August 4, 2007

G110: Red Sox 4, Mariners 3

Dice for seven and then Dimmer and Snuffer to nail it down. From a distance, that's how it looked, but upon closer inspection, it wasn't quite as smooth as it should have been.

Matsuzaka (7-6-2-2-10) allowed two solo home runs (while getting out of serious jams in the third and fourth innings) and left with a 4-2 lead. Gagne retired the first two Mariners in the eighth, but then allowed singles to Broussard (who stole second) and Lopez to bring Seattle to within one run. A double from Lopez put runners at second and third, but Betancourt tapped back to the mound.

Papelbon struck out Ichiro and Vidro to start the bottom of the ninth, but both walked Guillen (who was trying to avoid being the first Mariner in history to strike out five times in one game) and Ibanez. None of the pitches were all that wild; in fact, a few balls looked like they could/should have been strikes. But with the winning run at first, Beltre swung at the first pitch and fouled out to Varitek.

So Gagne and Bot faced 11 batters in two innings -- three hits, two walks, one run -- not textbook, but it's a win. Still 7 GA.

(23 strikeouts in the game, 13 by the Sox staff.)

***

Daisuke Matsuzaka (3.75, 120 ERA+) / Jarrod Washburn (4.11, 103 ERA+)

The Red Sox have lost their last nine games at Safeco Field. Their last win came on July 21, 2006. Coco Crisp vs Washburn: 10-for-18 (.556), five doubles, four RBI.

Afternoon finals:
Yankees 16, Royals 8
Toronto 9, Texas 5

126 comments:

s1c said...

Ok - your inane statistic today is :
From today's press pass - 5 IS THE MAGIC NUMBER: Each of Boston’s last 5 losses have come when scoring 4 runs or less…Boston is 2-9 in its last 11 games when scoring 4 or fewer runs (19-37 overall when scoring 4 or less)…By contrast, the Sox are 47-6 when scoring 5 runs or more this season, with wins in each of their last 9 such contests.

L-girl said...

So what you're saying is our pitching needs run support of 5 or more in order to be effective?

How does that compare to any other team's records with more or less than 5 runs?

s1c said...

How does that compare to any other team's records with more or less than 5 runs?

Not sure, am looking at numbers now, but my gut says that the stats for other teams will be closer to their w /l percentage.

redsock said...

The press notes of different teams give different categories, so it's hard. Maybe s1c has a better source.

When Yankees score 4+: 56-23, .709
When Mets score 4+: 49-14, .777

redsock said...

When Sox score 3 or 4: 11-14
When Sox score 5+: 47-6

so

When Sox score 3+: 58-20, .744

redsock said...

Tigers
Score 5+: 49-10, .831
Score 0-4: 12-37

Angels
Score 4+: 52-15, .776
Score 0-3: 11-30

Dodgers
Score 4+: 49-19, .721
Score 0-3: 9-32

Devil Rays
Score 5+: 33-18, .647
Score 0-4: 8-49

redsock said...

Lineups:

Pedroia, 2B
Youkilis, 1B
Ortiz, DH
Ramirez, LF
Lowell, 3B
Varitek,C
Drew, RF
Crisp, CF
Lugo, SS

Suzuki, CF
Vidro, DH
Guillen, RF
Ibanez, LF
Beltre, 3B
Broussard, 1B
Johjima, C
Lopez, 2B
Betancourt, SS

s1c said...

So, looking at what Sock put up, it appears that maybe those stats aren't a whole better than other teams. So truly it is an inane stat, but not long ago the Sox were like 38 and 0 when scoring 5 or more.

Jere said...

That's like when someone says, for example, "Jim Rice has 25 home runs this season, 13 of those coming at home." Uh, and? If it's close to what it's supposed to be, just let it be and we'll assume that's the case.

About last night--yes, after the one inning, Timlin should've come out, but many people here seemed to act like he's just totally done, after one bad outing, after a full month of great ones. In that first inning he pitched last night, he hardly got hit at all. Granted, he made some non-pitching mistakes of his own...

