Blue Jays - 000 000 210 - 3 14 0The Red Sox battered Cecil with a four-dong fifth, with home runs from Jason Varitek (his second of the night), David Ortiz, Jason Bay and Mike Lowell.
Red Sox - 002 060 00x - 8 15 0
The big man slammed a 1-1 fastball into the camera well in dead center field. (He also doubled off The Wall in the eighth.) It increased the Red Sox's lead from 3-1 to 5-1 and sent Fenway into a frenzy. After Kevin Youkilis (3-for-5) singled to left, Bay hit a bomb over everything in left and Dr. Doubles followed him with a shot into the Monster Seats.
Penny (6.2-9-2-1-2, 96) pitched well, but wilted in the seventh. ... Jacoby Ellsbury set a new Red Sox record (and tied the major league mark) for most putouts by an outfielder with 12 catches. By inning: 222 212 001.
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Brett Cecil (1.80, 254 ERA+) / Brad Penny (6.69, 74 ERA+)
Cecil is a rookie lefty who turns 23 in July. He has made three starts for the Jays -- facing Cleveland, the Athletics and the White Sox this month -- pitching at least six innings every time out. Totals: 20 innings, 17 hits, 4 walks, 15 strikeouts.
BP 2009 describes Cecil, a 2007 supplemental-round pick, as a "big lefty with low-90s velocity, a plus slider, and a decent changeup ... projects as a mid-rotation horse".
Penny has also gone at least six innings in each of his last three starts, though he has had less success (18.2-21-5-14) than Cecil.
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Terry Francona talked a lot about David Ortiz on WEEI today. Extra Bases has lengthy quotes. One quote, in response to whether Ortiz could be finished as a hitter, Tito said:
No, I don't feel that way. You can go back and go a long way, because I've done some research, and look at Yaz. He had some injuries, and he went, what, 56 games one year. It was a pretty good dry spell, and he had what, 10 years in the major leagues and everyone thought he was done. I mean, everyone thought Pedroia was done before he got started. ...Research? Does Tito have a B-Ref subscription?
Yaz did not hit a home run in his first 57 games in 1972. That drought lasted until July 22! Yet what Tito may not know is that, when combined with a homer-less streak to end the previous season, Yaz actually went 72 games without a home run -- from September 4, 1971 to July 21, 1972.
That link shows all of his HR-less streaks, including a 43-gamer in 1976: July 10 to August 22 (my first game at Fenway!).
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1 – 200 of 291 Newer› Newest»RS, have you checked out the Posanski-Bill James article about Randy Johnson as the greatest among the generation's dominant quartet of RJ, Clemens, Pedro, and Maddux?
It's a kick in the balls when he goes into the bit about RJ having the best year, best two consecutive years, best three, etc. Pedro's "mediocre" 1998 screws him in this regard.
But James doesn't share his rating system for good seasons, which combines a lot of factors. If you consider ERA+ to be the measure of a man, Pedro handles RJ easily. RJ never had a season which broke an ERA+ of 200; Pedro had five. (Maddux, two; Clemens, three.) Not to mention that 2000's ERA+ was nearly 300 (as I learned on this blog, of course.)
Koufax, winning 27 games in 1966, had an ERA+ of 190.
What's the argument against ERA/ERA+ as the measure of a pitcher's performance, I wonder? Similarly, isn't it obvious that OPS/OPS+ should be the measure of a hitter?
I'll have to check it out tomorrow.
Marco Scutaro, SS
Aaron Hill, 2B
Alex Rios, RF
Vernon Wells, CF
Adam Lind, DH
Scott Rolen, 3B
Lyle Overbay, 1B
Rod Barajas, C
Travis Snider, LF
Jacoby Ellsbury, CF
Dustin Pedroia, 2B
David Ortiz, DH
Kevin Youkilis, 1B
Jason Bay, LF
Mike Lowell, 3B
Rocco Baldelli, RF
Jason Varitek, C
Julio Lugo, SS
It's not so much the Home Runs ...he's batting .203, that concerns me more...
yeah.
seeing papi like this depresses me. i had a dream that i ran into papi in switzerland and took him on a tour. wierd.
and i love it on this blog when some of you sabermetrixxx out. it's great fun!
I'm a rank amateur at any kind of baseball metrics. But it is fun.
Dear people, tomorrow night, look for me in the front row in dead center, directly over that garage door on the left--the one that's now the Bleacher Bar. Gray jersey, catching Papi's third dong of the year (after 2 tonight).
for a few reasons, we have had reconnected cable to our living room TV -- as it had been in years past -- so no more watching baseball in the bedroom.
i think this may be the reason for flo's slump. if he gets some hits tonight, we'll know for sure.
