August 26, 2008

G131: Red Sox 7, Yankees 3

Red Sox - 012 031 000 - 7 14  2
Yankees - 110 010 000 - 3 10 1
Wakefield (5-8-3-1-1, 80) fluttered through five innings before Terry Francona used five bullpen arms to get through the last four innings. The quintet of Javier Lopez, Manny Delcarmen, Justin Masterson, Hideki Okajima, and Jonathan Papelbon put up a 4-2-0-2-5 line. The lineup presented a balanced attack, as everyone either got a hit or scored a run.

Pettitte walked two batters in the first, but escaped harm. After getting two outs in the second, he allowed a couple of infield hits to third and an RBI single from Jacoby Ellsbury that tied the game at 1-1. After New York got a run with a two-out rally of its own, the Red Sox started the third with three hits: doubles from David Ortiz and Kevin Youkilis, and a single from Jason Bay. Red Sox 3-2.

With two gone in the fifth, Boston scored three times on four straight singles (Bay, Jed Lowrie, Coco Crisp, and Jeff Bailey). Bailey's hit was a high chopper to Alex Rodriguez at third. Slappy's hurried throw to first was low and Jason Giambi could not scoop it. Lowrie scored easily from third -- and then Crisp scored, racing around third and sliding in without a throw! That ended Pettitte's night: 4.2-10-6-3-3, 101.

The bottom of the order shined as Crisp singled three times and stole a base, and both Bailey and Kevin Cash singled twice. In addition to his double, Yook walked three times. And Bay, batting after him, singled twice and hit a sac fly. Ortiz doubled twice and walked twice.

A-Rod (0-for-5) had a rough evening. He struck out looking to end the first, grounded into a 6-4-3 double play to end the third, flew out to center in the fifth, grounded into a 6U-3 double play (as the potential tying run) to end the seventh, and struck out swinging to end the game. He also made a throwing error. The boos were long and loud all night (even when he fielded ground balls cleanly).

If this keeps up -- and why shouldn't it? -- things are going to be pretty ugly in the Bronx by Thursday.

Scoreboard: Toronto beat Tampa Bay 6-2, Chicago beat Baltimore 8-3 and Seattle beat Minnesota 3-2.

***

Tim Wakefield (3.67, 123 ERA+) / Andy Pettitte (4.17, 102 ERA+)

Wakefield comes off the disabled list and makes his first start since August 6. In his last 13 starts (back to May 28) before he went on the DL, he had a 2.66 ERA in 88 innings, limiting opponents to a .194 batting average. In his last six starts against New York, Wakefield is 0-5 with a 8.91 ERA. Chris Smith will likely be sent down to make room on the roster for Wakefield.

New York is pretty well buried anyway.

Cool Standings (after simulating the rest of the season one million times and factoring in strength of schedule):
             DIV    WC   POFF
Tampa Bay 76.4 19.5 95.9
Boston 22.4 54.4 76.8
New York 1.1 6.5 7.6
Baseball Prospectus:
             DIV    WC   POFF
Tampa Bay 77.2 20.7 97.8
Boston 22.4 63.8 86.2
New York 0.4 4.5 4.8
Hank Steinbrenner:
If we put on a run here, there's no question we can make it. There's no question with the number of games we have left, it's possible.
NYDN:
If the Red Sox (75-55) play .500 ball over their final 32 games, they would finish the season with 91 victories. At 70-60, the Yankees would then have to go 21-11 to force a tie with Boston, playing 10 games over .500 during the final five weeks. To put that in perspective, the Yankees are only 10 over during the first 130 games, presenting a daunting task, to say the least.
Pettitte:
I feel like it's a must-win series. I don't think we necessarily need to sweep them, but we need to win the series.
NYP:
What Yankees fans have conveniently forgotten is the Red Sox are not the only other team in the AL wild-card hunt. ... Five games back [in the wild card] with 32 left means the Yankees have to sweep three from the Red Sox, then negotiate a brutal schedule across the final 29 games that ends with three games at Fenway Park.
Mike Lupica, NYDN:
Let's see if the Yankees can hit against a real team the way they did against the Orioles in Baltimore. ... And, while we're at it, let's see how much game Alex Rodriguez will bring to his first playoff run since he signed for the $300 million. If he really is going to be the kind of big Yankee he desperately wants to be, now would be a good time to start. ...

