August 26, 2008

G131: Red Sox 7, Yankees 3

Red Sox - 012 031 000 - 7 14  2
Yankees - 110 010 000 - 3 10 1
Wakefield (5-8-3-1-1, 80) fluttered through five innings before Terry Francona used five bullpen arms to get through the last four innings. The quintet of Javier Lopez, Manny Delcarmen, Justin Masterson, Hideki Okajima, and Jonathan Papelbon put up a 4-2-0-2-5 line. The lineup presented a balanced attack, as everyone either got a hit or scored a run.

Pettitte walked two batters in the first, but escaped harm. After getting two outs in the second, he allowed a couple of infield hits to third and an RBI single from Jacoby Ellsbury that tied the game at 1-1. After New York got a run with a two-out rally of its own, the Red Sox started the third with three hits: doubles from David Ortiz and Kevin Youkilis, and a single from Jason Bay. Red Sox 3-2.

With two gone in the fifth, Boston scored three times on four straight singles (Bay, Jed Lowrie, Coco Crisp, and Jeff Bailey). Bailey's hit was a high chopper to Alex Rodriguez at third. Slappy's hurried throw to first was low and Jason Giambi could not scoop it. Lowrie scored easily from third -- and then Crisp scored, racing around third and sliding in without a throw! That ended Pettitte's night: 4.2-10-6-3-3, 101.

The bottom of the order shined as Crisp singled three times and stole a base, and both Bailey and Kevin Cash singled twice. In addition to his double, Yook walked three times. And Bay, batting after him, singled twice and hit a sac fly. Ortiz doubled twice and walked twice.

A-Rod (0-for-5) had a rough evening. He struck out looking to end the first, grounded into a 6-4-3 double play to end the third, flew out to center in the fifth, grounded into a 6U-3 double play (as the potential tying run) to end the seventh, and struck out swinging to end the game. He also made a throwing error. The boos were long and loud all night (even when he fielded ground balls cleanly).

If this keeps up -- and why shouldn't it? -- things are going to be pretty ugly in the Bronx by Thursday.

Scoreboard: Toronto beat Tampa Bay 6-2, Chicago beat Baltimore 8-3 and Seattle beat Minnesota 3-2.

***

Tim Wakefield (3.67, 123 ERA+) / Andy Pettitte (4.17, 102 ERA+)

Wakefield comes off the disabled list and makes his first start since August 6. In his last 13 starts (back to May 28) before he went on the DL, he had a 2.66 ERA in 88 innings, limiting opponents to a .194 batting average. In his last six starts against New York, Wakefield is 0-5 with a 8.91 ERA. Chris Smith will likely be sent down to make room on the roster for Wakefield.

New York is pretty well buried anyway.

Cool Standings (after simulating the rest of the season one million times and factoring in strength of schedule):
             DIV    WC   POFF
Tampa Bay 76.4 19.5 95.9
Boston 22.4 54.4 76.8
New York 1.1 6.5 7.6
Baseball Prospectus:
             DIV    WC   POFF
Tampa Bay 77.2 20.7 97.8
Boston 22.4 63.8 86.2
New York 0.4 4.5 4.8
Hank Steinbrenner:
If we put on a run here, there's no question we can make it. There's no question with the number of games we have left, it's possible.
NYDN:
If the Red Sox (75-55) play .500 ball over their final 32 games, they would finish the season with 91 victories. At 70-60, the Yankees would then have to go 21-11 to force a tie with Boston, playing 10 games over .500 during the final five weeks. To put that in perspective, the Yankees are only 10 over during the first 130 games, presenting a daunting task, to say the least.
Pettitte:
I feel like it's a must-win series. I don't think we necessarily need to sweep them, but we need to win the series.
NYP:
What Yankees fans have conveniently forgotten is the Red Sox are not the only other team in the AL wild-card hunt. ... Five games back [in the wild card] with 32 left means the Yankees have to sweep three from the Red Sox, then negotiate a brutal schedule across the final 29 games that ends with three games at Fenway Park.
Mike Lupica, NYDN:
Let's see if the Yankees can hit against a real team the way they did against the Orioles in Baltimore. ... And, while we're at it, let's see how much game Alex Rodriguez will bring to his first playoff run since he signed for the $300 million. If he really is going to be the kind of big Yankee he desperately wants to be, now would be a good time to start. ...

