Rangers - 0 20 085 101 - 17 20 2Wow.
Red Sox - (10)02 010 14x - 19 17 2
Recapping this game -- which tied the American League record for most combined runs -- is out of the question. Instead, here are a few tidbits:
David Ortiz hit two three-run home runs in the first inning, becoming the first Sock to collect six RBI in one inning since Carlos Quintana on July 30, 1991 (also against Texas!). Flo likely was robbed of a third tater in the fifth when an idiot fan reached over the wall in dead center and caught the ball.
Kevin Youkilis made the first and third outs in the first inning, both on strikeouts. He also committed two errors, one at first base and one at third. But, after hitting a two-run dong in the fifth, he blasted a three-run bomb to left in the eighth, giving Boston its margin of victory.
Dustin Pedroia went 5-for-6 and scored five runs.
The other AL game with 36 runs? The Red Sox won that one, too. June 29, 1950: Boston 22, Philadelphia 14. Three weeks earlier, the Red Sox had pounded the St. Louis Browns 20-4 and 29-4 on back-to-back days. That 1950 team could mash: it scored 1,027 runs in 154 games (6.67 per game).
The major league record is 49 runs (Chicago 26, Philadelphia 23, August 25, 1922). The Phillies recovered and shutout the Cubs 3-0 in 11 innings the next day!
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Scott Feldman (4.82, 88 ERA+) / Charlie Zink (MLB debut)
Zink, who turns 29 in two weeks:
"This is everything I have ever dreamed of. It has come true now and I'm going to the major leagues. It's ridiculous. I'm at a loss for words. I really don't know what to say about it. I'll be smiling forever now. This is just awesome. Awesome."
Zink has had an exceptional year in Pawtucket: 13-4, 2.89 in 25 starts, with a .228 opponents batting average. Two weeks ago, he said:
It just gradually kept getting better and better. Now it's finally to the point where I'm not ever worried about throwing a ball. Full counts, I'll throw a knuckleball still. I don't worry about walking people anymore.Zink was signed as an undrafted free agent in April 2002 on the recommendation of Luis Tiant, his coach at Georgia's Savannah College of Art and Design. In addition to the knuckler, he throws a fastball (low 80s, faster than Wakefield's), curve and changeup (thrown at roughly the same speed as the knuckler, 66-71).
A lot of it is me just having to believe in it. I always wanted to go back to throwing hard. Now I know I can't do that anymore, so I have to be able to figure it out to throw consistent knuckleballs up there that will move and hopefully not get hit hard.
Manny Delcarmen:
Once he became a full-time knuckleballer, I couldn't even play catch with him anymore. He just kept hitting me so much. I had bruises everywhere.Justin Masterson:
He consistently comes out and pitches like you would expect a veteran to. ... He's been working so hard that many of us thought he should have been here already. He's fun to watch ... so laid back ... slicing and dicing.Zink will be starting on only three days rest, having thrown seven innings and 104 pitches on Friday. He has pitched on short rest three times this season: 15.1 IP, 1 run, 8 BB, 13 K.
Kevin Cash, on Zink:
I caught him probably three starts last year, and he threw the ball very well. This year, obviously, what he's doing in the International League, he's probably made some drastic improvements. I've caught bits and pieces from guys coming up, and I've asked about how he's throwing.The New York Times wrote about him this past in June:
He pitches a lot like Wake as far as, he's able to throw his knuckleball for strikes and when he gets behind 2-0 or 3-1, he's still committed to throwing the knuckleball. I think that's big. If you're not committed to doing that, you're going to get in trouble throwing 80-mph fastballs when you're behind in the count.
He uses a protective gel on the nail of his index finger, because that one rubs against the ball. He grows the nail on his middle finger long so he can dig it into the ball. He calls it a "one nail and one knuckle" grip, which is what he thought he had seen Wakefield do on television all those years earlier. Wakefield actually uses two fingertips. ... "I haven't seen anybody else with this grip."The Globe's Sunday magazine featured Zink in May 2008. (His Japanese-American grandparents, while living in California, were imprisoned in a US internment camp during World War II.) ... He was also featured in The New Yorker back in May 2004.
Finally, here are two older interviews -- from 2004 and 2005.
What number will Zink get? He wears #16 with Pawtucket, but Luis Alicea has that number in Boston. It would be cool if he got 30 -- the atomic number for zinc -- but Jonathan Van Every received that number earlier this year.