Let's see A-Rod do it to the Red Sox the way Manny and Ortiz did it to the Yankees for years. It's not just on him, of course. But he said how much he wanted games like these, much more than he did all the money. Here they are.
If J.D. Drew cannot play tonight, he may be put on the disabled list. ... Clay Buchholz pitched for Portland last night: 7-5-4(3ER)-0-8.

***

For me, Sunday's 11th-inning win over the Blue Jays was the first butterfly-inducing, sweaty-palmed must-win game of the summer. A loss would have been very tough to handle. It could have dropped us 6.5 GB the FKR -- though they ended up losing to the White Sox.

We are 4.5 GB in the ALE and 1.5 GA in the WC with 32 games to go.


And: Blue Jays/Rays and White Sox/Orioles at 7 and Twins/Mariners at 10.

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Benjamin said...

Whee.

Amy said...

Now there I disagree, but that sounds just like a discussion I had with an Israeli teenager years ago. He said that you had to either be strictly observant or nothing at all (he was the latter). I just disagree. I think people can find meaning in different levels of observance by reading and learning and choosing which have meaning for them. For me, e.g., kashruth has meaning because it ties to my belief in valuing animal life.

OK, let's not talk about those assholes out in Iowa...

laura k said...

Ofer, that's not true. You can believe you are right *for you*. I was raised with Judaism, and I was never taught it was the right way or the only way or better than other religions. Just that it was one way, and there are many others.

Benjamin said...

Bradford in for FKR with two on and two out.

SoSock said...

So I went to help her out of the tub, and when I get back a whole 1/2 inning has passed. I said "self - how's that?"
Then I scrolled back on GDGD and saw a 9-pitch OTT by Lopez.
Maybe it IS looking easy!

laura k said...

Otherwise, what exactly do you believe in?



Great point...


You believe you're right for yourself. And you don't presume to know what's right for other people.

No contradiction there.

Benjamin said...

Ump with the fake safe call but then motions out.

Benjamin said...

Well remembers he's allowed to kill other teams too. 4-2 TOR.

allan said...

looks like the jays have a couple on in the 7th

Benjamin said...

*Wells.

A Conformer said...

Ofer, that's not true. You can believe you are right *for you*. I was raised with Judaism, and I was never taught it was the right way or the only way or better than other religions. Just that it was one way, and there are many others.

Of course, I totally agree. But as far as I'm concerned, if you think it's right for you, then you think it's right. There's no such thing as objective truth. You can find things interesting, and learn about them, and see if they fit your world view or not, but as long as you don't think they're right, then you don't really believe.
Does that make sense? My philosophy talk sometimes get a bit convoluted...

laura k said...

I also can't fold fitted sheets. And my mother also folds them flat as the proverbial pancake. She has shown me how dozens of times. No can do.

Amy said...

It would be so sweet if we win and Tampa loses...with the Yankee loss as icing on the cake.

Benjamin said...

Bradford pulled after giving up the one run in one at bat. The Millionaire is in.

Amy said...

Maybe it's a generational thing, folding fitted sheets. A lost art, like writing with a fountain pen.

laura k said...

Ofer, it does make sense, but I disagree. But I would just be repeating myself.

Benjamin said...

You believe you're right for yourself. And you don't presume to know what's right for other people.
...
Of course, I totally agree.

That's no way to start a crusade.

A Conformer said...