Let's see A-Rod do it to the Red Sox the way Manny and Ortiz did it to the Yankees for years. It's not just on him, of course. But he said how much he wanted games like these, much more than he did all the money. Here they are.
If J.D. Drew cannot play tonight, he may be put on the disabled list. ... Clay Buchholz pitched for Portland last night: 7-5-4(3ER)-0-8.

***

For me, Sunday's 11th-inning win over the Blue Jays was the first butterfly-inducing, sweaty-palmed must-win game of the summer. A loss would have been very tough to handle. It could have dropped us 6.5 GB the FKR -- though they ended up losing to the White Sox.

We are 4.5 GB in the ALE and 1.5 GA in the WC with 32 games to go.


And: Blue Jays/Rays and White Sox/Orioles at 7 and Twins/Mariners at 10.

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A Conformer said...

And I've never even heard Trup!

L-girl said...

I hate that every time I refresh, I have to see Michael Kay!

L-girl said...

Calm down folks, just a long out.

Jere said...

Shemp deep drive, caught shy of track. Is that Jeanine Garafolo behind home plate?

L-girl said...

Ah, 2nd page, no more Kay. Whew.

redsock said...

Go back to the clubhouse and your copy of Juggs, Shemp!

Jere said...

end 4, 3-2 us.

SoSock said...

Godzilla - out to Lyndon. Good. I don't know why, but he makes me swear more than anyone else in their lineup

phil said...

So far we've got Pretty-Good Wakefield, which isn't bad at all.

L-girl said...

Ofer, you can use the Red Sox audio, you know. It might be better.

Jere said...

Of all the run totals in games being played right now that aren't zero, multiples of 3 lead non-multiples of three by a whopping 8-3 margin.

Jere said...

Looked like a dong for Papi, caught on track, one out.

L-girl said...

Pettitte looked relieved.

redsock said...

dang.

ish said...

I've gotten Truped three times so far.

And our cat is getting annoyed with the kitten. Hissed at him. The kitten keeps moving around and then pouncing on him.

phil said...

YES: Youkilis is almost like Paul O'Neill.

L-girl said...

Of all the run totals in games being played right now that aren't zero, multiples of 3 lead non-multiples of three by a whopping 8-3 margin.

I trust if I say your comment gives me a headache, you will not go off in a snit.

A Conformer said...

Ofer, you can use the Red Sox audio, you know. It might be better.

Huh, I didn't realize I could choose- thanks.

Jere said...

You have the right to get or be given a headache, doesn't bother me...

L-girl said...

The kitten keeps moving around and then pouncing on him.

As kittens do.

Our young dog even does it to her old sister.

L-girl said...

Thanks Jere.

The headache is entirely my fault, not yours. I'm trying to figure out what the 8-3 represents.

Jere said...

However, non 3-multiples have cut it to 8-6. And I'll stop keeping track now.

A Conformer said...

dang

Dang (n., slang): A very long fly out, the opposite of dong.

Amy said...

LOL, Laura!

redsock said...

the lord cannot like what he's hearing from andy tonight.

L-girl said...

Re audio/Ofer, glad I said something. I half-assumed for some reason you wanted to hear John Sterling!

I've been really enjoying Castig/O'B on weekends.

Jere said...

Two two-out hits, and it's 1st and 2nd, Coco up.

redsock said...

YAY white guys wth short hair!!!

let's go ococ. tell nix to STFU!

Amy said...

Cousin on phone...sigh.

L-girl said...

Dang (n., slang): A very long fly out, the opposite of dong

I just said that! But out loud, to Allan. "A dang instead of a dong?"

