August 24, 2008

G130: Red Sox 6, Blue Jays 5 (11)

Red Sox   - 004 000 100 01 - 6  9  0
Blue Jays - 200 102 000 00 - 5 9 0
Coco Crisp's home run tied the game in the eighth, Jed Lowrie's second career dong gave the Red Sox a lead in the 11th and Manny Declarmen got the save -- though he needed 26 nerve-wracking pitches -- striking out Jose Bautista with a man on first.

Vernon Wells -- a one-man wrecking crew this weekend (6-for-9, with 3 home runs) -- hit a two-run shot in the first; he also added an RBI double in the sixth.

Burnett had made quick work of the Sox in the first two innings, throwing only 19 pitches, but Boston forced him to throw 32 pitches in the third. With one out, Burnett walked Alex Cora and Crisp, the two guys at the bottom of the order. He got Jacoby Ellsbury on a pop-up for the second out, but Dustin Pedroia blasted AJ's first pitch -- a high and inside 96-mph fastball -- to deep left for a three-run home run.

David Ortiz doubled and Kevin Youkilis singled him in and Boston led 4-2.

***

Daisuke Matsuzaka (2.77, 163 ERA+) / A.J. Burnett (4.51, 94 ERA+)

Nick Cafardo, Globe:
Your starting shortstop, third baseman, right fielder, and No. 1 pitcher are out with injuries. One of your young starters was so bad he had to be demoted to Double A. You lost to a division rival, 11-0, yesterday as your other top hurler, Jon Lester, was pummeled and lasted 2.1 innings. Your wild-card lead is teetering.

How are you feeling right about now?
David Ortiz:
We'll be fine, bro. We go through this shit every year. At the end of the day, we'll take another ring with us.
***

Dice vs Toronto on April 30: 7-2-0-2-4

Burnett vs Boston on May 1: 7.2-3-0-5-5

Also: Yankees/Orioles at 1:30, Rays/White Sox at 2, Twins/Angels at 3:30.

We are 5.5 GB in the East, .5 GA of Chicago for the WC.

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Jere said...

nice job by bat

L-girl said...

I know you all hate the woman, but she didn't choose the spelling of her name.

L-girl said...

...must buy volvo... must buy volvo...

redsock said...

Wells is seriously over-rated. His BR comps:

Aubrey Huff (960)
Jim Ray Hart (938)
Richard Hidalgo (938)
Trot Nixon (937)
Raul Ibanez (926)
Glenallen Hill (926)
Kevin Millar (925)
Troy O'Leary (924)
Preston Wilson (924)
Leon Durham (921)

redsock said...

"no doubles defense"

SHUT UP JOE!

A Conformer said...

I know you all hate the woman, but she didn't choose the spelling of her name.

No hate. She's just earned some 'easy joke target' points, and I flow with that.

redsock said...

tek
cora
crisp

a run would be dandy.

A Conformer said...

a run would be dandy.

Especially since the FKR just took the lead.

Jere said...

I noticed this earlier, but now that I see some anti-Cafardo stuff in this thread I'll add to it: He said today that this will be the Sox' last trip ever to Yankee Stadium, barring "a playoff game." Doesn't that sound like what you'd say if you thought there was a chance the two could play in the first round? And there's a possibility only one game is played (a 3-0 sweep in a 5 game series)? Because there isn't--if we play the Yanks in the postseason, there will be at least 2 Sox-Yanks games at the Stadium, because it could only be the ALCS.

And, hey, maybe he'd use the "come on, it's a blog, I wrote it quick" excuse, but as soon as a media type says that, they'd have to admit their blog is no better than the average fan's blog. (The fan, who would actually get their facts straight.) It's great to see the un-cleaned up and edited versions of these reporters' work. You see even moreso how crappy they are.

Jere said...

"No hate." (Waldman)

Hate.

I like women who switch from Yanks to Sox, not the other way around:)

phil said...

Cora can't even sac bunt.

nixon33 said...

com on you little bitch, coco, make it 6.

A Conformer said...

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCKING BUNTING

L-girl said...

No hate. She's just earned some 'easy joke target' points, and I flow with that.

Oh, lots of hate. But I guess not from you.

phil said...

