August 12, 2008

G120: Red Sox 19, Rangers 17

Rangers -   0 20 085 101 - 17  20  2
Red Sox - (10)02 010 14x - 19 17 2
Wow.

Recapping this game -- which tied the American League record for most combined runs -- is out of the question. Instead, here are a few tidbits:

David Ortiz hit two three-run home runs in the first inning, becoming the first Sock to collect six RBI in one inning since Carlos Quintana on July 30, 1991 (also against Texas!). Flo likely was robbed of a third tater in the fifth when an idiot fan reached over the wall in dead center and caught the ball.

Kevin Youkilis made the first and third outs in the first inning, both on strikeouts. He also committed two errors, one at first base and one at third. But, after hitting a two-run dong in the fifth, he blasted a three-run bomb to left in the eighth, giving Boston its margin of victory.

Dustin Pedroia went 5-for-6 and scored five runs.

The other AL game with 36 runs? The Red Sox won that one, too. June 29, 1950: Boston 22, Philadelphia 14. Three weeks earlier, the Red Sox had pounded the St. Louis Browns 20-4 and 29-4 on back-to-back days. That 1950 team could mash: it scored 1,027 runs in 154 games (6.67 per game).

The major league record is 49 runs (Chicago 26, Philadelphia 23, August 25, 1922). The Phillies recovered and shutout the Cubs 3-0 in 11 innings the next day!

***

Scott Feldman (4.82, 88 ERA+) / Charlie Zink (MLB debut)

Zink, who turns 29 in two weeks:

"This is everything I have ever dreamed of. It has come true now and I'm going to the major leagues. It's ridiculous. I'm at a loss for words. I really don't know what to say about it. I'll be smiling forever now. This is just awesome. Awesome."

Zink has had an exceptional year in Pawtucket: 13-4, 2.89 in 25 starts, with a .228 opponents batting average. Two weeks ago, he said:
It just gradually kept getting better and better. Now it's finally to the point where I'm not ever worried about throwing a ball. Full counts, I'll throw a knuckleball still. I don't worry about walking people anymore.

A lot of it is me just having to believe in it. I always wanted to go back to throwing hard. Now I know I can't do that anymore, so I have to be able to figure it out to throw consistent knuckleballs up there that will move and hopefully not get hit hard.
Zink was signed as an undrafted free agent in April 2002 on the recommendation of Luis Tiant, his coach at Georgia's Savannah College of Art and Design. In addition to the knuckler, he throws a fastball (low 80s, faster than Wakefield's), curve and changeup (thrown at roughly the same speed as the knuckler, 66-71).

Manny Delcarmen:
Once he became a full-time knuckleballer, I couldn't even play catch with him anymore. He just kept hitting me so much. I had bruises everywhere.
Justin Masterson:
He consistently comes out and pitches like you would expect a veteran to. ... He's been working so hard that many of us thought he should have been here already. He's fun to watch ... so laid back ... slicing and dicing.
Zink will be starting on only three days rest, having thrown seven innings and 104 pitches on Friday. He has pitched on short rest three times this season: 15.1 IP, 1 run, 8 BB, 13 K.

Kevin Cash, on Zink:
I caught him probably three starts last year, and he threw the ball very well. This year, obviously, what he's doing in the International League, he's probably made some drastic improvements. I've caught bits and pieces from guys coming up, and I've asked about how he's throwing.

He pitches a lot like Wake as far as, he's able to throw his knuckleball for strikes and when he gets behind 2-0 or 3-1, he's still committed to throwing the knuckleball. I think that's big. If you're not committed to doing that, you're going to get in trouble throwing 80-mph fastballs when you're behind in the count.
The New York Times wrote about him this past in June:
He uses a protective gel on the nail of his index finger, because that one rubs against the ball. He grows the nail on his middle finger long so he can dig it into the ball. He calls it a "one nail and one knuckle" grip, which is what he thought he had seen Wakefield do on television all those years earlier. Wakefield actually uses two fingertips. ... "I haven't seen anybody else with this grip."
The Globe's Sunday magazine featured Zink in May 2008. (His Japanese-American grandparents, while living in California, were imprisoned in a US internment camp during World War II.) ... He was also featured in The New Yorker back in May 2004.

Finally, here are two older interviews -- from 2004 and 2005.

