May 22, 2009

G42: Mets 5, Red Sox 3

Mets    - 010 300 100 - 5  8  3
Red Sox - 010 200 000 - 3 6 1
Dice was strong out of the gate, retiring ten of his first 11 batters on only 37 pitches. But he faltered in the fourth, after a missed chance at a double play would have ended the inning with the Mets up only 2-1.

With one out, Carlos Beltran hit a ground rule double to right, Gary Sheffield (who had homered in the second) walked, and David Wright poked an RBI single to center. Jeremy Reed bounced to second. Dustin Pedroia flipped to Julio Lugo, but Lugo stayed anchored to the bag and threw flat-footed (and late) to first. The next two batters hit RBI singles and Boston trailed 4-1. (Dice: 5-5-4-2-4, 80)

The Sox got two back right away, though, on a errant throw from shortstop Ramon Martinez. Jason Bay had walked and been forced by J.D. Drew, and Mike Lowell doubled. Down by one run with one out, and Jason Varitek on second, Lugo fouled out to third and Jacoby Ellsbury flied out to center.

The same situation arose in the sixth. Still trailing 4-3, Boston had runners at second and third with one out. Lugo popped up to second and Ellsbury grounded out to shortstop. Boston went in order in both the eighth and ninth innings.

Ellsbury had an infield single in the first (17 games!). Varitek homered in the second. Pedroia had a double and single. Ortiz looked horrible against Santana, striking out three times and grounding into a double play.

Bright Side: Atlanta beat the Blue Jays 1-0 and the Phillies topped the Yankees 7-3.

***

Johan Santana (1.36, 324 ERA+) / Daisuke Matsuzaka (12.79, 39 ERA+)

Santana leads the National League in ERA and ERA+, is second in K/9 (11.4), and has the third best BB/K ratio. He allowed two or fewer runs in his first seven starts (an 0.78 ERA), before giving up four in his last outing.

Santana has a 5-2 record; in both of his losses, he allowed no earned runs. Since 2004, he has a 2.75 ERA, tops among all pitchers with at least 600 innings.

On the other side of the diamond is Matsuzaka. Dice began his season on April 9 with an average outing against Tampa (5.1-9-4-3-5, 100), then lasted only one inning against the A's (1-5-5-2-0, 43) on April 14 before going on the disabled list with shoulder fatigue/inflammation.

Dice made three rehab starts for Pawtucket, allowing nine hits and five walks in 11.2 innings, while striking out 14 K (1.59 ERA, 1.235 WHIP).

The injury-plauged Mets -- Carlos Delgado had surgery this past Tuesday to repair a labrum tear and remove a bone spur in his right hip joint, Jose Reyes has tendinitis behind his right calf and is day-to-day, Alex Cora has a torn ligament in his right thumb, Oliver Perez is out with right knee tendinitis -- have lost four in a row (scoring only six runs) and have dropped out of first place in the NL East.

The Mets are 21-19 and are 1.5 GB the Phillies. ... They have not hit a home run since May 13 -- 67.2 innings ago. ... The Stems last played the Red Sox June 27-29, 2006, when they were swept in three games at Fenway.

***

David Wright Fun Facts: has MLB-best .463 batting average in May ... MLB-best .438 road average ... has 12-game hitting streak (.511) ... has reached base at least three times in each of his last seven games ... in San Francisco series (May 14-16), had nine hits, nine RBI and five stolen bases -- since 1920 (when RBI were first officially recorded), no player has ever had 9+ hits, 9+ RBI and 5+ SB over any three-game span.

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redsock said...

Music Tip: If you like the Beatles, here arelinks to Purple Chick Deluxe Editions of the White Album (12 CD) and Let It Be (6 CD).

tim said...

Just lost a softball tourney heartbreaker - semi-final extra inning walkoff :(

But Steph had a Papi-esque walkoff in the game that sent us TO the playoffs, 2 outs, last inning...so that was sweet.

Anyway lets beat these STEMS!

9casey said...

Unless Santana absolutely dominates , this could be a very long weekend for the Mets....

Jere said...

Yeah, tonight is the Mets' "must-win" of this series. Of course, series often look different in hindsight than in foresight. Suzyn.

redsock said...

