Dice for seven and then Dimmer and Snuffer to nail it down. From a distance, that's how it looked, but upon closer inspection, it wasn't quite as smooth as it should have been.
Matsuzaka (7-6-2-2-10) allowed two solo home runs (while getting out of serious jams in the third and fourth innings) and left with a 4-2 lead. Gagne retired the first two Mariners in the eighth, but then allowed singles to Broussard (who stole second) and Lopez to bring Seattle to within one run. A double from Lopez put runners at second and third, but Betancourt tapped back to the mound.
Papelbon struck out Ichiro and Vidro to start the bottom of the ninth, but both walked Guillen (who was trying to avoid being the first Mariner in history to strike out five times in one game) and Ibanez. None of the pitches were all that wild; in fact, a few balls looked like they could/should have been strikes. But with the winning run at first, Beltre swung at the first pitch and fouled out to Varitek.
So Gagne and Bot faced 11 batters in two innings -- three hits, two walks, one run -- not textbook, but it's a win. Still 7 GA.
(23 strikeouts in the game, 13 by the Sox staff.)
***
Daisuke Matsuzaka (3.75, 120 ERA+) / Jarrod Washburn (4.11, 103 ERA+)
The Red Sox have lost their last nine games at Safeco Field. Their last win came on July 21, 2006. Coco Crisp vs Washburn: 10-for-18 (.556), five doubles, four RBI.
Afternoon finals:
Yankees 16, Royals 8
Toronto 9, Texas 5
126 comments:
Ok - your inane statistic today is :
From today's press pass - 5 IS THE MAGIC NUMBER: Each of Boston’s last 5 losses have come when scoring 4 runs or less…Boston is 2-9 in its last 11 games when scoring 4 or fewer runs (19-37 overall when scoring 4 or less)…By contrast, the Sox are 47-6 when scoring 5 runs or more this season, with wins in each of their last 9 such contests.
So what you're saying is our pitching needs run support of 5 or more in order to be effective?
How does that compare to any other team's records with more or less than 5 runs?
How does that compare to any other team's records with more or less than 5 runs?
Not sure, am looking at numbers now, but my gut says that the stats for other teams will be closer to their w /l percentage.
The press notes of different teams give different categories, so it's hard. Maybe s1c has a better source.
When Yankees score 4+: 56-23, .709
When Mets score 4+: 49-14, .777
When Sox score 3 or 4: 11-14
When Sox score 5+: 47-6
so
When Sox score 3+: 58-20, .744
Tigers
Score 5+: 49-10, .831
Score 0-4: 12-37
Angels
Score 4+: 52-15, .776
Score 0-3: 11-30
Dodgers
Score 4+: 49-19, .721
Score 0-3: 9-32
Devil Rays
Score 5+: 33-18, .647
Score 0-4: 8-49
Lineups:
Pedroia, 2B
Youkilis, 1B
Ortiz, DH
Ramirez, LF
Lowell, 3B
Varitek,C
Drew, RF
Crisp, CF
Lugo, SS
Suzuki, CF
Vidro, DH
Guillen, RF
Ibanez, LF
Beltre, 3B
Broussard, 1B
Johjima, C
Lopez, 2B
Betancourt, SS
So, looking at what Sock put up, it appears that maybe those stats aren't a whole better than other teams. So truly it is an inane stat, but not long ago the Sox were like 38 and 0 when scoring 5 or more.
That's like when someone says, for example, "Jim Rice has 25 home runs this season, 13 of those coming at home." Uh, and? If it's close to what it's supposed to be, just let it be and we'll assume that's the case.
About last night--yes, after the one inning, Timlin should've come out, but many people here seemed to act like he's just totally done, after one bad outing, after a full month of great ones. In that first inning he pitched last night, he hardly got hit at all. Granted, he made some non-pitching mistakes of his own...
As for tonight, I'd say we're due to win a game at Safeco.....
Tim, glad you're alive. I'm changing your nickname from Tim Armstrong to Tim's Not Dead.
What is it with MLBTV refusing to show NESN on weekends? I don't like it. Not one bit.
"Jim Rice has 25 home runs this season, 13 of those coming at home." Uh, and?
It means he has 12 on the road. 12!
That's like when someone says, for example, "Jim Rice has 25 home runs this season, 13 of those coming at home." Uh, and? If it's close to what it's supposed to be, just let it be and we'll assume that's the case.
That's what I was trying to imply.
I get frustrated hearing stats - or factoids, or coincidences - without any context. OK, so you've just told us a number. Is it a good number, a terrible number, or an average number? How can I know if I don't know how it compares to some other numbers?