What number will Zink get? He wears #16 with Pawtucket, but Luis Alicea has that number in Boston. It would be cool if he got 30 -- the atomic number for zinc -- but Jonathan Van Every received that number earlier this year.

***

Yankees/Twins at 8 PM and Rays/Athletics at 10 PM.

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redsock said...

170 Pounds Of Mouth:

"Hey, 2004 was like 20 years ago! And all you did was walk! Mariano let four fly! It was not, like, some 12-pitch at-bat! [imitates Millar's stance] Ball 1, Ball 2, Ball 3, Ball 4. That's all you did."

Later he sends a text to Millar: "Did you bring your glasses for the laser show tonight?"

nixon33 said...

i read it. awesome.

nixon33 said...

Francesa just said "Today is the day. For al you fans that have longed for it. 15 years. The yankees wont make the postseason".

something must be wrong with me cause i muttered to myself, "allan already knew that, asshole".

watching the yanks last night was great. they are fucking TERRIBLE right now, and A-Rod is clutch, for the other team.

tim said...

Awesome read.

Last exam tonight so won't get to see Zink's debut. Back to studying now!

Jere said...

I am psyched for Zink! Went on redsox.com at like noon, got a ticket for tonight. May or may not use my tix for tomorrow, and I have a Monster SRO Friday night, so I won't see you guys much.

I also wondered what Zink's number would be. Hansen's gone, so he could take 56. But I'd love it if he wore 66.

A little night musing said...

Yum, knuckleballs.

tim said...

The hat appears to be photoshopped.

tim said...

My suspicions are confirmed

Tony said...

Also loved the FY article. It's nice to see that the Pedey/Cano debate, while still in the early stages, is tilting in favor of our guy.

Anybody read the New Yorker article from a few years back about the art of the knuckleball? It's a very informative and interesting read, and also prominently mentions Zink. I still have no idea how to post links here, but if you go to The New Yorker website and do a search for "Charlie Zink", the article pops right up.

redsock said...

May 2004 -- The New Yorker.

Thanks for reminding me. I planned on linking to it, but while I was getting the post together, it flew right out of my head!

tim said...

Tony

A little night musing said...

Tim - that's just wonderful, that link. Good idea.

(I was wondering what to expect when I clicked on it!)

JCal76 said...

The Byrd is the word.

tim said...

heh, yeah, in retrospect i probably should've put a better description in there. meh.

im being a procrastinating pedey right now. man. do not want to study anymore...

A little night musing said...

Nice article.

But - Tim Wakefield, paunchy? Please!

Zenslinger said...

Paul Byrd on the way from Cleveland for a PTBNL and/or cash (according to Extra Bases).

Can't hurt with the rotation thinning out. Wake's hurt; HH is...well, not pitching well at the moment; Colon's not ready; Zink is...well, we'll see what Zink is tonight.

Bebop on Replacement Level Yankees Weblog: "Red Sox got Paul Byrd and a shipment of HGH for a player to be named later a/o cash."

Tony said...

Thank you, Tim! Much obliged.

Here's a test:

Edwar Ramirez

nixon33 said...

SOX TRADE FOR PAUL BYRD.
me and my friends used to call him "yeah see?" in honor of his old school windup and once and a while the DOUBLE wind up.
edward g. robinson, eat yr heart out.

tim said...

Sox just traded for Byrd from the Spiders.

tim said...

Byrd starting on Friday instead of Buchholz...thank god.

tim said...

Follow up to the propane explosion

Bartman said...

Savannah College of Art and Design has a baseball program. Who knew?

nixon33 said...

Manny Peeing Manny

ish said...

I'm so glad to see that Theo is up on current events with his team. Looks like a good pickup, with what would seem like a very nice bargain. I wonder if anyone else can be had this month.

ish said...

I love what Jeff Kent said.

"When he came out, his jersey was half undone. So if he was going to the bathroom, he takes his jersey off to do it."

redsock said...

J.D Drew, CF
Dustin Pedroia, 2B
David Ortiz, DH
Kevin Youkilis, 1B
Mike Lowell, 3B
Jason Bay, LF
Jed Lowrie, SS
Jacoby Ellsbury, RF
Kevin Cash, C

Ian Kinsler, 2B
Michael Young, SS
Josh Hamilton, LF
Milton Bradley, DH
Marlon Byrd, LF
Frank Catalanotto, RF
Gerald Laird, C
Chris Davis, 1B
Ramon Vazquez, 3B

redsock said...