Interleague Oatmeal

Daniel Murphy, 1B
Ryan Church, RF
Carlos Beltran,CF
Gary Sheffield, DH
David Wright, 3B
Jeremy Reed, LF
Omir Santos, C
Ramon Martinez, SS
Luis Castillo, 2B

Jacoby Ellsbury, CF
Dustin Pedroia, 2B
David Ortiz, DH
Kevin Youkilis, 1B
Jason Bay, LF
J.D. Drew, RF
Mike Lowell, 3B
Jason Varitek, C
Julio Lugo, SS

Adam Kilgore has Beckett pitching tonight. ?

tim said...

Adam Kilgore has Beckett pitching tonight. ?lol to the first 20 comments there. jeeeesus.

redsock said...

I'm #14!

redsock said...

Red Sox record when leading after six innings: 19-0

Scoring 0-1-2 runs: 2-6
Scoring 3 or 4 runs: 4-7
Scoring 5+ runs: 19-3

Jere said...

oh mercy. We're gonna wear solid red hats with the little stars and stripes in the B on Monday, July 4th, and 9/11.

redsock said...

GBA.

L-girl said...

Hey all. If it's one thing I hate more than interleague play, it's the Mets! Let's whomp them.

L-girl said...

"We're gonna wear solid red hats with the little stars and stripes in the B on Monday, July 4th, and 9/11."

Jebus. I could deal with the 4th, but 9/11??? That is so offensive.

L-girl said...

"Red Sox record when leading after six innings: 19-0"

And this compares to other teams how?

redsock said...

Every time I look at the pitching match-up, I think "we are fucked".

Fortunately, anything can happen.

redsock said...

And this compares to other teams how?

Do I have to do everything? ... :>)

Most teams are probably no worse than 17-3 or something like that.

(I'm just jinxing us, is all.)

Jere said...

I was also referring to the look of the hat itself, which they just showed. Not my bag, baby. But yeah, what the freak? I think the stars/stripes hats may have also been worn on 9/11 last year (as every team did.)

Isn't treating 9/11 like a national holiday contributing to the whole "letting the terrorists win" thing? I mean, I don't give a crap obviously, but still.

redsock said...

the terrorists have won.

Jere said...

Usually it's the "after 8 innings" stat that's brought up, and it's misleading, because most times you'll win if you're up after 8. But it def. says something about our sweet pen that we're undefeated when winning after SIX. I bet some teams have some pretty bad records in that situation. Relatively, that is.

Jere said...

Right, 9/11 is a day they totally won-so why do flag wavers wanna act like it's some patriotic holiday? I guess it's like Pearl Harbor Day. Hey, it's their crossword puzzle.

L-girl said...

"lol to the first 20 comments there. jeeeesus."

I had to go look, what a hoot.

redsock said...

L: NESN?

Edward Lee said...

Isn't treating 9/11 like a national holiday contributing to the whole "letting the terrorists win" thing? I mean, I don't give a crap obviously, but still.Considering how many man-hours and tubes of toothpaste have been lost at our nation's airports in the last 8 years, I think the terrorists have already scored a resounding victory.

Jere said...

You know that guy that just K'd has "Shipping Up to Boston" as his at bat music? (Did I learn that here?)

redsock said...

I feel like eating potato chips ....

L-girl said...

"the terrorists have won."

For sure. But which terrorists?

"But it def. says something about our sweet pen that we're undefeated when winning after SIX."

It says something, but we don't know how much it says unless we know what other teams' records are when leading after 6.

Kevin said...

Sit

Zenslinger said...

AJ Burnett's start against Philly: HR, HBP, single. Ryan Howard up.

Then again, their pitchers have had a lot of bad first innings lately, and it hasn't hurt them much.

Hey, is Dice throwin' strikes or what?

Jere said...

"Considering how many man-hours and tubes of toothpaste have been lost at our nation's airports in the last 8 years, I think the terrorists have already scored a resounding victory."

Right, but if you read what I wrote, I said "contributing" to it.

Zenslinger said...

"the terrorists have won.'

For sure. But which terrorists?"

Nice, Laura.

2004: The terrorists were reelected.

L-girl said...

A: NESN.

* * * *

Tubes of toothpaste, hundreds of lives, a few thousand eyes and legs, billions of dollars in tax money, civil liberties, reputation in the world...

Kevin said...

Sit

Jere said...

"It says something, but we don't know how much it says unless we know what other teams' records are when leading after 6."