TSN2 preview again -- and NESN!!!!
Unbelievable that Buffy is MIA.
Game time! Another beautiful night for baseball.
And I thought the slump was my fault all this time.
It might be.
I love my living room set-up, so I am happy.
Who is with Orsillo?
What's the argument against ERA/ERA+ as the measure of a pitcher's performance, I wonder? Similarly, isn't it obvious that OPS/OPS+ should be the measure of a hitter?Both are luck-dependent to some extent that I think more sophisticated sabermetric stats try to eliminate. Also, they have their own specific issues.
ERA doesn't take into account number of innings pitched and undervalues pitchers like Wake who alternate between awesome and terrible, since at some point being more terrible doesn't actually hurt so much.
OPS weights slugging too heavily and doesn't account for baserunning.
None of this is helped by the reweighting that the + versions do.
Eck, huh?
eck says yook was "sorely missed"
hahha sorely!
Nice!
THERE'S ACATCH!
Okay, you're supposed to hit balls to dead center TOMORROW night. Nice catch, Jacobo Arbenz.
OTsingleT
let's show cecil some major league hitters.
Good evening, Joy Nation.
Went out for a very pleasant walk around the neighbourhood this evening and got in just in time for the first pitch.
What makes this evening even better? I have a burrito from Chipotle coming TO ME!
It's a nice ending to a day that was spent waiting at the hospital for four hours while my mother had an upper GI followthru scan.
Did DO say "humping the mound"?
eck, the blue jays ace's last name is not pronounced "holiday".
What is happening with your mom, Ish?
Hey fellas, when facing a pitcher you've never seen before, it's okay to take a few pitches.
"eck, the blue jays ace's last name is not pronounced "holiday"."
Oh yeah? Well a Harvard professor once said something about something and a dumbass called him an asshole and everyone laughed because it's cooler to be dumb than smart! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Amy she had to drink nasty liquid, have an x-ray and see if the liquid went through her system to see how it's working. Half hour later she had an x-ray. Hadn't gone through yet. Had an x-ray each half hour starting at 10:30... At 2:00 they finally got the shots they wanted and we were out of there.
She's had parts of her small bowel removed in recent years. Small parts but they need to keep an eye on things. She's also very susceptible and does get bowel obstructions. Fun times.
I see that behind the plate the team has found a place to squeeze in advertisements...between the advertisements.
I hope all is okay, Ish. Is she home now? Or still at the hospital?
To further Benjamin's point from days ago, every team in MLB has reached double-digits in a game at least once this year. Except for the Padres, who haven't scored more than 8 runs in any game.
So good to see Youk.
Even better to see him now!!
Or, Eck, it can go up to .400 and beyond!
Outstanding AB again by Youk. Got fooled by the changeup once, but not twice.
thanks, don!!!!
Hey, a nice welcome to you Canadian folk!
OK, Youk and Bay back together again.
thinking of this inning right now with two on, no out, makes you realize just how crazy it was when we got 12 runs home before anybody got out.
Amy she's home. Luckily apart from drinking the nasty liquids all she needed was the x-rays and she was good to go.
She was HUNGRY though. Wasn't able to eat anything since 9:00 last night.
Looks like tomorrow night you'll be getting NESN again, Allan. And anyone else across Canada who's watching TSN2.
that's what I'm talkin about
Glad to hear that, Ish. Hope she continues to be okay.
First two on, and we don't score. Sigh.
wasted.
fucking sweet play from fy
Someone needs to teach Eck about adverbs. It is driving me crazy.
Don says the ball landed off the wall.
And FY got the ball quickly but couldn't tag in time! Nevermind the ball was in a bad spot. That throw is one Manny would have gotten the OF assist on.
No damage done.
1st pitch pop up. thx.
his missed location stuff was good there, though.
Stay Thirsty, My Friends
The Yanks hit 3 dongs in a row to start the 2nd. Fortunately, Kevin Cash was the next batter.
BAL: 00
MFY: 13
TEKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
RIDE, CAPTAIN, RIDE on your mystery ship!
THAT'S my TEK!!
Get it on, bang a dong, GET IT ON.
ride, ish
Who has the most HRs on the team right now? Bay?
Who'd have thought that Tek would have more HRs and a better BA than Papi...
Lugo's highballin' it!
and here we are at game 40, wishing papi was hitting as well as tek ......
secret double!!!!!!!
The secret weapon!
Jere forgive me but I have no idea what you meant. Funny I looked back to make sure I spelled everything right too. I'm looking at a delicious burrito about to be eaten so I might just be delerious.
