 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 4 K. 92p/65st.

redsock said...

injury delay --- yook on the sb???

redsock said...

i guess not - as tek walks.

ish said...

2-run double for Posada. 5-3 mfy

ish said...

Shite. Markakis has not been very nice this series.

ish said...

SLEEHW oCoC!!

ish said...

Mets beat the Astros 4-1. Pedro gets the win, he's now 2-0.

nick said...

varitek batted from both sides of the plate in the same AB there, didn't he? ...with the pitcher switch mid-AB.

Did you see LBJ climb the wall on that homer?

Youk, Youk, Youk.

Jere said...

s1c: Just sayin', we're in the 40th anniversary of a great pennant race that the Sox ended up winning. If you wanna talk about '78, do it on the 30th anniversary next year.

On a Yankee blog;)

ish said...

Good start here. GET BECKETT #18.

ish said...

'Tek has not been good in hit-and-run situations today.

ish said...

Seesh. Man at third, 2 out. One more chance to get Beckett in line for a win. Come on, OCOC!

tim said...

OCOC!!!!!

ish said...

YEAH OCOC!!!!! Woooo!!! That was awesome. TIMELY HITTING. Beckett owes you a beer if the Sox win.

tim said...

yes, im back from the depths of week 1 of the football season...for now.

time to catch the rest of this one then head back up to my house in waterloo...

Jere said...

Key hit by Coco in the Carbo spot, 2 outs in the eighth.

s1c said...

s1c: Just sayin', we're in the 40th anniversary of a great pennant race that the Sox ended up winning. If you wanna talk about '78, do it on the 30th anniversary next year.

Could care less about '67. Was not a Sox fan at the time, try Dodgers.

As for '78, think of it as exorcising demons. Lots of similarities between this season and that, but two big differences Pitching and Manager.

Jere said...

The Red Sox this year have kept the best record in all of baseball for almost the entire season, no major slumps. '78 Sox--huge slump, blowing a big lead. But if you're gonna bring it up, I want lots of updates in that final week when the '78 team had its amazing comeback that no one talks about.

tim said...

c'mon jeemer...jeem as you've jeemed so well before...

ish said...

VERY nice scoop Dr. D!

tim said...

Dr. D!

Good tune by local Boston ska-core favorites, Mighty Mighty Bosstones ;-)

s1c said...

But if you're gonna bring it up, I want lots of updates in that final week when the '78 team had its amazing comeback that no one talks about.

Already planned in fact if you look at that team they fell behind at least two but if I remember correctly it was 3 1/2 games, before they came back to force the tie! Was daily talk in the dorm that pennant race.

Andy said...

o we hate the announcers for the O's? Thorne and Palmer? I am not really annoyed by them. They are complimentary to Sox players and they seem to know what the hell is going on.

s1c said...

Bot time

ish said...

BOT.

Jere said...

Aubrey-ana Huffington out in the Beltway. Two more, Pap.

redsock said...

Bot 9th -- just turned TV on to watch.

L-girl said...

o we hate the announcers for the O's? Thorne and Palmer? I am not really annoyed by them. They are complimentary to Sox players and they seem to know what the hell is going on.

Yesterday I said they were the best out-of-town announcers I've heard. Really very decent.

Now back to working and modding.

Jere said...

Get 2, infield. I should've said outside the Beltway.

ish said...

A room-service grounder would be nice.

Jere said...

Mo in for the ninth for them. Don't be scared, Royals. It's the same pitch every time.

Jere said...

That's two. I want a win....

redsock said...

I see no connection between 1978 and 2007.

Might as well give updates of the 1905 Red Sox or 1942 Red Sox or 1996 Red Sox.

I do not believe in "demons" -- most of people who pushed the Curse were not Red Sox fans -- but if I'm wrong and there were any hanging around, 2004 wiped them out.

ish said...

WOOT!!!

Snuffed 'em!

14. Beckett is now an 18 game winner!

redsock said...

Why not recap 1988 -- a year in which the Yankees blew a larger-than-1978 lead to the Red Sox?

Jere said...

5.5! (at least, as KC is still alive) 18 to play....right?

redsock said...

LUV the BOT.

ish said...

Yankees just beat KC, so Wang is now an 18 game winner, as well.

ish said...

And on Saturday, game 2 of the Yankees/Red Sox series, Wang and Beckett will meet and go against each other. That will be a very fun game to watch. Certainly a Cy Young match-up.

Jere said...

Wang's an 18-game weiner.

Andy said...

Beckett was the first 18 game winner this year.

L-girl said...

W/L is so not meaningful.

L-girl said...

Detroit is really determined to mess up my plans. I'm expecting them to make a run at the wild card, then play us in the ALCS.

That scenario's becoming increasingly less likely.

What's our magic number?

Jere said...

"Wang and Beckett will meet and go against each other. That will be a very fun game to watch."

Cool, that's the one I'll be at Fenway for. Not that Nixon33 cares. Then again, you never know with rain and stuff, could be a different matchup by then.

I will celebrate this win by going to Neil Hammmmburgerrrr tonight!

redsock said...

Magic # is 14.

s1c said...

The two seasons are similar in lots of ways. A stud pitcher in their careers (Eck vs Josh), an old pitcher on the way out (Tiant vs Schilling), a consistent double digit pitcher (Torrez vs Wakefield), and a young closer (Stanley vs Papelbon).

