August 17, 2008

G124: Blue Jays 15, Red Sox 4

Blue Jays - 602 111 130 - 15 22  1
Red Sox - 000 101 101 - 4 10 1
Beckett lasted 2.1 innings, Tito used seven pitchers, and the Blue Jays collected 10 doubles in the game -- for the first time in their history.

***

Shaun Marcum (3.42, 123 ERA+) / Josh Beckett (3.92, 114 ERA+)

NESN sez:
Ellsbury, CF
Pedroia, 2B
Ortiz, DH
Youkilis, 1B
Drew, RF
Bay, LF
Lowrie, 3B
Cora, SS
Varitek, C
Also: Royals/Yankees at 1 PM and Rays/Rangers at 8 PM

178 comments:

redsock said...

Jere links to Girardi saying he's never seen Rivera throw a wild pitch -- yet it turns out that Fruitbat threw 3 of them with Girardi AS HIS CATCHER!!!

nixon33 said...

good to have you back, allan.
hope yr hanging in there.

redsock said...

Glad to be back! Thanks for everyone's well wishes. It sucks driving 17 hours or so over two days, but I'm really glad I made the trip.

Cool avatar! L told me to look out for it. He looks scarier when you look at the smaller version in the thread.

Joe Grav said...

good afternoon friends

L, I just got your email - will respond shortly :)

L-girl said...

It sucks driving 17 hours or so over two days, but I'm really glad I made the trip.

Plus you didn't miss any games! Rainout Fri, then radio while driving home on Sat.

L-girl said...

Joe, no rush. We have all week to work it out.

L-girl said...

Joe will be the 2nd gamethreader to visit Chez L-Sock. And the 3rd JoS reader we've met. (Not counting old friends.)

redsock said...

By the way, yesterday was Babe and Elvis Death Day.

L-girl said...

Happy Birthday FY!

L-girl said...

Oh yeah, I forgot about Death Day. I once had a supervisor who was an insane Elvis fanatic, and Death Day was her birthday.

She was also an insane racist, but that's another story.

redsock said...

KCR - 3
NYY - 4

NY still batting in the 1st!

redsock said...

stuck with radio today -- mlbtv is blacked out. assholes.

radio is WAY behind GDGD!

L-girl said...

radio is WAY behind GDGD!

Yup. When you have MLB Audio, you have to be careful not to refresh the thread too often, and ignore GDGD completely.

redsock said...

i see castig has absolutely no clue what "moneyball" means.

...

eff rios.

L-girl said...

Pee Wee turns 25 today.

L-girl said...

i see castig has absolutely no clue what "moneyball" means.

It's a popular club.

redsock said...

it's a crowded club for sure.

redsock said...

dear josh:

these are fucking blue jays! dispose of them accordingly.

thank you.

nixon33 said...

fucking beckett.

redsock said...

WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK, YOU FUCKER?

jesus shit.

nixon33 said...

WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH BECKETT TODAY? (this year???)

redsock said...

NY 6, KC 3 (end of 1st)

:>0

Zenslinger said...

Times like this you wonder why Hank wants Joba to be their Josh Beckett!

6-3 after one inning at the Toilet and the Royals start off with two straight base hits vs. Mussina in the second.

L-girl said...

WHAT IS GOING ON????

nixon33 said...

jesus fucking christ. im feeling REALLY FUCKING NEGATIVE RIGHT NOW. motherfuckers. in the first inning, jesus fucking christ.

nixon33 said...

thanks for the quality start that we needed today, josh.

redsock said...

masterson warming.

redsock said...

aaaaaardsma, not masterson.

castig was wrong

redsock said...

good work, josh. john mcdonald doubled off you. he's a regular rogers hornsby, too. jeez.

nixon33 said...

well, here's to hoping the rays lose tonight. this day sucks so far.

redsock said...

McDonald has a 46 OPS+
.209/.264/.282

redsock said...

if we could "be like the yankees" and double their runs in the bottom of the 1st, that would be neat.

Zenslinger said...

10-run first inning, anyone?

L-girl said...

castig said aardsma

nixon33 said...

giambi grand slam. 10-3 yanks.

redsock said...

damn the yankees and their magic shirts and pants.

nixon33 said...

zenslinger said...
10-run first inning, anyone?


uh, 0 run inning anyone?