Lugo! Gotta love the bottom of the order.
highball hitter, lowball drinker. or something.
yay cecil
Ouch...
Ish, I don't know what Jere meant either.
Eck's speculating about injuries.
oh, just cueing you to "ride," meaning to tell Captain to ride on his mystery ship. You had beat me to it, so my comment ended up after yours anyway.
organist playing funeral music?
I feel like he just banged his face in the ground.
Dr. Eckersly on the job.
it's not unprecedented to "ask" ish to say the "ride" thing...
Guess he is staying in, despite Eck's diagnosis.
organist playing funeral music?I'd go with Yakety Sax.
Jere, gotcha. Makes sense. So much in life relies upon timing.
Speaking of which, I am progressing through your book and am almost finished. Things are heating up and I am really enjoying it.
I'm having a problem with the thread over-caching
ish: cool, glad you're liking it.
if he has the stuff, eck, it's not too early. everyone has a rookie season.
LETS GO FLOOOOOOOO
Meunier, too bad you weren't having a problem with the thread over-cashing. That WOULDN'T be a problem!
hey - I'M counting out the jays!
7th putout for LBJ already -- in 11 outs.
8 catches for position 8!
"7th putout for LBJ already -- in 11 outs."
and that fan in MY seat tomorrow has been on TV seven times. Terrible.
8 catches for position 8!
He only needs five more to break the record for most putouts in a 9-inning game by a CF
thnaks efd, reminds me i need to buy an updated record book
Don thinks the question of who's the single season record holder for GIDP's is sort of a negative Aflak trivia question.
Relatively quiet thread tonight. Guess we all exhausted ourselves last night.
birds have 2 in 4th, trail shiteaters 5-2
LBJ ruling the playing field!!!
Ellsbury wants the record.
lyndon needs the 3rd out here to have 2 putouts n each inning
Sit.
Pop fly homers in the Bronx tonight. Penny Looking decent?
Eck's going bridge. You know. Bridging the gap between being insightful and interesting to being annoying.
Wait. Nope bridged that already. Now he's bridging to something else.
1-2-3
HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!
TEK!! HOT!!!
Did we have a bet on how many HRs he would hit this season, or was it just his BA?
Jere, that could be you tomorrow night, catching Varitek's dong!
into jere's lap ... if he was there
watch, tomorrow's game will set a record for fewest fly balls in a game.
Tek second on the team with Hrs. Hah.
papi at .200
tek with 2 solo taters
we are thru the looking glass....
Here we go we're riding that mystery ship again! That ship is extra mysterious tonight! Bang a dong and then plug a gap!
Damn Ellsbury. Haha he takes so many crazy chances on the basepaths doesn't he?
And you were all ready to send him out to pasture....
safe or out -- ump completely out of position
THE LARGE FATHER!!!!!! BIG DADDY DONG!!!!
HOORAY BIG PAPI!!!!!!
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GOOD TIMES
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
LIVING ROOM TV MOJO!!!!!!!!
Suicide watch for Jere?
YAY!!!
WOOOOOO!!! LOVE that crowd!!!
that's probably the happiest I've ever been for a home run in the 40th game of the season.
I gotta remind myself to listen to the highlights on the radio. I wanna hear Castig's call!
Tears in my eyes! Gotta love the Papi and the fans behind him there.
Redsock, you'll never watch baseball in the bedroom again.
apres le fucking deluge ...
What a smile!
Allan, keep that TV in the living room... It obviously WAS your fault.
WOW a three dong inning!
THUNDER BAY!!!!!! DOUNGHOMRE BRITISH COLUMBIA CANADA!!!
eck: "I'm surprised they didn't get the bullpen up when i said to get the bullpen up."
THUNDER!!!!!!!!!!!
ohhhh waa ohw aaa
AY BAY BAY
not to be out-DOUNG!
Eck: And we thought Yankee Stadium was Happyland tonight! No Fenway Park is Happyland tonight!
HAPPYLAND!
HOLY SHIT!
They can't stop hitting 'em!
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
FUCK
YOU
CITO
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BACK DOCTOR DONG!
Eck says he left him in too long.
Ya think???
BAND BOX!!!Get it on, bang LOTS of dongs, GET IT ON!
I'm currently scrambling to grade before my final Wed night class of the semester. But I was keeping an eye on the game on this old shitty computer and had to pop in to celebrate:
DAVID DONG!
Whew. That was weighing on me...
I love baseball. What joy!
PAPI! OMG WHAT AN INNING!
This inning feels like sex.
Holy fucking crap. This is some answer for the Yankee back-to-back-to-back.
Four-dong inning.
Wow.
Stay Thirsty, My Friends
Wow, that brought everyone out of the woodwork! Where have you all been?