Hmmmm, Werd in center and Lyndon in right ....

9casey said...

redsock said...
Hmmmm, Werd in center and Lyndon in right ....


Is Drew hurt?

ish said...

Anyone notice that Bay hasn't been hitting very well since he started batting sixth and not fifth? Of course, it can easily be because he had that initial burst when he first joined the team and he's cooled off, regardless of placement in the lineup.

nixon33 said...

ok. ive come to terms that bay is in the 6 hole. i dont like it but i accept it. NOW my question is, why? is tito trying to spread out good hittiers thru the lineup so we dont have a cluster of suck?

WHY?

ish said...

Certainly is a strange looking lineup tonight, I will say that.

9casey said...

No Murphy tonight?

9casey said...

Is Bay better than Lowell?

redsock said...

Overall, Bay is a better hitter than Lowell at this point.

He has cooled off -- totally expected, btw -- 2 for his last 16.

L-girl said...

Yay! The first game I'll get to see beginning to end in almost a week. I'm psyched to see Zink's debut.

Any thoughts on the all-metal team? Reed Nichols. Any Steeles? Ferris? (Anyone?)

The all-element team seems a bit unlikely.

L-girl said...

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redsock said...

FKR --
BOS 4 GB
NYY 9 GB
TOR 12 GB
BAL 15 GB

NYY closer to 4th place than 2nd -- and closer to the basement than first.

Hell, they are almost as close to last place as 2nd!

L-girl said...

Damn, the landlord's here, what bad timing. Now maybe we'll find out why Allan's boxes were all wet and moldy.

ish said...

I love 7:00.

L-girl said...

I know how you feel!

L-girl said...

Off to a good start!

ish said...

Heh. #51.

Zink is the oldest American League player to make his major league debut since Orlando Hernandez.

nixon33 said...

yikes i hope his delivery from the stretch isnt that slow, they'll be running on him all night.

ish said...

NESN shows Ellsbury in CF and Drew in RF.

L-girl said...

Cue standard comment about not knowing how old El Duque is...

ish said...

Zink's got them butterflies going. His pitches are interesting, I'll give him that.

ish said...

1-2-3 inning!!!

L-girl said...

A Mel OTT inning for Zink!

L-girl said...

How could he not have butterflies??

ish said...

How could he not have butterflies??

I was talking about the knuckleballs!

L-girl said...

I was talking about the knuckleballs!

I realized that afterwards - but stomach butterflies work too!

Amy's not here, so I'll fill in. Scott Feldman, another Jewish ML player? It would seem so.

ish said...

B.B. Drew!

Tony said...

Thanks for the help, l-girl! Nice to see people looking out for me on this blog. :)

Tony said...

Oh shit, the game already started...gotten too used to that 8 EST/5 PST start time. Good to hear Zink had a nice start.

I'll have to leave around 6 to pick up some relatives at the airport, which is shitty timing, since I'll probably miss the end. >:o

ish said...

FAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zenslinger said...

C'mon wit th' Large Father.

nixon33 said...

MY WRIST FEELS BETTER: PAPI

( I CANT BELIEVE THAT WAS FAIR!)

ish said...

He is large and he is fatherly!

Zenslinger said...

HA! I knew it. HR HR HR

Tony said...

THE GREATEST HERO IN AMERICAN HISTORY IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!

L-girl said...

Damn! The landlord was here gabbing while Papi was trotting (on mute). We were like leave, leave, LEAVE!!!

Grant Salzano said...

I'm liking how this game is looking already.

Goooooo Zn!

L-girl said...

Tony, you're welcome!

Why isn't My Boy playing tonight?

Grant Salzano said...

Bwahaha... can we please have a stressless game? Knock on wood?

L-girl said...

Hi Grant! I like the Zn. A built-in nickname.

Amy said...

Wow, I am here for the FIRST inning. We must be back in home. :(

I was in the car when there were two on, no outs. Now we are up 3-0. Papi dong, I gather?

ish said...

Don: "A double-theft for the Red Sox."

Drink!

L-girl said...