I just mean that if you're religious, thinking "I believe one thing, he believes another, and both might be true" doesn't make sense. Thinking "I believe one thing, he believes another, he has a right to but I think he is wrong" does.

Benjamin said...

Bob Casey's eyebrows frighten me.

SoSock said...

I have to go with LG here. I come from a very mixed background. There are those who think I am "wrong" in my beliefs. That's their perogative. But they also assume I think they are wrong. And that IS wrong. They shouldn't assume that. I happen to believe evryone's relationship to their god is very personal and individual. It isn't wrong, it's just (here you go Jere!)....what it is.

laura k said...

Generational thing, yes.

I wonder if it will make a comeback, like preserving fruit and knitting. Generations younger than us are doing both.

Speaking of which, where's Joe? I wanted to ask him how he liked Niagara Falls.

9casey said...

Why pull Lopez with Damon on deck?

Amy said...

Ofer, perhaps if you mean by "believe" that you believe it is commanded by God. I don't believe anything is commanded by God. But I can "believe" that some of the practices and rituals and principles are meaningful and can add moral value and meaning to my life. Does that make sense? I don't think it is anything divine or immortal, but I still practice those things that add meaning to my life.

A Conformer said...

Bailey out= defensive substitution? He had a nice game, all in all.

9casey said...

L-girl said...

Speaking of which, where's Joe? I wanted to ask him how he liked Niagara Falls.


Did he stay with you yet?

Benjamin said...

So which is the more irrelevant game tonight: FLA/ATL or CIN/HOU?

Amy said...

Oh, yeah, how was the visit with Joe? Did you avoid any discussions of Tim Russert? :)

Benjamin said...

Does that make sense?

Yes.

I'm not a sociologist, but I can fake it.

Jere said...

nice K, fake-pudge

laura k said...

I just mean that if you're religious, thinking "I believe one thing, he believes another, and both might be true" doesn't make sense.

It does if you believe religion is personal, and that the supreme being, deity, whateveritis, comes to different people in different guises. Many people believe just that. "God has many faces" kind of thing. In that way of thinking, there is a lot of room for both belief and tolerance.

allan said...

mfy fans expecting 1998 i-rod
so they are booing 2008 i-rod

Amy said...

I knew about knitting, but preserving fruit? I haven't seen anyone yet doing that.

Rob said...

Luckily I haven't found myself in the company of people who decide to lecture about their religion to me and chastise me for not going to church... People told me after my crash that god was looking after me.

Religion to me is merely the question of what will happen after I die. My answer is I don't know. What will happen will happen, but I don't feel I'm going to be affected one way or the other if I practice a religion or if I don't. I hope it's not just nothing after I die, though. But I try not to worry about it.

9casey said...

L-girl said...
Generational thing, yes.

I wonder if it will make a comeback, like preserving fruit and knitting.


I for one hope so...My sister knits....and the closest my family comes to perserving fruit..banana bread.......

Rob said...

Oh, yeah, how was the visit with Joe? Did you avoid any discussions of Tim Russert? :)

His son, Luke, is doing reports for NBC at the DNC, I heard.

Amy said...

I am hating Damon more and more. Has he made an out yet tonight?

allan said...

Bunting is a lost art. But it's never coming back. (/peoplesuchascostas)

SoSock said...

Tito playing musical infielders!
And I like Amy's change of subject :)
I kept up the laundry while Cat was in the hospital. Actually I always do the washing/drying, bt she usually folds stuff.
I tried to fold our king-size sheets and developed a new appreciation for the art of folding.
That's really a 2-man job.

9casey said...

MDC scares the living shit out of me....

Jere said...

what I don't get is, if religion is supposed to be this personal thing, why does everyone's religion come from a book? Or from ideas that others came up with?

I'd respect someone who worshipped something in a way they made up completely on their own.

allan said...

Noodle: 4-3 to end the 2nd

laura k said...