Well what if we were undefeated when leading after 4? Or 1? The lower you get, the less you need to see any other team's record in the same situation to know how good it is.

redsock said...

I like it.

L-girl said...

Thanks Zen. But don't forget the quotes around "elected". They got put back in power, but...

Kevin said...

OTT

That was uncharacteristically efficient.

Amy said...

Hi, everyone. Mets/Red Sox. Sweet.

L-girl said...

"Well what if we were undefeated when leading after 4? Or 1? The lower you get, the less you need to see any other team's record in the same situation to know how good it is."

Nevertheless. You can know it's good, but you don't know how good unless you know it in relation to others.

Just like a lot of RBIs are good, but you only know how good if you know how many men were on base when the batter was up.

L-girl said...

A, re TV, it's on the regular EI. And Rogers is still showing that Memorial Cup hockey thingy and NO Blue Jays - again! Weird.

Amy said...

That was graceful.

L-girl said...

17!

Amy said...

LBJ gets another hit on his first AB. No tension about keeping the streak alive.

Amy said...

These Mets sort of look like they did in 62 so far.

Jere said...

I'm just sayin', in the "after 8 innings" stat, if a team was undefeated, I'd say "that's good, but..."

When it gets down to around 6, you can take your chances getting rid of the "but."

Nice job, Mets.

redsock said...

Mets are 15-3 when leading after 6.
Mets are 17-1 when leading after 7.
Mets are 17-0 when leading after 8.

Jere said...

Of course, we're still talking May here with these stats, making them less, you know, whatever.

redsock said...

sanatan gets the rivera zone

Edward Lee said...

The 96 Yankees were something like 70-4 when leading after six.

19-0 is pretty good but not exceptional, I would say.

L-girl said...

I'm tempted to post anything about leading after 6 just to see how long this can go on. But I'm done.

Zenslinger said...

"don't forget the quotes around 'elected'."

Yeah, but why was it even close enough to fuck about with?

Ah, screw it. I'm done with my semester, going to see Jane's Addiction tonight, and we're gonna beat Santana.

Jere said...

"19-0 is pretty good but not exceptional, I would say."

Ha! I hope that's a joke. DId you want them to be 20 and negative 1?

redsock said...

Even the Nationals are 10-4 when leading after 7.

Amy said...

Uch, 2 Ks. We need to get the ball back on the ground so they can bumble it.

Edward Lee said...

Ha! I hope that's a joke. DId you want them to be 20 and negative 1?No, I just think that 19-game streaks of winning when leading after six may not be all that rare.

L-girl said...

"Yeah, but why was it even close enough to fuck about with"

I know. It's too depressing to think about so I focus on election fraud.

Jere said...

"Even the Nationals are 10-4 when leading after 7."

I consider that relatively bad. Four blown games out of fourteen with two innings left.

L-girl said...

Exceptional as not an exception, something most teams do.

redsock said...

The "closeness" was also due to massive multi-state fraud, but I take your point.

Zenslinger said...

How are the Mets at reaching the playoffs when ahead by X games on September Y the last couple of years?

I don't hate the Mets (as some do, shades of '86), but they've gotten what they deserved the last couple of years.

Amy said...

Oh, well, that looked so promising.

Jere said...

we totally should have scored. pissed.

redsock said...

... and the Red Sox you-know-what.

Amy said...

I was a Mets fan before I was a Sox fan. And I would still root for them against any team other than the Sox. Although 1986 did sting a lot....

L-girl said...

"The 96 Yankees were something like 70-4 when leading after six."

Wait, you posted this and no one attacked it and told you why it doesn't count and isn't really true? This thread is falling down on the job.

I would have thought that was a 98 stat, not 96. Either way, impressive.

L-girl said...

God I hate the Mets. It's in there very deep. I love to hate them.

L-girl said...

And I HATE Gary Sheffield no matter what team he's on!

Jere said...

The Mets were "my NL team", right until the day the ALCS and NLCS were done in '86. Ever since, they're just, the team in NY I don't hate.

Sheffield you're a piece o crap

Kevin said...

Fuck

Edward Lee said...

1996 is the season where Rivera pitched 107 innings and Wetteland closed.

Also, have I mentioned how much I hate Gary Sheffield?

redsock said...

have i mentioned lately how much i hate roidhead gary "throwing games in milwaukee" sheffeild?