As for tonight, I'd say we're due to win a game at Safeco.....

Tim, glad you're alive. I'm changing your nickname from Tim Armstrong to Tim's Not Dead.

redsock said...

What is it with MLBTV refusing to show NESN on weekends? I don't like it. Not one bit.

redsock said...

"Jim Rice has 25 home runs this season, 13 of those coming at home." Uh, and?

It means he has 12 on the road. 12!

L-girl said...

That's like when someone says, for example, "Jim Rice has 25 home runs this season, 13 of those coming at home." Uh, and? If it's close to what it's supposed to be, just let it be and we'll assume that's the case.

That's what I was trying to imply.

I get frustrated hearing stats - or factoids, or coincidences - without any context. OK, so you've just told us a number. Is it a good number, a terrible number, or an average number? How can I know if I don't know how it compares to some other numbers?

Not picking on our venerable s1c here, of course.

9casey said...

Jere said...

About last night--yes, after the one inning, Timlin should've come out, but many people here seemed to act like he's just totally done, after one bad outing, after a full month of great ones.


Stand by your man, Jere ...I'm right there with ya...none of these Timlin haters were there to rip MDC's poor showing in his Tampa Bay outing.......

L-girl said...

many people here seemed to act like he's just totally done, after one bad outing, after a full month of great ones

And someone here is conveniently forgetting the many months of bad outings before that one month of good outings.

We are acting like he is totally done because the evidence supports it. We're not giving up on the guy out of nowhere. We're seeing exactly what we always expect to see from him. The past month confounded those expectations, but now they are re-confirmed.

L-girl said...

MDC is young and full of promise.

Timlin is old and full of...

I don't know what, I can't close the metaphor. He's just washed up, is all.

9casey said...

Holy Shit, a 12 pitch inning, at this pace he can go 14...on gamdeay it says he maxed out at 97.

Edward Lee said...

Lotsa fastballs from Dice-K. Me likey.

redsock said...

Looks like Bonds hit 755.

Jere said...

I wanna see who ended up w/the 755 ball! Replays I've seen show a fight, but we never see who wins.

Bonds did his best to overshadow A-Rod.

redsock said...

Tiz on 2nd with 1 out. It would be nice to get him home.

Jere said...

Bonds up again.

Jere said...

Wow. Selig declines invitation to speak to ESPN anouncers! As said by our own Dave O'Brien. Wow.

Jere said...

Sorry about the two wows.

redsock said...

Bonds BB.

Jere said...

Bonds walks, but as Hershiser points out, he was swingin' for the fences, not letting up and waiting to get back to SF to break record.

Jere said...

Tek: hoping for HR. Let's say center field.

Jere said...

I'll take it!!!!

Jere said...

Manny will get no credit here.

redsock said...

MBM beats the throw!

Tek with 2 RBI. Wow.

Zenslinger said...

And Manny is NOT thrown out at the plate!

Jere said...

Did Seattle network show Manny chugging all the way from first? Or are they saying he just was running for a pizza and happened to run along the basepaths?

redsock said...

I have FSN on mute, so I don't know, but they did show the slide from about 4 angles. I assume they are saying he missed the plate with his hand?

phrenile said...

Though Drew was, for all intents and purposes.

Jere said...

Well NESN showed MBCarllewis. All the way around. They made no mention of a possibility of missing home.

redsock said...

Just saw footage of Slappy hitting 500. He stands stock still at the plate watching it, then takes a few little steps towards first. I wonder if Manny ever stood at the plate that long.

Jere said...

I'm writing about that right now, actually....

Edward Lee said...

FSN NW gave Manny credit for running hard and making a good slide.

Good call sending Manny home with The Artist Formerly Known As JD Drew on deck and 2 out, I think.

Jere said...

Key DP!

redsock said...

Dice is doing his own Houdini impression tonight.

s1c said...

Not picking on our venerable s1c here, of course

from dictionary.com venerable - extremely old or obsolete; ancient

I said it was inane - but it did spark discussion?