Waldman has brought shame upon Newton, MA.

I was going to say she would've gotten a free name change when she got married, meaning she's ratified whatever spelling she was previously given, but I'm not actually sure she's married.

nixon33 said...

come on pirate!

L-girl said...

It's great to see the un-cleaned up and edited versions of these reporters' work. You see even moreso how crappy they are.

???

nixon33 said...

THE O'S TIED IT UP!!!!!!!

redsock said...

anyone else hear about the time a tipsy boggs (which probably took 75-80 beers) went to waldman's hotel room.... just a rumour, but ...

L-girl said...

I was going to say she would've gotten a free name change when she got married, meaning she's ratified whatever spelling she was previously given, but I'm not actually sure she's married.

Married or not, she was born with the name she uses, including the spelling of her 1st name.

Jere said...

"???"

Meaning when reporters "blog."

nixon33 said...

RS, i heard about that one. ;)

redsock said...

OMG OF ALL THE WAYS TO SPELL SUSAN ................

Jere said...

That Yank game is ricockulous. Neither starter made it out of the fourth, yet both threw nearly 100 pitches.

phil said...

Just saying that you don't have to keep whatever baggage your crazy parents saddle you with. That's why therapists exist.

redsock said...

More Cafardo blogging:

Let's watch A.J. Burnett, who is the type of pitcher who can suffer a momentary lapse as he did in the third inning when he gave up four runs and then settle down and shut you down. Burnett's throwing 96 mph.

****

Nice first "sentence".

L-girl said...

But neither should you change your name because a bunch of Red Sox fans don't care for it.

kkh said...

"... the Sox' last trip ever to Yankee Stadium, barring "a playoff game."

I don't particularly like Carfardo's writing, but this isn't the example I'd use to illustrate why. There's nothing about "a" in this context that implies exactly one, only at least one.

Isn't English a fun language? ;-)

phil said...

OMG I JUST GOT AN E-MAIL FROM JOE BIDEN.

redsock said...

When I first read it, I thought he meant a 1978-type playoff game.

Which ain't hap-nin.

redsock said...

OMG I JUST GOT AN E-MAIL FROM JOE BIDEN.

I got one from his dad.

Name's Eoj.

A Conformer said...

Oki back for the bottom of the inning?

phil said...

The thing is, even MFY fans hate Waldman. I'm not sure who her target demographic is supposed to be.

L-girl said...

Eoj. :)

redsock said...

BOT

phil said...

(I can guess, but I don't think there's much success reaching it.)

L-girl said...

The thing is, even MFY fans hate Waldman.

Yankees fans' opinions suck until they agree with Red Sox fan, then they are proof of correctness.

redsock said...

A lot of NYY fans hate Kay too.

L-girl said...

Why does she need a target demographic? Who was Troop's target demographic?

phil said...

Pitch efficient.

A Conformer said...

Good. Proactive Tito is a good sign.

redsock said...

Q: Is having Bot pitch in a tie game on the road an example of "moneyball"?

L-girl said...

"... the Sox' last trip ever to Yankee Stadium, barring "a playoff game."

1978 - I read it that way too. Otherwise, I think he would have said "barring post-season play".

A Conformer said...

BTW, one of the side effects of ON FIRE's injury is that the Sox have no speed on the bench. I bet if Ococ or LBJ were available, they would've run for V-Tek.

phil said...

Seems like poor business strategy to have two awful baseball announcers, but what do I know.

redsock said...

Carfardo pre-game:

Some interesting facts ...:

Daisuke Matsuzaka (15-2) has started 22 games this season ...
He has hit 5 batters. ...
He has surrendered 8 homers this season. ...
This is his first appearance this season in Toronto.

****

WOW!

redsock said...

Who was Troop's target demographic?

There's a really funny answer to this, but I'm drawing a blank.

phil said...

Runs, please.

Jere said...

kkh, I disagree. Don't you think he should have said, "barring playoff games?" In fact, I'd guess he meant to say "barring a playoff series."

Because if you're saying "at least one," that's wrong, because it means exactly one is a possibility, which it isn't.

redsock said...

9 pitches

Jere said...