Not picking on our venerable s1c here, of course.
Jere said...
About last night--yes, after the one inning, Timlin should've come out, but many people here seemed to act like he's just totally done, after one bad outing, after a full month of great ones.
Stand by your man, Jere ...I'm right there with ya...none of these Timlin haters were there to rip MDC's poor showing in his Tampa Bay outing.......
many people here seemed to act like he's just totally done, after one bad outing, after a full month of great ones
And someone here is conveniently forgetting the many months of bad outings before that one month of good outings.
We are acting like he is totally done because the evidence supports it. We're not giving up on the guy out of nowhere. We're seeing exactly what we always expect to see from him. The past month confounded those expectations, but now they are re-confirmed.
MDC is young and full of promise.
Timlin is old and full of...
I don't know what, I can't close the metaphor. He's just washed up, is all.
Holy Shit, a 12 pitch inning, at this pace he can go 14...on gamdeay it says he maxed out at 97.
Lotsa fastballs from Dice-K. Me likey.
Looks like Bonds hit 755.
I wanna see who ended up w/the 755 ball! Replays I've seen show a fight, but we never see who wins.
Bonds did his best to overshadow A-Rod.
Tiz on 2nd with 1 out. It would be nice to get him home.
Bonds up again.
Wow. Selig declines invitation to speak to ESPN anouncers! As said by our own Dave O'Brien. Wow.
Sorry about the two wows.
Bonds BB.
Bonds walks, but as Hershiser points out, he was swingin' for the fences, not letting up and waiting to get back to SF to break record.
Tek: hoping for HR. Let's say center field.
I'll take it!!!!
Manny will get no credit here.
MBM beats the throw!
Tek with 2 RBI. Wow.
And Manny is NOT thrown out at the plate!
Did Seattle network show Manny chugging all the way from first? Or are they saying he just was running for a pizza and happened to run along the basepaths?
I have FSN on mute, so I don't know, but they did show the slide from about 4 angles. I assume they are saying he missed the plate with his hand?
Though Drew was, for all intents and purposes.
Well NESN showed MBCarllewis. All the way around. They made no mention of a possibility of missing home.
Just saw footage of Slappy hitting 500. He stands stock still at the plate watching it, then takes a few little steps towards first. I wonder if Manny ever stood at the plate that long.
I'm writing about that right now, actually....
FSN NW gave Manny credit for running hard and making a good slide.
Good call sending Manny home with The Artist Formerly Known As JD Drew on deck and 2 out, I think.
Key DP!
Dice is doing his own Houdini impression tonight.
Not picking on our venerable s1c here, of course
from dictionary.com venerable - extremely old or obsolete; ancient
I said it was inane - but it did spark discussion?
Good two out hit by tek - now lets get some breathing space.
Dice has stayed out of the "bad inning." I want more runs, so we don't have to worry about that....
Nice. Freakin' nice.
Papi gets third, too.
Tina almost got thrown out on that one!
4-1! Ask and I shall proverbially R.
I like doubles.
A break for the Sox, lets add some more though!!
Guess I'll head home when this half inning ends. Should be able to catch the 8th and 9th.
What? No third for Manny? Remy says it's the right play? He's running toward the wall!! If he misses it and you're tagging, you still score!
Yeah, Dice! Awesome. 4-1 after 6.
Is Dice done with 99?
Under 100? He ain't done. Let's take him out ourselves by adding like six runs here, though.
Ryan Rowland-Smith in. Who's next, Billy Jim-Jensen?
(NY-area, 80s, reference. And yes, I know it was Roland Smith, but close enough.)
Oka up. Smart. Have him at the ready.
It might be time for OkaGagPap
I'd say its time.........
First we have to have this at bat for Japanese televison......
What's the point of having all that relief pitching?
San Francisco Red Sox Fan said...
What's the point of having all that relief pitching?
We have the same number as everybody else ares are just better....
Smart ass aside ..I agree...
It is amazing though after 111 pitches he is still hitting 97...
G'night Ms in 7th. We go 8th. Great job by Dice tonight.
He is a strange pitcher...10 ks 2 solo shots 2 bb's and 2 hb and he can go 84 with a breakin ball and 97 with a fastball......sit dead red...
JD Drew......His real name :David Jonathan Drew
shouldn't he be DJ Drew?
68 MPH on that pitch from EGads.
San Francisco Red Sox Fan said...
shouldn't he be DJ Drew?
Unless I'm the dyslexic one...
WWJDD if he was DJDrew?