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Yankees/Twins at 8 PM and Rays/Athletics at 10 PM.
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Sounds like a lot of miscommunication to me.
Unless he thought I was being sarcastic or thought I said his blog was 'awful' instead of 'awesome,' i have no idea what that was about lol
i liek rooting against the yakns, ALMSOST as much as i like rooting for the sox, call me sick, but i dont care.
twins tie it up 3-3
Tied. Unbelievable.
Of course THAT play had to be the one to tie this COOKY game!
FUCK
Fuckingshitfuckfuck.
Nix, I don't call you sick, I just call you a normal Red Sox fan!
This is stupid.
FOR FUCK SAKES! OUTS PLS
OK, quick, does anyone know the records for combined runs in a game and combined hits in a game? Do we have a shot here?
MANNY DELCARMEN IS THE MOST WORTHLESS SACK OF FUCKING SHIT.
JESUS FUCKING FUCK -- FUCK.
Useless.
Combined runs/hits, my guess is we're not even close. There are 23-22 games and stuff like that.
Which we may soon hit.
Pretty sure the record for combined runs is 48.
no, l-girl i AM sick, i listen to michael kay on espn radio!
So Feldman gives up 12 runs in under three innings and will receive a NO DECISION.
You don't give a fucking sarcastic answer for no reason.
It wasn't sarcastic. I found it hard to believe that she seriously expected me to reveal that. It was totally serious.
And the comments about making your heads hurt come across as snide insults.
Don't forget, someone scored 30 last year on their own in one game lol
MY NAME IS COCO CRISP AND I HAVE A LIMP NOODLE FOR AN ARM.
Not believable.
nixon33 said...
no, l-girl i AM sick, i listen to michael kay on espn radio!
nix , did you hear him yesterday going off about Murcer's memorial service?
Shit, we're losing.
Don't forget, someone scored 30 last year on their own in one game lol
These Texas Rangers.
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no, l-girl i AM sick, i listen to michael kay on espn radio!
Masochism isn't a sickness, it's just a personal preference.
Ortiz walk-off dong, anyone?
It wasn't sarcastic. I found it hard to believe that she seriously expected me to reveal that. It was totally serious.
And the comments about making your heads hurt come across as snide insults.
lol at all of this
I'm suprised Pedroia just didn't get that out..
did you hear him yesterday going off about Murcer's memorial service?
NO WHAT DID HE SAY????
These Texas Rangers.
Fail.
By the way, at this point, not even a win will salvage this one.
we are going to win this fucking game.
so we are down by 1 run with 4 innings to hit?
a mere bag of shells ....
So now the final score is on pace to be 24-22 Texas.
We are going to win this game.
We ARE going to WIN this game.
Mad that only Jeter and Pettite went and no other players, said it was disgusting, and the older players should be ashamed of themselves.it was wierd...Went on about how the other yankee teams would have never done that.
There was that 26-23 game from 1922.
Random guess... I'm pretty sure ALNM teaches at BC, based on the last line in his blog. Which, since I'm a math major at BC... is kind of scary. lol
Is there nothing Michael Kay doesn't go off on? He is such an angry, bitter man.
Yayyy! Side out!
Man, I hate Delcarman.
Lead-off walk. :)
ALNM, it was an innocent question and a self-mocking remark. Not sure what got you so ruffled, but anyone here can tell you that I certainly meant no harm, just expressing interest in a fellow poster. If you can't accept that, then it's your problem.
COCO I WANNA SEE YOU ON 2ND SOON, YOU MOTHERFUCKER
Grant, stop please.
ALNM lives in NYC, so I doubt she teaches at BC. But please don't continue, ok? Thanks.
Ok, a baserunner. We like baserunners.
Meh, never mind, it also says (s)he's from New York. [shrug]
Sorry I'm like 5 posts behind.
No prob.
That was Texas!
she seriously expected me to reveal that.
We all share stuff about each other, it's part of the community...I share where I go to school, where I'm from etc...I don't think it's a big deal. I totally understand if you do though. To me it just seemed that Amy was being nice and trying to get to know one of our newest members a little bit more. I think she was asking if you were like a math teacher or something, because amy herself is a teacher (IIRC)... No need for the hate.
And the comments about making your heads hurt come across as snide insults.
First of all I'd just like to clarify that that's an opinion statement. I, like everyone else probably, thought of it as a compliment to your knowledge, not a "snide insult". I haven't checked out your blog, and probably won't now.
If anything's an insult it's the way you reacted to Amy (and grant).