Yup, Papi Dong! Amy, I already asked a question for you. :)

ish said...

USE THE FORCE, LUKE!

Grant Salzano said...

Let's make this one get out of hand, eh?

L-girl said...

Mind Trick! 5-0 in the 1st and only one out!!! Me likee.

Amy said...

LOL about the Scott Feldman comment, Laura! Harvey had a good friend with the same name.

Wow, 5-0! Nice run support for the new guy. I take it he did well in the top of the first?

Grant Salzano said...

Hi Grant! I like the Zn. A built-in nickname.
Thanks! I like it myself :D

L-girl said...

An OTT inning for Zn.

L-girl said...

Bruised tailbone, eh? Hmmm.

Grant Salzano said...

Zn went 1-2-3 :)

Tony said...

Man, the offense is whipping some ass tonight. Keep the pedal to the metal, guys!

Grant Salzano said...

What a weird place to get HBP

redsock said...

GDGD says Flo's HR was to left field.

L-girl said...

I'll keep my Andy-like comment to myself. :)

Amy said...

There must have been some ball player named Gold or Silver for the metal team, no?

A Copper?

Grant Salzano said...

Woooo batted around!

L-girl said...

I'm loving this Texas pitching.

Amy said...

Hmmm, batting around in the FIRST inning? Good thing there is no mercy rule in baseball.

Zenslinger said...

Looking like a long night for Feldman. He has thrown 37 pitches in the first to Zink's 12...and that's only after the walk to Cash.

L-girl said...

Gold or Silver, look it up on BR. You can do it, Amy!

(Or else we can just wait for Phil to show up.)

Grant Salzano said...

This is awesome :D

L-girl said...

Weee, fun!

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Tony said...

YO DJ PUMP THIS PARTY!

Man, poor Feldman's just getting his ass kicked tonight. Sucks to be him!

ish said...

Speaking of Zink, he picked a fantastic night to pitch! A 1-2-3 inning, and before he throws another pitch, he's going to have at least a six run lead!

L-girl said...

JoS is represented at the Fens tonight - Jere is there.

Amy said...

I checked, Laura (on Wikipedia). Feldman is Jewish. His mother must really be suffering right now. Probably thinking he should have been a doctor instead.

redsock said...

i have my glasses on for the laser show.

Grant Salzano said...

Awwww, Zn is #51? Boooux... But alas, it would have been too perfect if he was #30.

L-girl said...

Yeah, 51, Sexy Lips.

More runs! Poor guy. Yay us.

ish said...

Pedroia in the first inning has a multi-hit game!

Amy said...

Can't they get ANYONE out? This is almost getting pathetic. Is this a ML team we are playing? Or is it SoSock's LL team?

Tony said...

FY with two hits in one inning!

redsock said...

MAKE IT 10 FLO!!!!

ish said...

Another three-run dong? COME ON. DO IT.


GO GO GO GO GO GO GOG YES!!!!

Grant Salzano said...

You are kidding.

ish said...

HGDFLSKGHLDFSKHYKLFHDLKHLKSDFHLF!!!!

L-girl said...

Thanks, Amy. Allan mentioned his name last night, and I said he had to be Jewish.

PAPI HITS TWO DONGS IN ONE INNING!!!!!

Amy said...

HOLY SHIT!

redsock said...

FUCK YE#AH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ish said...

SIX RBI IN ONE INNING!!!

L-girl said...

It's like BP out there.

Amy said...

OK, take Feldman out. This is painful.

So....let me ask. Is that the first time someone has hit two 3 run homers in ONE inning?

Tony said...

BOOM BITCH!!!!!! 2 FOR TIZZLE!!!!

What the hell, is Josh Hamilton's BP coach on the mound for Texas tonight?

ish said...

That's amazing. How often do you see a home run hit out that way?

Zenslinger said...

Holy fucking crap.

redsock said...

NOW the pen is up!!!!!!

Grant Salzano said...

Too perfect :D

Now Zn just needs to go 4 more for an easy win... Knock on wood anyway.

L-girl said...

I don't see how it could be the first time, but anything's possible.

Remember two GSs in one inning???

L-girl said...

Cue Don telling us how long Zn has waited...

redsock said...

Amy -- Fernando Tatis hit 2 grand slams in one inning several years ago.