9C/Amy: Joe was here this past weekend. He went to 2 of the Sox games in Toronto (Fri night win, Saturday blow out loss) and a Toronto FC game.

We hung out a little in the morning, he drove into the city with us (we were going to work, he was going to the games). It was fun, he's very sweet. He was unbelievably appreciative of staying over. Waaay too many thank yous. :)

Then he left on Sunday and they were going to Niagara Falls on their way home. All 80 of them!

A Conformer said...

It does if you believe religion is personal, and that the supreme being, deity, whateveritis, comes to different people in different guises. Many people believe just that. "God has many faces" kind of thing. In that way of thinking, there is a lot of room for both belief and tolerance.

OK, I understand what you mean now. Interesting. I'll have to think that over.
...that's no way to end a crusade (-:

Benjamin said...

Why pull Lopez with Damon on deck?

Damon versus Lopez: .500 .500 1.000

Small sample size (two at bats).

laura k said...

His son, Luke, is doing reports for NBC at the DNC, I heard.

That is Joe's friend, they went to school together, hence at least part of his attachment to Luke's dad.

Amy said...

Ofer, maybe we are all just so used to pluralism that the idea that different religions can all be "right" is just not that hard for us to hold in our heads.

allan said...

yet another cheapo hit to right for jeter (/jere)

Jere said...

would've been an easy out in the still unused jeter shift

Rob said...

What a blur, tonight's been. I haven't been able to focus on one single thing at all.

Amy said...

My grandmother used to IRON sheets. Imagine that!

laura k said...

Preserving fruit is part of eating locally, for some people. So serious conscious/local eaters are doing it.

People told me after my crash that god was looking after me.

And I suppose if you had been seriously disabled or killed, god would have been out to get you? What bullshit.

9casey said...

Amy said...
Ofer, maybe we are all just so used to pluralism that the idea that different religions can all be "right" is just not that hard for us to hold in our heads.



They all can't be right...the there would be no war....and how much would that suck...

Amy said...

Thanks, Allan, re Damon's out.

Benjamin said...

Navarro leaves the game with an injured leg.

A Conformer said...

Ofer, maybe we are all just so used to pluralism that the idea that different religions can all be "right" is just not that hard for us to hold in our heads.

Serious question: do I sound like I'm not used to the idea of pluralism?
BTW, pluralism, like everything else, can become dogmatic...

laura k said...

pluralism > crusade

lurkkher said...

Re: sheets - ask Google and ye shall receive. How to Fold a Fitted Sheet Like a Pro.

C'mon MDC, let's get this inning over with already!

Amy said...

I meant most reasonable people, 9C---not fanatics who cause wars.

Oh, SHIT, who else is ready in the pen? We seem to have the evil MDC tonight.

Benjamin said...

Fucking MDC.

9casey said...

Manny Delcarmen is useless.....

laura k said...

ironing sheets < almost anything

SoSock said...

I hope someone is warming in the pen, and I hope even more that if Abe gets on, MDC is off. The mound, that is.

A Conformer said...

They all can't be right...the there would be no war....and how much would that suck...

Of course there would be. Religious wars are so passe. Money is the operative word in modern war.

9casey said...

Amy said...
I meant most reasonable people, 9C---not fanatics who cause wars.


I know I'm just being a smartass..

allan said...

MDC - millions of walked yankees.

masterson in to clean it up. time to get slappy to gidp!

SoSock said...

And, apparently, as I'm typing....
THAT happened.

laura k said...

kkh, it's not that we don't know the steps. as i said, my mother has shown them to me dozens of times. but that is different than actually performing the task. google can't do that.

A Conformer said...

Arod with a really really good chance to earn that choker tag. He can also earn a lot of boos as an added bonus.

9casey said...

Where is redsock? Is he kickin in the television?

laura k said...

Of course there would be. Religious wars are so passe. Money is the operative word in modern war.

I was going to say as long as there is profit there will be war. Glad you said it for me. :)

I know I'm just being a smartass..