This game is stupid.
Remember when this game was FUN? Almost THREE hours ago?
good kevin "keith foulke" cash makes only 1 out.
THE FIRE THIS TIME?
Grant, you're treating ALNM like she's a troll you're trying to investigate, it appears. It was merely miscommunication and you all know what can happen on either side. Things get blown out of proportion and people get defensive. If you guys put it to bed and watch the game things will go better and you'll forget about this.
Thanks, Tim, I appreciate your support.
Right at him.
And why isn't ococ on second?
WHY IS COCO STILL ON 1st FUCK HIM!
I still think this game is fun, from a baseball fan's prospective.
perspective. haha.
nixon33 said...
WHY IS COCO STILL ON 1st FUCK HIM!
He hasn't stolen the base or been advanced by another batter, passed ball, or wild pitch....:)
Reach, FY. Reach. Gives Ortiz yet another AB with two men on.
It's fun from a baseball fan's perspective, but not from a Sox fan's perspective lol
Wow, been following in cognito for a couple of innings, trying to keep an eye on the score, talk to nurses, walk my spouse, and keep up with the thread.
What the HELL is going on in this game? I checked out the score at the bottom of 2 and thought I would really enjoy going back after this cakewalk and reviewing how that 1st inning transpired.
So much for that.
pfffft
Cmon Pedroier the Destroyer...
2$%#^$&^%@%&#&%^&#*&%^&
Shite. Snuffed out.
Thanks Tim.
Ish, you're nice to be so conciliatory, but you're being very generous.
Can you fucking believe WE ARE NOW LOSING???
WHY IS COCO STILL ON 1st FUCK HIM!
Painful irony now.
At least we get a Bonus Pedroier at bat.
Yep, definitely pissed off.
thats why
The way this game is going, I'll be singing "Ride, Captain, Ride" before this game is over.
I suppose Feldman's feeling a little better.
way to go, lets wait til theres two outs to steal. LIKE I SAID COCO IS WORTHLESS
hey mdc -- hold texas to 3 runs this inning, k?
I think I will fold some more laundry. This evening has been very stressful.
One thing to feel better about, though, is just how bad Texas' bullpen is.
I suppose Feldman's feeling a little better.
...
So much for that glove.
Coco's lost the last part of his game that is good tonight.
Amy, I hope it's only baseball that's stressing you. Don't worry about the other stuff. It's an unfortunate part of life on the internet.
OK, "you make my head hurt" doesn't sound like a compliment when you're on the receiving end. I'll accept that you didn't mean it that way. But you might want to think twice before using it in the future, because (I know from talking to others in the sciences) it's something we hear way too much and does not amuse.
But the reaction to my reaction was also a little over the top. "Fucking sarcastic"? Can you not accept that I did find your comments gratuitously hurtful? I'm accepting your explanations (on reflection), but a little good faith the other way would be helpful as well.
lets hope those rays lose.
I'm fucking starving. Haven't eaten all day. Going to Steph's house for the night and grabbing food on the way. brb.
7th inning - close game -- tim's gotta head out for food or drink!!!!
Going back to thinking lovely thoughts...
Sarcastic cheers for the 1st out.
MDC got away with a bit of a hanger there.
*sigh*
HANG ME, PLEASE
MDC strikes out the gamemaster
I didn't use that language. I asked you a question and was treated like I had committed treason or something. I did nothing that was not in good faith. I would never say something hurtful to someone for no reason. Why would I insult someone I don't even know, someone who is a fellow Red Sox fan and an academic? How about you assume the best of people instead of the worst?
Amy, for crying out loud, you said I made your head hurt.
Yes, Laura, I find the conflict stressful. Even on the internet. One reason I teach and do not practice law is that I hated all the conflict.
OK, I am folding laundry now for real. And trying to focus on us getting runs.
I know no one will agree with me, but I think this game is really funny.
Of course, I won't think it's funny if the Red Sox miss the postseason by one game.
Delcarmen really does drive me crazy. He's either lights-out unhittable or gawdawful. There doesn't ever seem to be any in-between.
If the use of the word "fucking" for emphasis constitutes "gratuitously hurtful," then it's best we don't communicate at all.
You insult someone around here (a mainstay of the thread, who is my friend), answer her simple question with a snotty answer, and that's what I'm going to do.
I make a self-deprecating remark about your blog and am told "then don't read it, I didn't write it for you", at that point I'd have to say there's no talking to you.