Amy said...

Two GS in an inning by one player?

ish said...

The umpire says uh, we need to play nine so, you're out, Youk.

L-girl said...

Poor Yook, he makes 2 of the 3 outs in one inning!

Zenslinger said...

51 pitches for Feldman. Most had to be rather unenjoyable.

Amy said...

Thanks, Allan. I knew you'd know.

So Feldman struck out Youk twice in the inning. Must be a genetic thing or something.

Tony said...

Man, poor Youk...everybody else is smacking this guy around the park, and he makes 2 of the 3 outs in the inning. Crisp had the other one, but with Tek out of the lineup, that's to be expected.

redsock said...

51 pitches for feldman

Grant Salzano said...

I just want them to pull Feldman. This one inning could have a lasting effect on the entire series if we get to their bullpen in the second.

[Stands and applauds for THAT piece of awesomeness]

L-girl said...

Hey, I knew that too (Tatis). I thought you were asking specifically about 2 3-run dongs.

ish said...

Don: A 28 minute wait.

Tony said...

The two dongs by Tizzle were fantastic, not just for this game - maybe this'll put him on track to get back in a groove.

Amy said...

Oops. Sorry, Laura, I should have given you the credit for the GS answer (though I was asking about 3 run homers.)

Zenslinger said...

Accoring to CBS GDGD, Feldman only earned four of the ten runs. Bay reach on an error, so his run wasn't earned, and nothing after Crisp's out was earned because it should have been three outs then.

nixon33 said...

WOW> i saw the whiole thing while cooking, HOLY SHIT, we are gonna score 30 runs tonight.


youk, 0-2 hahahaha

L-girl said...

Heidi sighting. Yawn.

Thank you, Amy. Credit received. :)

L-girl said...

Oo, Zn's a cutie!

ish said...

Couple old guys behind Heidi are squirming - because she's standing in front of them blocking the game!

ish said...

Well we're on pace to win this game 90-0.

ish said...

80-0*

L-girl said...

I love the name Marlon Byrd, cuz it's like fish bird.

Grant Salzano said...

Boy, Zn's got quite the knuckler.

L-girl said...

80-0, right. 10 runs an inning, we don't bat in the 9th.

ish said...

I just noticed now, that NESN isn't showing the game using the high CF camera.

Grant Salzano said...

Yeah, lol, don't exactly wanna try to score there.

redsock said...

Back to the old camera angle --AND JERE IS NOT HERE TO WITNESS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

ish said...

Damn. Now on pace to win 80-9.

Tony said...

Ah, fiddlesticks.

Amy said...

Glad we have a good cushion for Zn.

Grant Salzano said...

This game is gonna take forever lol

nixon33 said...

come kid. they gave you a huge lead, get outs

ish said...

Makes me wonder if throwing so many fastballs is a good idea tonight. Seems like Zink, who threw almost exclusively knucklers his last outing in Pawtucket, is throwing more fastballs tonight.

But I am not a pitching coach.

Grant Salzano said...

Can't really look at this game as to what Zn can really do, in games like this you just don't pitch the same.

Remember that game against the Marlins that we scored, like, 17 runs in the first? We also gave up like 10 runs that game, but it wasn't really because our pitching sucked, it's because we were throwing strikes to keep pitch counts down just to get the gave over because it practically already was.

L-girl said...

OK, 10 more!

Grant Salzano said...

game*

L-girl said...

Maybe. Or maybe our pitching sucked. It's been known to do that.

Tony said...

Well, thank goodness that's over. Two runs would've been a little harder to swallow if it wasn't Zink's first start, and a LOT less harder if the Sox didn't already have 10 runs in.

Now how about a few more for the home team?

redsock said...

25-8

14 in 1st

Grant Salzano said...

FELDDDDDDMANNNNNN.....

redsock said...

Olney clocked Lowell at 12.6 down the line on that grounder.

Grant Salzano said...

Maybe. Or maybe our pitching sucked. It's been known to do that.

lol actually, if I recall correctly, it HAD been sucking around that point in the season...

25-8

14 in 1st


Ah, yes. I was sorta close I guess lol.

L-girl said...

If we get the all metal team together, I got the mascot: Rin Tin Tin.

Tony said...

Well, this inning's going a bit less swimmingly, I'd say.