Amy said...

But Sheffield I detest.

Jere said...

John Henry and that "trophy wife" of his are behind the plate. Off to the right.

L-girl said...

It's his wife. She is not a trophy any more than he is. They are both humans.

redsock said...

i think she's got the trophy. i wanna date the billionaire owner of the red sox.

A Conformer said...

So if there's one thing everybody agrees on, is hating Gary Sheffield. Common enemy and all that.

Jere said...

Think Eck likes umps? :)

Jere said...

L: that's why I put it in quotes

L-girl said...

"1996 is the season where Rivera pitched 107 innings and Wetteland closed"

Indeed.

I have a feeling Edward Lee does not know the background here.

I was still a rabid NYY fan in those days. As in, from the beginning of my baseball life until the summer of 2003. I followed them madly in the 90s.

While living with the mad Red Sox fan who writes this blog.

Jere said...

But I will add: people who marry people for money, and old people who marry young people because of their looks, are a little less human in my mind.

redsock said...

I thought B-Ref (not to be confused with b-fly) would have those type of stats, but a quick look tells me no.

L-girl said...

Why use the expression at all, quotes or not?

L-girl said...

I will add that you don't know fuck all about why any couple is together, unless you are part of that couple.

Your assumptions just showed why you used the expression.

redsock said...

But I will add: people who marry people for money, and old people who marry young people because of their looks, are a little less human in my mind.

I'll let them know.

Amy said...

Laura, do you hate the Mets because you were a Yankee fan? Or because of 86? Or just because?

Like Jere, I no longer consider myself a Mets fan, but they are still my preferred NL team. And my son-in-law and his family are all rabid Mets fans, so it keeps peace in the family.

Amy said...

Being human means being flawed and making all kinds of silly decisions.

Jere said...

Hey I read the long article about their little love affair. If that girl was a complete ogre, I'd believe he was madly in love with her. And if Henry was a homeless dude, I'd believe she was madly in love with him. Fuck celebrities and rich and beautiful people.

Amy said...

OK, get the damn run back and then some.

Kevin said...

Alright, damage minimized. Let's get some runs.

Amy said...

Why can't he love her for reasons other than her beauty and she love him for reasons other than his money? How would any of us know?

L-girl said...

I hate the Mets because I have hated them all my life. Mostly because I was a Yankees fan, but also because I love to rag on them and their fans.

I temporarily suspended that hatred to root for them in 86, as most non-Sox New Yorkers did.

Not sure why I would hate them for 86, that was loooong before I ever dreamed I'd be a Sox fan.

A Conformer said...

Fuck celebrities and rich and beautiful people.I want to, but they always reject me.

Jere said...

Hey, maybe they're the only two in the world. You're right. But I see a young beautiful person and an old rich person getting together, and I put the pieces together. Has nothing to do with which one is which gender, or if they're the same gender, by the way.

redsock said...

Jere knows all. He can divine the innermost motives of both man and beast. Jesus, Amy, is this your first night here?

Jere said...

"
I temporarily suspended that hatred to root for them in 86, as most non-Sox New Yorkers did."

Definitely lots of Yank fans that rooted for the Sox in '86, due to their Met hatred, which was so rampant while the Mets were NY's team in the mid-80s.

Amy said...

Yeah, I thought maybe it was retroactive hate for 1986. I knew you were a Yankee fan back then.

For so much of their history the Mets have been so laughable or boring that is hard to imagine hating them. But then I was never a Yankee fan.

L-girl said...

Jere, that is so offensive. If I didn't know better I'd think you were either 12 years old or a stupid wingnut. You put the pieces together? Human relationships are a little more complex than the pieces YOU can put together from what you see on TV.

Jere said...

I'm sure Ana Nicole Smith really loved that old wrinkled dude because he had a big heart and he really loved her because she had two big hearts.

Amy said...

Allan, you know how naive I can be. :)

Jere said...

John Henry is married to a young, beautiful woman because he's rich. I'd bet his fortune on it.

L-girl said...

"Definitely lots of Yank fans that rooted for the Sox in '86, due to their Met hatred, which was so rampant while the Mets were NY's team in the mid-80s."

Don't count on it, baby. I was an adult living in NYC then, you were a child in NJ. Very few Yankee fans could get it up to cheer for the Sox.