Jere said...

Halladay doing a fine job. Low run flow for the Tampans.

A Conformer said...

I must say that English speaking people don't get the whole "calling god's name in vain" thing. Saying god or lord doesn't count. Only the actual, real name of god does. And I don't think it's even possible to say the real name of god in English.

ish said...

I've had enough cat fun... Time to actually pay attention to this game.

OCOC DUNKS ONE!

phil said...

!!

redsock said...

nice tag, ALEX!



low flor for tampans!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jere said...

Bay lookin' instead o' runnin, but still scores standing on Coco's bloop hit.

L-girl said...

SAFE!!!!

Nix 800,002

Ooco 8

A Conformer said...

Ococ!! Show fucking Nix who's boss!

Jere said...

"And I don't think it's even possible to say the real name of god in English."

Like the mermaid's name in Splash?? Should we just call this god character "Madison"?

ish said...

So... 800,000 Nix... How much for Coco now? 8?

redsock said...

I'll repeat what i said this weekend -- by november, nix will own a crips jersey!!!!!!!

SB for the Ococinator!

ish said...

How did Nix get 2?

A Conformer said...

It's funny, I think this whole Coco vs Nixon thing could evolve into just being "FU NIX!!!" every time ococ does something good.

Like now! Go Ococ go! Double digits!

phil said...

Weak throw. 2 score. Sweet.

ish said...

GUMBALL!!!! OCOC GETS ANOTHER.

phil said...

Suck it, HGHiambi.

ish said...

Two runs score on an infield hit!!

redsock said...

HGH sleeps.

and COCO TAKES THE FUCKING BULL BY THE HORNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

L-girl said...

Ish, scroll up, we gave Ococ 2 for that last one, so he's up to 8.

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

2 RUNS SCORE WE ARE SO FUCKING GREAT!!!!!!!

Jere said...

Two runs score?? This is fucking sweet! And Andy's gone.

redsock said...

BUH BYE ANDY!

ish said...

I love it. The Red Sox are making it look easy.

L-girl said...

It's funny, I think this whole Coco vs Nixon thing could evolve into just being "FU NIX!!!" every time ococ does something good.

Nix is just the man to like that, too!

Jere said...

Grounder right down line, A-Rod probably not gonna get to it, but it hits the base and bounces up and toward him. He gets it cleanly, throws to first, but Bailey barely safe, and TWO runs score.

A Conformer said...

WTF just happened? Sounded very strange on the play by play. Infield hit to Arod, went to first, Bailey was safe, and meanwhile Coco went home? Do I have that right?

phil said...

Bruney's GDGD picture lost weight this year.

phil said...

Pretty much, a.c.

redsock said...

MAKE TITO APOLOGIZE!!!!!!!!

Jere said...

The new skinny Bruney is called "Svelt-stika."

A Conformer said...

"And I don't think it's even possible to say the real name of god in English."

Like the mermaid's name in Splash?? Should we just call this god character "Madison"?


Oh, no, the name is Yehova. I just think that if you say it in English, it doesn't count. It has to do with sacred letters and stuff. A lot of importance to the written word in Judaism.

redsock said...

another 2-out rally. 4 hits = 3 runs.

phil said...

Baily hits a hard single down the 3B line which A-Rod improbably fields but can't throw him out at first. Giambi gloves it and sort of wanders off, while Coco heads home on a stutter step. No throw at the plate.

SoSock said...

The Red Sox are making it look easy.

Insert wagging finger here.

And no, that's not a sexual reference!

redsock said...

And the nazi relieves the "big game pitcher"!

9casey said...

Anyone check out Nix's new blog.....where he got called a cracker.....HE CRACKS ME UP...outstanding play by Coco

L-girl said...

A lot of importance to the written word in Judaism.

Andy Pettitte's not Jewish so I think he goes by different rules.

redsock said...

pettitte - 2 quick outs, then .........

4.1-10-6-3-3, 101

A Conformer said...