Zenslinger said...

zenslinger said...
10-run first inning, anyone?

uh, 0 run inning anyone?


At least it ended in a zero.

I am not too upset about this game. Then again, I am sober.

I did speculate during that horrific 19-17 game that although we would make the playoffs, I wasn't sure I could see us going to the Series this year. It always takes a certain amount of luck, but with this pitching staff...I dunno.

But, things change. Maybe everything will just start hitting on all cylinders in late September. And it's not like we've played badly overall.

nixon33 said...

PLEASE. SCORE. AT. LEAST. ONE. RUN. PLEASE!

nixon33 said...

YAY!

L-girl said...

Our pitching is certainly not championship caliber. But anything can happen in the playoffs. All we have to do is get there.

nixon33 said...

I HATE TODAYS GAME . THIS FUCKING SUCKS

L-girl said...

Look at Nix's avatar with his last comments. It's perfect.

redsock said...

not our day

L-girl said...

be a helluva comeback, tho

nixon33 said...

is beckett hurt or something?

L-girl said...

Just to remind you, we gave up a 10 run lead twice this week. It happens.

I'm not saying it's going to happen today, but it's early goings.

nixon33 said...

i hope our offense wakes up. someone needs to remind them, marcum isnt halladay.

nixon33 said...

l-girl said...
be a helluva comeback, tho


"The DIck Williams Day Miracle"

nixon33 said...

Twins 5-0 over the mariners so far.

nixon33 said...

since we're getting are assess handed to us, i had a question.

im FINALLY going to break down and buy the 2004 collectors edition box set. are the dvds of the yanks ALCS, the COMPLETE games or just highlights from each game?
is there also a bonus dvd of some sort?
anyone know?

redsock said...

im FINALLY going to break down and buy the 2004 collectors edition box set. are the dvds of the yanks ALCS, the COMPLETE games or just highlights from each game?
is there also a bonus dvd of some sort?
anyone know?


It's 12 complete games!. There is a bonus DVD, but I cannot recall what is on it, exept for a segment on O-Cab's handshakes. Probably locker room craziness too.

I can check it out when I get home, if you like.

L-girl said...

omg this game sucks

nixon33 said...

hey thanks redsock! you answered my question. i just wanted to make sure they didnt fuck you on the dvds with only highlights from each game.
perfect. they are like $50 on ebay, sealed. pretty good deal. i was listening to some old interviews after that series, and i heard a tiny snippet of tore saying "if nixon doesnt catch that ball, we win the series". i cant remember what friggin catch he's talking about. can anyone remind me?

redsock said...

damn - timlin in the 4th!

Jennifer said...

Hi all. I'm home watching the game-missed the ugliness of the first inning, but geez.

Not gonna spend much time on the computer, but hi all. Welcome back and condolences, allan.

nick said...

whoops! did it again. while I am not jennifer I am jennifer.

L-girl said...

I was wracking my brains, trying to remember who Jennifer was. Thought it might be our troll! But no, only Nick in drag.

redsock said...

in march 2005, i rewatched the entire post-season and wrote about each game (well, i skipped ALCS 1-2-3, to be completely honest).

nixon33 said...

Drew out with lower back pain
awesome

nick said...

my favorite kind of troll--very subtle! kinda like the red sox strategy in this game.

redsock said...

looks like i pointed out a lot of moronic espn comments in the alds!

berman
sut
gwynn

yikes.

nick said...

PowerYouk with the RallyKiller(tm).

L-girl said...

my favorite kind of troll--very subtle!

Honestly, he often starts out that way. This is a troll who posed as an admiring female reader for weeks before revealing himself. (I.e. he's insane.)

Yoooooook begins the comeback!

redsock said...

Chris Berman is an utter idiot.

ALDS 1
During Game 1, Berman noted that Bellhorn had set a new Red Sox single-season record for strikeouts, breaking Butch Hobson's old record, which had been set (he said) "in the mid-80s." ... Actually, Hobson set the record (162 K) in 1977. And his last major league game was on August 3, 1982, as a member of the Yankees. ...

ALDS 2
Berman repeated the Hobson "mid-80s" "factoid" during Game 2.