Good two out hit by tek - now lets get some breathing space.

Jere said...

Dice has stayed out of the "bad inning." I want more runs, so we don't have to worry about that....

Jere said...

Nice. Freakin' nice.

Jere said...

Papi gets third, too.

Jere said...

Tina almost got thrown out on that one!

Jere said...

4-1! Ask and I shall proverbially R.

redsock said...

I like doubles.

s1c said...

A break for the Sox, lets add some more though!!

redsock said...

Guess I'll head home when this half inning ends. Should be able to catch the 8th and 9th.

Jere said...

What? No third for Manny? Remy says it's the right play? He's running toward the wall!! If he misses it and you're tagging, you still score!

Jere said...

Yeah, Dice! Awesome. 4-1 after 6.

9casey said...

Is Dice done with 99?

Jere said...

Under 100? He ain't done. Let's take him out ourselves by adding like six runs here, though.

Jere said...

Ryan Rowland-Smith in. Who's next, Billy Jim-Jensen?

(NY-area, 80s, reference. And yes, I know it was Roland Smith, but close enough.)

Jere said...

Oka up. Smart. Have him at the ready.

9casey said...

It might be time for OkaGagPap

9casey said...

I'd say its time.........

9casey said...

First we have to have this at bat for Japanese televison......

San Francisco Red Sox Fan said...

What's the point of having all that relief pitching?

9casey said...

San Francisco Red Sox Fan said...
What's the point of having all that relief pitching?

We have the same number as everybody else ares are just better....

Smart ass aside ..I agree...

9casey said...

It is amazing though after 111 pitches he is still hitting 97...

Jere said...

G'night Ms in 7th. We go 8th. Great job by Dice tonight.

9casey said...

He is a strange pitcher...10 ks 2 solo shots 2 bb's and 2 hb and he can go 84 with a breakin ball and 97 with a fastball......sit dead red...

9casey said...

JD Drew......His real name :David Jonathan Drew

San Francisco Red Sox Fan said...

shouldn't he be DJ Drew?

Jere said...

68 MPH on that pitch from EGads.

9casey said...

San Francisco Red Sox Fan said...
shouldn't he be DJ Drew?

Unless I'm the dyslexic one...

Jere said...

WWJDD if he was DJDrew?

s1c said...

RE: J.D. - wouldn't be surprised to find that is a family thing. I have a nephew that is called J.D. - David Johnathon - We call him J.D. to separate from his dad.

9casey said...

Gameday has him at 97???????

9casey said...

s1c said...
RE: J.D. - wouldn't be surprised to find that is a family thing. I have a nephew that is called J.D. - David Johnathon - We call him J.D. to separate from his dad.

Why not call him David?

Jere said...

That one was 94 on NESN

San Francisco Red Sox Fan said...

WWJDD if he was DJDrew?

if a wood chuck could chuck wood?

Jere said...

Damn, he's got that "Wakefield fastball" slowball. About as hard to hit as a knuckleball.

Jere said...

Gagne's got the accent on the E. And it's above the nameplate.

9casey said...

Jere said...
Gagne's got the accent on the E. And it's above the nameplate.

Damn Canucks

9casey said...

Enough of this bring in the Bot

s1c said...

his dads name is David!

Jere said...

So shouldn't the accent be on the second syllable?

Oh, and also....come on, GagnE, get out of this!

9casey said...

Someone shake Tito

Jere said...

Ooh, in Canada, they must not roll the ball to first. Interesting.

9casey said...

Thank God

9casey said...

Jere said...
Ooh, in Canada, they must not roll the ball to first. Interesting.

Why what did he do

San Francisco Red Sox Fan said...

Ooh, in Canada, they must not roll the ball to first. Interesting.

They don't in Montreal. They do in the rest of Canada.

9casey said...

Tito would have taken any other pitcher out in that situation.....Lets not handle this guy with kid gloves

Jere said...