"He has hit 5 batters. ..."

I laughed at that one, too. He needed some "stat guy" to tell him this?

A Conformer said...

9-pitch inning. That's effective.

And with Fuck Yeah, Flo, and YOOOOOOOK in the 10th, I'm optimistic.

redsock said...

FKR: 210 001 1
CWS: 000 400

NYY: 040 30
BAL: 200 32

redsock said...

and

MIN: 10
LAA: 00

L-girl said...

Seems like poor business strategy to have two awful baseball announcers, but what do I know.

But you do realize "two awful baseball announcers" is a subjective judgement, right? An opinion, not a fact?

redsock said...

But you do realize "two awful baseball announcers" is a subjective judgement, right? An opinion, not a fact?

Not this time.

L-girl said...

Open goal.

kkh said...

Ah, but exactly one is a possibility, a la 1978. But I'll concede the point, since there is no way in hell that Cafardo wrote the sentence with that kind of precision in mind.

phil said...

Yes, but I've lived in NYC and its environs for six years and spoken to many MFY fans and never found a single one who likes either Waldman or Kay. I'm pretty sure one of the NYC tabloids did a poll on the subject a couple years ago which backs me up.

L-girl said...

Ah, but exactly one is a possibility, a la 1978.

How so? Tampa plane goes down and half of the Red Sox are on it?

nixon33 said...

I LOVE MICHAEL KAY

im gonna get a picture with him when i go to the toilet this week ;)

phil said...

We're vulnerable to 9-pitch innings too, unfortunately.

redsock said...

Sometime I never got around to posting re Sterling:

Phil Mushnick, July 25, 2008, New York Post: "That we should never expect better from John Sterling doesn't make it any easier. To be stuck in a car, forced to listen to the 20-year Voice of the New York Yankees describe a game, is to be the victim of a crime against baseball, broadcasting and the public trust.

"Monday, in the second inning, the Twins' Brendan Harris scored from second on a base hit to right. There was a play at the plate.

"Having had several opportunities to view the play, Sterling, heard locally on WCBS (880 AM), began the bottom of the second with a windy sermon about how baseball has certainly changed -- in view of the incompetence just demonstrated by home-plate ump Mike Everitt. After all, Sterling said, once upon a time had Bobby Abreu charged that hit, fielded it cleanly, thrown a fastball strike to catcher Jose Molina, who then merely had to await the arrival of Harris before he tagged him out, Harris would have been called out.

"According to Sterling, that was exactly what had happened. That was the mind's-eye scene he crafted for his radio audience. ... To little surprise, TV replays [exposed] Sterling's conclusion as a wishful fabrication that the Yankees were done obvious dirt by a fundamentally flawed ump. It was, in fact, a very close play. The YES TV guys, relying on the same replays as Sterling, concluded it was too close for them to call."

***********

I will say that Mushnick hates Sterling anyway.

A Conformer said...

Fuck, that was even more effective.

L-girl said...

I knew tons of Yankees fans who love Michael Kay.

Many do not, but many, many do.

nixon33 said...

dear bullpen,
please dont make me go buy a brick of tar H.

L-girl said...

Now Red Sox fans are using NYC tabloid polls to back up their opinions.

nixon33 said...

papelbon = john lithgow.

Jere said...

So, wait, could there be a one-game playoff between the Sox and Yanks? Don't they just use the head-to-head as a tie-breaker? I know there's a way you can have a playoff--but I can't think of how this works--do three teams have to be tied?

redsock said...

I walked past Michael Kay at Fenway once, after the park had pretty much emptied out. I said nothing.


From a SoSH thread you can't see:
"Our office's FedEx guy comes in one day and says his former sister-in-law (she divorced his brother) met Michael Kay, David Cone, and John Flaherty while they went to Boston in the Ritz. She was a part of 3 or 4 women staying there so they all talk to Kay and Co. Cone eventually goes upstairs with one of the women even after telling them he just had another child with his wife. The SIL continues to talk with Kay and they eventually go upstairs for some sweet lovin'. He proceeds to tell me that Kay takes the SIL out on a date in Manhattan this past week and that they are an item now."

I choose to believe this and I'll keep my eyes peeled for any dirt!