ALDS 3
Re Bellhorn: Chris Berman again mentions Bellhorn breaking the Sox season strikeout record and says Butch Hobson set the record "in 1985". As I pointed out in an earlier post, Hobson's last major league game was in 1982 (his last game for the Red Sox was in 1980.) This is clearly the most important tidbit ESPN has on Bellhorn, so it's amazing that Berman gets it so wrong every single time. ... Berman also butchers the nickname Johnny Damon has given the team. They are known far and wide as "The Idiots," but Berman consistently refers to them as either "The Happy Idiots" or "The Traveling Idiots.")

nick said...

I heard part of a report on the radio the other day about a woman who was somehow related to the NRA working as a mole in some anti-gun-violence groups. she volunteered for years, organized campaigns, joined the board and more. wish I'd heard more.

nixon33 said...

ahhh, game 5, 6th inning, 3rd out.
nice analysis!

redsock said...

i was wrong. i skipped only game 3.

L-girl said...

I heard part of a report on the radio the other day about a woman who was somehow related to the NRA working as a mole in some anti-gun-violence groups. she volunteered for years, organized campaigns, joined the board and more.

Did she train with the FBI?

L-girl said...

Did someone say Red Sox-Cubs WS? Yes, please! Free publicity.

redsock said...

ALCS 4
"Bottom of the 2nd: The first Dave Roberts sighting of the night -– in the dugout as Millar bats. Dave, you have no idea how much your life is going to change in about three hours."

"Top of the 7th: ... At this point, Buck says that Fenway is "deathly quiet," even though a "Let's go Red Sox!" chant can be easily heard behind him."

I hate Fox.

nick said...

wish I knew. that was all I heard. I think it was an interview with the author of a book, but I don't know any more than that. I haven't contacted the station for more info yet.

nick said...

can you still be a self-described player and have high standards?

redsock said...

Damn - when Roberts came out to PR, he had not played in a game in 10 days!!!

(I like reading my recaps.)

...

Is today's game still going on?

nick said...

have you ever had phish food?
no.

nixon33 said...

haha, fucking fox. what a bunch of assholes.
hey allan, make sure you download the audio i posted in yesterdays game thread. good keepsakes. to hear francesa eat his words "one day there will be a team to come back from a 3-0 deficit, not on this day"

nixon33 said...

HEY! LETS GET SOME RUNS!

redsock said...

I'm pretty sure I have all the audio that exists.

nick said...

bases clogged!

redsock said...

EINFUCKINGSTEIN!!!!!!!!!!

redsock said...

get all excited and then o'brien says

"...and here comes varitek"

(deflate)

L-girl said...

Nick, what are you talking about?

nixon33 said...

i hope the level of sucktitude isnt at max right now for varisuck

L-girl said...

TIME FOR A RALLY KILLER

nixon33 said...

well thanks for that, "captain".

L-girl said...

thanks tek

redsock said...

i want to divorce the capt too.

nixon33 said...

i think tek just reached thru my tv and punched me in the balls

nick said...

I don't care what the stats say, Varitek hits into more DP than anyone (other than A-Rod).

nixon33 said...

woah! what kinds of audio do you have???????

L-girl said...

I don't care what the stats say

Just quoting for emphasis.

redsock said...

i also have a clip of mike and mad dog the day after game 7.

mad dog's opening is so completely over the top!!!!!!!!!!!!

nick said...

l-girl. wish I knew. mostly just paraphrasing the small talk between remmy and don.

nixon33 said...

i was listening to that last night!
"trot nixon is wade boggs in reverse!"

L-girl said...

mostly just paraphrasing the small talk between remmy and don.

Makes more sense now. I have MLB audio on weekends.

ish said...

HH warming.

Scheduled for Wednesday in Baltimore.

Hey everyone.

nick said...

they let varitek hit, then pull him out of the game? and still they leave timlin in.

redsock said...

up the minute totals

pedroia - 14
lowell - 13
lugo - 13
manny - 12
tek - 11
drew - 10
ortiz - 10

slappy has 10
(jeter 19, cano 17, abreu 11, milk dud 10)

redsock said...

woah! what kinds of audio do you have???????

is this for me?

... i got it all, baby!

nick said...

so, are you saying that I'm wrong on every point?

just repeating for emphasis:
don't care what the stats say.

humph.

ish said...

I just wish the audio was better organized. Separated into tracks for innings, etc.

ish said...

Although I could probably separate the innings myself.

L-girl said...

they let varitek hit, then pull him out of the game?