Why is Bruney a nazi? Must have missed that one...

SoSock said...

I really wish I could have seen the infield 1B that scored 2!
I'll have to watch SC tonite, maybe they'll show it.

L-girl said...

The whole "unpronounceable word with a phoentic stand-in" thing scared me when I was a kid. I thought if I said the wrong thing out loud lightning would strike me or something.

Jere said...

Talk about shamelessly marketing to your target audience. That furniture dude sits there, tells you all about his furniture, and then looks down at a newspaper and says, "oh, more good news, the Sox won."

redsock said...

TOR: 102 00
FKR: 000 0

CWS: 211 20
BAL: 000 1

MIN:
SEA:

phil said...

Bruney's got iron-cross tattoos, iirc.

L-girl said...

bah, another hgh dong

9C back with the spank avatar, I see.

redsock said...

remy says "my sources tell me" yaz was released from hospital.

you mean the AP 5 hours ago?

A Conformer said...

Andy Pettitte's not Jewish so I think he goes by different rules.

I'm not an expert, and this religion thing is getting kinda boring (for me, at least), but saying god's name in vain is from the ten commandments, which is from the tanah (the old testament), so it's a jewish law, and not a christian one. It's just one of those that christians chose not to change.

L-girl said...

what's the wagging finger for? jinx, tempting fate, etc.?

BAH

SoSock said...

Thanks for the update - GO JAYS!

A Conformer said...

Fucking Damon. Well, at least it reminds me of another game in the Toilet in which he had 2 HRs. Any guesses which one?

9casey said...

L-girl said...
bah, another hgh dong

9C back with the spank avatar, I see.



Classic male gratuity, that makes me wish I was a paddle....

phil said...

Sack up, Wake.

Jere said...

Nazi.

L-girl said...

With respect to present company who might be Christian, a lot of them could use a refresher course in those commandments.

redsock said...

lopez up

...

get april-rod

9casey said...

L-girl said...
With respect to present company who might be Christian, a lot of them could use a refresher course in those commandments.



If you are teachin' I'll be there..:)

Jere said...

YOu're gonna get seriously booed if you DP again, Arod

L-girl said...

But it's an iron cross, not a swastika.

SoSock said...

Full of confidence - but seems a tad early for lo0oking easy.

L-girl said...

If you are teachin' I'll be there..:)

Ha! I'll serve tofu. :)

Jere said...

That "pre-arranged" throw to first seemed to cause Wake a strike call.

phil said...

Fans boing A-Rod.

Jere said...

I know, iron cross, and he's got all kinds of reasons why it represents "strength" or whatever, but come on. Nazi.

9casey said...

L-girl said...
If you are teachin' I'll be there..:)

Ha! I'll serve tofu. :)



Jesus, you don't forget shit...I'll be there with my bible and veggie dogs for all..

L-girl said...

go blue jays!

Jere said...

hey, he got the boos for merely making one out. nice.

ish said...

A-Rod got booed. Haha.

redsock said...

boos for bluelips.

in 1976, bill lee called billy martin "a nazi" and the entire team "steinbrenner's brown shirts". good enough for me.

L-girl said...

I totally don't get iron cross = nazis. Makes no sense. But whatever, if he's a Nazi, he's a Nazi.

A Conformer said...

Huh, it's interesting that in such a politically correct country like the US, they don't make him hide those. Well, it's not a swastika or anything, but still.

Booing slappy! WOOHOO!

phil said...

Iron crosses got pretty firmly associated with Nazis during WW2, though there's been some effort to revive them in recent years.

9casey said...

A Conformer said...
Huh, it's interesting that in such a politically correct country like the US, they don't make him hide those.



Who is they?

Amy said...

Finally, off the phone. Why would anyone call me during a Red Sox/Yankee game??

So... I missed us scoring three runs. Got to scroll up and see what I missed.

Jere said...

NESN announcers talking about a "tie up" between Cash and ump--yet replay shows no such thing.

L-girl said...