L-girl said...

If the wild card had existed in 1978, that game wouldn't have been played.

redsock said...

Wild Card = Evil

L-girl said...

Wild Card = Evil

Except when it leads to 2004.

Jere said...

Really nice job, Bay!

L-girl said...

Canadian leather!

redsock said...

BAY robs GOD!!!!!!!!!!

redsock said...

From that Kay Thread:
"I once heard Michael Kay on the radio talking for quite a while about how he has never had a condiment (ketchup, mustard, mayo, etc.) in his entire life."

redsock said...

I accept the wild card, but I would abolish it if I could.

L-girl said...

From that Kay Thread:
"I once heard Michael Kay on the radio talking for quite a while about how he has never had a condiment (ketchup, mustard, mayo, etc.) in his entire life."


Scintillating talk over there.

Jere said...

oh, wait, I think the '05 tie-breaker was used only because they knew the loser would be the WC anyway. maybe.

redsock said...

only 16 pitches for bot. i wonder if he'll start the 11th against wells?

Jere said...

I remember Kay on his radio show once had some bet going where if he lost, he's have to eat a ketchup packet straight.

A Conformer said...

WOW. Great play by Bay, and he made it look easy.
Now he can be the double hero at the plate.
And Paps could go out for a third inning, supposedly.

phil said...

A June 24, 2007 Newsday report mentions a SportsWatch survey of readers' opinions of NY sports announcers:

SPORTS TALK PERSONALITY

FAVORITE
Joe Benigno 23.7
Steve Somers 22.9
Mike Francesa 13.5

LEAST FAVORITE
Evan Roberts 23.4
Michael Kay 19.7
Mike Francesa 19.6


PLAY-BY-PLAY PERSON

FAVORITE
Gary Cohen 42.7
Howie Rose 20.3
Mike Breen 7.1

LEAST FAVORITE
Suzyn Waldman 33.2
John Sterling 29.5
Michael Kay 18.3


GAME ANALYST

FAVORITE
Ron Darling 38.2
Keith Hernandez 28.6
Bobby Murcer 8.6

LEAST FAVORITE
Ken Singleton 18.9
Walt Frazier 14.3
Keith Hernandez 11.7

FORMER NY ANNOUNCER

FAVORITE

Marv Albert 23.1
Ralph Kiner 22.6
Vin Scully 15.2

LEAST FAVORITE
Fran Healy 50.4
Marv Albert 9.2
Phil Rizzuto 8.1

redsock said...

Scintillating talk over there.

I'm hoping it improves.

...

Kay did compare people complaining about announcers saying "no-hitter" during possible no-hitters to the Holocaust and slavery.
FJM has the audio.

Jere said...

Lau!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! rie.....

L-girl said...

Marv Albert 23.1
Ralph Kiner 22.6
Vin Scully 15.2


This certainly calls the poll's usefulness into question.

But I did know tons of Yankee fans who loved Michael Kay. Past tense, because I don't know those ppl anymore.

phil said...

JED!

redsock said...

LOWRIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeah

L-girl said...

MIND TRICK!!!!!!!!!!

redsock said...

LASER JR.

redsock said...

SEE YA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A Conformer said...

JEDI!!!

phil said...

Payton's got runners at first and third with two outs.

L-girl said...

I can't stand Michael Kay. My point is only that it's down to personal taste.

I'm sure lots of people love Hawk Harrelson.

My point is also that the hate for Suzyn Waldman and John Sterling far exceeds their hate-worthiness. When you have to start criticizing how someone spells her name, you're pretty much showing your hand.

redsock said...

MDC coming in!


FKR: 210 001 10
CWS: 000 400 00

NYY: 040 300
BAL: 200 32

MIN: 101
LAA: 000

kkh said...

If the wild card had existed in 1978, that game wouldn't have been played.

True. Today's equivalent would be two teams tied for the wildcard spot, no?

phil said...

Payton squanders.

Jenks IBBs the bases loaded.

A Conformer said...

MDC throwing in the bullpen. I REALLY hope Paps go out for one more.

L-girl said...

MDC is coming in.

nixon33 said...

MY COMPUTER WHENT OUT!