You know, I was typing that. Then I realized Cash goes in for Tek, and I realized it doesn't matter.

nixon33 said...

redsock, we need to do some trading (though i dont know that i have anything you want!)

redsock said...

so, are you saying that I'm wrong on every point?

yes.
you have never been right about anything in your life.
sorry.
facts is facts.

L-girl said...

so, are you saying that I'm wrong on every point?

nope

ish said...

11-3 Yankees are beating up KC now in the 7th... Even the Orioles are hitting. 13-5 O's in Detroit.

nick said...

Facts are simple and facts are straight
Facts are lazy and facts are late
Facts all come with points of view
Facts dont do what I want them to
Facts just twist the truth around
Facts are living turned inside out
Facts are getting the best of them
Facts are nothing on the face of things
Facts don't stain the furniture
Facts go out and slam the door
Facts are written all over your face
Facts continue to change their shape

redsock said...

buffyvision must be going totally ga-ga over rios today.

nixon33 said...

I just wish the audio was better organized. Separated into tracks for innings, etc.

BOO HOO>

i didnt make the audio, just passing it along. glad to see people are thankful!
;P

redsock said...

... stillllllll waiting ...

L-girl said...

today and every day

nick, did you do that from memory or look up the lyrics?

L-girl said...

just don't say your audio gives me a headache!

nick said...

I have it about 1/2 memorized. easier and fast to do a quick google cut and paste.

...still waiting..

nick said...

btw, david byrne and brian eno have a new album coming out and are going on tour. they'll be playing music from their various work together over the years. cool! I plan on seeing 'em in Albany.

nixon33 said...

Woah, The LIzard King

redsock said...

Speaking of HH, this nomaas pic is pretty funny.

nixon33 said...

that clay pic is HIGH-larious!

redsock said...

I have a boot of outtakes from Bush of Ghosts. Maybe I'll put that up on the next off-day.

L-girl said...

Any of those links work-friendly?

nixon33 said...

yes both work friendly

nick said...

cool. I'd like to hear 'em. I bought the record in high school and really dug it. been meaning to pull it out for a while.

much better than this game.

L-girl said...

I should know better than to click on links.

I love that album too. I don't know how Byrne and Eno would be live, now.

nixon33 said...

i saw david byrne walking down ludlow last year. crazy white hair now!

L-girl said...

nix, cool. yeah, he's got that snow white hair. i saw him in nyc too. lives in soho.

nixon33 said...

at this rate with out pitching staff, i have NO idea who i am going to see pitch for us in the bronx on 8/27.
i really hope its not HH, or byrd.

nixon33 said...

OUR pitching staff, rather.

redsock said...

4 doubles for Rios?!?!

nixon33 said...

wow, toronto isn't fucking around about finishing 3rd.

redsock said...

wow, toronto isn't fucking around about finishing 3rd.

neither are we, it seems.

kkh said...

at this rate with out pitching staff...

I dunno, nix, I think you got it right the first time (sigh).

redsock said...

BIRTHDAY DONG!!!!!!!!!!!!

Joe Grav said...

lol i love how the crowd goe relatively crazy, for a HR to make it 12-3

ahh boston <3

L-girl said...

it's getting a little late for the Dick Williams Day Miracle

TM

L-girl said...

wow, toronto isn't fucking around about finishing 3rd.

neither are we, it seems.


damn, i was about to say that

redsock said...

came in 84, went out 104

redsock said...

i can't help but note that the jays failed to score in the 2nd.

redsock said...

damn, i was about to say that

i thought you might fault me for indulging in woe-is-us-ism.

nixon33 said...

well, to go even further, re: 3rd place,
we will be 5 games up from the yanks in the WC after today.
far from over.

L-girl said...

no reason we can't win the wild card. all we have to do is stop pitching like shit.

see? easy!

L-girl said...

i thought you might fault me for indulging in woe-is-us-ism.

just a little gallows humour, i thought.

redsock said...

shit - more runs..........

nixon33 said...

let cora pitch!

Joe Grav said...

I do believe Toronto has scored after every half inning we scored, just to rub salt in the wound

redsock said...

Give FY the 9th - it's his birthday!!

Joe Grav said...

Put in Pap! We're coming back!

redsock said...

freakin' rios.
maybe buffy is right. maybe he is the greatest person to ever exist.

L-girl said...