Politically correct country? Really?? Wow, interesting observation.

phil said...

Crowd cheers that flyball pretty hard.

redsock said...

Coco - TCB!

Jere said...

Out of inning. 6-3 us after 5. 3-0 Jays after 5.

phil said...

I assume "they" is the same MFY management that can't abide beards or long hair.

9casey said...

L-girl said...
Politically correct country? Really?? Wow, interesting observation.



My thoughts exactly...do you have cable..

L-girl said...

Amy, the question is why do you talk to them? That's what voice mail is for. Or "I'm watching a Red Sox/Yankee game, talk to you another time".

SoSock said...

Nice job Wake!
Pile on, NOW!

9casey said...

Yeah Wake....

Jere said...

Iron cross/nazi shit.

9casey said...

Amy, are you still on the Cape?

L-girl said...

I thought Cash got hung up with the ump, too, on 1st view. I guess not.

A Conformer said...

Who is they?

The Yankees, who are a very public organization. If it's something that's associated with Nazism, you think they wouldn't want the bad publicity.

L-girl said...

Right Jere, I'm not saying there's no connection, just that iron cross is not only a Nazi symbol, it has other associations for lots of non-Nazi ppl.

I know the swastika once did, too, but no longer.

But like I said, whatever, if you guys call him that, then wth.

Jere said...

Sveltstika does have long sleeves on tonight....

Amy said...

OK, up to date.

How did we get on the saying the Lord's name in vain thing?? The explanation for how to say the name that I always liked best is that it is YHWH which is really like breathing in and breathing out. So we are always saying it.

FY on base!

L-girl said...

Is it cool there tonight or are they making him wear the sleeves?

ish said...

Casey, how was Stratham?

Jere said...

it is slightly cool and he is a pitcher, so i think coincidence.

A Conformer said...

Politically correct country? Really?? Wow, interesting observation.

I think what I call PC is different from what you think. PC for me means fake worry about potentially insulting things in any kind of public domain, to guard against lawsuits/a fall in ratings/customer dissatisfaction. What's your definition?

Amy said...

Casey, I am back home. Classes started yesterday. We will still go back for weekends until mid-October, when they turn off our water.

Tony said...

Evening, everybody! Looks like things are going well...

9casey said...

Bruney said this:"It has nothing to do with being a Nazi symbol," the Yankee reliever said. "It's actually a Maltese Cross that Christian warriors wore way before World War II and it symbolizes strength, honor, and integrity — three virtues that are the most important to me, ones that I live my life by."

phil said...

If you say "hashem", you offend no one.

Amy said...

Who was wearing an iron cross/swastika? I missed that.

Jere said...

I'm just sayin', if white hoods with eyes cut out of them suddenly were brought back in an attempt to "un-Klan" them--I'd still go ahead and make the call to NOT wear one. Let alone get one permanently attached to my head.

phil said...

FY thrown out, but it's a walk.

A Conformer said...

If you say "hashem", you offend no one.

For non Hebrew speakers (are there any of those here?), that means "the name"

9casey said...

ish said...
Casey, how was Stratham?

Cool, Ish ,thanks all the family was there even the Aroostock(sp) county folk made it.....

phil said...

amy: Bruney has an iron cross tattoo on his forearm.

L-girl said...

I think what I call PC is different from what you think. PC for me means fake worry about potentially insulting things in any kind of public domain, to guard against lawsuits/a fall in ratings/customer dissatisfaction. What's your definition?

Ah yes, the US is definitely that!

My definition... eh, not now. Too complicated.

Tony said...

Ducks on the pond. Advance your MVP campaign, Youk!

phil said...

Even the YES announcers are calling bullshit on Girardi's griping on that pitch.

Jere said...

Yeah the pitch was clearly a ball and you 're complaining because you suck.

9casey said...

Jere said...
Yeah the pitch was clearly a ball and you 're complaining because you suck


Desperate

phil said...

Ducks on the pond.

LBJ flew out.

Jere said...