Amy said...

Uhoh, raining at Fenway.

L-girl said...

Olney clocked Lowell at 12.6 down the line on that grounder.

Come on, you know we don't time the white guys!

ish said...

Remy, hitting the sauce early. "Thing about rain is, it brings loved ones closer together." Then NESN shows a couple, both having disgusted looks on their face, sitting under one umbrella.

Grant Salzano said...

Welcome To The Hit Parade.

nixon33 said...

BYE BYE, LUGO!

HAHAHAHAHA

L-girl said...

Don & Jerry were smoking up last night, for sure. They were so out of control.

L-girl said...

Don: "...71 games since his lone miscue"

DRINK!

Grant Salzano said...

Darn.

ish said...

On pace now to win the game by a score of 40-9.

Grant Salzano said...

Seriously, couldn't we get some decent reliever or something if we traded Lugo and/or Ococ?

Tony said...

Coco has officially reached Tek territory.

nixon33 said...

only a couple minutes 'til michael kay bliss!

ish said...

Don & Jerry were smoking up last night, for sure. They were so out of control.

Sounds like they have plenty left over for tonight.

L-girl said...

I'm sure the whole league is dying to give up a decent reliever in order to get Julio Lugo!

Grant Salzano said...

ish, seriously, your picture is so good... lol

Grant Salzano said...

I'm sure the whole league is dying to give up a decent reliever in order to get Julio Lugo!

I'll take a PTBNL.

Tony said...

Yeesh, Zink's getting knocked around a bit here. Nerves + good offense + knuckleballer = blech.

Grant Salzano said...

Wow, didn't think we'd go for the lead runner there. Nice play.

Grant Salzano said...

Sit.

L-girl said...

Oy. That OTT inning seems like a long time ago.

Tony said...

Whew, Zink gets out of trouble there.

L-girl said...

"strand a pair"

DRINK!

Amy said...

Finally. This will be one long game. We need to get some good off-topic conversation going.

Laura, that reminds me---how is your sister's cat? Luna is back to her "luna-tic" ways.

L-girl said...

Amy, my sister brought her home last night. She's got a long road in front of her, but she's recovering. Thanks for asking! I'm glad Luna is well again.

L-girl said...

We learned that cats do better if they fall from the 7th to 20th floors - they spread their limbs and turn themselves into feline parachutes. Falls from lower floors are more problematic. Splat.

This cat fell from the 3rd floor, so it was very lucky.

L-girl said...

Werd!

L-girl said...

Allan's having massive computer troubles. He's not happy.

Tony said...

Good to hear your cat's doing okay, l-girl. Hearing about pets getting hurt always makes me cringe a little.

I'm not going to get killed for saying I'm a dog guy, am I? I mean, I like cats just fine and can warm to them, but dogs...dogs make me go all warm and fuzzy in a way few things can.

L-girl said...

doo doo doo, talking to myself...

Amy said...

That's good news, Laura. Cats really are incredibly resilient.

Grant Salzano said...

Don't get your hopes up, there is NO WAY he gets another one... right?

L-girl said...

Tony, it was not my cat, it was my sister's.

Allan and I have two dogs. We've had a series of dogs (all rescues) for about 20 years. We're totally dog people.

Plus I'm allergic to cats.

But just FYI, nobody gets slammed for things like that around here. We're not fascists.

Amy said...

Tony, we are cat and dog people. In fact, I love almost any animal. We have two kittens and a dog.

Sorry for the delay in responding, Laura. I had to fold a little laundry.

phil said...

I was still at work for the first inning. Strong work.

Grant Salzano said...

Papi clocked at 15.6 seconds there.

L-girl said...

Oh no problem! It was just like 4 posts in a row of just me!

OK, woulda been waaaay too much to ask for, 3 3-run dongs!

Grant Salzano said...

The difference being, he was running... lol

Tony said...

Sorry 'bout the mixup...me no read good. Me fail English? That's unpossible!

Glad to hear there are no fascists here. :D

Amy said...

What is wrong with Allan's computer? We need Phil here for technical problems.

L-girl said...

Oh good, Phil's here. There's hope for the all-metal team.

L-girl said...

We can't diagnose Allan's computer in the game thread. It's just a mess.

Fascists don't stand a chance on this blog.

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