RE: J.D. - wouldn't be surprised to find that is a family thing. I have a nephew that is called J.D. - David Johnathon - We call him J.D. to separate from his dad.
Gameday has him at 97???????
s1c said...
RE: J.D. - wouldn't be surprised to find that is a family thing. I have a nephew that is called J.D. - David Johnathon - We call him J.D. to separate from his dad.
Why not call him David?
That one was 94 on NESN
WWJDD if he was DJDrew?
if a wood chuck could chuck wood?
Damn, he's got that "Wakefield fastball" slowball. About as hard to hit as a knuckleball.
Gagne's got the accent on the E. And it's above the nameplate.
Jere said...
Gagne's got the accent on the E. And it's above the nameplate.
Damn Canucks
Enough of this bring in the Bot
his dads name is David!
So shouldn't the accent be on the second syllable?
Oh, and also....come on, GagnE, get out of this!
Someone shake Tito
Ooh, in Canada, they must not roll the ball to first. Interesting.
Thank God
Jere said...
Ooh, in Canada, they must not roll the ball to first. Interesting.
Why what did he do
Ooh, in Canada, they must not roll the ball to first. Interesting.
They don't in Montreal. They do in the rest of Canada.
Tito would have taken any other pitcher out in that situation.....Lets not handle this guy with kid gloves
"Why what did he do"
I don't know, but the ball traveled through the air, as if by magic. Canadian magic. I woulda just bowled it over there.
I assumed you called the father DJ and thats why you called him JD
I don't know. Third base.
Jere said...
"Why what did he do"
I don't know, but the ball traveled through the air, as if by magic. Canadian magic
Pissin my pants here..Canadian Magic!
How about a base hit, and 5-3, Youk?
No the dad is just david
Bot time!
If the dad's just David, there's no need to differentiate!
The DJ could stand for David, Jr.
Jere said...
The DJ could stand for David, Jr.
Yeah....But thye call him JD too...
Oh wait, the kid's JD. Forget it.
Jere said...
If the dad's just David, there's no need to differentiate!
Unless s1c is JD Drew's Uncle
This is a real Nancy Drew mystery. A DN.
brak, brak, JD.
Shit ..Its after one the kids and wife are all sleepin and I'm down here laughin like a 4 year old
The dad is David
The nephew is David Jonathon
We call the nephew JD so that we don't get them both answering when we call for david. I didn't say it made sense, that is just the way it is!
Is s1c's dad named Steve One Charles? And they call him s1 to differentiate, even though they're both s1? But dad goes by Steve?
Nice K, Pap.
Jere...........STOP......PLEASE
Ok. One more out and you norms can go to bed, and we owls can continue to stay up later than this as usual.
Pap hitting 90 is like Wakefield to these Ms. Oh, except these guys weren't up last inning.
Oh! That was a swing! And a strike! Ok, maybe not. Should've got the call oe way or the other...
s1c is for something else, my dad's name was charles though!
One more strike then I can finish my audit!
shite
First time in a while I did the stand and clap, only to have to sit again.
great, Jones pulls a Roberts and a single can tie it. But Pap will get this guy.
So we gotta sweat through a Gagne save AND a Pap save in the same game now??
Back to Back BBs. Come on, now.
did we really need this?
ok, that's what we needed. eck.
thank you baseball gods
Have to love an opposing batter who swings at the first pitch after two consecutive walks!!
My freaking blood pressure can calm down now!
yeah!!!!!!! I hope early bird Yankee fans stayed up for this one..... doubtful, as they're long asleep, dreaming of the distant past when they were champs.
Thank God....Later
Deities getting a lot of credit here, who are we, DJ Drew?
Good night. Maybe.
Let's hear it for Canada!!!
Hooray, Canada. Our sons' command was a little off tonight, but we'll take it. Okay, now g'night.
Does anyone know where I can watch last inning of tonight's game? (RS 4 M 3?) I have a full MLB TV account but can't seem to find the archive page anymore (God I hate MLB websites!)
Maria - if you go to the MLB.com scoreboard page, then click on the inning you want to watch, it should pop up.
s1c said...
Maria - if you go to the MLB.com scoreboard page, then click on the inning you want to watch, it should pop up.
I never knew that ...that is the best thing I 've seen all day....Thanks sic!!!!!!!!!!
'come
Not picking on our venerable s1c here, of course
from dictionary.com venerable - extremely old or obsolete; ancient
Oh shit, sorry about that! I meant wise and worthy. (PS, use a real dictionary!)
Wow, I missed a fun game thread last night, full of Canuckistan jokes and dyslexia. Damn west coast games (and work the next day). Brak brak and all that.
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