And you're so good at it!

A Conformer said...

Why all this Sheets talk? Is he throwing a perfect game or something? (;

allan said...

Hey Justin: I wanna hear a shitload of boos!

lurkkher said...

And I suppose if you had been seriously disabled or killed, god would have been out to get you? What bullshit.

Yeah, I don't get that at all either -- where was god before the damn crash??

Benjamin said...

Thanks, Slappy!

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

laura k said...

YES!!!!!

THE MASTER!

allan said...

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS


FUICK YEWAH

Rob said...

Even in sports. In baseball, a guy will thank god he was able to strike out the batter. So does that mean god was against the batter?

A lot of people believe god is involved with every day life, rather than sitting back and watching things happen.

Boo birds are out for BLOOD.

Benjamin said...

Barajas dong. 5-2 TOR.

Jere said...

when I think Sheets, I still think Larry.

YEAHHHHH!!! Booooooooo, hahahahaha another double playrod

Jere said...

and 5-2 toronto

9casey said...

Fuck yeah. Bitches......

Rob said...

Yeah, I don't get that at all either -- where was god before the damn crash??

Why couldn't god tell the guy who hit me to pay fucking attention to driving.

A Conformer said...

So so so predictable.

Logic be damned, I'm starting to think that Arod really is a choker, gutless, afraid of the spotlight untrue Yankee.

SoSock said...

WAY TO GO BAT M!
EAT THAT< K-ROD!

Just filling in, ya know :)

Amy said...

Ofer, I wasn't suggesting that you are used to pluralism. I apologize if it came off that way.


NICE JOB, MASTERSON!

allan said...

Yeah, I don't get that at all either -- where was god before the damn crash??

Helloooo? He has a plan. Jeez.

Rob said...

New York is not a good place for Rods tonight.

Toronto is!

Benjamin said...

Why couldn't god tell the guy who hit me to pay fucking attention to driving.

Too many crappy little prayers clogging the bandwidth, I guess.

allan said...

masterson in to clean it up. time to get slappy to gidp!

HELLMOTHERFUCKINGYEAH.

made to order!

Rob said...

Chocolate Rain!

Jere said...

"He has a plan."

So he's pro-family planning?

9casey said...

Tito, has to really look at the role of MDC for the rest of the season.he's garbage.....he has a 97mph fastball he is afraid to throw..

A Conformer said...

Seriously... Arod at the plate, bases loaded, less than two outs, important game, and I wasn't even worried.

SoSock said...

Wait, I should have had at least 3 fucks in there, right?
FUCK YOU K-ROD. FUCK, FUCK!

That more like it? :)

allan said...

CHOCOLATE RAIN!!!!!!!

laura k said...

Why couldn't god tell the guy who hit me to pay fucking attention to driving.

Exactly. It's so stupid.

People are so uncomfortable with the idea of luck and random chance. The eyeblink of chance between life and death is very scary!

(You'll pardon me, I've been spending so much time talking to quadriplegics and paraplegics, all random chance stuff.)

A Conformer said...

Yeah, I don't get that at all either -- where was god before the damn crash??

Helloooo? He has a plan. Jeez.


He also works in mysterious ways.

Amy said...

For the record, I don't believe in that kind of God---the kind who supposedly sits in heaven, deciding who lives and dies, what team wins or loses. But I guess lots of people do. So be it...if it gets them through the night.

Jere said...

Remember, in the home park, those boos are like boos.

allan said...

BLOOD is right.
Makes the 5-3 and HUGE booooooooooooos.

laura k said...

Geez, every time he touches the ball they are booing him.

It's amazing for someone who used to be the golden boy of baseball, long ago.

Amy said...

Papi nice!

Benjamin said...

the kind who supposedly sits in heaven, deciding who lives and dies, what team wins or loses.

Papi prayed for the right thing on Yom Kippur. That's why he got a double.