1)one-eyed jac with the catch!

2) BAY!

3) LOWRIE!

redsock said...

I admit I am a bit worried with MDC in there, but at least it's not tied.

Just get Vernon "I only hit against Boston" Wells.

L-girl said...

One Eyed Jac! Nice.

L-girl said...

This is scary.

L-girl said...

Radio guys questioning this move, too - day off tomw, low pitch count for Bot.

phil said...

Jac of Hearts, eh.

nixon33 said...

MDC is gonna give me a heart attack!

phil said...

It's only a low pitch count if you don't count warmup pitches, though.

A Conformer said...

When you have to start criticizing how someone spells her name, you're pretty much showing your hand.

As the one who started the whole thing, I wanna say I was definitely not critizing. Just making fun. As for criticism- I never heard her calling a game, just heard the goodness gracious and crying about Torre bits, so I can't criticize anything.

phil said...

20 mph difference between fastball and curveball, according to GDGD.

L-girl said...

Jac of Hearts, eh.

It's good to see you still alive, you looking like a saint...

Jere said...

dungeon.

phil said...

Canoe dong. 8-7 MFY.

redsock said...

dp pls

L-girl said...

As the one who started the whole thing,

No prob, Ofer. I'm pretty sure I started it by being sick of all the Suzyn-hating.

Which you are not part of. :)

Walk. :(

L-girl said...

I need the Sox to win this game before I go on my break. So get to it, MDC.

phil said...

Griffey double with 1 out in the bottom of the 9th.

redsock said...

didn't mccarver once say that leadoff walks always come around to score? always!

L-girl said...

didn't mccarver once say

Once per game, I believe.

redsock said...

i'm getting one of those bad feelings that i always tell other commenters to stfu about.

so, stfu, me!

Jere said...

5.4 from the east german judge

ish said...

I have spent the entire afternoon bumbling around from store to store, staying in the car most of the time to listen to the game. The only reason I went out is we have the one car, and I needed some lunch. I end up getting stuck out for four hours.

But, three things made me smile:

1.) Coco's dong.

2.) In between innings, I was listening to the Yankees game. Sterling: "Swing and a foul back... WATCH OUT!" And you can hear the ball hit several places inside the booth, like they were under fire.

3.) Lowrie's dong.

Jere said...

Raze 1 out from winning in BlowTown

ish said...

I have a bad feeling as long as it's MDC on the mound with the winning run at the plate.

One pitch can end it either way, though.

L-girl said...

stfu, bad feeling!

Jere said...

so Suzyn didn't exactly catch it, then...picked it up after it stopped rolling? I'm just asking to clarify this.

ish said...

so Suzyn didn't exactly catch it, then...picked it up after it stopped rolling? I'm just asking to clarify this.

She went under her desk, picked it up when it stopped rolling.

nixon33 said...

MDC YOU MOTHER FUCKER THROW STRIKES

ish said...

TWO.

Jere said...

that looked dongish off bat. whew.

redsock said...

1 fair ball hit in 19 pitches - driving me nuts

L-girl said...

picked it up when it stopped rolling

knuckleball, i guess

ish said...

I could picture John Sterling getting under his desk quickly. They probably held each other under the ball stopped rolling.

L-girl said...

whew

redsock said...

2 in 20.

ONE OUT, LIL' MANNY!

Jere said...

Rays and Sox in exact same situation right now. Essentially.

ish said...

Suzyn sounded more composed afterward than Sterling did. She said, "Eh, it wasn't scary. You just calmly get under your desk, then pick it up when it stops rolling."

L-girl said...

come on now...

L-girl said...

GOD THIS IS ANNOYING THROW STRIKES AND END THIS GAME PLEASE

ish said...

Castig, at the end of the Top of the 11th: "Manny Delcarmen coming on."

Me: "This one is NOT over."

phil said...

Konerko comes through.

ish said...

But one more strike and the dirty water will be flowing.

ish said...

FIRST ROUND OF DIRTY WATER ON ME!!!

IT FLOWS!

Pepe Lepew said...

Way to go, Jed!
Lugo who?

Jere said...

WIN!!!!!!

phil said...