Amy said...

TEK!!!! I LOVE YOU!

Jere said...

That's a home run, Sheffield.

redsock said...

AND IT'S A V BOMB FOR V-TEK!

Kevin said...

TEK!!!

Amy said...

OK, I would love Tek for his dongs, not his money or fame. And not his looks.

L-girl said...

CAPTAIN!

Jere said...

L: My friends who were in NY at the time all say they and their friends rooted AGAINST the Mets in '86. I would think it would be the other way, but a lot were so anti-Mets then they couldn't root for them. My friend from Bronx puts it this way: "I never hated the Red Sox because I'd never met one Red Sox fan." SO all they knew was Met hate.

Benjamin said...

AND IT'S A V BOMB FOR V-TEK!

"It's a Tek's message in the Green Monster seats. You really (golden) fleeced Santana, Jason!"

A Conformer said...

The Cap'n is fucking hot!

redsock said...

Jere, your chatter about John Henry is EXACTLY the same as the blather from former co-workers who went on and on about what a nice guy Brad Pitt is or what a snippy bitch Fill In The Blank is.

People talking about celebrities they have never met and thinking they actually know them and know how and what they think. It's beyond fucking stupid.

But yeah, "fuck the rich", blah blah, very punk....

redsock said...

And to absolutely nail it and prove my point, you actually brought up Anna Nicole Smith.

Amy said...

Harvey rooted for the Red Sox in 86, but probably because he knew I would kill him otherwise. Not sure who he would have rooted for if he was not married to me (for my money, not my looks, by the way) and living in New England.

Bay! Nice catch.

L-girl said...

My sister is totally hot and she is married to a very wealthy man. I guess she's a trophy wife and a gold digger. Next time I see her I'll let her know.

Jere said...

Well I could've said "some old guy I know and his young beautiful wife" but referring to celebrities illustrates the point. I'm not talking about celebrities, I'm talking about superficiality.

L-girl said...

"(for my money, not my looks, by the way)"

:>)

Kevin said...

Sit

redsock said...

Call it whatever you want ... it the same mindset.

L-girl said...

"I'm not talking about celebrities, I'm talking about superficiality."

No, you're just talking bullshit.

Amy said...

Talking about superficiality? You are being superficial by assuming you can read people's feelings and motives based on their looks or their bank account.

Jere said...

I'm not talking bullshit, I'm telling you that it's quite obvious when people marry each other for something other than love. It is very sad.

L-girl said...

"My friends who were in NY at the time all say they and their friends rooted AGAINST the Mets in '86."

And you believe them. That's your problem.

A Conformer said...

Less than 12P/inning for Daisuke thus far. I'm scared.

Kevin said...

OTT

35 pitches through 3

Still uncharacteristically efficient

Edward Lee said...

Gameday must be broken -- right now it claims that Dice-K has thrown 35 pitches over 3 innings.

L-girl said...

When someone says "it's quite obvious" about someone else's relationship, he reveals bullshit. There is nothing obvious about other people's relationships.

Jere said...

"
And you believe them. That's your problem."

Yes, I believe my die-hard Yankee fan friend from Bronx of 20 years when he tells me his staunch rooting opinions. Why wouldn't I?

L-girl said...

Alright, for the sake of the other people on the thread, I will attempt to mentally put Jere on ignore. Sorry to go on for so long.

Amy said...

Yeah, good idea, Laura. There's a good game going on here.

Fuck YEAH!

Jere said...

I was glad to see DP rounding second, not just cruising into it.

Amy said...

Ortiz getting pissy. I like him mad---better than sad and defeated.

redsock said...

"I'm not talking bullshit, I'm telling you that it's quite obvious when a ballplayer is trying as hard as he can, especially if he has dark skin. It is very sad."

Amy said...

"Who cares if I like it or not? I don't."

Eck on nterleague play.

Jere said...

I'm proud to be an anti-wealthist!

Edward Lee said...

Eck thinks that batting is strenuous for pitchers? As opposed to, say, pitching?

redsock said...

Eck is right. 2 bombs and 10 ribbies for the Cubs in 86, traded to A's.

Amy said...

I think he meant that pitchers shouldn't bat because they can get hurt. I assume he means AL pitchers who are not used to hitting.

Jere said...

"to the point where you're almost ling down." --line of the year

L-girl said...