Both teams got off to big lead over the Yankees and both teams record have been close all year as in best record since 1978 etc.

Is there any impact on the 2007 team from that team? Not really, unless you want to count the fact that Remy and Eck have brought up that season as a reason for this team not to let up numerous times this year. I also don't remember me saying that this team is going to blow this lead. I think I have been pretty positive all year about this team (except for last night when I basically said I don't want to see Daisuke the rest of the season).

I also remember that season for other reasons, mainly that fall semester being my first exposure to obnoxious Yankee fans (guy across the hall), the end of my baseball career (was the last summer I played semi-pro), and other shared memories with my father. Even though that season ended watching Yaz pop up as I skipped classes to watch the game it was still a special season in a lot of ways for me.

redsock said...

Big difference:

The 2007 Red Sox have an actual manager in the dugout rather than a stinking pile of shit.

s1c said...

I think I also pointed out that this team has a manager this year also, I think Francona should be considered manager of the year.

redsock said...

"And that," as Robert Frost has noted, "has made all the difference."



(or a lot of it, anyway)

s1c said...

Oh, one other comparison both teams had an off beat pitcher who came out of the bullpen and started games that year Spaceman Lee and Sexy Lips.

redsock said...

I don't mind the posts, but I also don't see the point.

L-girl said...

Add Robert Frost to the list with Augusto Pinochet, radical resistance theory and that Slavic philosopher whose name I never remember. Zizec. Zozec. Zoidberg.

L-girl said...

Just catching up on the game thread here. I have one question, which others have asked.

WHY DOES ANYONE TALK ABOUT 1978?

s1c said...

Wondering if J.D. will get any credit for starting the winning rally on WEEI / other blogs / newspapers tomorrow.

He gets a big atta boy from me today!

Jere said...

Yeah, I'm totally down with Sox history and stuff but in this case, and like you say, obviously this isn't why you're doing it, but to be in a season where we had a 14 game lead and now it's closer, and it's September, I just don't want to hear about 1978. But it's your call.

Magic # to make playoffs is 10. Here's why I hate the wild card: Let's say the Yanks clinch the WC before we clinch the division. At that point, we'll both be in the playoffs. So the moment we clinch the division becomes unexciting. I miss the old division races.

ish said...

I miss the old division races.

In this situation, yes. But in 2004 the wild card was certainly a good thing. Would you have said the same thing if this was 2004?

Jere said...

"Would you have said the same thing if this was 2004?"

I've talked about this before here. I totally hate the wild card, always have. Doesn't mean I'm sitting here thinking, Man, that was such a fake championship for us....

It's part of the game, and even now every year I know all we have to do is make the playoffs, division doesn't matter. I hate that that's how it is.

L-girl said...

I thought I was going to hate the wild card too, on principle. But in reality I enjoy how it creates more races and more excitement.

I want to hate it, but I don't.

redsock said...

.I totally hate the wild card, always have.

Jere and I are in 100% agreement on the wild card.

Same thing for me with the DH. I hate the idea of the DH, but that's the rule in the league my team plays in and it's nice we have a great DH, but I still hate it.

The only thing I like about interleague play (spit) is when I fill in my scorecard, I get to list the pitcher.

L-girl said...

Well, everyone knows how I feel about interleague. An abomination.

ish said...

Certainly feels so much nicer to win the division.

I love watching the pitchers hit, and I hate knowing that hitting isn't a big part of a national league pitcher's game. It's understandable for an AL pitcher to be a bad hitter in interleague play and the World Series, but an NL pitcher? Come on. Put some more effort and time into the hitting because that's a valuable spot in the batting order you're taking up.

But I guess it's too much to ask.

papa sime said...

Does anyone know where to see/read the postgame sessions the players do?

redsock said...

Try:

NESN

Various Globe stories have embedded video of post-game interviews (example)

And maybe redsox.com

9casey said...

ish said...
It's understandable for an AL pitcher to be a bad hitter in interleague play and the World Series, but an NL pitcher? Come on.



Guys who hit every fifth day are not good hitters pitchers or not...Mirabelli, Cora, Hinske, Pena...These guys all circle around 250 and lower all year.to be a good hitter takes alot of time and alot of ab's.....to expect a pitcher to do it ,in today's game, is laughable....and too actually want to see it, that's painful..

ish said...

Then laugh at me, but I love seeing pitchers come up with big hits. You're right, though. They get so little at-bats, both in the Majors and the minors (AA and AAA pitchers hit only when both teams in a game are NL affiliates) that even the best hitting pitchers are going to be below-average. But my point was that if you're pitching in the National League, you know you're going to have to bat.

But this is 2007 and teams aren't paying their pitchers large contracts to hit. I guess if you're a better hitter than pitcher they'd move you to another position, but it's a spot in the lineup that can come around in some pretty important situations. Sure, late in the game you pinch hit, but some of the best scoring opportunities come early in the game.

What would you think if teams actually did put more emphasis on hitting with their pitchers? What if it paid off? I think being able to increase the batting average of the NL pitchers, even by as little ten or twenty points, can be more beneficial to a team than you'd think. With 2 outs and men on, you're at the plate with a .105 batting average and you know your at-bat is just a formality. As a pitcher in that situation all you need to do is reach base so the top of the order can come up: work a walk, dunk one just behind the infield, find a hole, etc.

We could go on and on and on about this, but I don't think it's painful to at least try to take away the "automatic out" status from a pitcher.