I'm telling ya. There's something in that water in Boston. Know what it is? It's a whoooole lotta dirty! Blue Jay killers right there.
I would have to say Pedro but come on how can you really make that call for sure. They all have their justification of being the best. Pedro's stats though are by far the best right?
redsock said...
let's show cecil some major league hitters.
Wed May 20, 07:16:00 PM
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the introduction is complete.
My last comment was to Zen's first comment of the thread.
Porn Star Triple
BALD TRIPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!
DELUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Baldelli's mitochondria seem to be in fine shape.
What? Only three bases? No Dong?
:)
Welcome to a Red Sox inning Mr Baldelli, of whom I sat mere inches from while he was talking up a blondie.
The team is on the Cycle and has batted around!
If tek hammers one here I might actually put hamsters in my ass.
LBJ cut down on a double.
then
HR
1B
HR
HR
3B
Tek starts it and ends it...
and hamsters across California breathe a sigh of relief.
If tek hammers one here I might actually put hamsters in my ass.Let me run out to the pet store.
that first comment from our blue jays friend may also be his last. :>)
An offensive madness is sweeping the MLB simultaneously. To wit: the Braves (still ongoing) 9-run 4th inning.
I've been posting this everywhere since it is so awsome;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aGTNS13SDU
Ms. Piggy sings Peaches "Fuck the Pain Away".
10!!! Ties Red Sox record.
Ten for LBJ!
Evening, all. I see several large dongs, one of them Dominican and two of them by the supposed impotent captain. I am not at all saddened by these sights. In fact, WOO.
I feel like Eck was abducted by aliens and had his vocabulary changed.
L pulling in! She's gonna be annoyed at missing this fun.
I feel like Peaches should write a song about Boston's dongs tonight.
I wish Veritek had a speech issue like Eck so we could call him Tekersley
Quite a game. And only the 6th inning.
Just what does Eck mean by the bridge?
KK
He may be throwing almost nothing but fastballs, but he looks pretty good tonight, Eck.
EDUCATED CHEESE
I think my computer is Canadian. It said I spelled neighborhood wrong and I should spell it neighbourhood. Also, unrelated, thinks "Nevermind" is spelled wrong!
Laura's Boy is putting out tonight!
L says hi. And is glad for Mr. Americo!
New RS record for LBJ! Almost to the MLB record! Tell Laura to hurry up and watch.
11 - new sox record
Hi, Laura!
Ish, I thought that was an Andy comment about putting out!
I think my computer is Canadian. It said I spelled neighborhood wrong and I should spell it neighbourhood. Also, unrelated, thinks "Nevermind" is spelled wrong!It might be Brit. What does it say, realise or realize?
Ofer, it likes both realize and realise.
And BTW, Penny is building up some major trade value tonight.
Ofer, it likes both realize and realise.Tyre or tire?
Also, unrelated, thinks "Nevermind" is spelled wrong!It is, unless you're referring to a Nirvana album.
And Penny's ERA plummets, down below 6 now.
Tyre tire
BOTH!
Bard throws seeds? Is that better or worse than cheese?
this game feels like a real shot across the bow of the first place team here. Notice has been served, WE are the DOMINION!
Ish, what word processor is it? Word? Word Perfect? Something else?
Or not a word processor at all?
Tyre tire
BOTH!That's actually a bad example, since Tyre could be the city in Lebanon and tire could just be the verb of getting tired. Anyway, I should stop now. Your computer is probably from the Falklands.
From Baseball Almanac; 2 more PO's and Ellsbury breaks the record of 12 in a 9 inning game for an outfielder held by Lyman Bostock and Earl Clark.
Amy it's firefox.
I would love to see Papi with a double-sided dong here.
Papi was ON that slider. He stayed with it and fouled it into the seats 1B side like he's seeing the ball better.
Then he goes backwards K. My sentiment is the same as the crowd: "Awwwww!"
That was inside.
Hmm, Firefox on my computer rejects realise and accepts neighborhood.
Perhaps you downloaded a British or Canadian version of Firefox?
Peavy!!! Trade for Peavy with Penny and Lugo.
Fuck give em nick green and a minor league pitcher if they want youth.
Amy I think he said Bard throws C's as in roman numeral 100. I really really want to believe this was the case.
LOL, Andy. I either cannot hear well or I just figure Eck is talking some strange lingo I don't know. Thanks for the explanation.
Penny done
Ugh bad bounce
Hmm, time to take out Penny?
Pooooooooooooooollll him. Say it outloud with a feminine male voice.
Hurry up MDC
Kinda like Stewie on Family Guy
Penny ruining his nice line for the night...
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