9casey said...

Jere said...
"He has a plan."

So he's pro-family planning?



He may be but some people don't think so....My God told me to to have a little procedure.Who wants anymore little minatures of me running around...

laura k said...

So he's pro-family planning?

Of course she is!

Rob said...

People are so uncomfortable with the idea of luck and random chance. The eyeblink of chance between life and death is very scary!

There are over six BILLION people on this earth... There are bound to be a coincedence or two along the way.

A Conformer said...

Papi completing his dong.

Benjamin said...

MLB.com updates its game caption to "Red Sox in complete control against Yankees".

Jere said...

"So be it...if it gets them through the night."

I still say they'd be better off if they took some damn responsibility for their lives. And quit drivin so slow in front of me!

Anyway, I like how the crowd really thought there was gonna be a play at second, but it wasn't even close.

9casey said...

L-girl said...
Geez, every time he touches the ball they are booing him.

It's amazing for someone who used to be the golden boy of baseball, long ago.


In Seattle and Texas....not on this stage..

allan said...

come on bay -- send 20,000 people home early!

JCal76 said...

YES doing the 2004 ALCS game 7 crowd shots of defeated MFY fans. Makes me feel warm and fuzzy/

Jere said...

L & A: Was the Seinfeld "vasectomy" episode after your time? I think it probably was...

laura k said...

There are over six BILLION people on this earth... There are bound to be a coincedence or two along the way.

Ha, I like that.

9casey said...

Youk=Respect

Amy said...

HAHAHA! Love that!

laura k said...

ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!

that was fun

Benjamin said...

Suck it, Edwar.

Jere said...

oh my i love this. A-Rod's ready to hide.

allan said...

yep - things oughta be pretty fricking ugly at duh toilet by thursday!

SoSock said...

I've blogged on my site before about the whole "thank god for making this wonderful moment happen" thing.
As I've said - it goes both ways. I'm all for thanking him for making great stuff POSSIBLE, but that also means by "rule" he made not-so-great stuff possible. If you think he loves you more than the next guy, or the other team, or his other creations, or whatever, well that seem arrogant to me.
Then again.......I could be tripping :)

Rob said...

A-Rod's true defensive capability seems to come alive when Boston comes to town.

laura k said...

Jere, my time re Seinfeld ends w/ Susan's death. I watched some after that, but it never stuck. Vasectomy does not ring a bell.

A Conformer said...

Man, I'm waiting for tomorrow's schadenfreude SO much.

Benjamin said...

YES: "Sometimes you're just tired or not as strong, and that's why you get that tailing throw to first."

A-not-as-strong-Rod.

Amy said...

I am glad Harvey isn't here. (He went to NY to take care of some stuff with his mom and is on his way home.) This is the kind of game that he and I would not be able to watch in the same room together.

Much more fun to watch with you guys.

Jere said...

ok, I won't make any refs to that episode then...

A-Rod is a true Mariner.

laura k said...

In Seattle and Texas....not on this stage..

Not even in Texas. He was already hated then, post-contract.

I mean when he was totally loved.

Benjamin said...

Oh well.

allan said...

when the sox leave the bases loaded in the 8th against nyy and it's not so big a deal -- life is good.

laura k said...

A-not-as-strong-Rod.

A-rod < a rod

Benjamin said...

A-Rod would make a decent LAAAAAngel.

A Conformer said...

I still say they'd be better off if they took some damn responsibility for their lives. And quit drivin so slow in front of me!

Wait, religious people drive slow here? In Israel, a lot of the orthodox jews drive really fast, and cross the street wherever and whenever they want, because "god will protect them".
Oooh, stereotypes galore.

SoSock said...

All right, Cat's obviously feeling left out. I'm heading to join her.
If she's not using the laptop, I'll be back. Otherwise, hold on gentlemen, hold on!

Benjamin said...