So I won't. You'll be able to enjoy the thread and whatever else without me.
4-3 MFYs.
Amy, for crying out loud, you said I made your head hurt.
Yes. Because she is admitting that math makes her head hurt. NOT YOUR WRITING!!!! Jeez.
(The post is math-related, I assume?)
Amy, I'm sorry to hear that. I know that's the case for a lot of people. Have a good night. Go pet a kitty, that always helps!
Guess I was being generous.
woah, what have i been missing on this thread!
IM GLAD IM BUSY BEING MAD ABOUT THE YANKEES!
Ish, no shame in that. I try never to fault someone for being too nice. :)
PLEASE WIN PLEASE WIN PLEASE WIN
Thanks, Laura. Yes, nothing like a pet for stress reduction. I will be here watching, but think I will avoid getting myself in any more trouble by being silent for a while.
nixon: why get mad about the yankees when you could get plenty mad about what's happening in the game in front of you? =\
I know no one will agree with me, but I think this game is really funny.
Of course, I won't think it's funny if the Red Sox miss the postseason by one game.
Right. It would be funny if we were 10 games up in the division or somethng.
As is, it just highlights all our deficits. Highlights in bright yellow, bold, 72 pt font.
shit, if we win this game, we'll all still be slamming shit around, saying "great, we fuckin' won. jesus effing christ. i'm off to bed grrrrrrrr"
Steve Buckley went out to the CF seats and interviewed the fans, most of them said the ball would have hit the top of the wall had the guy not reached out for it. Three fans were ejected on that play.
I wonder if that means the ball had no chance. This is Buckley, who is like CHB squared, we're talking about.
BEN I HOPE YOU KNOW THAT AROUND HERE WHEN THE RED SOX ARE LOSING ITS ASSUMED YOU ARE MAD!
HA
OR ASSUMED I AM MAD< RATHER.
I love how the guy reaches down with his elbow and gets hit. He didn't get out of the way, he dipped into it. And he's on first.
I hate Steve Buckley.
I only ever read him when Allan quotes him, but that's enough for me.
What do you think is a better game? Both assuming the Red Sox win, btw. A 17-16 final score (or higher)? Or a 2-1 final score in 16 innings?
shit, if we win this game, we'll all still be slamming shit around, saying "great, we fuckin' won. jesus effing christ. i'm off to bed grrrrrrrr"
Seriously. This game is not winnable.
Runs, please.
Not winnable in the figurative sense*
What do you think is a better game? Both assuming the Red Sox win, btw. A 17-16 final score (or higher)? Or a 2-1 final score in 16 innings?
2-1.
No contest for me. I love great pitching. I know this is a bias, and probably not true, but I always think serious baseball fans prefer low scoring games.
Hey, I'll still be filling shots of dirty water for everybody when this is all said and done. It's still either a W or an L. And it's still a 2 run defecit.
silver lining dept:
if the staff is going to allow 16 runs, it's good the bats get 14 so we have a chance to win.
We have the right people up anyway.
is buckley working for weei?
FY gets on in front of the Large Father. The tying run!
I love Pedroier :) That ococ CS is actually kind of a good thing not, weirdly.
LASER SHOW.
Here we go!!!!
RUNS PLEASE!!!!
Ok. Papi, do your thing.
is buckley working for weei?
Not the Red Sox radio network. I think he popped his head in and told them what he heard.
ish, you were right that there's a miscommunication going on.
Why is Wright attempting pickoffs? Papi's still in the batter's box.
So how many RBIs has Ortiz had tonight so far? Eight?
170 lbs of mouth and about 34 oz. of wood make a pretty good combination.
Gene Hacker, Cardinals, 1918.
Last pitcher to allow 12 runs and end up with a no-decision.
We need baserunners here.
170 lbs of mouth and about 34 oz. of wood make a pretty good combination.
:)
This game has been one big clusterfuck.
Gene Hacker, Cardinals, 1918
Gene Hacker or Gene Packard?
That was grande.
Nice!
Papi's got 6 RBI.
Gene Hacker or Gene Packard?
Castig sounded like he said Hacker. But it could have definitely been Packard.
BUNT! (kidding!)
Packard. Thank you BR
2 -1 for me also. Love the great pitch at the right moment, the great defense usually involved in those games, and the clutch hit that means so much more in those games. Well, at least it seems to. I guess in reality the hit that brings in the 16th run in a 16 - 15 game is just as important, but it just doesn't seem AS clutch.