5-5 CWS.

ish said...

Boy, that was interesting, but it's a W!

phil said...

And water.

ish said...

White Sox tie it up!

L-girl said...

pitch hasn't even been thrown yet on the radio :)

Jere said...

and the White Sox tie it at the same time. Amazing!

nixon33 said...

whew is right.

redsock said...

Yes.

Thanks, Manny!

L-girl said...

THANK YOU MDC

dirty dirty dirty dirty water

Jere said...

each game hinged on one pitch, and ours went right, theirs went wrong.

Bryon Harris said...

YESS!!

L-girl said...

see you all on tuesday! enjoy the day off.

ish said...

It was 7-5 MFY in the 5th, now it's 8-7...

redsock said...

SUCVK ON THAT YOUY FUCKING JAYS MORONS, NOT THAT YOU EVEN FUCKING KNOW HOW YOUR TEAM IS DOING

A Conformer said...

White Sox tie it up in the bottom of the 9th!

ish said...

NESN, you can stop calling the Yankees the Evil Empire now. I think, for this year, that nickname is no longer relevant.

Jere said...

holy crap--Whote Sox dude should've been out at plate to end game, but no.

phil said...

Getz gets his first steal. OCab with a chance at redemption.

redsock said...

with the blackout, i forgot i can watch the rays!

redsock said...

o-cab can win it.

phil said...

Fail. Extras in Chicago.

redsock said...

fuck you, ocab, you gotta handshake for that k?

Jere said...

O-Cab also with a key mistake leading to yesterday's Rays win.

ish said...

Remember justin.tv? One of the life-casters has their camera pointing at the TV to show the Brewers and Pirates game. Too funny.

phil said...

Baltimore squanders too.

phil said...

Remember justin.tv?

No, should I?

A Conformer said...

I just saw the tying run for the White Sox- shoulda been an easy out at home, but the catcher (who the fuck is Riggans, anyway?) couldn't handle it. The FKR are getting KILLED on plays at home this series.

ish said...

nice. I got the Rays/Sox game.

phil said...

1-2-3 for Jenks. Heading to the bottom of the 10th.

ish said...

Remember justin.tv?

No, should I?


I think Tim or Nix mentioned it. Or Jere.

ish said...

Heh. This feed is delayed heavily. The 2-2... 5-3. There's the end of the inning.

phil said...

TBS has the FKR/CWS game.

phil said...

Pierzynski singles up the middle on a line drive.

nixon33 said...

THIS WAS A VERY BIG WIN FOR US

ish said...

THANK YOU PHIL.

phil said...

Pierzynski tags and moves to second on a deep fly. Peculiar.

nixon33 said...

i ahve no idea what justin.tv is

A Conformer said...

Remember justin.tv?

No, should I?

I think Tim or Nix mentioned it. Or Jere.


Joe Grav recommended it to me, but that was a while back. I think it was in the weekend series against LAAA a month ago.

ish said...

i ahve no idea what justin.tv is

Must've been Tim. It was a life-casting website and a couple of channels had baseball.

redsock said...

Twins now up 3-0 in the 6th.

ish said...

Yeah, it must've been Joe then.

redsock said...

So we got 5 weeks of scoreboard watching for 4 teams -- FKR, CWS and MIN for the playoffs and MFY just to see them lose.

phil said...

This is weird.

redsock said...

wtf?

A Conformer said...

Upton was way too calm and slow on that tag up. Hope it costs them the game.

ish said...

Somehow Pierzynski is safe at second instead of being out in a pickle....?

nixon33 said...

pqweertyuioo-zinsky is such a fucking dirty player!
awesome. what a bullshit call!

redsock said...

he is out. come on.

phil said...

Pierzynski safe at second in a rundown for no apparent reason. (He hits Aybar with his arm and flops, getting the interference call.)

ish said...

Interference? Weird play. I didn't see any.

A Conformer said...

TURNING POINT! The FKR are doomed.

ish said...

If Pierzynski's called out, Ozzie's going to shit.

ish said...

HAHAHA they're moving him to third base!!!

phil said...

After conferring, they move him to third base? WTF?

redsock said...

seems like a real bad call - but it puts the winning run at third.

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