I have to ask, because I'm rude: when Allan says "my wife and I were in the RF bleachers and I got up to get beers", is that an ex-wife?

Jere said...

Sox "on verge" of getting Kotsay.

laura k said...

Wait, religious people drive slow here? In Israel, a lot of the orthodox jews drive really fast, and cross the street wherever and whenever they want, because "god will protect them".

I grew up with that stereotype too! We lived near a huge Hasidic community (which has since "taken over" - lots of bigotry against them, esp from Jews), and that was the stereotype. "Where do they buy their licences?"

JCal76 said...

Anyone seen the Verizon FIOS commercial with the Verizon guy connecting people and the red headed cable guy disconnecting people? Is that Wade Boggs' twin or what?

Amy said...

That's interesting re Seinfeld. Susan's death was a turning point for me. I just found that plot line too cruel. I kept watching, but I was soured on George and on the show. I still like some of the earliest episodes best, like the visits to FL to see Jerry's parents. But I am just not too good with the dark stuff.

Rob said...

A lot of people seem to just be afraid of the notion that they'd have a large amount of control in their lives. There are things that just happen, out of your control, but for most things in life, you have a choice, you have the power to choose.

Benjamin said...

CWS wins 8-3.

Rob said...

Fuck no.

laura k said...

No, Phil, that's me. :)

We use the terms interchangeably. Somtimes partner, sometimes husband/wife.

Amy said...

Oh, damn. Let's not do this.

Benjamin said...

Justin being MDC.

laura k said...

Amy, I just thought the show completely stopped being funny. It changed from character-driven, smart humour to IMO zany gags and tag lines.

allan said...

shemp now has kashmir blastin'.
i wonder if he drives a camaro.

9casey said...

I'm suprised no Jeemer here...

Jere said...

My "slow driving" comment just meant I let them piss me off more than I should. I could've said they drive too fast, too slow, either way, that wasn't the point.

Benjamin said...

Wells dong. 6-2 dong.

Nice little run he's having.

Benjamin said...

6-2 TOR, I mean.

9casey said...

Tito, my friend ..ugh.....haven't you been here all season?

A Conformer said...

A lot of people seem to just be afraid of the notion that they'd have a large amount of control in their lives. There are things that just happen, out of your control, but for most things in life, you have a choice, you have the power to choose.

That's how fascism succeeds. Well, that and state commissioned terror.

allan said...

now i'm hearing "hells bells" -- wtf???

Amy said...

Well, the characters really became little more than caricatures after that, so perhaps we reacted for different reasons, but to the same things (if that makes any sense). I found the characters less and less likeable and thus less amusing and entertaining. By the end, I thought they were all pretty despicable people.

laura k said...

A lot of people seem to just be afraid of the notion that they'd have a large amount of control in their lives. There are things that just happen, out of your control, but for most things in life, you have a choice, you have the power to choose.

You're right. And at the same time, they want to believe something - someone, something out there - does have control.

One of my least favourite platitudes in the world is "everything happens for a reason". I always want to scream "no it doesn't, it just happens, then we have to deal with it!!!!".

A Conformer said...

First time I hear the LBJ Voulvou ad. He sounds so smooth.

Rob said...

JEEMER! JEEMER! JEEMER! JEEMER!

A Conformer said...

Now I'm worried. I hate fucking Matsui.

Benjamin said...

If you can't believe things happen because you were born to the right ancestors, then what can you believe?

Amy said...

I suddenly felt my pulse get faster. Hating seeing Jeemer in with people on base. Heart starting to pound.

Rob said...

Triple play, plz. Someone win a truck please. Some contest. I want three outs. They can have the truck.

Rob said...

Feels like the opposite of that 4.20.07 game - green shirts game, last year at fenway.

But it also doesn't.

laura k said...

Amy, yes, I agree. And it lost the feleing of real friendship among them, which is part of what made the show so great. You felt a warmth and caring between them, that they completley did away with towards the end.