I have work, so I can mercifully leave this game w/o guilt. See ya tomw.

redsock said...

Rios is the 3rd Blue Jay to get 4 doubles in a game.

Shannon Stewart, July 18, 2000 vs Mets
Damaso Garcia, June 27, 1986 vs Yankees

No Toronto player has hit 5.

Thanks BR!

nixon33 said...

well at least the MFY get Halladay and Burnett in the next series, and we "SHOULD" at least take 2 of 3 from the O's.

redsock said...

First time in Toronto history the team has 10 doubles in one game.

Joe Grav said...

'and we "SHOULD" at least take 2 of 3 from the O's.'

just like we should have taken two from T-O.

nixon33 said...

joe grav, toronto is always tougher on us, or at least it seems that way.

nixon33 said...

i love the fact that coco gets on.... NOW!
what an asshole.

redsock said...

BOT!

redsock said...

can bot be the only one of our 7 pitchers today to not allow a run?

Amy said...

Just got in. Turned on the TV. Saw Bot. Said, Oh, good. Then saw score. Said profanity.

Amy said...

Welcome back, Allan. I hope the memorial service went well.

redsock said...

It was nice. Thanks.

ish said...

The water is clean, but we'll get over this one quickly.

nixon33 said...

what is with texas playing late on sunday?
i thought that ESPN had rights to sunday night, and they are showing Phils vd Pads... weird.

9casey said...

Rs, nice to have you back , hope all is cool....Business is slow around here when the innkeeper is gone...

9casey said...

nixon33 said...
joe grav, toronto is always tougher on us, or at least it seems that way.



Last September , I was on vacataion, and the blue jays swept us up there, the season was on a tailspin, they(sox) lost 4 in a row, then went 6-3 to finish the season....

redsock said...

Last September , I was on vacataion, and the blue jays swept us up there

We were at all three games. It was brutal. Just fucking brutal.

L-girl said...

Last September , I was on vacataion, and the blue jays swept us up there, the season was on a tailspin, they(sox) lost 4 in a row, then went 6-3 to finish the season....

Allan and I were at those games. It was brutal.

All the gloom-and-doomers were out in full force. We were getting in arguments with people on the thread who were jumping ship. I recall one guy in particular, he said he was through with the whole season - AND WE WERE STILL IN 1ST PLACE.

Last year we were in first place from mid-April until the end. Every single day.

[9C, I replied to your music comment in the other thread.]

L-girl said...

Did Allan and I just use the exact same words to describe that series?

redsock said...

Well, they WERE brutal.

In one of the games, Tito left Gagne in to roast. And there was that shithead sitting behind us- ARRGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!

L-girl said...

AAAAARRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH

SoSock said...

Yeesh
Glad I missed this one.
What the hell is up with Beckett?
We really need him back.......soon!

redsock said...

FKR - 004 300 0 - 7 10 0
TEX - 001 010 0 - 2 4 0

nixon33 said...

hello 4.5
FUCK

Amy said...

Having read through this thread, I have two comments: Does the intense nostalgia for 2004 reveal some doubts about the rest of this season?

And, Laura, I loved your "just don't say it gave you a headache" comment.

Looks like Tek got some well-deserved bashing here as well.

Sigh.

redsock said...

comments: Does the intense nostalgia for 2004 reveal some doubts about the rest of this season?

Nah, I think we were just bored.

ish said...

Half-game ahead in the wild card to Chicago/Minnesota. Brings up an interesting dilemma. If Minnesota pulls away by a couple games in the Central, do you root for the White Sox to win this weekend against Tampa Bay still?

Amy said...

I hate that you are talking about the WC like we have given up on the Division.

L-girl said...

I never get the "who to root for" dilemma. Root for whoever you want - it's not like it makes any difference in the outcome.

I've given up on the division. I'll be thrilled to be wrong, but I'll also be very happy to get the wild card.

L-girl said...

Does the intense nostalgia for 2004 reveal some doubts about the rest of this season?

I think it reveals our utter fascination and undying love for the Greatest Postseason Ever.

redsock said...

Amy: I hate that you are talking about the WC like we have given up on the Division.

I have not given up. No fucking way. With 6+ weeks left, WC is loser talk. Who the hell has given up?

L: I've given up on the division.

Oh. .........

I'll be thrilled to be wrong ...

Then thrilled you shall be.