"Why what did he do"

I don't know, but the ball traveled through the air, as if by magic. Canadian magic. I woulda just bowled it over there.

9casey said...

I assumed you called the father DJ and thats why you called him JD

Jere said...

I don't know. Third base.

9casey said...

Jere said...
"Why what did he do"

I don't know, but the ball traveled through the air, as if by magic. Canadian magic

Pissin my pants here..Canadian Magic!

Jere said...

How about a base hit, and 5-3, Youk?

s1c said...

No the dad is just david

s1c said...

Bot time!

Jere said...

If the dad's just David, there's no need to differentiate!

Jere said...

The DJ could stand for David, Jr.

9casey said...

Jere said...
The DJ could stand for David, Jr.

Yeah....But thye call him JD too...

Jere said...

Oh wait, the kid's JD. Forget it.

9casey said...

Jere said...
If the dad's just David, there's no need to differentiate!

Unless s1c is JD Drew's Uncle

Jere said...

This is a real Nancy Drew mystery. A DN.

Jere said...

brak, brak, JD.

9casey said...

Shit ..Its after one the kids and wife are all sleepin and I'm down here laughin like a 4 year old

s1c said...

The dad is David
The nephew is David Jonathon
We call the nephew JD so that we don't get them both answering when we call for david. I didn't say it made sense, that is just the way it is!

Jere said...

Is s1c's dad named Steve One Charles? And they call him s1 to differentiate, even though they're both s1? But dad goes by Steve?

Nice K, Pap.

9casey said...

Jere...........STOP......PLEASE

Jere said...

Ok. One more out and you norms can go to bed, and we owls can continue to stay up later than this as usual.

Jere said...

Pap hitting 90 is like Wakefield to these Ms. Oh, except these guys weren't up last inning.

Oh! That was a swing! And a strike! Ok, maybe not. Should've got the call oe way or the other...

s1c said...

s1c is for something else, my dad's name was charles though!

One more strike then I can finish my audit!

Jere said...

shite

Jere said...

First time in a while I did the stand and clap, only to have to sit again.

Jere said...

great, Jones pulls a Roberts and a single can tie it. But Pap will get this guy.

Jere said...

So we gotta sweat through a Gagne save AND a Pap save in the same game now??

Jere said...

Back to Back BBs. Come on, now.

nick said...

did we really need this?

nick said...

ok, that's what we needed. eck.

San Francisco Red Sox Fan said...

thank you baseball gods

s1c said...

Have to love an opposing batter who swings at the first pitch after two consecutive walks!!

My freaking blood pressure can calm down now!

Jere said...

yeah!!!!!!! I hope early bird Yankee fans stayed up for this one..... doubtful, as they're long asleep, dreaming of the distant past when they were champs.

9casey said...

Thank God....Later

Jere said...

Deities getting a lot of credit here, who are we, DJ Drew?

Good night. Maybe.

redsock said...

Let's hear it for Canada!!!

Jere said...

Hooray, Canada. Our sons' command was a little off tonight, but we'll take it. Okay, now g'night.

Maria said...
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Maria said...

Does anyone know where I can watch last inning of tonight's game? (RS 4 M 3?) I have a full MLB TV account but can't seem to find the archive page anymore (God I hate MLB websites!)

s1c said...

Maria - if you go to the MLB.com scoreboard page, then click on the inning you want to watch, it should pop up.

9casey said...

s1c said...
Maria - if you go to the MLB.com scoreboard page, then click on the inning you want to watch, it should pop up.

I never knew that ...that is the best thing I 've seen all day....Thanks sic!!!!!!!!!!

s1c said...

'come

L-girl said...

Not picking on our venerable s1c here, of course

from dictionary.com venerable - extremely old or obsolete; ancient


Oh shit, sorry about that! I meant wise and worthy. (PS, use a real dictionary!)

L-girl said...

Wow, I missed a fun game thread last night, full of Canuckistan jokes and dyslexia. Damn west coast games (and work the next day). Brak brak and all that.