And I never watched the last two seasons at all. When I see one in reruns now, I cannot believe how awful it is. I can't even sit through 5 mins.

Rob said...

6-2 JAYS!

Jere said...

make it Truck Day, Shemp

laura k said...

Ofer, one day that smooth voice is going to send me right out to the Volvo dealership. He sounds almost as good as he looks.

OK, I exaggerate.

Amy said...

I think Larry David is one very cynical guy and that he did more and more of the writing in the later seasons. It didn't sound like Jerry Seinfeld, whose comedy was never really that dark.

laura k said...

If you can't believe things happen because you were born to the right ancestors, then what can you believe?

That we will get out of this inning without the Yankees scoring another run.

Benjamin said...

Sit, Shemp.

Jere said...

"I think Larry David is one very cynical guy and that he did more and more of the writing in the later seasons. "
uh.....

Amy said...

YES!

laura k said...

Amy, it's exactly the opposite. Larry pulled out of the show, then it tanked.

allan said...

I think Larry David is one very cynical guy and that he did more and more of the writing in the later seasons. It didn't sound like Jerry Seinfeld, whose comedy was never really that dark.

It was just the opposite. David left and Jerry had full control of the last season. Larry returned to write the finale.

Rob said...

No soup for you, Shemp.

laura k said...

I don't think Seinfeld was ever dark. I think it became increasingly superficial - not the subject matter, the depth of the comedy.

Amy said...

Really? Live and learn. Shows how much attention I was paying at the end!

Once again, I reveal my ignorance. It's amazing I have any ego left after participating here for a year!

allan said...

also larry wrote or co-wrote most of the first 5 years or so. after that, they were farmed out.

Rob said...

Castig: "Bullpen trying to piece this one together..."

11-0 or an injury is when the bullpen pieces things together. This is the bullpen's stomping grounds. This is their game.

Jere said...

But Larry David's comedy lives on in Curb Your Enthusiasm. I love that show. A lot.

A Conformer said...

Is Snuffer warmed up?

Amy said...

This sort of reminds me of how they tell you to focus on something else when in pain. If we talk about God and Seinfeld, we won't be as anxious about the game.

Rob said...

Blue Jays win!

Jere said...

the rays have lost

Benjamin said...

Byrd looks better fed than his press photos.

laura k said...

Larry's a comic genius.

Benjamin said...

Sit, Cano.

Rob said...

I have a hard time organizing Seinfeld into seasons, because I watched reruns. Hard to remember the new episodes, although I watched a few. I was young.

laura k said...

Btw, I'm not even nervous. All is cool.

Jere said...

SIt down, loser Yankee fans.

allan said...

sit down, chumps!!!!!!!!!!!

Benjamin said...

Paps in.

laura k said...

Thank you Blue Jays!!

Amy said...

OK, part 1 of my wish is true. Rays lose. Now we are four outs away from parts 2 and 3.

I apologize deeply to Larry David and his fans. :)

laura k said...

Ish, if you are ever interested, you might want to rent seasons 3, 4 and 5. It's quite incredible to see them in order.

Rob said...

SNUFFIN' TIME.

First appearance for Bot since the All-Star game.

Castig kept it from going to commercial to hear the reaction of Bot coming in... Very little reaction, so they went to commercial.

Tony said...

Do it, Bot!

Benjamin said...

First appearance for Bot since the All-Star game.

Against the MFYs you mean?

A Conformer said...

Apparently he is. I actually don't know if I like this move. I mean, it sounds like Okaji was pitching well, it's a 4-run lead, and tomorrow's game might be closer. Why not let him try to get one more out?

Rob said...

Ish, if you are ever interested, you might want to rent seasons 3, 4 and 5. It's quite incredible to see them in order.

I'm thinking I will. I've seen most, if not all of the episodes... Spent years watching the reruns at 7 PM during the week on school nights.

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