Gene Packard is very important in Allan's book.
FUCK YEAH!!!!
Wow, that defense just might win us this game.
No one else answered Ish's "which is better" q?
HAHAHAHA! JUST A MATTER OF TIME FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING FUCKS TEXAS FUCK YOU!
This is the worst baseball game I've ever seen.
Of course right after I type that, I see SoSock also replied.
Gene Packard - the guy that arranged for the Cubs to throw the 1918 World Series to the Red Sox.
Maybe......
I did, I did!
Texas pitching is bad, I know. But I thought they were bad at pitching!
Oh, I say 2-1, definitely.
Doctor, we're hurting, help us!
This feels like a basketball game.
Castig and O'Brien share a laugh at the fact that nobody is warming in either bullpen.
2-1 definitely. A game like that, you feel like you've watched some quality baseball. This...no matter how it finishes...just feels sloppy all over.
Sosock, gotcha, saw it too late. :)
Don talking about some guy named Charlie Zinc. Didn't he start a game last week or something?
WHAT ARE YOU FUCKING LOOKING AT?!!?!?!111111!!!1ONE11!1JUANWONELEVENTY
My vote. A 2-1 game, most of the time. 17-16 can be fun, but only when it is back and forth. Not when we blow a ten run lead.
Creeping back to the quiet corner. Just wanted to register a vote.
So far my bias is holding. How about you, Ish?
Gene Packard - the guy that arranged for the Cubs to throw the 1918 World Series to the Red Sox.
Well, Gene Packard played for the Cardinals in 1918, and BR doesn't show a Gene Hacker.
COME ON BAY
I missed my "it's a start" moment, and now it's way more than jst a start :)
10 more anybody?
My vote. A 2-1 game, most of the time. 17-16 can be fun, but only when it is back and forth. Not when we blow a ten run lead.
Creeping back to the quiet corner. Just wanted to register a vote.
The tension of the low scoring game is incredible. Like the tension of a no-hitter, when it's your guy throwing it.
I'm sure we're nowhere close, but...what's the record for total runs scored in a game, anyway?
Doc's not having a great month.
I am missing Manny here.
So far my bias is holding. How about you, Ish?
I love those extra innings games, but there's a certain novelty to a crazy slugfest as well. Although tonight's game is beginning to go back and forth... Tonight's game though, where the Red Sox start out in front in a laugher, and then cough up the lead... I think that's in its own column.
But this game is fun from a neutral standpoint.
Looks like it was August 3, 1918, but I'm having trouble getting a box score to confirm.
Most runs scored is 49.
Total run scored record is a ton of runs. One team has scored as many as 36 on their own. A says he'll look it up after the game.
The tension of the low scoring game is incredible. Like the tension of a no-hitter, when it's your guy throwing it.
Especially in extra innings. You feel it back and forth. Here, you have a very large amount of faith that your team can make up the defecit because you haven't seen anyone on the mound for either team who's displayed their ability to hold the score.
Oops, sorry Phil! You already answered.
Ooooh that looked like that hurt. Davis fell on Bay's back and his face banged into the dirt.
OH SHIT THATS ALL WE NEED I HOE BAY IS OK
FUCK THIS SHIT
Feh.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
High scoring games can be fun if you have no stake in either team. As Ish said, from a neutral standpoint. When we go on baseball road trips, I enjoy a high scoring game.
I hate it how right now I have that same feeling I do in a 3-2 game... Why are the Red Sox having so many problems scoring RUNS!!!
And then I remember it's 16-15. Still have six outs left. I'm still game for that Ortiz walk-off.
IBB to Manny in first inning.
DAMMIT!!
really wanted that tying run (in my best mutter)
Tala just came in the house and her face is all black! She's snowy white. Hmm...
I gave the box score for the 49 run game earlier up thread.
Lowell's left the game.
Heh, nice! Glad Lowell didn't need to make that play!
Great catch!
Nomah batting.
Most runs for AL game: 36
Boston 22, Philadelphia 14
June 29, 1950
MLB: 49
Chicago 26, Philadelphia 23
August 25, 1922
FUCK YEAH!!!
I mean really. I have a total nonsexual man-crush on Dustin Pedroia.
After reading that Pedroia article this morning, I'm now wondering what he was mouthing there...
Castig: "We're in the last.... I don't know. Top of the 8th."
Jeemer Time is the right time!
LETS FUCKING GET SOME RUNS!!!!!
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