I thought Eck's batting stats had to be right, they were so specific. Like Remy always mentioning his 7 dongs.

redsock said...

Like Remy always mentioning his 7 dongs.

Now I know why Mrs. Remy looks so tired.

L-girl said...

open goal

Edward Lee said...

I think he meant that pitchers shouldn't bat because they can get hurt. I assume he means AL pitchers who are not used to hitting.I realize this. I think the risk of injury from giving a AL pitcher 2 days of BP and 5-6 ABs over a season is pretty minimal.

redsock said...

Huh, I didn't know "anti-wealthist" meant judging whether or not two people you've never meant love each other based solely on silly bullshit in your own head. Someone call Webster's.

Jere said...

I"m calling a psychologist tomorrow. I will prove this to all of you. What tips it off for me is the fact that people tend to hang out with their own age group. YOu go to college, you're not gonna meet a 90 year old and fall in love because there aren't any 90 year olds in your class. If you marry that person, it's because they have a lot of money. And they're marrying you because you're young and better looking than any of the 90 year old around you.

Amy said...

I just wish baseball had ONE rule. I can live with or without the DH rule. I hated it at first, but now I like it. But what bothers me is that we have two leagues playing different games.

Shit. Another run.

Jere said...

that's how I feel, Amy

Kevin said...

Bleh...there goes the tie

DP please?

redsock said...

I"m calling a psychologist tomorrow.

.....

L-girl said...

Adults hang around with adults. After a certain point in adulthood, people have relationships with people outside their age range. Many of my closest friends have spouses 10, 15 or 20 years older or younger than them. I have had relationships with people 17 years older than me.

I'm sorry to fall down on my earlier statement but that is just too much. As if being partners is "hanging out" with someone.

I hope you do call a psychologist. That would be an excellent idea.

Edward Lee said...

We'll be fine just as long as the Mets aren't leading by more then 3 runs when Frankie Rodriguez comes in.

Amy said...

I am forcing myself not to respond to that remark. Or trying to.

I have colleagues who have been married for 26 years now. He is 17 years older than she is. Neither is rich, neither is gorgeous. They married each other because they LOVED each other. Imagine that.

redsock said...

FJL

Jere said...

When I said "hanging out" I mean the way people meet people.

I said psychologist, not psychiatrist.

L-girl said...

Ah but Amy, if either of them WERE rich or gorgeous, that would be why they were married (like my gorgeous sister and her rich husband) and that would be very sad and you would be a communist for saying so.

Amy said...

Now I am starting to worry. Jere and I agree on the DH rule, and we were both once Mets fans. Uh oh.

Kevin said...

Shit

L-girl said...

"I said psychologist, not psychiatrist."

So did I.

L-girl said...

Ok, deep breath, I'll try again.

Edward Lee said...

Where the hell did that slider miss?

Amy said...

LOL, Laura.

What difference does it make whether you said psychologist or psychiatrist?

redsock said...

We started talking about John Henry and his wife (or soon to be wife).

She is not in college and he is not 90 years old. Unable to response to actual criticism of your ignorant opinions, you decide to move the goalpoats to something "silly" (I guess) and are now talking about college-age people marrying 90-year-olds.

You are not fooling anyone.

redsock said...

thanks again, julio, you stupid flat-footed motherfucker.

Amy said...

Dice K is not shutting them down. DAMN.

Kevin said...

Shit again

Jere said...

"What difference does it make whether you said psychologist or psychiatrist?"

Because the latter appears as more of an open goal, as they say. I knew full well what I was writing. I even erased psychiatrist and changed it.

redsock said...

where is that guy who was pitching the first 3 innings? bring him back out.

Amy said...

Open goal? How does that fit here?

Both professions study the human mind, both provide therapy, one can write prescriptions. I don't get your point.

9casey said...

Something has to be there to attract people to each other, I see both points.....But it is hard to beleive that the first thing that attracted her was his looks....People are attacted to power, money, personality and looks......I have heard John Henry speak, that rules out personality and I already ruled out looks, that doesn't leave much....

L-girl said...

Thanks Allan. I was going to mention that, but was trying not to. I don't know what the age difference between John Henry and his partner is, but it doesn't look like so unusual. He's not a withered old geezer and she looks fully adult.