"Even the YES announcers are calling bullshit on Girardi's griping on that pitch."

Woohoo! THANK YOU.

L-girl said...

Jere, absolutely. My point is that I - me, speaking for myself - do not associate an iron cross with Nazism. Not that it's been de-Nazified, that I never think of that in the first place, is all.

phil said...

Ducks on the pond.

Carry on.

Jere said...

Joe's complaining: It's the classic "show the owner we know how important beating the Red Sox is."

Tony said...

GGOW strikes again!

redsock said...

3 walks (or goose steps) for bruney!

L-girl said...

Let's have a Canuck dong here!

Amy said...

Thanks, Phil, for the Bruney explanation.

I never understand people who write G-d. That isn't God's name. Hashem means the name...nothing holy about that either.

Still curious how we got on this...guess I need to read back more slowly...later.

We have the bases loaded. Need to focus.

A Conformer said...

Bruney said this:"It has nothing to do with being a Nazi symbol," the Yankee reliever said. "It's actually a Maltese Cross that Christian warriors wore way before World War II and it symbolizes strength, honor, and integrity — three virtues that are the most important to me, ones that I live my life by."

Fair enough. I'd have no problem with someone wearing a swastika to symbolize luck and prosperity or whatever it symbolizes in Sanskrit. But he would have to be pretty convincing about that being his reasons. And I would still think that's a bad idea, considering what that means today.

Anyway, Bruney is fine by me as long as he keeps walking Sox hitters.

phil said...

Hey, it's a run.

L-girl said...

Ok, a Canadian dang instead, but it gets one in!

SoSock said...

Wow, had to break away to help Cat get in the tub. Liking what I see.
Juiced for the Bay

Jere said...

ANd also--Joe will get ejected tonight. Looking for that "spark" which teams now think they can get automatically from getting mad or fighting. Because it "unites" you, which is BS.

7-3 on the Bay scrotum fly.

redsock said...

girardi: "but but but every pitch we throw is a strike ... we're yankees!"

SoSock said...

Bay Sac!. Pile on Jedi!

phil said...

I never understand people who write G-d. ... Hashem means the name...nothing holy about that either.

One's a translation. The other's a euphemism.

redsock said...

get on jed - give coco a chance

L-girl said...

People write g-d for the same reason people do most things: that's what they were taught.

phil said...

Bruney mouths "finally".

Jere said...

3-2 Tor

Amy said...

God isn't a translation of YHWH. It's like calling a professor Professor instead of by his/her name. Or calling a doctor Doctor.

Hashem is often used instead of saying Adonai, which just means "lord."

It's like putting three extra layers of insulation on to avoid doing wrong. I think the Orthodox say its like making an extra fence to avoid even coming close to violating the law.

Jere said...

Hey, speaking of Yankee Nazis, ha, did everyone see the Shelley Duncan "seig heil" video?

L-girl said...

You can't argue about what's right and wrong when it comes to religion. It's just what people are comfortable with.

For someone like me, who thinks it's all 100% bullshit, this like arguing how many angels fit on the head of a pin.

People like to write g-d? People don't? People think saying Oh God is using the name in vain? People don't? It's all fine for them. Not for you? Then not. You can't argue right or wrong.

A Conformer said...

It's like putting three extra layers of insulation on to avoid doing wrong. I think the Orthodox say its like making an extra fence to avoid even coming close to violating the law.

Yep, a good deal of Orthodox Jewish laws are "security circles" or laws to avoid the appearance of sin, even if it's not really a sin.

redsock said...

wheat thins uber alles

ish said...

There are people who wouldn't let someone explain why they were wearing a swastika before pummeling them. Among other things.

Jere said...

"For someone like me, who thinks [religion is] all 100% bullshit, this like arguing how many angels fit on the head of a pin."

Great line!

redsock said...

mdc up

phil said...

jere: I have now.

L-girl said...

Yes, but it's not a swastika.

Jere said...

That bat split like Roy Hobbs' Wonder Boy bat!

ish said...