Honestly, a good-looking, smart and wealthy man like John Henry, whoever he is with, people would say she was in it for the money. I don't know him at all, but chances are he's aware of that pitfall and is factoring it in.

A Conformer said...

I don't know if I really want to walk into the crossfire here, but fuck it: I'm friends with a 48 year old woman, and would love to be able to have a relationship with her (I'm not because she lives in NC and she's rejected me (: ). I wouldn't want to marry her because I don't believe in marriage, but that's kinda irrelevant.
Also, my dad's girlfriend for the last 8 years is 17 years younger than him, and I'm as certain as I can be from the outside that they just love each other.
I've met plenty of people who are 10 or more years older than me, and have liked a lot of them, sexually or not, money and looks notwithstanding. These things do happen.

Kevin said...

Finally

Score Runs

Jere said...

I'm not trying to fool anyone. John Henry is a rich old dude. His wife is a beautiful young girl. They didn't get together because she hangs out with baseball team owners on a regular basis and happened to choose him as the one with the best personality. Or because he hangs out at Club Paradise and hangs out with young girls post-divorce and thought she was the one with the most common interests.

L-girl said...

9C, you think John Henry is not attractive? He is. Different kind of attractive than Theo, but still a very handsome man. And his quiet way of speaking can be very appealing. I'm not the only woman who can't stand the big macho types.

Amy said...

How can you judge his personality from TV interviews? That says nothing about what he is like as a person one on one or in relationships.

I know lots of people who sounds stiff when interviewed. I am sure I would. Doesn't mean I don't have a personality.

And I don't think he is ugly either.

Jere said...

"These things do happen."

Well, sure. Sometimes I'm sure they do.

Amy said...

And I am sure he is intelligent also.

L-girl said...

John Henry is OLD???? And his wife is a GIRL????

SHE IS A WOMAN

AND

HE IS NOT OLD

For godsakes! How old is Henry????

redsock said...

Angel Pagan replaces a guy named Church!!!

Jere said...

"Open goal? How does that fit here?

Both professions study the human mind, both provide therapy, one can write prescriptions. I don't get your point."

Just the way they're treated by society. Only going to one suggests you might be crazy.

L-girl said...

"young girl"

You are fucking amazing. Young girl.

Amy said...

John Henry will be 60 this year. If that is old, I am going to start checking out assisted living now.

A Conformer said...

Angel Pagan must be the best name ever. Who do I call to change mine?

Jere said...

L: Look, I don't know what the hell to call females. I know you have said "lady" and "gal" are no longer the way to go And you told me that females have "taken back" the word "girl." I promise you, I'm trying to use female terms I know YOU are comfortable with because I'm not trying to insult either gender. SO, whatever you call her, that's what she is. A mature adult female who is not nearly as old as Henry.

redsock said...

He's 59, she's 30.

Amy said...

Hardly, Jere. In today's world, many mentally ill people see a psychologist because psychiatrists only write prescriptions and also because their health insurance won't pay for a psychiatrist.

Jere said...

I thought "girl" would be the most empowering thing to call her based on what I've learned from you.

redsock said...

The word you are looking for is:

WOMAN

Amy said...

THE WORD IS WOMAN!

L-girl said...

"Open goal? How does that fit here?"

It's my expression when I feed Allan a line and he makes the obvious joke.

Amy said...

ARGGGHHHHHH

Jere said...

If you guys are gonna yell at me, maybe you should tell my debate opponent that her name should be "L-Woman"? Gimme a break.

Amy said...

Yes, I understood YOUR usage. I did not understand Jere's.

Amy said...

OK, can Tek repeat again?

L-girl said...

"I thought "girl" would be the most empowering thing to call her based on what I've learned from you."

What the fuck is wrong with you Jere? Seriously, what is your problem? You do know you have a problem, right?

L-girl said...

Not doing very well on the ignore, am I? I suck at that.

Amy said...

Yay!!! Error or hit?

L-girl said...

This is not a debate. I am not debating you. You are just annoying the living shit out of me and I am letting you do it.

Jere said...

Your name is L-Girl!!! I'm sorry I used "girl" to describe a female younger than you. WHat the hell???

redsock said...

BEAST!

Edward Lee said...

You're all giving me a really severe case of facepalm.

Amy said...

Ignore is hard when you keep getting baited.

Amy said...

Facepalm? OK, that's a new one for me.
What does it mean?

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