Yes, but it's not a swastika.

Right.

phil said...

But writing "G-d" helps with upping your spot-the-Jew score.

9casey said...

Anyone know how do fold a fitted sheet , becuase my wife just informed me rolling up in a ball is not correct....

redsock said...

like arguing how many angels fit on the head of a pin

34

phil said...

Does the fan get to keep the bat?

L-girl said...

But writing "G-d" helps with upping your spot-the-Jew score.

Probably why I find it so grating.

phil said...

Anyone know how do fold a fitted sheet , becuase my wife just informed me rolling up in a ball is not correct....

If you want to be passive aggressive, fold it like a flag.

A Conformer said...

You can't argue about what's right and wrong when it comes to religion. It's just what people are comfortable with.

For someone like me, who thinks it's all 100% bullshit, this like arguing how many angels fit on the head of a pin.

People like to write g-d? People don't? People think saying Oh God is using the name in vain? People don't? It's all fine for them. Not for you? Then not. You can't argue right or wrong.


I don't know if you meant me or not, but I think you know I could probably give you a run for your money in non-belief. I'm mostly making conversation, sharing knowledge, and pointing out sides on a debate I know about. I have no side in that debate, since it's all meaningless for me anyway.

phil said...

Probably why I find it so grating.

You find Jews grating?

9casey said...

phil said...
Does the fan get to keep the bat?



No, Bruney gets it

Amy said...

You're right, Laura, that no one can be right or wrong about how to practice religion. But there are far too many people who do not believe that and who believe that they have an inside track on what is "right." I don't care what anyone does, as long as they don't tell me that I am wrong for not practicing the way they do---whether they are other Jews or non-Jews.

ish said...

Interesting conversation tonight.

A Conformer said...

like arguing how many angels fit on the head of a pin

34


Sorry, 42. And I'm willing to defend that with my life.

phil said...

You don't have to believe in religion to call someone out for religious hypocrisy.

Jere said...

Duncan Uber Alles

Amy said...

LOL, Casey, it is one of the great mysteries of laundry for me. My mother can make any sheet look so neat and flat. I go with the do the best you can and stick it on the shelf approach.

phil said...

Steve Shemo on the all security-circle team?

phil said...

Past a diving Cano.

ish said...

My troubles begin with how to fit towels into a closet without ruining the fold. They're folded when I try to put them in.

L-girl said...

Ofer, nope, didn't mean you, and I am as atheist as one can possibly get. I have not a spiritual cell in my brain.

Phil, no, I don't find Jews grating. Indeed, I am one.

Amy, I agree. I think there are as many religions as there are people. It's very personal.

And 42 is the correct answer.

A Conformer said...

You're right, Laura, that no one can be right or wrong about how to practice religion. But there are far too many people who do not believe that and who believe that they have an inside track on what is "right." I don't care what anyone does, as long as they don't tell me that I am wrong for not practicing the way they do---whether they are other Jews or non-Jews.

I actually think that today's merge of religion and tolerance makes no sense. I think that if you're religious, you have to think you're right. Otherwise, what exactly do you believe in?

FU NIX!!!! HAHAHA

Amy said...

Like you, Ofer, I just find the views and explanations interesting. I myself am probably more religious than most here, but I still decide for myself which practices have meaning for me and why. I am not good with top down religion (or anything else, for that matter).

redsock said...

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phil said...

Phil, no, I don't find Jews grating. Indeed, I am one.

But we've got three synagogues between the two of us.

L-girl said...

Steve Shemo on the all security-circle team?

no comprendo

SoSock said...

oCoC bucking for a raise ?

ish said...

Gumball was named the International League MVP for 2008. Fantastic. Not sure if anyone mentioned it.

9casey said...

A Conformer said...
I think that if you're religious, you have to think you're right. Otherwise, what exactly do you believe in?



Great point.....

A Conformer said...

Man, it feels like a blowout, with all the talk today...

phil said...

Coco safe.

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